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Did i get an S3 i9305 Knockoff? Help!

Hello,
I bough an S3 to change my OneX and i`m still not sure what i bought.
It is deffenetly from Korea, but i cannot find if it is a i9305 aside from checking the RAM and it seams to be a 2GB phone.
The recovery mode is in Korean (Vol down + middle Button + Power)... Can i change that?
Other info about the phone
Model Number: SHV-E210L (i cannot read Korean to figure out what this is, but at least it leads to the Samsung Site)
Android Version: 4.1.2
Baseband: E210LKLLK5/E210LKLLK7
Build Number: JZO54K.E210LKLJLL7
I`m in Europe -> Romania so i`m guessing i would be better off with a local Radio. Can you advice on one?
Also there are some weird factors:
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Is that an built in antenna on the photo????,
if so that is fake

Definetly a Knockoff
Sent from my GT-I8190 using xda app-developers app

Lol!
That looks like its an attenna,
*Fake stamp*
How much did you pay for this knock off if i can ask so?
I hope they did not scam you lol..

Xewl do a little research.. i found this
http://www.zdnet.com/localize-handset-design-content-to-be-competitive-7000006309/
It seams that in Korea the Antenna is a local consumer need

It's NOT a knockoff! It's the domestic Korean version of the Galaxy S3 ... the model number SHV-E210L is for the LG U+ provider. The antenna is included on all the Korean versions of the S3 because it is used to watch TV in Korea over the T-DMB network. Most smartphones in Korean have this antenna.
AGAIN this is NOT a knockoff but whether a domestic Korean version of the S3... and actually better than the I9305!

Innis said:
It's NOT a knockoff! It's the domestic Korean version of the Galaxy S3 ... the model number SHV-E210L is for the LG U+ provider. The antenna is included on all the Korean versions of the S3 because it is used to watch TV in Korea over the T-DMB network. Most smartphones in Korean have this antenna.
AGAIN this is NOT a knockoff but whether a domestic Korean version of the S3... and actually better than the I9305!
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Oh nice,
Never heard about that tho
I did saw alot of knock offs with sich attennas thats why i made the link instantly ^^
Seems i am wrong

Not to be rude but I wouldn't necessarily say better than the I9305 as that would entirely depend on what you intend to do with it. For example, I doubt you'll get LTE reception in europe with it, nor T-DMB. And is the custom rom scene big for it?
Fun fact, turns out swedes on Tele2 can partially get LTE on the SHV-E210K (not L), our carrier uses the 900mhz band in rural areas and 2600mhz in cities (or vice versa, not completely sure).

You hit the i on the head... there is no support for the i9305... so i`m thinking of selling again..i want CM

Rekoil said:
Not to be rude but I wouldn't necessarily say better than the I9305 as that would entirely depend on what you intend to do with it. For example, I doubt you'll get LTE reception in europe with it, nor T-DMB. And is the custom rom scene big for it?
Fun fact, turns out swedes on Tele2 can partially get LTE on the SHV-E210K (not L), our carrier uses the 900mhz band in rural areas and 2600mhz in cities (or vice versa, not completely sure).
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I agree with the LTE and T-DMB and the lack of custom support as being the downsides but the reason why I say it is better than the I9305 is simply because of the long-term support from Samsung. With it you will get official updates first and for a longer time than the I9305. But the LTE bands on the Korean version are quite different...so that is a major problem.

qiuness said:
You hit the i on the head... there is no support for the i9305... so i`m thinking of selling again..i want CM
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You don't even have an I9305, there is no community support for your phone. The I9305 on the other hand, is - like I said in the other thread - basically an N7105 with a smaller screen, meaning we do have support in the sense that everything that is happening to that device will eventually be mirrored to our device.

Rekoil said:
You don't even have an I9305, there is no community support for your phone. The I9305 on the other hand, is - like I said in the other thread - basically an N7105 with a smaller screen, meaning we do have support in the sense that everything that is happening to that device will eventually be mirrored to our device.
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what do you mean i don't have an i9305?! do you mean to say that i have an i9300??
I read that the 2GB versions of the i9300 are i9305 according to GSM Arena for ex.
Could you clarify?! does this mean i can flash CM?

