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1 day with the G3..,

....and I'm going back to my n5. The g3 is a nice phone but it didn't blow me out of the water and wasn't the clear step up from the n5 that I thought it would be. The g3 isn't much faster for most things and not as fast for some, the camera was good but I've never had a complaint about the n5's camera, and the screen really wasn't better at all. In fact, side by side I preferred my n5's screen, especially when using auto brightness. At full bright there was a slight advantage to the g3 but in normal use it's just a bigger nexus. All that qhd media talk seems to be mostly just that, talk. I really wish instead of the qhd they would have spent time on making it waterproof and maybe metal, or at least a little better feeling than it is.
I'm sure many will say the g3 is way better, in fact there's a thread in the g3 section about switching from this to that. If you are thinking of upgrading I won't say don't do it, but make the change with realistic expectations.

I'm in the same boat. Had the G3 and went back to the nexus. Can't do bloatware. Can't handle slow updates. And don't want to root and ROM. I wasn't really impressed with the battery life. Didn't really like how slippery the phone was. Plus 600 dollars for the G3 is a big turn off. Not worth it IMO.

I will say this about the Tmo g3, it's easy to root at least, but there are exactly 2 roms for it right now. You can use xposed to add some tweaks but then you can't use art. A lot of lg's apps, like the health app, force you to use their home launcher.

I also got a G3, but I love the nexus more. The G3 is like a advance version of N5 with bloatware.
there are somethings really interesting:
1. I got a 40MHz 2.4G wifi which only the N5 can connect without problem, the G3 and Nexus 7 both have problem (5G is ok)
2. the G3 is really easy to overheat, when I charge the G3 a while, it say I can't get 100% brightness (which it lock down to 80%) due to overheat, but I am not using it at all.

Ok guys, let me start with... I love my N5. BUT... coming from a Note 2 I felt like I gave away lots of things that I really was pampered with. When I first got my N7, the first thing that crossed my mind was "If they made a device with the same design, I would love it" and then the N5 was born. I was one the ones that stayed pressing REFRESH for a long time, a very long time until my order went through. I got my device and was happy for about 11 minutes, then I started seeing the compromises I have made. But don't get me wrong, I still love it and enjoy it very much.
My first complain about it was the obvious and what I had already made peace with, like MicroSD and gigantic battery, then! I found out that USB-OTG is not supported OTB and I have to install additional apps to make it work, the gallery app is nothing compared to what I was used to, and the there was little things here and there that makes the relationship between the device and me more of a love and hate thing. As soon as I saw the G3, was like a breath of fresh air. Getting back the size 5.5", MicroSD, USB-OTG, battery and all the other pluses that comes with it. The G3 is my new toy and companion but N5 will always have a spot in my heart, I always hated myself for not getting the GNEX and as soon as the SG3 came out, I jumped on it and got it. this time around I'm glad I got the N5 and have the amazing experience but its time for me to move on, who knows! maybe if the next Nexus have all this features that I can't seem to live without, maybe in a few months, but for now... The time has come.

DJBBOX said:
Ok guys, let me start with... I love my N5. BUT... coming from a Note 2 I felt like I gave away lots of things that I really was pampered with. When I first got my N7, the first thing that crossed my mind was "If they made a device with the same design, I would love it" and then the N5 was born. I was one the ones that stayed pressing REFRESH for a long time, a very long time until my order went through. I got my device and was happy for about 11 minutes, then I started seeing the compromises I have made. But don't get me wrong, I still love it and enjoy it very much.
My first complain about it was the obvious and what I had already made peace with, like MicroSD and gigantic battery, then! I found out that USB-OTG is not supported OTB and I have to install additional apps to make it work, the gallery app is nothing compared to what I was used to, and the there was little things here and there that makes the relationship between the device and me more of a love and hate thing. As soon as I saw the G3, was like a breath of fresh air. Getting back the size 5.5", MicroSD, USB-OTG, battery and all the other pluses that comes with it. The G3 is my new toy and companion but N5 will always have a spot in my heart, I always hated myself for not getting the GNEX and as soon as the SG3 came out, I jumped on it and got it. this time around I'm glad I got the N5 and have the amazing experience but its time for me to move on, who knows! maybe if the next Nexus have all this features that I can't seem to live without, maybe in a few months, but for now... The time has come.
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This is what exactly when I try to explain the different of Nexus and other flagship smartphone.
If you want a sport car and you can afford the money, you can buy a Ferrari, you don't need to do anything and it already very fast, with nearly all things you need, with a great complete experience.
Or you can get a subaru/civic type-r (or anything cheap), spend your time to custom it to make it run fast and add options you need.

Tastes differ.

The only Tmo store near me has consistently been terrible, I don't know why, maybe it is the manager but the employees ae generally terrible and today when I took the g3 back was no different. The guy asked me why I didn't like the g3, I explained my reasons as above and he just kept pushing.
He tried to tell me how out dated and slow the nexus was and how the software was exactly the same etc etc, I didn't bother tryi to argue with him but it seemed like he'd never rooted a phone and he definitely had never used the n5. His last sentence might have been true, he told me I should have used it for a few weeks before returning it and I would never miss the n5.
Only problem with that is I only have a 14 day return period and I'd be away during the last few days. Anyhow, I'm back to my nexus. Maybe the n6 will be great and convince me to switch, until then none of the other top line phones have what they need to make them worth switching, for me at least.

