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[SOLVED] Nandroid restores on two different phones? [UPDATE 7/26/09]

Hey all,
Are nandroid restores specific to one particular device or can they be interchanged between two G1's? I have a spare G1 that I play around with that has root while my other G1 doesn't have root. I am thinking about rooting the other one and wanted to know if I could just go through the rooting process, (radio, spl, cyanogen recovery etc) throw on a cyanogenmod or JF, then do a nandroid restore from the spare device with all my settings on it. I know that nandroid creates a unique numerical folder that has your latest backup in it so I wasn't sure if this folder would be seen by nandroid on a different phone.
Any thoughts?
EDIT:
Just wanted to update this thread in case anyone else wanted/needed to do this. As I suspected, I ran into folder name problems when trying to copy one nandroid restore to my spare phone and trying a restore. There is a simple fix however....
1) Perform a nandroid backup on the phone you WANT to backup.
2) Copy that nandroid folder from the phone to your PC.
3) Perform a nandroid backup on the phone you DON'T WANT to backup.
4) Copy that nandroid folder from the phone to your PC.
5) Compare the nandroid subfolder name (should be alpha-numeric starting with HT) of the backup you want to the name of the one you don't.
6) Change the name of the nandroid subfolder on the backup you want to restore to the same name of the folder you don't want. This way you fool nandroid into thinking that the backup was originally done on that phone.
7) Copy the entire nandroid folder (with the newly changed subfolder name) to the sdcard of the phone you want to restore.
8) Boot into recovery (power+home) and perform the nandroid restore. If the restore fails, you probably don't have the correct subfolder name. Return to step 5 and 6.
9) If the restore is successful, reboot and you should be all set!

Good question. I wouldn't have thought there would be issues with it bar of course your settings etc but then a wipe before would resolve that. Just make sure to do what you've said though (upgrade radio, SPL, recovery etc) first.

DirectMatrix said:
Hey all,
Are nandroid restores specific to one particular device or can they be interchanged between two G1's? I have a spare G1 that I play around with that has root while my other G1 doesn't have root. I am thinking about rooting the other one and wanted to know if I could just go through the rooting process, (radio, spl, cyanogen recovery etc) throw on a cyanogenmod or JF, then do a nandroid restore from the spare device with all my settings on it. I know that nandroid creates a unique numerical folder that has your latest backup in it so I wasn't sure if this folder would be seen by nandroid on a different phone.
Any thoughts?
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It won't upgrade your SPL, radio, and recovery. If you look in the nandroid folder, you'll see exactly what is backed up. I think its the /system folder and the /data folder as well as something else. But if you have another phone that is already rooted and has the correct SPL, radio, and recovery, this will work.

Should be fine then as he's planning on doing the usual steps up until flashing the desired ROM of choice. Tell us how it goes DirectMatrix and if it works, please change your thread title to include [SOLVED] so we all know ^_^

NeoBlade said:
Should be fine then as he's planning on doing the usual steps up until flashing the desired ROM of choice. Tell us how it goes DirectMatrix and if it works, please change your thread title to include [SOLVED] so we all know ^_^
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Gonna start rooting the other phone now so I'll keep this thread updated with whether nandroid backups are swappable between phones. I hope so as that will save me quite a bit of settings/data calibrations.
@h.nocturna... LOL, you have been dealing with n00bs too long in the Q&A section....of course nandroid won't upgrade my radio, SPL, and recovery, but I had a good laugh anyways. Thanks all for the advice

Soft Bricked... can I get my data off?

My friend was doing the OTA to ICS, but the phone powered off midway through the update and is now softbricked.
How can I access the data on the internal SD card? There are pictures which HAVE to be removed. The phone was rooted, not sure if it has CWM.
Any help would be appreciated. I don't have the D4 on me right now, but I will get it on Saturday in it's half-bricked state, needing repair.

Try RSDLite to flash the fastboot files for ICS.

anon117 said:
Try RSDLite to flash the fastboot files for ICS.
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Doesn't RSD delete all data on the phone?

Toaster Strudels said:
Doesn't RSD delete all data on the phone?
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It didn't the one time I needed to do it.
As far as I can tell, if it's in /sdcard or /sdcard-ext, it would be safe. Downloads, photos, documents, and the like would be there.
Application specific stuff (like notes in a note-keeping application... Note Everything, I'm looking at you) may go. I hope you had that backed up. Frankly, I don't know any way to pull those out anyways. (Most of the ones I've seen in that class are MySQL databases in application-specific directories. If the app has an option to back those up to sdcard, I always use it; that way, it can be restored post-flash by the application.)