No, neither, you said yourself that you have an SHV-E210L... This is a phone designed for the Korean market.
It's similar to the I9305 in that it has an exynos 4412 processor, 2gb ram and LTE (note: modem will likely be different). But the board will be wired differently, if you are interested in CyanogenMod I would definitely sell it.

oh so it has an entirely different code.
So i can't even flash i9305 ROMs, right?
nothing.. it is rooted already but i did not flash any recovery

You can use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alxdroiddev.gs3identity
to detect if the phone is a fake or not. This app will tell you.

it's legit.. but from the looks of it ... i won't be able to flash anything on this ... since there is no way of knowing if it will stick or brick my phone :|

The easiest way to know for sure is to check if it has samsung features like camera with Best Shot and etc, Palm Skype, Direct Call, Multiwindows

Glebun said:
The easiest way to know for sure is to check if it has Samsung features like camera with Best Shot and etc, Palm Skype, Direct Call, Multiwindows
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It does.. it's defenetly Samsung... all Samsung apps are on it, but as i understand the motherboard is wired differently so... ye.. i`ll exchange it

What do you mean by "wired differently"? It's just a different model made for the Korean market

Glebun said:
What do you mean by "wired differently"? It's just a different model made for the Korean market
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Please read the topic, we've been through this already.

P9 4G+ : inter or intra band ?

Hi,
For 4G+ Intra or inter-bands ? Someone have an answer for this question ?
Some devices, like Honor 7, are given for having 4G+. BUT only with intra-band system.
And in some countries, like France, 4G+ impossible with an intra-band system, only with inter-bands.
Therefore, you buy a supposed 4G+ device, and you always stay on 4G .
That's why an accurate answer about this question is important.
Thank you very much!

However there are also some LTE band differences between the 3 versions:
- Global 4/64 dual SIM
- Global 3/32 dual SIM
- Global 3/32 single SIM
and maybe Chinese versions are even different.
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/p9
A similar problem about 4G and 4G+ in France was discussed on XDA about the Huawei Mate 8.

Thank you.
I was talking in fact for the EVA-L09 sold in France and Europe. Single sim 32Go.
And yes, I was also thinking about the similar problem on Mate 8. It's true.
It should be better if Huawei communicates more accuratly about this.

About the Mate 8, I can say that my Mate 8 (international European L29 version unbranded) never showed "4G+" in Italy (I even doubt the 4G+ symbol is included in its ROM...), whilst my new Samsung S7 Edge always shows 4G+ in the same locations...

Exact. That's why I'm in doubt about Huawei devices now...

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Someone got working 4G+ with european version?

I would be intrested too.
EDIT: Never seen 4g+ symbol...
As i didnt know about this problem and one of the main reasons i bought this phone was 4g+. So finding this out kinda angers me. I already contacted huawei regarding this lets see what they have to say about it.

I get 4G+ on my P9 when an EE SIM is on it (UK), so that will be 1800+2600 LTE.
First Huawei/Honor device that I've had that shows the + bit (P8, Honor 5X, Honor 7, Nexus 6P all don't).

jonmorris said:
I get 4G+ on my P9 when an EE SIM is on it (UK), so that will be 1800+2600 LTE.
First Huawei/Honor device that I've had that shows the + bit (P8, Honor 5X, Honor 7, Nexus 6P all don't).
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I have vodafone ITA and 4g+ should also be 1800+2600, but i have never seen the + icon. I have a eva-l19, what model do you have?