Yeah I'm waiting on the n6 but love my n5 tho an uber kernel is da bomb

I was tempted by G3. I stuck with my N5 and just picked up a 1+. I was bedazzled by the boxing/packaging of the 1+ and its new factor. I made it a day on CM and switched to Mahdi ROM. I would love to try L on it. I do not have big hands....enter joke here, and miss how my N5 felt in my hand. I don't think the G3 would sit as nicely as my N5 does. I have a GN2 that I use as backup and 1+ is way better. I will probably use 1+ as my new backup and stick with my N5.

Here's a pretty good read: http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-two-months
I thought the G3 would have been much better (screen wise). Seems most are let down by it. Ended out getting the nexus 5 thinking I would be disappointed... Boy was I wrong... What a beautiful device.

Whilst I find all the n5 love reassuring I'd kill all my relatives for a G3!

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Whilst I find all the n5 love reassuring I'd kill all my relatives for a G3!
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Best thing I've read all day.

It will dawn on people, I hope, that phones have plateaued as far as doing stuff. We don't need quad hd,etc. They play games movies etc grt. The N5 with kk is the embodiment of this. The next change won't be until 64 bit~6gig ram ~ true pocket computers we will walk away from the desk and pick up to take with us. Until then change is just to sell new models we don't really need. The device that I mention is on the way, until then I'd only update for practical reasons, faults etc. When we have L on the n5 properly that will give it a shot in the arm.

I have both phones and they exist for very different markets. Did you guys ever stop to notice that the N5 didn't have a single ad? It just isn't for a normal consumer. The nexus 5 was designed for messing around with software and debugging for devs. Whereas the G3 is just for average people who want a bit of power and battery life to go along with it. If I was a general consumer I'd hate the N5 due to its poor battery life, speakers and camera and would never buy it. Whereas the G3 has a solid camera and battery life. Two things that mainstream consumers care about.

All Nexus lines since the Nexus S were sold as mainstream phones by the carriers here.
Sent from my Nexus 5

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I have both phones and they exist for very different markets. Did you guys ever stop to notice that the N5 didn't have a single ad? It just isn't for a normal consumer. The nexus 5 was designed for messing around with software and debugging for devs. Whereas the G3 is just for average people who want a bit of power and battery life to go along with it. If I was a general consumer I'd hate the N5 due to its poor battery life, speakers and camera and would never buy it. Whereas the G3 has a solid camera and battery life. Two things that mainstream consumers care about.
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I saw a TV advert for the Nexus 5 when it was being released. But the LG G3 adverts (still) have a lot of presence right now (more than the N5 did).
Sent from my Nexus 5

now what I'm interested in, is the Xiaomi Mi-4
http://www.xiaomiworld.com/xiaomi-mi4.html
looks nicer than the G3.
like the G3 though. would take it for the screen, 3AH battery, 3GB RAM, but $, and don't need anything better than the nexus. Plus I have already invested in Qi charging mats all over so I expect I'll want one that supports that in the future. Edit: oh looks like it supports qi
Oh and the 2k display no thanks. I don't want that. Angry. From an engineering POV, I hate this phone because they went for that. wasn't need, Wastes power.

Nexus - - - > other
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thor1k said:
now what I'm interested in, is the Xiaomi Mi-4
http://www.xiaomiworld.com/xiaomi-mi4.html
looks nicer than the G3.
like the G3 though. would take it for the screen, 3AH battery, 3GB RAM, but $, and don't need anything better than the nexus. Plus I have already invested in Qi charging mats all over so I expect I'll want one that supports that in the future. Edit: oh looks like it supports qi
Oh and the 2k display no thanks. I don't want that. Angry. From an engineering POV, I hate this phone because they went for that. wasn't need, Wastes power.
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They also send data like imei number n contacts to their home servers WITHOUT consent...more than enuf for me to stay away from these chinese manufacturers..
First checked by some website n nw confirmed by fsecure ...

Is it a good decision to buy this phone right now?

I know since G Flex 2 is just announced. I actually like the Flex. Just wanted to know if anyone has any peculiar inputs about it. Things I need to be careful about...?
Does anyone get a headache due to the bent screen?
Thanks!

