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Sadly, Google CEO Eric Schmidt has confirmed that there wont be a Nexus Two:
http://androinica.com/2010/07/05/go...oming-that-means-a-nexus-two-is-coming-right/
Im actually really disappointed, as I planned on selling my Nexus One to upgrade to the Nexus Two. Then it made me wonder....I wonder now if the resale price on the Nexus One will go higher, as this is the only phone Google had directly manufactured for them?
I managed to get 120 euros for my old G1 when I sold it, and it was a year old (I babied it and kept it in FLAWLESS condition). I paid 370 Euros for my Nexus One (contract free) from someone who had purchased it from Google directly and only had it for a week. I wonder now if when January comes around, if I can get more for it now?
Would you sell your Nexus One later this year if you knew you could get more for it than what you paid? And if you could, do you think its worth it to sell it or hold onto it? Do you think Nexus Ones that came directly from Google vs a carrier will be worth more?
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I paid $199 for my AT&T 3G Band Nexus One & Dock... I'm pretty sure I could get back what I paid now, even if they do make a N2
They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
Then what will be the next phone to receive updates without carrier consent? Or the next developer phone entirely? Or the next phone with fastboot OEM unlock? There may not be a Nexus two, but there needs to be a equivalent.
My nexus is going in my permanent collection I think. It's too nice of a phone to sell when I'm done with it. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but It's almost like a collectors phone in a way.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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yep...and then it's exclusive status will cause it to sell out faster...maybe the year after they can up it to 500K and soon the Nexus brand will be widely known as quality and exclusivity..."oh you have an iPhone 6? well **BAM** I have a Nexus 3, you were saying?"
You guys are forgetting that Google has never really been about content CREATION. The nexus was some kind of weird test for them and their production/marketing teams. They're much happier (as an organization) to either be a link from others' created content or to provide backend support for others. They don't want to be in the production, direct selling, QA, and support business. This is why you'll probably never see another google phone.
very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
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they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
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dedicated GPU and the newer multitouch sensors....oh I'd like the touch buttons to be either heavily improved or replaced with good quality hard buttons that look like the Legend's
Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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That's rumored for this winter: http://androidspin.com/2010/06/24/rumor-dual-core-800mhz-phone-hitting-t-mobile-before-holidays/
im gonna hang on to alexis, my nexus, for a bit and retire it as i did my adp1. i think the htc sidekick looks like a worthy replacement in the specs but if its got a ui over stock android im out. Nothing beats having a unbranded device.
i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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Honestly mate, that's what's happened to the iPhone, don't cha think? At least that's how it is in Singapore. Every other schmuck has an iPhone. To think that not too long ago, anything with an "i" as the first letter in its name was something to be proud of. Now it's a phone for the masses.
What I'm trying to say is, I suppose Schmidt had his heart in the right place when he decided to announce that Google's pulled the plug on the project..
However having said that, a "limited edition" every year (to the date, e.g. 5 Jan 2011 for N2) would be wicked
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i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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yea you could forcestop the sense homescreen, but that's about it...you couldn't do anything about the systemwide integration of sense.
If these OEMs made their skins like home replacements or something and simply disabled stock launcher that'd be great...that way regular joes would use their OS and the more tech savvy people would easily disable the OEM home replacement. Then updates would probably happen faster as well.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
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I don't think you need to go looking for a phone as such, I think they find you in a way.....
I went to the shop for my upgrade and saw the G1 for the first time, bang! that was it! that was the handset I wanted.
I then wanted the Hero and I'm now on the Nexus.
Of all the phones out now there is truly not one I want, I'd love a mash up of a couple though! (Samsung S Amoled screen, Desire radio, 8mb camera with Dual flash, HD video, hard buttons...etc).
Basically, until a new hadset comes out, makes me want I don't go looking.
Hey everyone
Im inlove with this site and have had great success in routing and trying different roms for my Htc Hero CDMA, Amazing work from all of you.
i pose a question to you folks about these upcomming tablets that are being nocked off. And would like some input. Take this tablet from ebay
cgi.ebay.com/7-Notebook-WiFi-Google-Android-2-0-MID-Tablet-PC-/320619058357?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item4aa66294b5
super awesome price for a pretty basic setup. Im in the research and development ideas of tablets. And have written off Apples due to some of the limitations.