EVA-L09
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EVA-L09
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As my p9 is the eva-l19, which has less bands for LTE, i will still wait for huawei's answer. I have a feeling my p9 doesnt have proper carrier aggregation...

jonmorris said:
I get 4G+ on my P9 when an EE SIM
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EE can use intra-band system as well.
jonmorris said:
First Huawei/Honor device that I've had that shows the + bit (P8, Honor 5X, Honor 7, Nexus 6P all don't).
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6P do not indicate 4G+ mode always showing LTE but aggregation working fine.

noki57oo said:
As my p9 is the eva-l19, which has less bands for LTE, i will still wait for huawei's answer. I have a feeling my p9 doesnt have proper carrier aggregation...
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I also have p9 l19, but I'm quite certain I saw 4g+, before I updated it (I just yesterday bought it) and now all I see is 4g. My carrier supports those bands

Kahoots said:
I also have p9 l19, but I'm quite certain I saw 4g+, before I updated it (I just yesterday bought it) and now all I see is 4g. My carrier supports those bands
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That's good to hear. Im now keeping a close eye on that icon to see if it magically appears...
On another note, Huawei still hasnt answered me, starting to feel like i wont get an answer...
EDIT: I contacted Huawei on social media too, lets see what happens, i want an answer!

I can confirmed about the 4G+ icon
Sent from my EVA-L09 using XDA-Developers mobile app

ilos said:
I can confirmed about the 4G+ icon
so l09 has 4g+, but what about l19 ? lte specs are the same, just the bands differ
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Kahoots said:
ilos said:
I can confirmed about the 4G+ icon
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so l09 has 4g+, but what about l19 ? lte specs are the same, just the bands differ
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Yeah, Huawei answered me on social media, and they just told me what 4G frequencies the phone has. Support still hasn't answered me, which i guess means they won't answer.
I haven't seen the 4G+ icon once...

noki57oo said:
Yeah, Huawei answered me on social media, and they just told me what 4G frequencies the phone has. Support still hasn't answered me, which i guess means they won't answer.
I haven't seen the 4G+ icon once...
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but by all logic it has to work if the frequencies match right ? since my carrier uses most of the l19's frequencies yet nothing, but I still somehow hope that it is just a software glitch, because as I mentioned before, that I believe, that I saw 4g+ icon when I unboxed the phone, but when I updated it , it was gone, although I'm not complaining about the speeds since my top speedtest was 75mbps down and variating 25-75mbps, while up 7-22

So Huawei actually answered, they say that they do not have access to this information, which feels strange. They sent me a lot of data regarding the bands, like frequencies, signal strength, downlink and uplink on different bands, but no carrier aggregation bands....

Hello,
P9 lite (VNS-L31) B130 firmware. No 4G+ icon

Availability and LTE bands

Is the Mi 9 already available for purchase somewhere (outside of China)?
Also, there's information circulating that the Mi 9 (Chinese version), does not support band 20 (800) for LTE, which is widely used in Europe. Any official confirmation on what bands are supported?
Thanks

Not available outside of China yet and Band 20 is not present on the China version.
I am waiting for the global version to hit the UK, i also Want to see if the transparent version will be available globally

ckarv said:
Is the Mi 9 already available for purchase somewhere (outside of China)?
Also, there's information circulating that the Mi 9 (Chinese version), does not support band 20 (800) for LTE, which is widely used in Europe. Any official confirmation on what bands are supported?
Thanks
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They'll announce the Global version of the Mi 9 on February 24th, this'll be the one you want if you want European bands
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jvs60 said:
Not available outside of China yet and Band 20 is not present on the China version.
I am waiting for the global version to hit the UK, i also Want to see if the transparent version will be available globally
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I wouldn't get your hopes up, I'm also hoping the transparent edition gets a global variant, but according to previous leakers it's very unlikely, fingers crossed, 24/2

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
They'll announce the Global version of the Mi 9 on February 24th, this'll be the one you want if you want European bands
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I wouldn't get your hopes up, I'm also hoping the transparent edition gets a global variant, but according to previous leakers it's very unlikely, fingers crossed, 24/2
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You're right, but worst case scenario for me is that I get the China version and flash the global rom on it. I am in the US and the China version has the proper LTE bands to work here.

jvs60 said:
You're right, but worst case scenario for me is that I get the China version and flash the global rom on it. I am in the US and the China version has the proper LTE bands to work here.
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Ah gotcha, my bad, also wishful thinking but hopefully one day Xiaomi reverts back to us being able to lock the bootloader once flashing Global