X0LARIUM said:
I know since G Flex 2 is just announced. I actually like the Flex. Just wanted to know if anyone has any peculiar inputs about it. Things I need to be careful about...?
Does anyone get a headache due to the bent screen?
Thanks!
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Great phone, IMO I like the design of the old flex better than the new one. I was planning on updating because the phone does have a sub par screen ( eg: the slight ghosting and 720p) but I couldn't go without the notification light on the back! No headaches from the screen at all, the real headaches are from the small number of devs working on this phone! Once the flex gets lollipop this phone will be golden.
would buy

dmifsud44 said:
Great phone, IMO I like the design of the old flex better than the new one. I was planning on updating because the phone does have a sub par screen ( eg: the slight ghosting and 720p) but I couldn't go without the notification light on the back! No headaches from the screen at all, the real headaches are from the small number of devs working on this phone! Once the flex gets lollipop this phone will be golden.
would buy
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Thanks so much dear friend...I was just wondering if reading books is an issue. The 5.5 Flex2 would be great I know.. But the price is great too and this worries me.
The Flex original looks awesome...not very worried about the 720p display unless its a real hindrance.
I would mostly be doing:
Texting(WhatsApp)
Instagram
Flipboard
Google Books
and other regular browsing.
Occasionally movies watching...
What do you recommend then...the new Flex or the Original?

X0LARIUM said:
Thanks so much dear friend...I was just wondering if reading books is an issue. The 5.5 Flex2 would be great I know.. But the price is great too and this worries me.
The Flex original looks awesome...not very worried about the 720p display unless its a real hindrance.
I would mostly be doing:
Texting(WhatsApp)
Instagram
Flipboard
Google Books
and other regular browsing.
Occasionally movies watching...
What do you recommend then...the new Flex or the Original?
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Then i would definitely recommend the first one. Bigger battery life, bigger screen and MUCH smaller price tag.
The screen really isn't even noticeably an issue unless you are on lowest brightness all the time (like me), but even then the screen is still pretty nice looking. The flex's poled screen would be great for reading with a black background on white text because it really produces deep blacks and uses no battery doing so!

dmifsud44 said:
Then i would definitely recommend the first one. Bigger battery life, bigger screen and MUCH smaller price tag.
The screen really isn't even noticeably an issue unless you are on lowest brightness all the time (like me), but even then the screen is still pretty nice looking. The flex's poled screen would be great for reading with a black background on white text because it really produces deep blacks and uses no battery doing so!
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I've heard a lot about the legendary battery life...let's see how the Flex2 is priced..but so far...the flex original is my fav.
Thanks again..also...does it slow down with a tons of apps installed/?

Well, the gf2 is going to be priced higher than the g3. So expect 250$ to 350$ carrier pricing.
I've not experienced any slow down with tonns of apps installed.
Make sure though, if buying online, not to get a Chinese or Japan version.
I've been very happy with my flex, and came from the note2 which has mega dev support.
The 720p p-oled screen isn't as bad as many say. If you hold it 3inches from your face, you'll notice its not perfect, but at a normal 12inches or more its just fine.
Battery life is just stellar. There isn't much bad to say about it, other than taking slightly longer to charge.
All in all, if you want a large screen, top shelf battery life, and a dam near unbreakable phone, then the OG Flex is definitely not a bad choice.

on my flex last night I got 6.5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours on battery and was only down to 25% battery life and it said estimated life left was 3 hours

Thanks both you guys! Looking forward to get the Flex!!

na
Run run run FAST Dont waste your time on the FLEX

I wish there was a way to NOT thank someone, other than just not THANKING them...? Ickyz, ? indeed.

Really like this phone. Except the lack of development.
As far as F2 smaller screen & poorer battery life. If the F2 unsubsidized price is the same as the original ~$940 USD it's going to keep a lot of people away.
If the Flex was the same price as comparable Samsungs it'd have just as much development. But pricing it $300-$400 more than the Samsungs is crushing the development of it.

[Q] Thinking of getting flex and having some doubts

Hello guys, I am going to buy a new phone and I want either lg g flex or lg g3. My questions or doubts are as follows
Is the 720p resolution noticeable in such a big screen? I think 1440p is a total overkill for such a small display
Are the colours better in LG G flex? How is battery duration?
Is LG G flex TOO big? Is it comfortable? would you buy it again?
Last but not least, What would you pick?

I have a flex. I like the size but the lg software is a little behind say htc's. For instance, if your out and about, talking on the phone and need to look something up on the internet real quick, unless your connected to wifi you cannot access the web. For some reason, the lg software doesn't allow you to use your lte whilst on a call. It's a little getting at times. The pictures it takes are lacking as well. There is no stabilizer on the camera so you have to hold it very still when taking pics otherwise it's blurry. With a phone this size it makes taking "one-handed" pics a little hard. I hope this helps a little. If there's anything else you wanna know just ask. Thanks

How sharp is the screen? can you tell that it is 720p?