[Q] Please Help!! (TWRP BACKUP)

Please help me! I was on Sense 5 rooted with twrp installed. Decided id try out the new CM 10.1 for the HTC ONE. So i backed up my system, data and everything else and proceeded to install CM. Decided it wasnt for me, went to TWRP, went to restore and there are no files there? What happened? I can see I only have 6GB storage available so the file is there somewhere!! How do i flash the backup? i read about a twrp utility or that the file structure is off?
Thanks for your help!!

UPDATE: When I go into a file manager, the backup from today is there.. it is in TWRP> BACKUPS> HT34JXXXXXX> (2013-05-14 @ 8:06 AM)
and inside that folder are the usual backup files. BUT IT STILL WONT SHOW UP IN TWRP WHEN I PRESS "RESTORE"

Anyone? I'm dieing here!!!

Reflash recovery, and see if now work.
I've restored yesterday my backup and no prob with TWRP.
And search your file in sdcard/0
If it will not work, reflash rom.

Don't know if this happened but I had a galaxy s3 before I got the htc one and I understood that cyanogenmod is a 4.2.2 type of rom and we have a 4.1.2 rom. A lot of peeps in the galaxy's forum would have trouble going back to touchwiz roms because the say flashing a 4.2.2type of rom partitions the memory files differently so then the 4.1.1 stock or custom roms. You may have to somehow unroot the phone and "push" the phone back to stock using your computer. People had to do that before with the s3. Hope that helps maybe. I have to go to work now. Good luck

Should I try to flash clockwork mod? Just go into the play store, download and flash from within the app? I don't understand I made a full nandroid it is in my phone and on my computer.. Why can't twrp recognize it?

Okaay said:
Should I try to flash clockwork mod? Just go into the play store, download and flash from within the app? I don't understand I made a full nandroid it is in my phone and on my computer.. Why can't twrp recognize it?
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CWM can't restore TWRP backup.
If you backupped your rom with TWRP, this will restore it.
Did you try to see in sdcard/0?

Guich said:
CWM can't restore TWRP backup.
If you backupped your rom with TWRP, this will restore it.
Did you try to see in sdcard/0?
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This is in the stock cm10 file manager. This is the exact backup I'd like to restore but when I go into the recovery and press on restore, nothing shows please keep responding!!!!

For team win recover the files need to be in /sdcard/0 the number zero or it won't be recognized. Move the directory structure to /sdcard/0. Also copy the directory with the backup to your computer in case.
Can we see the whole directory structure of where these files are located? like /recovery/2012305/ or where ever it happens to be?

nullkill said:
For team win recover the files need to be in /sdcard/0 the number zero or it won't be recognized. Move the directory structure to /sdcard/0. Also copy the directory with the backup to your computer in case.
Can we see the whole directory structure of where these files are located? like /recovery/2012305/ or where ever it happens to be?
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Yeah man, I'll post the pics. Here they are looks as though it is in 0/
I just backed up the cm ROM just to see what would happen and now when I go to restore, the cm10 backup is the only one there and I can't locate it in file manager anywhere
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Okaay said:
Yeah man, I'll post the pics. Here they are looks as though it is in 0/
I just backed up the cm ROM just to see what would happen and now when I go to restore, the cm10 backup is the only one there and I can't locate it in file manager anywhere
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Search the SD card for boot.emmc.win you should get two results one from the original backup and one from the new one. You need to get both the backups together. Also copy your original backup to your computer so you have a copy of it in case you need to wipe or something.

nullkill said:
Search the SD card for boot.emmc.win you should get two results one from the original backup and one from the new one. You need to get both the backups together. Also copy your original backup to your computer so you have a copy of it in case you need to wipe or something.
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This is what I see... Someone please help, the backup I wanna restore is already I'm TWRP folder on the internal storage but no files show up when I try the "restore" option in the recovery
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Okaay said:
This is what I see... Someone please help, the backup I wanna restore is already I'm TWRP folder on the internal storage but no files show up when I try the "restore" option in the recovery
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OK so did you copy your backup to your computer yet???? Well if not now would really really be the time to do that. Looks like there is a issue with how CM is doing the SD card and TWRP. So first copy the backup off of your phone. Should I say it again? COPY THE BACKUP OFF YOUR PHONE. Now go get the correct RUU for your phone. Run that sucker and restore the phone to stock. You will need to relock your bootloader. Once that is done put TWRP back on your phone and copy your backup to the phone.

