Hi Everyone
Just read on several sites how the latest model for Verison will Dual boot into Windows 8.1 and Android.
Is there a way to add this to the existing / original Android M8
Where did you read that?
Theres no way they would release a verison with 2 operating systems especially when android has been widly available for the device. Theres currently no version of a bootloader that has the right environment for windows adding an android boot to there bootloader "to try and even get back to android" Unfortunetly android is open sourse and windows is not, they would have to release there sourcecode to the developing world if they wanted to dual boot with android and they wont. so its up to us to exctract it on our end to make android 's boot loader able to dual boot into windows and hopefully find a way to get back.
Affableaardvark said:
Hi Everyone
Just read on several sites how the latest model for Verison will Dual boot into Windows 8.1 and Android.
Is there a way to add this to the existing / original Android M8
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it's not the source code which Needs to be released...it's the bootloader which Needs to be extracted and opened to get it working on the android Version! and that's difficult unless someone like cotulla will work on it!
Agreed im just saying we wouldnt need to extract it if they just handed it to us to work with and i hope cotulla does!
One-M8-Master said:
it's not the source code which Needs to be released...it's the bootloader which Needs to be extracted and opened to get it working on the android Version! and that's difficult unless someone like cotulla will work on it!
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FNX23837 said:
Where did you read that?
Theres no way they would release a verison with 2 operating systems especially when android has been widly available for the device. Theres currently no version of a bootloader that has the right environment for windows adding an android boot to there bootloader "to try and even get back to android" Unfortunetly android is open sourse and windows is not, they would have to release there sourcecode to the developing world if they wanted to dual boot with android and they wont. so its up to us to exctract it on our end to make android 's boot loader able to dual boot into windows and hopefully find a way to get back.
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Hi
Unable to post links but on Engadget today and anandtech
Affableaardvark said:
Hi
Unable to post links but on Engadget today and anandtech
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From http://www.anandtech.com/show/8390/htc-announces-the-htc-one-m8-for-windows
For some users the most exciting prospect of the HTC One (M8) for Windows may come from the fact that it shares the same hardware as the One (M8). It's possible that the developer community will be able to load the firmware from the HTC One (M8) onto the device in a dual boot configuration with Windows Phone 8 so users can switch between the operating systems as they please.
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This is one of those, "Well it might be possible to if developers can figure it out" quotes. As the others have posted, there will be no absolute easy way to do this and a lot of the pains will be on the bootloader side. If someone DOES happen to figure it out, I don't see it happening for a LONG time (This also counts as hope for someone to prove me wrong ). We can only be hopeful that HTC failed to lock down something they should have done.
The HD2 was like the holy grail and I don't see that same sort of configuration happening again.
Htc has in m8 wp8.1 version something like s-off for android devices...in one m8 wp8.1 forum there is a thread where a guy is writing about the whole thing why it won't be that easy to mod the OS etc
I'm a daily "hourly" reader of engadget and they have posted about the version with windows but Verison is not releasing a dual boot version it is up to us to make that happen! Read alittle more carfully before making assumptions. Its possible "maybe" but its allot of work as snickler said its saying whats possible not whats out. Also im with One-M8-Master on this one, check out the thread it should clear a few things up on the boot loader side. lets all hope someone gets lucky and does it!
Affableaardvark said:
Hi
Unable to post links but on Engadget today and anandtech
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if i can get my hands in cab updates for the m8 i can Extract the uefi binary volume capsule into individual efi executables
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grilledcheesesandwich said:
if i can get my hands in cab updates for the m8 i can Extract the uefi binary volume capsule into individual efi executables
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In another thread, this has been released. here
I moved this thread back to One Q&A since the moderating team decided that's where it belongs, but I'm closing it since we now have a single discussion thread for porting Windows Phone 8 to the current m8s. Please continue the discussion there.
Thanks,
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i want to develope a rom with android 2.2 for the HTC imagio but have no idea where to start. need some help
cant wait android 2.2 running on Imagio .... need some help
First off, if you would search before you post, you would know that you can't make an 'Android' ROM for a windows mobile phone. You Can however install a package that allows you to boot XDAndroid.
Blackstone build (which is most likely compatable with the whitestone) here
And if that doesn't work, well you're pretty much out of luck.