You really can't tell it's 720p. Nice crisp and bright. Sharp

Desertio said:
You really can't tell it's 720p. Nice crisp and bright. Sharp
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I agree and disagree. If it's your only phone and you have no reference you can't "really" tell. Hold it next to any 1080p screen, Note 3 for example and it becomes pretty apparent. That being said, I love the Flex.
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Desertio said:
I have a flex. I like the size but the lg software is a little behind say htc's. For instance, if your out and about, talking on the phone and need to look something up on the internet real quick, unless your connected to wifi you cannot access the web. For some reason, the lg software doesn't allow you to use your lte whilst on a call. It's a little getting at times. The pictures it takes are lacking as well. There is no stabilizer on the camera so you have to hold it very still when taking pics otherwise it's blurry. With a phone this size it makes taking "one-handed" pics a little hard. I hope this helps a little. If there's anything else you wanna know just ask. Thanks
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That actually has nothing to do with the software what-so-ever. The problem you describe is a network band issue. CDMA is notorious for this limitation and several phones on the CDMA network got around it by adding a separate radio specifically for data paths. S3 and I think the S4 and the older WiMAX phones like the Evo and such, but once they went to the "Tri-band" or Spark which is how Sprint wants to spin it (G2, G3, Flex, HTC M8, S5, etc etc.) They ditched the ability to talk and surf at the same time.
This isn't an issue on AT&T or T-Mobile because they are on GSM which supports dual modes regardless of the phone.
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felacio said:
That actually has nothing to do with the software what-so-ever. The problem you describe is a network band issue. CDMA is notorious for this limitation and several phones on the CDMA network got around it by adding a separate radio specifically for data paths. S3 and I think the S4 and the older WiMAX phones like the Evo and such, but once they went to the "Tri-band" or Spark which is how Sprint wants to spin it (G2, G3, Flex, HTC M8, S5, etc etc.) They ditched the ability to talk and surf at the same time.
This isn't an issue on AT&T or T-Mobile because they are on GSM which supports dual modes regardless of the phone.
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Correctomundo. No GSM phone ever has issues doing both. This is not a "Flex" or even an "LG" issue. Gosh I don't miss VZW.
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manupa14 said:
Hello guys, I am going to buy a new phone and I want either lg g flex or lg g3. My questions or doubts are as follows
Is the 720p resolution noticeable in such a big screen? I think 1440p is a total overkill for such a small display
Are the colours better in LG G flex? How is battery duration?
Is LG G flex TOO big? Is it comfortable? would you buy it again?
Last but not least, What would you pick?
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Many of your questions are really matters of opinion. If you think a super high res screen is overkill on a phone then why are you considering a G3?
- battery life on the flex is fantastic. Amongst the best I've ever used.
- colors...the G3 screen is better. It just is. Especially since you can adjust it in stock settings. Anyone saying otherwise is really just trying to justify their purchase. I'm not saying the Flex screen is bad, because it's not...it's just not better.
- is the flex too big? Only you can answer that. I dunno if you have Andre the Giant sized hands or hands the size of a lawn Gnome's. The Flex's size was fine for me but I have large hands. I use a Nexus 6 just fine when many think that is too big.
- should you get it? Honestly? If it comes down to cost and you can find one cheap enough the Flex is a great phone. I picked one up just the other day for under $200. But, price aside, I'd go with the G3. Replaceable battery, SD card support, better screen, better camera with OIS (optical image stabilization) and it's more future proof. Both phones are getting replaced but the G3's specs are closer to today's market. Good news is you can't go wrong with either.
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manupa14 said:
Hello guys, I am going to buy a new phone and I want either lg g flex or lg g3. My questions or doubts are as follows
Is the 720p resolution noticeable in such a big screen? I think 1440p is a total overkill for such a small display
Are the colours better in LG G flex? How is battery duration?
Is LG G flex TOO big? Is it comfortable? would you buy it again?
Last but not least, What would you pick?
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If its in your price range, G Flex 2 would be an awesome middle ground.
1080p on a 5.5", SD810 makes it faster than G Flex even though higher resolution.
Havent seen any battery tests, but has to be better than G3, but maybe not as awesome as G Flex.

I've played around with the g3 for a little bit. It's a very nice device, and has a lot going for it. It's got a nice crisp screen, SD card support, removable battery, and a much better camera.
But, the g3 just does not perform well in regards to battery life. My flex can easily get me through the day with heavy usage. I'm talking Bluetooth media streaming, YouTube videos, a whole bunch of web browsing, some pictures, and your other daily stuff.
If you looking to buy out right the flex is not a bad choice, considering that you can find it for under 250 right now. But if you're looking for a little more support especially here on XDA, getting the g3 now or waiting for the GF2 are definitely not bad choices either.
And if you're into benchmark scores, I've got mine rooted with exposed and I'm easily pulling 42000 in antutu. That's easily on par with the g3 and the HTC One m8.

Thank you all for answering, you have cleared my doubts, I decided to go for the OnePlus One in the end

manupa14 said:
Thank you all for answering, you have cleared my doubts, I decided to go for the OnePlus One in the end
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Can't go wrong. 1+ is a great phone, one of my personal favorites.
ATB
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Upgrade from Nexus 4
I was looking for a phone to upgrade to from my Nexus 4 for under $250 and this seems to be the best option. Thoughts? I'm on AT&T network so I was looking at D950 version.