I would love to be able to snag one of these cheap ones and experiment.
they come loaded with said to be Android 2.1 and looks alright but id love to be able to load in like the gps navigaitions and maybe update it to similar like services in Froyo 2.2 im thinking i wont be able to just download the root program and flash a cyanogen mod and were good to go? but at that price i wouldnt mind taking a stab at it almost.
anyone have any ideas?! or if this would be possible to flash?
-Yetti
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Hey everyone
Im inlove with this site and have had great success in routing and trying different roms for my Htc Hero CDMA, Amazing work from all of you.
i pose a question to you folks about these upcomming tablets that are being nocked off. And would like some input. Take this tablet from ebay
cgi.ebay.com/7-Notebook-WiFi-Google-Android-2-0-MID-Tablet-PC-/320619058357?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item4aa66294b5
super awesome price for a pretty basic setup. Im in the research and development ideas of tablets. And have written off Apples due to some of the limitations.
I would love to be able to snag one of these cheap ones and experiment.
they come loaded with said to be Android 2.1 and looks alright but id love to be able to load in like the gps navigaitions and maybe update it to similar like services in Froyo 2.2 im thinking i wont be able to just download the root program and flash a cyanogen mod and were good to go? but at that price i wouldnt mind taking a stab at it almost.
anyone have any ideas?! or if this would be possible to flash?
-Yetti
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The risk you take with a cheap "chinese" device is that it most likely won't receive any support. If nobody wants to buy it, and the manufacturer can't be found it's unlikely anybody other than yourself would be interested in trying to modify the firmware.
On the same point, the good manufacturers (Samsung, HTC etc) build decent mechanisms into their devicies to allow firmware upgrades, wheras cheap devices can be hit and miss.
Essentially, I would say that if you were to buy a cheap one such as that, you will be lucky to even get a root, but I wouldn't expect anything more.
Long story short, you want a good device, don't waste money on cheap junk, fork out for a GTab and get the real deal.
I tend to agree. "You get what you pay for" is definitely true in this case.
If what you want is a learning project, something to actually just "experiment" with, then yeah, some of the cheaper ones might not be a terrible idea. I learned a lot of the stuff I know from modifying some of the much cheaper devices (Velocity Micro Cruz Reader/Tablet). They were a good way to get into the swing of flashing new firmwares, modifying source code, etc.
That said, what it sounds like, is that you actually want a useful device, you just want it to be modded 'just so', for what you intend to use it for. If you want a GOOD device, that you actually intend to use for things like GPS, then I would have to say, avoid the cheap ones. They are usually buggy, updates are infrequent, and they just don't perform as well. Plus, there will be far less people working on them, so less people to provide assistance if you get stuck.
If you want a fast car that doesn't give you a lot of problems, buy a brand new Mustang.
If you want a cheap project, a way to learn about fixing and repairing cars, buy an 15 year old Geo Metro.
It all depends on what you're biggest priority is. The Galaxy Tab is a very solid, fast device, and has tons of potential for customization. If you intend to 'use' it (do something other than experiment) then I'd say this is the way to go.
I bought one of those cheap chinese tablets a few months ago, and I can honestly say I got what I paid for.
Poor screen, poor battery life, no support, no upgrades, no kernel source.
My advice - don't bother! I gave mine to my brother to use as a browser/media player, and he's happy with it, but for your requirements, I wouldn't bother.
Regards,
Dave
http://www.androidcentral.com/barnes-noble-pulling-nook-color-ready-anti-root-measures
My friend recently broke my Nook hacked to all hell, but he has a friend that works at Wal-mart. We can get it replaced with a new nook color, but according to that article, the new ones may not be hackable. Is this true? Please help.
Bogus rumor is bogus.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/barnes-noble-pulling-nook-color-ready-anti-root-measures
My friend recently broke my Nook hacked to all hell, but he has a friend that works at Wal-mart. We can get it replaced with a new nook color, but according to that article, the new ones may not be hackable. Is this true? Please help.
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A) Check the date on the article: Thursday, Feb 3, 2011. If this was true, you'd see plenty of threads discussing rooting post-Feb 3rd Nooks.
B) It clearly explains at the very top of the article that any anti-hacking measures were totally false:
Update: sources from Barnes & Noble have stated (unofficially) that this was merely due to a brief supply shortage of Nook Colors. It looks like this was most likely a false alarm and they'll keep happily selling you Nook Colors.