Here u go, for the chinese version. No B20
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Waiting on Global version, Hopeful of decent pricing in UK/Europe,shall wait and see of it's worth replacing my 6T for this

Please delete

I currently have the Honor View 20 and Mi 9 has a few features missing on the V20

jvs60 said:
I currently have the Honor View 20 and Mi 9 has a few features missing on the V20
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Hardly surprising considering the mi 9 is the newer device

Just watched the mwc conference 449 euro for 6/64 model and 499 for 6/128 model,pre orders now in Europe looks like great deal but thought there might be a 8gb ram version

manus31 said:
Just watched the mwc conference 449 euro for 6/64 model and 499 for 6/128 model,pre orders now in Europe looks like great deal but thought there might be a 8gb ram version
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Can you provide a link to Europe device pre orders?

cd993 said:
Can you provide a link to Europe device pre orders?
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Have been trying to find one myself,seems like it's only in Spain and Italy,I'm in Ireland so might have to wait for a UK release if I want a UK plug.
Here's the Mi Spain site anyway:
https://event.mi.com/es/mi-9/pre-order

manus31 said:
Just watched the mwc conference 449 euro for 6/64 model and 499 for 6/128 model,pre orders now in Europe looks like great deal but thought there might be a 8gb ram version
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The only version that'll get 8GB RAM is apparently to 5G Mix 3, it'll be 8/128

manus31 said:
Have been trying to find one myself,seems like it's only in Spain and Italy,I'm in Ireland so might have to wait for a UK release if I want a UK plug.
Here's the Mi Spain site anyway:
https://event.mi.com/es/mi-9/pre-order
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Yeah same, think ill hold off until UK release too

manus31 said:
Have been trying to find one myself,seems like it's only in Spain and Italy,I'm in Ireland so might have to wait for a UK release if I want a UK plug.
Here's the Mi Spain site anyway:
https://event.mi.com/es/mi-9/pre-order
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Any way to order this to anywhere else than Spain/Italy?

ckarv said:
Any way to order this to anywhere else than Spain/Italy?
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They listed of a few countries in their conference might have just been Spain and Italy.
Waiting on word about UK release but they did say they wanted to make it available to everyone on Feb 28th

manus31 said:
They listed of a few countries in their conference might have just been Spain and Italy.
Waiting on word about UK release but they did say they wanted to make it available to everyone on Feb 28th
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Would be great if it'll be available to buy from their London store soon

Currently it's only available in the 6/64 and 6/128 black variants. Any idea about the 8/128 version hitting EU?

Dorisnov said:
Currently it's only available in the 6/64 and 6/128 black variants. Any idea about the 8/128 version hitting EU?
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Would also be interesting to see if there's any real world performance benefits to the 8GB RAM version.

Question Vodafone UK - no 4G+/5G

Has anyone else got a CN version and on Vodafone UK? I can't seem to get 4G+ or 5G to work. Download speeds on 4g are a lot less than my S21 and Cellmapper seems to confirm no LTE-A or NR. Even tried a SIM swap but that doesn't seem to have helped.
It's fine with my EE SIM, shows 4g+
Some googling shows others with similar issues with no CA on some European networks but others are fine. Wondering if the EEA firmware is likely to have a different modem config file?

I have a CN model and my EE gets 4G+ and 5G without any issues.
I also have a work phone on Vodafone. If I take the Vodafone SIM and put it inside my Mi 11 Ultra, it only shows as 4G. 5G won't turn on either even though it's supported in my price plan and works on my work phone.
One thing I have noticed is that the CN model does not support Band 32/1400MHz SDL, which Vodafone in the UK uses whereas EE does not - could this be the main difference as your area happens to rely on this band?

I don't think that's the issue. My local area masts only have band 1,7 and 20 anyway on Vodafone UK and on my S21 Ultra I get CA ok.

chistery said:
I don't think that's the issue. My local area masts only have band 1,7 and 20 anyway on Vodafone UK and on my S21 Ultra I get CA ok.
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Strange, not sure what it could be. Likely some sort of firmware issue/config matter then as I can't get LTE on my Vodafone work SIM either.