Ran into this myself. Because of 4.2.2's support for multiple users, it segments the internal storage into pieces(i.e. 0 for first user, 1 for second user, 2, 3, so on). I didn't realize this and had to start from scratch.
Copy your TWRP backup(and anything else you don't want to lose) to your computer and delete the 0 file. Re-add your files to the internal storage(be sure to keep a copy on your computer). Then reboot into bootloader, fastboot erase cache, reflash, and reboot into recovery. Don't let the CM10.1 ROM start up, otherwise you'll be doing it again.
Alternatively, use the All-In-One toolkit to adb sideload a non-CM10.1 ROM onto your phone, delete the 0 folder(after transferring to your computer what you don't want to lose, of course), reboot recovery, and attempt to restore.

Thanks guys, got it working
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This is the same problems people with the GNex came across moving back from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 last year - you have to remember the internal memory changed and manually move fles to the non-0 folders! You guys should read up more before jumping head long into a new Android version!
Glad it's sorted now though

nullkill said:
For team win recover the files need to be in /sdcard/0 the number zero or it won't be recognized. Move the directory structure to /sdcard/0. Also copy the directory with the backup to your computer in case.
Can we see the whole directory structure of where these files are located? like /recovery/2012305/ or where ever it happens to be?
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OOPs--sorry this must be an HTC specific problem--sorry for poking my Samsung nose in...
Maybe I am not understanding the thread but--
In my Galaxy Note2 all my TWRP backups, and I have about 5, are all in ext.sd. card and I have used it to restore on several occasions--could be a device specific situation, but in Note2 it's fine to have them in ext.sd card.

[Q] Questions regarding compressed recovery img and data on note 4

Hey Everyone,
I am new to XDA forums,(have used it for troubleshooting in the past but just registered today)
I am also new to android and linux, personally i don't use my phone for anything other than calls or games(i mostly do pc's), however my wife does a lot, she has written her own code, does mods, etc...., and we are both stumped. I am asking this on her behalf, due to a terminal illness she has lost the ability to do several things. On April 30th the lollipop update was pushed to her Note 4 (T-mobile US branded) and it wiped out all of her app data as well as her entire SD card. My question is in 2 parts one regarding the TWRP backup for this phone, and another regarding recovering the SD data from this phone(please let me know if i need to break this out into multiple sections of the site).
We have a TWRP backup that was compressed and loaded onto her cloud storage on 4/27/15, and we are unable to figure out how to get TWRP to recognize it without giving an error about the binary code or just not working period. Here is what we have tried(On advice not just from other XDA posts but various android forums as well)
Using TWRP(7zip for unpacking and repacking)
1. Downloaded the TWRP back up into windows
2. Renamed all files of the back up to be .tar, with the exception of boot which was converted to .img
3. Added Meta-Inf file from what was suppose to be stock ROM( she was not running a custom on this phone)
4. Re-archived everything back into Zip and sideloaded.
result : Error in binary code
Using Odin
1. Converted recovery (file only from backup) to md5 using Cygwin
2. Flashed using Odin
Result: Gained back a few programs but no app data or text histories
We have also tried varying versions of this, i.e. converting extra files or renaming extra files and receive the same issue. I am wondering if it is just an issue with the cloud stored compressed backup(or more likely i dont know what im doing)?
Second question comes from above, I was able to recovery all of the data from the SD card(everything was stored here, app data, recovery files, imgs, everything). When recovering the data it split everything up so all the sub peices of each recovery file are spread out is there a way to combine the individual file parts that were recovered from the SD card into functional android files again?
As i mentioned before i have never really dealt with this type of thing before but i want to try and fix this for her as between the 2 issues she has lost 5 years of data.
Thank you so much for your responses.

Hi, what you need to do is put the backup back into the exact same form it was before, an uncompressed, unzipped folder, then put it into the exact directory where TWRP puts backups when it makes them, and then in TWRP choose the option to restore. If you put the backup in the correct directory, TWRP will see it and allow you to choose it to restore it. Basically you just wanna put the backup back where it was before and then restore it in TWRP.
I wasn't sure if you had done this or not. If you have the backup folder with all the contents in their original form, it should work. I've even moved a backup from one phone onto another phone, exact same model of course, and then restored that backup onto the new phone!
I've never converted a backup into another form to be flashed another way, like Odin or as a zip in TWRP. Although I guess it could be possible it seems like it could be pretty messy.