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Thank goodness. I wasn't sure either; and I'm still fearful of the upcoming upgrade. It would stink if they disabled the SD boot.
I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that the ability to boot from SD first is a hardware setting, not a software option. No amount of B&N firmare/OS updates or changes can take that option away - it would require cracking open the machine and changing some hardware configuration. That was the basis for some of the rumors regarding the supply shortage some months agao - that they were pulling all of their floor stock to make this change and re-supply with non-SD-bootable devices. This obviously did not come to pass. So unless they start quietly producing machines with a new hardware configuration there is nothing to worry about.
Besides, if you just install one of the custom ROMs available then all of the updates become a non-issue. CM7 is coming along nicely - I was a firm backer of rooted stock 2.1 until the past week or so. Flashed CM7 and am quite happy with it so far.
Cheers
That's all totally untrue. Ibjust bought. NC two days ago and rooted it with AN 3.0. When i was talking to the girl who sold me it she asked if i had any questions or wanted to play around with it and i politely replied "no i just want to root it", to which she responded with "they've made some changes so that people might not be able to root these" and i just laughed and said yeah i have more faith inbthe android dev community than some dev who works at B&N.
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That's all totally untrue. Ibjust bought. NC two days ago and rooted it with AN 3.0. When i was talking to the girl who sold me it she asked if i had any questions or wanted to play around with it and i politely replied "no i just want to root it", to which she responded with "they've made some changes so that people might not be able to root these" and i just laughed and said yeah i have more faith inbthe android dev community than some dev who works at B&N.
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Just goes to show how retail people are always so uninformed about technology.
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Just goes to show how retail people are always so uninformed about technology.
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Yea. Until they make the unit stop booting off the SDcard first the sky is the limit.
B&N has no reason to not want root. I bet they made the SD card boot first so that it was easy to root. Think about it this way...the more people that want to hack it, the more people that will buy it...if it was just a pure e-reader, I doubt they would have had the sales numbers they have. Also, it is most likely possible for them to send a OTA update and stop SD boot (as it is imprinted on the hardware, but can still be changed by software) but again, I doubt they'd ever want to do that.
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B&N has no reason to not want root. I bet they made the SD card boot first so that it was easy to root. Think about it this way...the more people that want to hack it, the more people that will buy it...if it was just a pure e-reader, I doubt they would have had the sales numbers they have. Also, it is most likely possible for them to send a OTA update and stop SD boot (as it is imprinted on the hardware, but can still be changed by software) but again, I doubt they'd ever want to do that.
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I tend to agree with you on that. I and several I know would have never considered a Nook Color if it weren't easily rooted. I picked one up a new one last week and rooted it with AN 3 the minute I got home (so to the OP, there's another confirmation for you that they're still rootable).
I think B&N's intention is primarily to sell these cheaply to get you to buy digital books (which are seriously over-priced) ala the give away the razor and make money off the replacement blades model. It's working somewhat with me...I never would have bought an digital book or magazine from B&N, but I've got my eye on a few when I have a chance to actually read a book..
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I tend to agree with you on that. I and several I know would have never considered a Nook Color if it weren't easily rooted. I picked one up a new one last week and rooted it with AN 3 the minute I got home (so to the OP, there's another confirmation for you that they're still rootable).
I think B&N's intention is primarily to sell these cheaply to get you to buy digital books (which are seriously over-priced) ala the give away the razor and make money off the replacement blades model. It's working somewhat with me...I never would have bought an digital book or magazine from B&N, but I've got my eye on a few when I have a chance to actually read a book..
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I am also one of these people that would have never bought the nook if it wasn't rootable, but it's not helping BN any cause I don't buy their books either
hxh103 said:
I am also one of these people that would have never bought the nook if it wasn't rootable, but it's not helping BN any cause I don't buy their books either
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Well that is still helping B&N in two ways:
1 - What is called "economy of scale". It costs less per processor to buy 100,000 than to buy 10,000. So, if they break even on all the rooted Nooks, they save money on all the rest, or lower their selling price on all the rest, making more attractive to book readers.
2 - It raises the visibility of the Nook Color and B&N ereaders in general. Note that WSJ article about how rooting the NC gets you a bargain tablet. No doubt that that article also ended up selling some NC's to people who just want to read books bought from B&N.
The Nook rooting community is a big publicity machine for B&N, and e-books are still so new that any market share gained now is worth a lot in the future.