Eun-Hjzjined said:
I've played around with the g3 for a little bit. It's a very nice device, and has a lot going for it. It's got a nice crisp screen, SD card support, removable battery, and a much better camera.
But, the g3 just does not perform well in regards to battery life. My flex can easily get me through the day with heavy usage. I'm talking Bluetooth media streaming, YouTube videos, a whole bunch of web browsing, some pictures, and your other daily stuff.
If you looking to buy out right the flex is not a bad choice, considering that you can find it for under 250 right now. But if you're looking for a little more support especially here on XDA, getting the g3 now or waiting for the GF2 are definitely not bad choices either.
And if you're into benchmark scores, I've got mine rooted with exposed and I'm easily pulling 42000 in antutu. That's easily on par with the g3 and the HTC One m8.
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What is the Antutu score with stock rom? What is "exposed"? Is it a custom rom?

My scores are on stock ROM D95020b, rooted, debloated, with xposed framework.
The only other ROM out there is an unfinished cm11... And I'm not touching it until sound and calls work, if it ever will.

Moto Z Force. After two weeks.

So after two weeks i think i have a good idea on how this device is. Previous phones this year are. S6 Edge, Droid Turbo 2, Nexus 6p, S7 Edge and as of yesterday Note 7. And this is by far the best.
Smooth. Not Nexus smooth...Smoother. Smooth enough to when iphone users are talking about how there is lag in android i just pop on the John Cena entrance song and hand it to them and tell them that iphones are laggy.
Screen is great. Just remember put a tempered glass screen protector on it before you touch the display. I went with the Verizon one as it covers more then the zag. Few parts did not want to go down but after a few hours it was all good and they all went down with no problem. My turbo 2's display always felt t was pretty deep under the shattersheild and digitizer. The z feels like a typical display. Glad they fixed that on what i will call the second gen of shatter shield.
Fingerprint reader's location sucks. But im getting use to it again. But its fastest. Fastest i have ever used. And i love you just touch it again and it locks the phone.
The active display is a nice welcome. Unlike samsungs fail on it Moto did it right. This time smaller sensors and pretty much no impact on battery life..unlike samsung that sucks atleast 8% of the battery on my note 7. Thats kicking 280mAH of battery in the ass every day. They should of really did it like Moto.
Cameras are ok. Better for moto but a bit of a downgrade for point and click vs my S7E and N7. But you can take just as good pictures if you know what you are doing and know how to use all the manual camera settings. Point and click samsung still holds the crown.
Performance. Beast mode. In benchmarks like Antutu its faster in everything and absolutely crushes my N7 and S7E in the Ram part. Like i said this is the smoothest phone you can buy and i really cant bog it down. I was not expecting it to feel this much faster but its enough to flip around in the phone and say "damn thats snappy"
Charging. 35W.......35W Yeah full power you charging at over 6 amps.
Overall i love this phone. Moto mods are amazing. JBL speaker sounds great. Do not get the crapy tumi pack and go right for the incipo. Makes the phone heavy but its easy to hold. The weight will be the turn off for most. But 5,720mAH son. Set to efficacy mode and enjoy.
My S7E and my N7 are being sold. Z force is just better. I love the way my N7 feels and the display is great. But its same old same old. Its bringing nothing new. Nothing to wow me. Nothing to show off...oh its got a retina scanner. Thats slower then using your thumb and you have to swipe just to use it. And even then an engineer at my work when i let him see it took it came back with it unlocked and said might wanna delete anyone who may steal your phone off facebook and make all your images private. But the phone has class. It just feels classy. Like a Benz. It makes you feel good. But you not going to run around showing off stuff because most of that crap is on someone ford focus.
Moto mods have me thinking. Moto mod style back that takes 2 micro sd cards and dare i say it....RAID 0 them?!?! FLIR moto mod. E ink display, M.2 or Msata housing? I cant wait to see what comes of this. It got me excited about the phone. All around this is an amazing device and by far the best phone i have ever owned. If you are thinking about buying it just go use it at the store. After using it for a few min i bought on on the spot its that smooth..even with all of Verizons bloat.
Note about the verizon bumper case. Get a Razer with it. You need to trim a little for the moto mods to work. Little lip on the back just cut it flat "You will see" and all mods work perfect. But if you get the force do not leave the store without a screen protector. That i'll wait a day and do it wont fly. These screens on the force scratch if a mouse farts.
Downsides
No data cable. Better buy a quality usb a to c if you wanna use a data cable or any other chargers. Lenovo really could of gave us a data cable. or a converter. But the phone is great and im just going to be thankful that they did not cut massive corners to keep the profit up and toss in a data cable.

That was poetry in motion!^^

I agree with your comments. I am shocked how much faster the Z force is than my rooted Turbo was, even when I had RR 6.01 on it. Its a great phone, even just looking at pictures on it they just pop with that screen. Again, the screen is much better than my Turbo was. Love the fingerprint reader, still on the fence if front location is better than the rear like the 6P has.

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I agree with your comments. I am shocked how much faster the Z force is than my rooted Turbo was, even when I had RR 6.01 on it. Its a great phone, even just looking at pictures on it they just pop with that screen. Again, the screen is much better than my Turbo was. Love the fingerprint reader, still on the fence if front location is better than the rear like the 6P has.
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Yeah its the only phone that im able to use out of the box as is that does not feel laggy or slow. Hell even my 6p felt slow. Only thing i did was install nova launcher so i can hide all the verizon crap until i can delete it for good to clean up my app drawer but the phone is amazing.
Im use to the fingerprint reader on the front now. And use to the weight of the battery mod and holy crap i love the battery life. Heavy use 2 days no problem running 5+ hours of sot a day.