Also if the TWRP backup was for a kit at build it will not restore on the lollipop baseband. You will need to Odin back to the kitkat NK4 build them you should be able to take the data.
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ShrekOpher said:
Also if the TWRP backup was for a kit at build it will not restore on the lollipop baseband. You will need to Odin back to the kitkat NK4 build them you should be able to take the data.
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YrrchSebor said:
Hi, what you need to do is put the backup back into the exact same form it was before, an uncompressed, unzipped folder, then put it into the exact directory where TWRP puts backups when it makes them, and then in TWRP choose the option to restore. If you put the backup in the correct directory, TWRP will see it and allow you to choose it to restore it. Basically you just wanna put the backup back where it was before and then restore it in TWRP.
I wasn't sure if you had done this or not. If you have the backup folder with all the contents in their original form, it should work. I've even moved a backup from one phone onto another phone, exact same model of course, and then restored that backup onto the new phone!
I've never converted a backup into another form to be flashed another way, like Odin or as a zip in TWRP. Although I guess it could be possible it seems like it could be pretty messy.
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Thank you both for the suggestions i will give them a try shortly and i will provide an update on how things go.

Yeah, if you put the backup folder in the right directory, which is either internal or external sdxard/TWRP/BACKUPS/serial #/, you could restore just the data at least and it ought to be mostly ok. You ,might need to clear data in an app here or there if they force close.... or if it's too much then yeah, Odin back to KitKat and restore the desired components of the backup.

YrrchSebor said:
Yeah, if you put the backup folder in the right directory, which is either internal or external sdxard/TWRP/BACKUPS/serial #/, you could restore just the data at least and it ought to be mostly ok. You ,might need to clear data in an app here or there if they force close.... or if it's too much then yeah, Odin back to KitKat and restore the desired components of the backup.
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Thank you for this, i double checked we had it in the right directory, but it still failed. At first it said something about a missing md5, but i tried again and i was able to get the log for the failure though. (attached below)

Hmm, I looked at the logs trying to make sure you chose to Restore in TWRP and not Install. If so it's possible the backup could have gotten altered or corrupted in the transferring back and forth. If you get it intact as it was, it SHOULD work, but I'm but sure what else to do at the moment. I hope you get it working

Sorry for the delay
Hey Everyone,
Sorry for the delay its been a long week, bad thing after bad thing kept happening. I was able to try your suggestions and i put together some additional information in hope this might help us try and figure it out.
*I must figure out how to recover, texts, contacts, call locks. My default texting app was google messenger.
So I figured I would start with the phone
I am using a Samsung SM-910T on 4.4.4 (build *ANK4) It was pretty Vanilla -> rooted, but running the stock ROM
1. The phone was set to do a full internal backup nightly using the online nandroid backup (by H3r3T1L)
2. Backups were set to be in TWRP backup format and to save to an external SD card, then to compress before being uploaded to google drive
3. Backups were set to delete from SD card after the upload was finished.
What happened
1. When stock 5.0.1 firmware OTA came out i was trying to dismiss the notification but apparently hit "accept" by mistake, causing the system to crash.
2. While restoring the phone, i attempted to download the most recent backup from the google drive and flash the zip to restore my data.
3. This Zip would not install, and i noticed all of the backups uploaded had the same anomally-a few of the files were 0 bytes
4. I downgraded the phone to ANK4 based on the above recommendation but it has made no difference.
5. I still get updated binary error and each time i flash the zip, my OS gets wiped.
6. I have tried instructions to just unzip and flash , to put zips in twrp backup folder, to build new file with meta-inf, etc. and nothing seems to work.
When the SD card got deleted I was able to retrieve some data from the deleted SD card, but don't know where the text messages are located or how to combine them back into a usable format. Or at the very least be able to extract the SMS/MMS history.
I hope this extra information helps. In any way im am desperate to try and fix this for my wife.

I believe you can use Titanium Backup to extract files from a TWRP image. If you can't extract anything from the backup it's either corrupted, in the wrong place, or in the wrong form - that is due to the compression decompression not being compatible (all zip programs are not equal). Best of luck.
BTW, you must restore TWRP files not install them.
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Can't move TWRP folder off phone

I recently unlocked my bootloader using sunshine and installed TWRP. After rebooting into recovery, I immediately made a backup of my phone. When I plug my phone in, I can see the TWRP folder, but it shows as empty. None of my file explorers can see anything, either. TWRP, however, is able to see it when I go into the file manager. I can't get ADB to see the device when hooked up to my computer while in TWRP. MTP also doesn't work. Chmod 755 and 777 doesn't do anything. I was able to initially copy the TWRP folder into the downloads folder in the TWRP file manager, but now it just hangs there if I try to move it again.
How do I get access to my backup?