But the thing is, assuming they ARE at least breaking even on these "razors", then WHY has no one else been able to bring out a 7" capacitive tablet in anything like this price point?
I still feel (without any evidence) that they may be close to losing money on these and are really counting on the book sales, and that therefore future anti-rooting measures are still a possibility. Just fear and speculation on my part though...
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But the thing is, assuming they ARE at least breaking even on these "razors", then WHY has no one else been able to bring out a 7" capacitive tablet in anything like this price point?
I still feel (without any evidence) that they may be close to losing money on these and are really counting on the book sales, and that therefore future anti-rooting measures are still a possibility. Just fear and speculation on my part though...
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They can bring it out, but don't, because unlike B&N, have no further revenue after the purchase. B&N can afford to be lower, because they know that even if not all of them buy books, a good majority will buy some, now and in the future. Other tablet makers are SOL; once their device is sold, they are out of it, unless they can get some good accessories, etc...
Yeah, I'm almost surprised they let you leave the store without registering the device, like when buying a cell phone. I think we even paid cash. It's great for the consumer though! (I guess it's kind of sad that today a store letting you buy something without strings and gotchas is a source of unexpected joy.)
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Yeah, I'm almost surprised they let you leave the store without registering the device, like when buying a cell phone. I think we even paid cash. It's great for the consumer though! (I guess it's kind of sad that today a store letting you buy something without strings and gotchas is a source of unexpected joy.)
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That's mainly for the cellular aspect. You can actually buy a Xoom with cash and walk out without registering it. Might not be as easy as the Nook was (fastest I'd ever spent 250 bucks on a piece of electronics), but still possible.
Blocking Root is still possible, but not probable. Like one person said, they are making good money on their ebook sales AND the sales of the device so that's why the price point can be lower.
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I am also one of these people that would have never bought the nook if it wasn't rootable, but it's not helping BN any cause I don't buy their books either
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Likewise. Ironically enough, I don't really read books much anymore. But it was because I got the Nook Color to hack as a tablet, that I was curious about downloading a book from the Nook store. Both me and B&N are happy. They make the money they need to offset the price of the NC, and I get the tablet I wanted.
Just FYI: I got off the phone with a bud of mine that works at Motorola. To be honest the reason I called him was I wanted the XML set for the Bionic and I was hoping he could slip it to me so I could get us setup.
To my dismay... he said this:
Ever since the thing with Google was announced EVERYTHING is on lockdown. There is no more swapping motorola devices back and forth between various project developers, everyone can only work on the devices they are assigned and the sensitive stuff is not allowed off site anymore.
Used to be he would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader. Not anymore.
So we can all thank Google for the tightened security at Motorola. Thanks G!
Interesting.
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Well that sucks. Love for Google circling the drain along with VZW and electronic freedom :-(
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I would imagine they'd fire your friend or worse for what he's doing. I'm assuming they didn't know he was going out and unlocking BL's etc?
My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
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My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
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+1, In the world of business mergers and acquisitions, things get put on lockdown during transfer of ownership....Lets hope things get better once the deal is done.
If it was Google's fault, the Nexus' and Honeycomb tablets would be locked down. Just my opinion.
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If it was Google's fault, the Nexus' and Honeycomb tablets would be locked down. Just my opinion.
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+1 I think this has more to do with VZW than google....
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If it was Google's fault, the Nexus' and Honeycomb tablets would be locked down. Just my opinion.
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The Nexus devices are developers phones and the only Moto HC tablet is also a dev device. Not saying it is Google's fault, but it certainly still is a possibility. I personally believe it's the fascist ************s at VZW, and Moto is their lapdog.
That is the point. I would believe, Google would prefer a 'pure' experience on all devices. But, to convince manufacturers to build devices they let them skin it to personalize the experience. Expecting people to buy for their experience, not only their hardware.
I owned an Atrix (still do, but haven't been keeping up 100% lately and just switched to bionic) and if I remember correctly, the moto-google deal wasn't until a fair bit after the release of the Atrix and the unlock of the atrix came after the deal news first broke. I'm not saying this is necessarily proof of anything, but it's the opposite of what one would expect if the info in the OP is true.
Hasn't moto been kind of known for being a pain in the ass about locked bootloaders? I remember a lot of people had very little hope for the atrix being unlocked because of previous devices that never saw a full unlock.