More or less my experience. I am going screen-protectorless, though. I don't want this thing any thicker than it is. I already have a couple tiny scratches, but since you can replace the top layer for $39 I figure I'll just do that in a year.
Yeah.. cheap USB C cables are no good. I tried a $2 chinese one from ebay. Didn't work at all. Here's a cheap old USB - USB-C cable that worked fine for me, to charge from your old chargers:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B432JQ4
Got this C to C one, works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017VIHQ6O
I got this car charger after returning another one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESIWWGE
3A charge on USB C, I can confirm it's pretty fast. Just got back from a trip this weekend. From a full charge I got over five hours in the car with Waze running before I was below 20%... unbelievable. Plugged er in and it took an hour or so to recharge completely. with that car charger.
The one downside is that I can't have it plugged in while the phone is in my car holder because the cable is so chunky, it doesn't bend around my dashboard! Looking for a right-angle one, but haven't found yet. OTOH if I can go almost 6 hours and then just plug it in for an hour, who cares..

My wife got a plain Z, while I purchased the Force. I took the Force mainly for the extra battery, my job requires me to log the miles I drive and that app can be a killer in mountain areas. I was using a 6p before, but got tired of most people I call complaining of the echo, and the phone losing GPS constantly.

Well said. Granted, I think ANY phone I upgraded to from my OG Moto X would have felt amazing, but I really wanted to keep Moto Actions/Display, and I'm VERY pleased with my MZF.

blynkofaneye said:
Well said. Granted, I think ANY phone I upgraded to from my OG Moto X would have felt amazing, but I really wanted to keep Moto Actions/Display, and I'm VERY pleased with my MZF.
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I just upgraded from the OG Moto X as well, and the Actions/Display were a big part of my decision on a new phone. Ever pick up your X nowadays? It seems so tiny when I pick it up now!
As for the screen, I find it just fine as it is. I am sure the tempered glass would make it feel that much better, but it doesn't really bother me.
With the fingerprint reader, I just made sure to add my thumb to it, as it feels natural to just place my thumb on it rather than an index finger.

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I just upgraded from the OG Moto X as well, and the Actions/Display were a big part of my decision on a new phone. Ever pick up your X nowadays? It seems so tiny when I pick it up now!
As for the screen, I find it just fine as it is. I am sure the tempered glass would make it feel that much better, but it doesn't really bother me.
With the fingerprint reader, I just made sure to add my thumb to it, as it feels natural to just place my thumb on it rather than an index finger.
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I'm still using my Moto X as a gym music player, and yep, it seems TINY in comparison now. I held off upgrading for so long because I wanted a smaller phone with top-end specs. Realized that wasn't going to happen (save maybe the HTC10), so just bit the bullet. But man, the moto actions are SO much faster on this beast!

blynkofaneye said:
I'm still using my Moto X as a gym music player, and yep, it seems TINY in comparison now. I held off upgrading for so long because I wanted a smaller phone with top-end specs. Realized that wasn't going to happen (save maybe the HTC10), so just bit the bullet. But man, the moto actions are SO much faster on this beast!
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Indeed. And once I heard no Moto X this year...
How was your battery on the X? Mine was draining insanely fast. Part of what sped up my decision to upgrade.

TheKaz said:
Indeed. And once I heard no Moto X this year...
How was your battery on the X? Mine was draining insanely fast. Part of what sped up my decision to upgrade.
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Battery life was(is) dismal. Bought an new OEM battery off Amazon a couple months ago to stave off the upgrade. It ran GREAT for a few weeks, then almost overnight went right back to being crap again. Probably only lasts about 6 hours now.

I just got mine two days ago, won it through Moto Insiders. Why do you suggest getting a screen protector for it? To protect from scratches?
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More or less my experience. I am going screen-protectorless, though. I don't want this thing any thicker than it is. I already have a couple tiny scratches, but since you can replace the top layer for $39 I figure I'll just do that in a year.
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Does Moto/Lenovo offer that replacement service? Could you link me to it?

Yes, to protect from scratches. The replaceable shattershield doesn't seem to be available yet. Are you able to share about Moto insiders or is it a Fight Club kind of thing? It sounds different than soak testers.

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Yes, to protect from scratches. The replaceable shattershield doesn't seem to be available yet. Are you able to share about Moto insiders or is it a Fight Club kind of thing? It sounds different than soak testers.
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It's like a rep website. I work inside a Best Buy, and the Motorola rep signed me up for the site a while ago. They run contests sometimes for free phones, and there are things you do on the site that earn you points that you can cash in for free stuff, ranging from small things like a mug and larger things, like a Moto Hint, or a Moto X Pure

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Do not get the crapy tumi pack and go right for the incipo.
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Could you explain this? They seem to have similar specs but with the incipo being cheaper.
Thanks in advance and thanks for your review, I'm off to the store today!

cenobite138 said:
Could you explain this? They seem to have similar specs but with the incipo being cheaper.
The TUMI is made by Incipio... So it's pretty much the same thing, with a different shell on it.
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Maybe someone can help me with this,,,when you use the "okay moto Z" to wake the phone and do something like make a phone call,,,in previous moto phones there was an option to turn on the phone speaker when making calls,,,I cant seem to find that option?