evanft said:
I recently unlocked my bootloader using sunshine and installed TWRP. After rebooting into recovery, I immediately made a backup of my phone. When I plug my phone in, I can see the TWRP folder, but it shows as empty. None of my file explorers can see anything, either. TWRP, however, is able to see it when I go into the file manager. I can't get ADB to see the device when hooked up to my computer while in TWRP. MTP also doesn't work.
How do I get access to my backup?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/twrp-backup-file-location-t3259060

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/twrp-backup-file-location-t3259060
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Unfortunately, there aren't any solutions in that thread.

evanft said:
Unfortunately, there aren't any solutions in that thread.
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There are two solutions in the first 4 posts:
ruledrbrt1 suggests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64048593&postcount=2
And GeoFX has the great : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64049328&postcount=5
Both work on my phone so they should work on yours too.
Have you given file explorer root privileges?

josephpalozzi said:
There are two solutions in the first 4 posts:
ruledrbrt1 suggests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64048593&postcount=2
And GeoFX has the great : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64049328&postcount=5
Both work on my phone so they should work on yours too.
Have you given file explorer root privileges?
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I didn't even see GeoFX's post for some reason. That looks like it worked. Thanks!

TWRP and NAND Backups
I had the same question, and found the previous thread too. So what's the difference between these 2 locations?
/data/media/0/TWRP
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/sdcard/TWRP
From my point of view, they are duplicates - same data in both folders, just duplicated into separate partitions. If this is true, then my 7.5 GB NAND backup, is really taking up 15GB of memory. Can that be true? I'm doubting it, but you never know.
I started to dive into this, because I was also wondering if NAND backups made copies of my media or not (photos, music, etc). After digging into it a bit, it looks like it does NOT make a backup of anything in the root folder "/data/media" in order to prevent it from non-stop backing up in a loop (you can't back up the location your backing up to, at the same time). This is also noted on github: https://github.com/TeamWin/Team-Win-Recovery-Project/issues/276 Logically, this would make sense since I currently have 25 GB of data in my /sdcard/ location. That's one helluva compression if you were able to get this down to 7.5GB! So I'm guessing this isn't included, which is also why I'm guessing that these are really the same. /sdcard/ must be a shortcut to the /data/media/0/ location, that's my best understanding.
So my original question still stands. What's the reason for these 2 locations, and is there a difference?
This also brings up the next question, what's the best way to make an all-encompassing backup? NAND + Titanium Backup + copy all the contents of your /sdcard/ over to your computer (or OTG drive)?

Florestan2 said:
I had the same question, and found the previous thread too. So what's the difference between these 2 locations?
/data/media/0/TWRP
and
/sdcard/TWRP
From my point of view, they are duplicates - same data in both folders, just duplicated into separate partitions. If this is true, then my 7.5 GB NAND backup, is really taking up 15GB of memory. Can that be true? I'm doubting it, but you never know.
I started to dive into this, because I was also wondering if NAND backups made copies of my media or not (photos, music, etc). After digging into it a bit, it looks like it does NOT make a backup of anything in the root folder "/data/media" in order to prevent it from non-stop backing up in a loop (you can't back up the location your backing up to, at the same time). This is also noted on github: https://github.com/TeamWin/Team-Win-Recovery-Project/issues/276 Logically, this would make sense since I currently have 25 GB of data in my /sdcard/ location. That's one helluva compression if you were able to get this down to 7.5GB! So I'm guessing this isn't included, which is also why I'm guessing that these are really the same. /sdcard/ must be a shortcut to the /data/media/0/ location, that's my best understanding.
So my original question still stands. What's the reason for these 2 locations, and is there a difference?
This also brings up the next question, what's the best way to make an all-encompassing backup? NAND + Titanium Backup + copy all the contents of your /sdcard/ over to your computer (or OTG drive)?
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The way I understand it, and I might be wrong, is that before Android 4.0 (or maybe 5.0), the partition containing user data was called /sdcard and apps were stored in a separate partition. The partition where apps went was significantly smaller, which could result in people running out of space for apps while still having a ton of free user data. To remedy this, the newer version of android places apps and user data in the same partition (called media). The /sdcard that you see is a symlink (shortcut) to this new partition, and is included so that older apps that were designed to expect the /sdcard partition to be there will still work.