First off... This phone is amazing. With that being said it has its quirks. Audio, Source and probably other things. But this device has the best potential to be the best device of the year. Of course T-Mobiles 800 dollar price in the beginning didn’t help anything. But at 375 right now that’s a steal. As of right most devs who were working on the bring up of the device have given up due to little knowledge or moto's crap. IF we can get this device into the right hands there could be so much potential. SO as for the state of the device right now its being abandoned for no reason really. SO how are we going to fix it? Thats what im here to ask you guys. Would you guys be willing to pull together and get a device pool started to get the device to the right developer and get a spark going in the community. Or leave it how it is and try to make it work. As of right now its me and maybe 2 others who were/are currently working on the device. Id like to make that a few more. Please let me know in the comments what you guys think we should do... As for me I bought the essential phone and still have the z2 and I like both but the z2 is just so fast. I really dont want this device to die. It deserves a shot.
Here is a pool for the device to go to the right dev. https://paypal.me/pools/c/80zSDgB3xa I put it at 400 to cover taxes and the device from tmobile. if there is anything else needed i will pay the rest.
Current list of devs who said they would help. @invisiblek
Anonymous
Today
$100.00
Michael Sullinger
Today
Uzephi
$50.00
david mattocks
Yesterday
$50.00
Richard Lowe
Yesterday
$10.00
James Nickell
2 days ago
$25.00
Dustin Wann
2 days ago
$20.00
Victor Gatdula
2 days ago
$20.00
Pedro Ribeiro
4 days ago
$20.00
kendall green
6 days ago
$25.00
Jean-Paul Hines
6 days ago
$20.00
Joe Moss
Today
$45.00
AND WE DID IT GUYS WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BOUGHT THE DEVICE AND I HAVE CONTACTED @invisiblek AND ITS ON THE WAY TO HIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW EXPECTED DELIVERY DATE IS THE 12TH!
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVED IN THE Z2 AND ALL THE WORK THAT WAS PUT IN PRIOR! GOOD THINGS ARE COMMING GUYS JUST HANG IN THERE!
I'm definitely down to donate. I've been learning Android but nowhere near ready to develop a ROM or anything. Once I have a PC very soon, I'll be able to test and help out with some things. If it's worth doing, I'll use my jump trade with tmobile and get a new phone and donate this one to someone actively working on it. Either way, I'd hate to give up using this phone due to lack of interest or something.
Here is a pool for the device to go to the right dev. https://paypal.me/pools/c/80zSDgB3xa I put it at 400 to cover taxes and the device from tmobile. if there is anything else needed i will pay the rest.
How does this payme work..???I'm down to donate..
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Who are you looking to get to help? Man I'm looking at getting the essential too.How do u like it compared to z²
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It's a pool as in people chip in and once we hit the 400$ I order the z2 force and ship it to a dev that can get things going for us
Chipped in $20
you might consider dees troy from TWRP. He developed TWRP for the One Plus One which allowed hardware encryption. I contacted him earlier and he said that he doesn't have a Moto Z2, doesn't plan to buy one and doesn't develop TWRP for phones he doesn't have. I have contributed.
I also had an Essential phone at one time, but returned it. It was heavier but otherwise nice. The lack of antenna's for 4 MIMO needed for Qualcomms gigabit modem was what finally convinced me to go with the Moto Z2. I haven't had any problems with the battery lasting more than a full day for me.
Also I am looking to get the keyboard mod from Livermorium when it becomes available. By the way, I just got the Insta Share Projector which came with the $300 cybermonday T mobile deal, which I plan to sell on ebay and bring the cost of the Z2 down to below $200. If anyone here is interested, PM me.
200 is quite a good deal how did you get ahold of deestroy? i would like to ask him if he would like one
through twitter, https://twitter.com/Dees_Troy
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Yeah im sure a lot of people would chip in, there is a lot of misinformation or lack of it at all. There are several threads where users say they got the device Sim Unlocked, but no where lists the process to do it, just to contact users outside of XDA. Very shady, why can no one just post the tools/instructions. Ebay/Swappa is chock full of sim locked devices that would be great deals but no one can use them because of all the new sim unlock rules form carriers. I have ATT and dont want to get a bootloader locked model from them but cant find any devices that are pre sim unlocked and i am holding off on picking one of these up until i see if the community picks up or if i should just go ahead and get the pixel xl 2.