You have to say 'OK Moto z, call someone on speaker phone'. They are using Google commands exclusively for Z so whatever Google supports.

I've had me device 2 days, and all I can say is wow. Major improvement over the V20 I was using. I returned it the day I got this phone. White and gold make it seem more of a premium phone. Super snappy and battery is amazing. Def. A keeper for me.
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I've had me device 2 days, and all I can say is wow. Major improvement over the V20 I was using. I returned it the day I got this phone. White and gold make it seem more of a premium phone. Super snappy and battery is amazing. Def. A keeper for me.
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i also returned my V20 after one day. went back to the S7 Edge for a week then got the Moto Z Force Droid from Best Buy. Love it, putting the S7 Edge on eBay tonight

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG V20, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG V20 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Surprised at thin, light and high quality.

yup...runs smooth...great replacement for my N7

Didn't think I was going to be happy with ANY phone after losing my first true love, the Note 7. All joking aside, this is one of the better phones currently available today! Once you disable bloat and that God forbidden "Lookout" app that is the WORST app that a company could pre-install on any phone...

I'm impressed with Android 7.0 and the LG V20 hardware. I'm coming from a Note 4, and so far, I like it. I've been riding stock. No Nova Launcher, yet.

I love it too. I'm on day two coming from a GS7 Edge that I just gave to my wife. AT&T had a great deal on a LG 10.1 G-Pad to go along with this phone so my wife got the pad and the edge. We're both extremely happy.
I should also mention that I'm a loyal Note user from the original days. The GS7 Edge was my first foray back into a regular phone.
Original Note
Note 2
Note 3
Note 4 (just sold back to AT&T)
GS7 Edge
This monster

Switched to this phone after Note 7.
I haven't found anything that I don't like about this phone yet. It is a great phone that helped me forget the Note 7. It is the best smartphone available at this time, period!
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG V20, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG V20 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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After using this phone I went back to my Note 7. I'll take my chances. Don't get me wrong, the LGv20 is not a bad phone, it just doesn't do anything exceptionally well. The screen is meh, the fingerprint scanner is annoying as all you have to do is touch it and it unlocks, i'd rather have the lgv10 fingerprint implementation. And the quad dac is less obvious than the lgv10. In other words the Dac on the v10 was better as in loudness. I don;t know if its nougat or the v20 but when I use the built in gmail app and I delete an email I get the option to undelete but it doesnt actually undelete. And one you go SAMOLED all screens look like ass in comparison.

Best phone on the market as of November 2016.

I just bought mine yesterday. I've been using Galaxy S5s for a year and a half waiting for someone to come out with a new phone with swappable batteries and MicroSD. The S5 is much loved by me. I'm going to miss the wallet cover which positively shut off the screen on the S5 and the V20 is a little larger than I like, but I do like the fingerprint scanner which works a lot better than the last I used, which was a Note 4.

galr said:
Best phone on the market as of November 2016.
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Nice going to T-Mobile today and going to use my jump on demand and get this bugger.. So pissed off about Samsungs locked bootloader! Going to miss the wireless charging in the brand new Defender case I just bought LOL no biggie.

jrno1 said:
Nice going to T-Mobile today and going to use my jump on demand and get this bugger.. So pissed off about Samsungs locked bootloader! Going to miss the wireless charging in the brand new Defender case I just bought LOL no biggie.
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Do you also get all the gifts with the V20 in the states?

galr said:
Do you also get all the gifts with the V20 in the states?
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I was supposed to get the VR headset when I bought this galaxy S7 Edge never did though..

jrno1 said:
I was supposed to get the VR headset when I bought this galaxy S7 Edge never did though..
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In Israel we get with the V20:
1. LG 360 Cam.
2. VR headset.
3. 16GB Sandisk type 10 sd card.
4. A second original battery.
Pretty neat.

I love this phone! It's the first phone that I didn't had mixed feelings about and I've had just about every flagship from Sammy n LG.
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In Israel we get with the V20:
1. LG 360 Cam.
2. VR headset.
3. 16GB Sandisk type 10 sd card.
4. A second original battery.
Pretty neat.
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Dam! Nice!

I love my V20, I am so happy with it, the performance, battery life, build quality, appearance, all of it! <3 This device!
I got it this past Monday 11/14, and it has been an absolute joy.
It has also made work related tasks much easier and my signal throughout the Denver metro area has been fantastic, much better than my S6 or my iPhone 6S Plus.
Full bars in data centers where the other devices had one or two.
I traded in my phone and sent my company issued phone back after two days owning the V20.
It is that good.