- Kyle (ThaDeanesta) ~Whitestone / Topaz Moderator
there is a user on PPCgeeks that explains how its done, i think the user is "drellisdee"
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First off, if you would search before you post, you would know that you can't make an 'Android' ROM for a windows mobile phone. You Can however install a package that allows you to boot XDAndroid.
Blackstone build (which is most likely compatable with the whitestone) here
And if that doesn't work, well you're pretty much out of luck.
- Kyle (ThaDeanesta) ~Whitestone / Topaz Moderator
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The HTC Vogue is a WinMo phone with members very actively developing Android ROM's. My Vogue runs Froyo when I give it break from WinMo. I do boot from the SD card, but many boot straight to Android, with no Windows mobile to be found..
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The HTC Vogue is a WinMo phone with members very actively developing Android ROM's. My Vogue runs Froyo when I give it break from WinMo. I do boot from the SD card, but many boot straight to Android, with no Windows mobile to be found..
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Exactly. I have 3 vogues that all boot Android 2.2 from NAND, so yea, don't listen to Dean. If HE would have done HIS research, he would have known all about that.
Please build an Android ROM for the Imagio.
-M
Subscribed. Wishing this to come a reallity.
id like to see this also
okay great, so who's working on it?
Can one of you just try using the blackstone ROM please and let the rest of us know if it works?
You can always flash back to stock, so someone just try it.
My old Vogue just died, and getting a replacement is $90 since it is discontinued - OR - I can get an Imagio for $50 with my new-every-two deal.
Since I want to stick with Android, I need to know.
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nevermind...Imagio has forced data plan...VZW jerks! Guess I will stick with the Vogue replacement (no forced data required)
If you want android *DONT* get the HTC Imagio, nobody is working on it...
Android uses Apache License
ThaDeanesta said:
First off, if you would search before you post, you would know that you can't make an 'Android' ROM for a windows mobile phone. You Can however install a package that allows you to boot XDAndroid.
And if that doesn't work, well you're pretty much out of luck.
- Kyle (ThaDeanesta) ~Whitestone / Topaz Moderator
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I completely disagree with you, are you really a developer?, look at the Apache License in wikipedia
Free software can be modifyed !!
Do you still want to develop Android for the Whitestone?
I know where to start !!
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I completely disagree with you, are you really a developer?, look at the Apache License in wikipedia
Free software can be modifyed !!
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Agreed...ThaDeanesta doesn't know what he/she is talking about. There are tons of Android ROMs for Windows mobile phones. The most active community is probably the HTC Vogue/HTC Touch forum for custom Android ROMs running on stock WM 6.1, 6.5 devices.
It booted (i guess) !!
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i want to develope a rom with android 2.2 for the HTC imagio but have no idea where to start. need some help
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Try this:
[Hi, i was ale to boot yesterday but i found a problem with the LCD screen, it is not recognized and is blank, i think maybe we can work it out using the correct command line arguments in the startup.txt HaRET file
Please try it, i need help:
http://www.4shared.com/file/h9LTDTdp...imagiotar.html
The screen is blank, but i know it boots because it turns off the screen after a minute and responds to the "send" buttom and turns on, also it created a data.img and FSCK0000.REC file
There's a lot of work to do but we are on the right way !!!
Thak's
Sorry if this has already been answered.. I would like to flash some custom rom but in order to do so I have to upgrade my firmware version (which is I9000XXJF3 at the moment.) I have a rooted device and I have successfully flashed ROM manager and recovery image - ClockworkMod). But I believe it is not possible to use that tool in order to flash Samsung firmware upgrade. Am I wrong?
I cannot use odin as I am not a windows user. and Odin drivers are not at all installed on my vmware fusion XP virtual machine.
Is there ANY other way to do firmware upgrade without using Odin?
any help appreciated.
And a huge thanks to all the community.
I haven't found a way. though I do have a copy of windows laying around for testing web apps which is how I ended up flashing my sgs.
It'd be interesting if someone knows the protocol Odin and Kies use to connect with the device or at least maybe generate a common effort to reverse it so we can build drivers and a flash utility for other platforms
as far as i know, this it is not possible at the moment. i am no windows user myself but i managed to get odin running with a windozeXP running on a virtualbox under a ubuntu 10.04 guest os.
yeah, it's a pain in the ass but as soon as standalone custom roms appear we won't need odin any more. flashing out of the recovery makes much more sense!