Right now you can find unlocked tmobile z2s which work with att just fine for pretty cheap. I know personally they work on att and even support att video calling lol and at the current price their going for (375 at tmobile) its amazing. Im pretty sure i know a site that unlocks for around 40 also one that ive used numerous times. and if i can get the device to the dev im thinking of we will have lineage in no time
I'm down for development. Let's organize, plan and build.
Sounds great. I just chipped in and eager to see some ROMs down the road.
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First off... This phone is amazing. With that being said it has its quirks. Audio, Source and probably other things. But this device has the best potential to be the best device of the year. Of course T-Mobiles 800 dollar price in the beginning didn’t help anything. But at 375 right now that’s a steal. As of right most devs who were working on the bring up of the device have given up due to little knowledge or moto's crap. IF we can get this device into the right hands there could be so much potential. SO as for the state of the device right now its being abandoned for no reason really. SO how are we going to fix it? Thats what im here to ask you guys. Would you guys be willing to pull together and get a device pool started to get the device to the right developer and get a spark going in the community. Or leave it how it is and try to make it work. As of right now its me and maybe 2 others who were/are currently working on the device. Id like to make that a few more. Please let me know in the comments what you guys think we should do... As for me I bought the essential phone and still have the z2 and I like both but the z2 is just so fast. I really dont want this device to die. It deserves a shot.
Here is a pool for the device to go to the right dev. https://paypal.me/pools/c/80zSDgB3xa I put it at 400 to cover taxes and the device from tmobile. if there is anything else needed i will pay the rest.
Current list of devs who said they would help. @invisiblek
Contributors @byt3b0mb
@kendallgreen
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Can you get @invisiblek to confirm he'll work on stuff? The only things I'm really interested in are adoptable storage (or similar hacks, currently using apps2sd folder binds which are slightly buggy), and getting the Sony PS4 remote play libraries working on here so I can use it with the game pad (which I currently have working with magisk). I don't know much about Android development but I should probably break out an old device and see what I can make happen. I really want this thing to expand the storage and be security patched with the ability to play PS4 on the gamepad. That's really it haha. If someone experienced knows what they are doing and is willing to pop on board though, I'm all for pitching in to make it happen.
pkgingo said:
Can you get @invisiblek to confirm he'll work on stuff? The only things I'm really interested in are adoptable storage (or similar hacks, currently using apps2sd folder binds which are slightly buggy), and getting the Sony PS4 remote play libraries working on here so I can use it with the game pad (which I currently have working with magisk). I don't know much about Android development but I should probably break out an old device and see what I can make happen. I really want this thing to expand the storage and be security patched with the ability to play PS4 on the gamepad. That's really it haha. If someone experienced knows what they are doing and is willing to pop on board though, I'm all for pitching in to make it happen.
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If we get the device to him, Invisiblek said he'd assist where he can.
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If we get the device to him, Invisiblek said he'd assist where he can.
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Well yeah I see people saying that but I don't see him saying that. Any chance he can confirm? It's not that I don't trust you guys, it's that I've donated to causes in the past where a half hearted comment in a one off pm was blown out of proportion. I'm willing to take the risk you guys aren't going to take the PayPal money and run either, I just want some confirmation that yeah, this dev will seriously give this a shot if given a device from their own mouth basically.
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Well yeah I see people saying that but I don't see him saying that. Any chance he can confirm? It's not that I don't trust you guys, it's that I've donated to causes in the past where a half hearted comment in a one off pm was blown out of proportion. I'm willing to take the risk you guys aren't going to take the PayPal money and run either, I just want some confirmation that yeah, this dev will seriously give this a shot if given a device from their own mouth basically.
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I understand your worry. I wouldn't have donated $50 if I didn't know if the device would go to good hands.
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Update per the Z2 discord: We have pooled enough money and @joemossjr is mailing the device to @invisiblek. Estimated delivery is a week from today. I see great things for this device's future! Huzzah!
I'm so excited you are working on this @invisiblek . Since the goal was reached I am sending you a donation directly via paypal
I have a bricked Z2F currently, which is why I am not contributing right now. Looks like its either wait an unknown amount of time until a blankflash is released for it, hack the xaomi blankflash to work with the Z2F, or pay the $150 to have motorola replace it for me. I am thinking that I am going to just pay the $150 because it is much better than waiting until this phone becomes out of date.
Side note, dont switch boot slots after flashing TWRP and then try to switch back to the original slot with adb. Reflash the device.