Hopefully once it's out in the UK I can replace the firmware with that version. I will try the global one next week though.
The xiaomi.eu roms are based on the CN version, so likely to have the same modem files I assume.

Have you changed the sim cards with newer ones to rule out some old SIM cards issues ?

Jhonxs said:
Have you changed the sim cards with newer ones to rule out some old SIM cards issues ?
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Yes, tried a SIM swap, still no CA on Vodafone.

4G+ should active automatically when network have these combinations available on network: https://cacombos.com/device/M2102K1C . Chinese devices doesn't support all 4G Carrier Aggregation combinations used in Europe so that could be reason why you don't see 4G+ active.
That's why it's recommend buy Global version: https://cacombos.com/device/M2102K1G

olkitu said:
4G+ should active automatically when network have these combinations available on network: https://cacombos.com/device/M2102K1C . Chinese devices doesn't support all 4G Carrier Aggregation combinations used in Europe so that could be reason why you don't see 4G+ active.
That's why it's recommend buy Global version: https://cacombos.com/device/M2102K1G
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If this is the explanation, i guess there is nothing to do except switching the chinese for global version ?

I think we're just waiting for someone to try the global or EEA version, not brick their phone, and report back on whether CA is now active.

chistery said:
I think we're just waiting for someone to try the global or EEA version, not brick their phone, and report back on whether CA is now active.
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I hope im wrong but i think when it comes to network bands its only about hardware , not software .
Hopefully this can be fixed by software stuff but i doubt it .
Before i bought the phone , i checked bands support and all the UK ones were supported . But it looks like things are more complicated than just supported bands .

I believe CA is a software issue, as the modem just need to know which bands can be aggregated together.

I just downgraded to the Global 12.0.1 version and still no CA.

Well , if someone could tell us what are the odds of this being somehow fixed in the future , i would be really grateful. If there are no chances for some fix , i will definitely sell it even though i freaking love this phone .

vendetta17 said:
If this is the explanation, i guess there is nothing to do except switching the chinese for global version ?
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Well there is not much todo because CA combinations are defined in modem firmware. Changing OS to different version may not change modem firmware.
chistery said:
I believe CA is a software issue, as the modem just need to know which bands can be aggregated together.
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These are configured to modem firmware. You can't change these values because it requires source code of modem and then compile it. We don't have modem source code so we can't change carrier aggregation combinations.
So only what we know is support per devices - https://cacombos.com have good database

Considering this , anyone from UK wants to buy a Mi 11 Ultra 12 / 512 ? Thanks .

Just tried a Global version, and 4G+ works fine.
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And the CN version:
So moral of the story, it's not just about the LTE bands it supports. I'll know for next time!

chistery said:
Just tried a Global version, and 4G+ works fine.
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And the CN version:
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So moral of the story, it's not just about the LTE bands it supports. I'll know for next time!
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You switched to global or you'll keep the chinese one ?

Switched to global, now need to sell my CN version.

chistery said:
Switched to global, now need to sell my CN version.
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Could of just switched to the global rom , would of got the same result.

Question Why its so hard to get the Global Version?

Hey, I've been waiting for 2 months now, and literally, there is no normal Global version for a fair price, I don't get people that buy the global version for 1500$ while its suppose to be 1-1.1k
Can someone explain to me WHY the hell the global version is that rare?