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It'd be interesting if someone knows the protocol Odin and Kies use to connect with the device or at least maybe generate a common effort to reverse it so we can build drivers and a flash utility for other platforms
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you could try to sniff the traffic on the usb port to reverse-engineer the protocol, but i guess it's not worth the effort because of the reason i stated above...
jodue said:
flashing out of the recovery makes much more sense!
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That it does, but that never stopped fastboot from being your best friend if anything went wrong. It's a pity Odin isn't as simple as fastboot, or that the SGS isn't fastboot-compatible. Sigh.
true. any clue when such roms are hittin the road?
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That it does, but that never stopped fastboot from being your best friend if anything went wrong. It's a pity Odin isn't as simple as fastboot, or that the SGS isn't fastboot-compatible. Sigh.
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very true! fastboot is (was) indeed a fine (backup) tool!
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true. any clue when such roms are hittin the road?
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i hope soon. samsung put the source on their site but nothing yet. makes me wondering ... i am currently trying to compile the kernel myself but it doesn't work out of the box with the information they provided, the build scripts are a little messed up... but i think it can not be long before someone cooks something up. there are also rumors that someone of the cyanogen-mod team started with the sgs
edit: i downloaded the source again today. it's some mb's bigger and this time it compiles like my gentoo in the good ol' day's
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very true! fastboot is (was) indeed a fine (backup) tool!
i hope soon. samsung put the source on their site but nothing yet. makes me wondering ... i am currently trying to compile the kernel myself but it doesn't work out of the box with the information they provided, the build scripts are a little messed up... but i think it can not be long before someone cooks something up. there are also rumors that someone of the cyanogen-mod team started with the sgs
edit: i downloaded the source again today. it's some mb's bigger and this time it compiles like my gentoo in the good ol' day's
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waiting for your efforts.. and those of all others struggling to get a full rom cooked.
Any news??
Paul @ MoDaCo said his next release would be a version that didnt use Odin for flashing so try checking there....
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Search the forum here, there's a guy posting an ALPHA of some cross platform thing to replace Odin in just the last day or two. Last I read (yesterday or the day before) it was still windows only for testing, but he may have an OS X version out sooner than later.
It's called Heimlich or something along those lines...one of the Norse gods as he explains it.
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Search the forum here, there's a guy posting an ALPHA of some cross platform thing to replace Odin in just the last day or two. Last I read (yesterday or the day before) it was still windows only for testing, but he may have an OS X version out sooner than later.
It's called Heimlich or something along those lines...one of the Norse gods as he explains it.
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Ah, found it browsing, it's Heimdall, and here's the thread.
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Ah, found it browsing, it's Heimdall, and here's the thread.
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Yeah Heimdall not Heimlich
I actually made the first alpha release a while ago and have posted several updates since then. Anyway I'm releasing alpha 6 now (still Windows only). Once I can get some testers to test the Windows alpha 6 I will be making a official beta release for all platforms and I'll be releasing the source code.
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I new to flashing roms to the Vibrant, but WTF is odin, the only I can think of right of bat is a norse god or something like that.
is this correct ?
http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-...evelopers-on-thursday/?utm_campaign=twitterwp
can we get it to our HD2
Yes this is true. I already have it. What this is saying is that it is available for app developers using the updated software written for Mango. I guess it would be possible to extract somehow the actual Mango ROM from the emulator and use it here on our HD2s. But that is too involved for my time. I'm sure someone will have it available here for us soon.
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Yes this is true. I already have it. What this is saying is that it is available for app developers using the updated software written for Mango. I guess it would be possible to extract somehow the actual Mango ROM from the emulator and use it here on our HD2s. But that is too involved for my time. I'm sure someone will have it available here for us soon.
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you cant use a x86 rom for our platform, so no, its not possible.
dont confuse us tomorrow some real phones with mango will be delivered to developers, so thats the important information for us because if someone would extract the rom from the phone itself, we could use it to port it to the hd2.
the updated emulator-rom is irrelevant because its compiled for desktop-pcs.
Those who have Dev account with AppHub (Including Free Student Accounts) have or will be getting an email that links them to download a Mango Beta Update. It can be used on their Retail Dev Unlocked WP7 devices. I am currently updating my HD7 to Mango right now (60% Done).
See this post...
EDIT: If someone could tell me how the Dump the ROM once I'm upgraded, I'll happily do so for the HD2 developers.
(PM me with instructions, I won't be watching this thread.)