I previously had an LG G4 for about a year before switching to a Huawei Mate 8 for about 3 months until I received my V20 H990DS this Friday, 18 November. So far I'm really happy. The phone has excellent build quality for a phone that has a removable battery. It's thin and light albeit slightly tall.
I love the QHD screen, it may not be AMOLED but it is an excellent LCD panel with vibrant colors and it really looks great. I do have slight light bleed from the second screen but it doesn't bother me at all. In fact, I'll accept that to have the extra screen and I really hope LG keeps this feature in future versions of the V series. Though I do agree that LG should move to AMOLED for the next version in the V series lineup.
I've enabled the app drawer and have found the LG skin to be a pleasant experience with its customization options and themes. Certainly a step up from the G4. The phone is really fast and the audio is absolutely amazing.
I love having true dual sim with a memory card slot. Signal quality on wifi and LTE is excellent.
As for the camera's, I haven't spent much time testing them out yet but so far the image quality looks great and the wide angle lens is awesome despite the lower resolution.
So, I'm still experiencing the phone and testing out the various features but overall I really think LG did a great job with the V20 and I'm very happy with it so far.
What else would I have liked? Wireless charging, AMOLED displays, higher resolution wide angle rear camera and front facing camera. Unlocked bootloader.
Thanks LG. Happy customer here! (so far)

Had the phone now for about 2 weeks. Coming from a Samsung ATIV SE Windows phone with Win10 Mobile.
So far I like the build quality of the phone. Feels solid, glad it is not super thin like some of the new phones. Hate that, do designers think people are a bunch of wimps that can't hold anything over a 5mm thick?
The screen is good. I am not one that really cares what type of screen I have, whether its OLED or LCD. As long as I can read it, I am good with it.
Guess my biggest disappointment is with the OS. I have been away from Android on a phone, though I have three Android tablets, plus an Ipad for work and a 8" Windows tablet for tinkering.
I am NOT IMPRESSED with Android 7.0. The camera app on the V20 is good, but the processing software makes for some rather crummy pictures, either in auto or manual mode. Too much noise if you barely zoom in. Not real impressed right now after spending a couple days trying to get good with the camera.
As far as Android in general, there is too much fragmentation, almost too many apps trying to do the same function, while all of them doing it rather poorly. I don't need 5 different file managers, I just need one that does what I want it to do. Same with web browsers. How many do you really need?
Guess I am just used to using my phone as a phone first, work tool second. I don't have all the gee whiz apps like Instagram, Snapchat, and all that garbage. I use my phone for specific functions and I want apps that do it right the first time.
Hopefully by the time my contract is up on this phone, Verizon will be off CDMA and fully switched to their version of GSM. Then maybe some phone makers will start making Windows phones for their network again. Going to be a long 2 years for me. May just sell this V20, and go back to my ATIV SE for the duration. Not impressed with Android right now.

jthomas1987 said:
Had the phone now for about 2 weeks. Coming from a Samsung ATIV SE Windows phone with Win10 Mobile.
So far I like the build quality of the phone. Feels solid, glad it is not super thin like some of the new phones. Hate that, do designers think people are a bunch of wimps that can't hold anything over a 5mm thick?
The screen is good. I am not one that really cares what type of screen I have, whether its OLED or LCD. As long as I can read it, I am good with it.
Guess my biggest disappointment is with the OS. I have been away from Android on a phone, though I have three Android tablets, plus an Ipad for work and a 8" Windows tablet for tinkering.
I am NOT IMPRESSED with Android 7.0. The camera app on the V20 is good, but the processing software makes for some rather crummy pictures, either in auto or manual mode. Too much noise if you barely zoom in. Not real impressed right now after spending a couple days trying to get good with the camera.
As far as Android in general, there is too much fragmentation, almost too many apps trying to do the same function, while all of them doing it rather poorly. I don't need 5 different file managers, I just need one that does what I want it to do. Same with web browsers. How many do you really need?
Guess I am just used to using my phone as a phone first, work tool second. I don't have all the gee whiz apps like Instagram, Snapchat, and all that garbage. I use my phone for specific functions and I want apps that do it right the first time.
Hopefully by the time my contract is up on this phone, Verizon will be off CDMA and fully switched to their version of GSM. Then maybe some phone makers will start making Windows phones for their network again. Going to be a long 2 years for me. May just sell this V20, and go back to my ATIV SE for the duration. Not impressed with Android right now.
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I think you got some bloat from your carrier, not LG.

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I think you got some bloat from your carrier, not LG.
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Actually I have disabled everything from VZW except their Messaging app.
Guess you didn't follow what I was saying. Too much fragmentation in Android, period. Minimal quality controls. Instead of one or two really good apps to do a specific function, you have 15 or 20 that are at best mediocre apps.
I blame the majority of that on having Java as the main app language for Android. Any 12 year old can write code for Java, doesn't mean it is clean, concise, efficient code. Same with apps. Just because it was easily written, doesn't mean it is a good app.
Are there bad examples of other type of code? Of course, but Java seems to be the most prevalent from what I have seen.
Also the few apps that I have on Android now that I had on my Windows phone, mainly the Office and MS related ones, are not that great actually. I don't expect MS to make them as good for Android, but even then, at least make them useable.