Parkourhaderatt said:
Hey, I've been waiting for 2 months now, and literally, there is no normal Global version for a fair price, I don't get people that buy the global version for 1500$ while its suppose to be 1-1.1k
Can someone explain to me WHY the hell the global version is that rare?
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Hey you had to be quick. There was a flash sale on Aliexpress and I got my Global Version for £888 and Wonda Mobile had around 50 units 2 weeks ago of Global Version for £900. It's in demand and supply is low due to chipset and component shortages globally.

wildlime said:
Hey you had to be quick. There was a flash sale on Aliexpress and I got my Global Version for £888 and Wonda Mobile had around 50 units 2 weeks ago of Global Version for £900. It's in demand and supply is low due to chipset and component shortages globally.
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I've never seen those prices on Aliexpress and Wonda, Aliexpress is 1400$ and Wonda was some ridiculous price too, are you sure it was those prices?

wildlime said:
Hey you had to be quick. There was a flash sale on Aliexpress and I got my Global Version for £888 and Wonda Mobile had around 50 units 2 weeks ago of Global Version for £900. It's in demand and supply is low due to chipset and component shortages globally.
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Absolutely agree. Also, I tried to get one on Mi UK at release time on release date. I missed out only because I didn't yet have an account set up! It could be supply shortages - or it could be deliberate of course, but that would be an odd decision given the demand for the handset!

I got my Global unit from Wonda for about $1268 USD, but I paid $34 for express shipping. AliExpress had it for around $1,200-1400 during the sale, but they couldn't ship to the states. I'm not too sure why it's showing more expensive in GBP. When a conversion of $1302 USD should be around £916 GBP. Unless it includes some other customs and fees? Idk, here is the screenshot.
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Rocking my global version for almost three weeks from AliExpress

The global version’s price is so high compared to the China version. Someone posted a Global version on Mercari for $1,550.
That’s insane. I have yet to see a Global version go any lower than $1300.

i managed to snag a Global version for us$1000 off my local marketplace, but that's it.. no more, it was one of those limited sets released in Malaysia.

TheForceUnleashed said:
The global version’s price is so high compared to the China version. Someone posted a Global version on Mercari for $1,550.
That’s insane. I have yet to see a Global version go any lower than $1300.
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Yeah cant find anything, thats suck

You would be safer ordering a Chinese one and globalizing it yourself....

speedtripler said:
You would be safer ordering a Chinese one and globalizing it yourself....
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I do feel like the bands could be a big deal depending where you live with the Chinese to Global difference.

Well, I have the global version and still on base SW version, 12.0.1.0, with not a single update yet, nor is it possible to get any information on coming releases.
Somewhat disappointing considering the money spent.

MRaximus said:
Well, I have the global version and still on base SW version, 12.0.1.0, with not a single update yet, nor is it possible to get any information on coming releases.
Somewhat disappointing considering the money spent.
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That's weird.. my global set is on 12.0.6.0 which is Android 11..
no updates yet, hope to get 12.5 soon!

yquitumadbro said:
I do feel like the bands could be a big deal depending where you live with the Chinese to Global difference.
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The hardware is identical apart from one band iirc

phibersg said:
That's weird.. my global set is on 12.0.6.0 which is Android 11..
no updates yet, hope to get 12.5 soon!
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That's weird.. since if you look at the build list in the Mi 11 Ultra thread you'll see that it's 0.1.0. What's your build number ending with? Mine is RKAMIXM.
I just hope to get any update.

speedtripler said:
The hardware is identical apart from one band iirc
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Which one do you have? And how's the connection?

yquitumadbro said:
Which one do you have? And how's the connection?
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I use a china 12/512
It's blazing fast at everything except data transfer through that USB 2 port!
All the carriers in my country use band n78 for 5G anyway and it has n78
All of the 4g+/LTE stuffs also working fine

speedtripler said:
I use a china 12/512
It's blazing fast at everything except data transfer through that USB 2 port!
All the carriers in my country use band n78 for 5G anyway and it has n78
All of the 4g+/LTE stuffs also working fine
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I bought the global I'm on the USA it should have 5G which will be nice. I'm curious of how the global will differ from the Chinese.

yquitumadbro said:
I bought the global I'm on the USA it should have 5G which will be nice. I'm curious of how the global will differ from the Chinese.
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I wouldn't be surprised if you end up flashing the Eu ROM onto it eventually to get the features that are months behind on the global version lol
Technically, you probably couldn't tell the difference between them unless you live in an area where there is only one 5g band