I dont know where this goes, but, i want to install android on ativ 3 , is that possible, what version do you guys recommend? should i install clean or rooted? do i need a keyboard or the ativ bios works? ty!
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I dont know where this goes, but, i want to install android on ativ 3 , is that possible, what version do you guys recommend? should i install clean or rooted? do i need a keyboard or the ativ bios works? ty!
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Ativ 3 ? link to that phone please.
I would go for Donut , and when you hacked the "bios !!! " you are almost there.
so your steps to do:
hack IPL bootloader.
hack sbl1.
hack sbl2.
hack sbl3.
hack UEFI.
make drivers for the whole OS.
build a rom.
boot android.
have fun and please post here again when you have it booted
Im_Roy said:
I dont know where this goes, but, i want to install android on ativ 3 , is that possible, what version do you guys recommend? should i install clean or rooted? do i need a keyboard or the ativ bios works? ty!
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Unfortunately at this time, installing another OS on the phones other than what is already there. I'm a little confused with the ATIV 3 device. If you're speaking about the ATIV Tab 3 and not the ATIV S Windows Phone, then this is the wrong forum location.
If you can reply back with some clarification, I'll be glad to help.
Yes, im sorry i cannot quote i m on my phone, but as you said is the ativ tab 3
here you can see it
This one comes with w8 preinstalled but i ... hate ... windows 8. And i wanted an alternative to this software on a tablet that has a really good hardware and a lot of memory and hdd to spare, iknow that dual booting is possible but apparently only with androidx86, thank you for your answers
OK, that's a moderately-cool looking product, but there's a reason we hadn't heard about it here:
This is the Windows Phone 8 forum. That is not a phone!
The general Win8 forum is over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt/general
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OK, that's a moderately-cool looking product, but there's a reason we hadn't heard about it here:
This is the Windows Phone 8 forum. That is not a phone!
The general Win8 forum is over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt/general
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cool.. so.. can you guys move the thread? or should i create another one there?
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cool.. so.. can you guys move the thread? or should i create another one there?
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I wouldn't create another thread there. I'll see if we can get this moved.
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I wouldn't create another thread there. I'll see if we can get this moved.
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I created another one, you can delete this one if you like.. sorry for the inconvenience
Hi guys,
I just converted to Windows phone platform as I previously used a LG G3 Andorid device. I used xda developers alot to Mod my device such as Root Access, Unlock Bootloader, Custom Recovery and install Roms and Kernels.
My question is - Is there the same sort of things for the Windows phone? This forum for Windows 8 isn't as straight forward due to different devices that are all in the one forum " Windows Phone 8 Development and Hacking "..
Could someone point me in the right direction where I may use some developer tools to unlock bootloader etc or install kernels to MOD my Lumia 930? Or is there such thing?
Hope I can get a response...
Thanks in Advanced!
Anything? These threas doesn't get acknowledged much as androids
jrrevoltar said:
Hi guys,
I just converted to Windows phone platform as I previously used a LG G3 Andorid device. I used xda developers alot to Mod my device such as Root Access, Unlock Bootloader, Custom Recovery and install Roms and Kernels.
My question is - Is there the same sort of things for the Windows phone? This forum for Windows 8 isn't as straight forward due to different devices that are all in the one forum " Windows Phone 8 Development and Hacking "..
Could someone point me in the right direction where I may use some developer tools to unlock bootloader etc or install kernels to MOD my Lumia 930? Or is there such thing?
Hope I can get a response...
Thanks in Advanced!
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It's not about the attention these forums get, it's more about all the guys are literally tired answering questions like these ( no pun intended ) .
So basically for now it's a "NO" for all your questions, you can't unlock ( i mean filesystem access ) your phone, and surely can't modify the bootloader, in this aspect WP is not like Android, it's focused on security ( enterprise in mind ).
For more on your question please refer to this thread > The first thread in "Windows Phone 8 Development and Hacking, literally "
Also, as per the rules, please don't bump your thread more than once per 24 hours. 12 hours may seem like a long time to wait for an answer but it's still annoying when people do that. The WP community is a lot smaller than the Android community. On the other hand, as VSparxx points out, you could have had your answer easily with a little research. Currently, hacks for WP8 devices without SD cards are extremely limited. Samsung and Huawei have sort-of-custom ROMs (only limited modifications possible); HTC and Nokia don't even have that.