Is there a way to tell Android what app and when or under what conditions it should exit it?
For example:
I know iOS and Android are lots different, but I can get Backgrounder on my iPod and I tell it what each app should do when I press home button.
It just gets annoying when I try to check my text message, then have to wait for the app/game/video to load again.
So if anyone knows if it is possible to have more control over how the system handles the multitasking please share.
As far as I know, you cant really do much, there are task killer apps, which I guess you can use to set apps to ignore, but genrally android does a good Job, it shouldn't be closing your apps right away unless you are running out of memory,
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
What do I have to do to remove all the apps and services that eat up all that extra ram?
Tab specs say it has 512 Ram, but I only count 400+/- in services part that shows what services are running and how much ram is used and available.
In my opinion Google is doing it all wrong, they include all this bloatware, but to uninstall it is a pain and if you do something wrong, you have to re-flash or w/e.
I think they should allow people to choose what is to be installed on there, or at least allow uninstalling of unwanted apps a lot easier with less headaches.
maxxedmk said:
What do I have to do to remove all the apps and services that eat up all that extra ram?
Tab specs say it has 512 Ram, but I only count 400+/- in services part that shows what services are running and how much ram is used and available.
In my opinion Google is doing it all wrong, they include all this bloatware, but to uninstall it is a pain and if you do something wrong, you have to re-flash or w/e.
I think they should allow people to choose what is to be installed on there, or at least allow uninstalling of unwanted apps a lot easier with less headaches.
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You can get a app from the market called startup auditor, it lets you choose which apps auto start on thier own.
What do you mean bloatware? Besides Samsung apps and touchwiz there isn't really anything extra installed
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
What I mean is all that stuff that runs in the background that takes all the memory and battery that we dont see.
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Today I got the s6 edge and I just ran the AnTuTu Benchmark but I am getting 46000 on 4 bit mode and 41000 on 32 bit.
What could be happening??
Do I need to disable at&t blow are to get full performance?? If so. What apps are safe to disable
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Ok I finally decided to disable a lot of at&t trash and some Google Apps that I never use like Google music and Google+ including many others. And then restarted the phone and ran AnTuTu and I got 61000 aprox. Maybe I could get more but I already installed my backed up apps like Facebook Dropbox and a lot of stuff (more than 100 apps according to Google play)
So I will leave this here if someone goes thru the same problem. Thanks.
chekole said:
Today I got the s6 edge and I just ran the AnTuTu Benchmark but I am getting 46000 on 4 bit mode and 41000 on 32 bit.
What could be happening??
Do I need to disable at&t blow are to get full performance?? If so. What apps are safe to disable
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I ran it and got 67689 and i have Google music and G+ enabled still with lots of apps installed
If we could root it and remove all the pre-installed crap, the phone would 1000x faster.
We know what ram boost does, prefetches apps, leaves them in memory, but does it LEARN?
In the /etc directory there is a ramboost.xml
I'm not sure what the hot counts are
But these are the apps that get pre loaded
Also
Ram boost prefetches in /data/system which shows its actually learning so there you go!
Thanks. I've always suspected it doing anything does it increase battery life by any chance if you turn it off ?
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zmafreak said:
Thanks. I've always suspected it doing anything does it increase battery life by any chance if you turn it off ?
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I have not tried this yet
But it keeps track of the following
Amount of times you have opened your apps
Most accessed files (i.e not only apps but also the files they access)
The database is fairly extensive, I don't see how it wouldn't use some battery - but to what extent I don't know.
My ramboost.xml has a bunch of random apps I've never used in it, many from Tencent too. Odd considering none of the apps, except for PUBG, are installed. They all seem to be games too.
bmg1001 said:
My ramboost.xml has a bunch of random apps I've never used in it, many from Tencent too. Odd considering none of the apps, except for PUBG, are installed. They all seem to be games too.
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That's true. I got a little curious and opened ramboost file. It's just loaded with games like pubg and other tencent games. Total BS and no normal apps were found . I guess ram boost is for games only
Paz9 said:
We know what ram boost does, prefetches apps, leaves them in memory, but does it LEARN?
In the /etc directory there is a ramboost.xml
I'm not sure what the hot counts are
But these are the apps that get pre loaded
Also
Ram boost prefetches in /data/system which shows its actually learning so there you go!
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Did you seriously notice common apps present there? All I see is gaming apps from tencent. Plus I don't even have any gaming app. Looks like it is predefined
Since last week I have my brand new Ultra...
But the battery life is soooo bad... Around 4 hours display on time (1,5h playing a game and the other 2,5h surfing/taking notes etc) I loose 50% battery..
Is this normal?
One UI is using a lot of battery... should be more like 1% unless there's a good reason.
But why?
I didn't set up anything.. Only 120 hz refresh rate
remix92 said:
But why?
I didn't set up anything.. Only 120 hz refresh rate
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Don't know. 120hz eats battery too as does increased brightness. It maybe a combination of things. All Samsung's should be optimized.
Try in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps.
Clear system cache. Use Device Care to clean Storage/user logs etc.
Keep all social media apps, shopping apps off the phone. Cloud anything will suck battery.
Turn off Google, Samsung, app and carrier fedback. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services, Gmail, Gmaps and Google backup Transport are dependencies.
Use a Package Disabler or adb edits to kill useless bloatware (leave the Samsung system apps alone!). Target only the battery hogs. Beware of dependencies and know what the apk you're disabling does! Names can be misleading.
I came across some sammy apps...
samsung-memory-guardian-4-0-04.apk
thermal-guardian-3-0-46.apk
maybe they'll assist.
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and then there is...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/2022-07-03-v0-5-1-universal-android-debloater.4069209/
note it cannot affect system apps unless you have figured out the Monstrously difficult step of rooting.
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I came across some sammy apps...
samsung-memory-guardian-4-0-04.apk
thermal-guardian-3-0-46.apk
maybe they'll assist.
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and then there is...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/2022-07-03-v0-5-1-universal-android-debloater.4069209/
note it cannot affect system apps unless you have figured out the Monstrously difficult step of rooting.
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Don't have such apk/packages on my device
Used "Package Manager" from. Playstore to check
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Don't have such apk/packages on my device
Used "Package Manager" from. Playstore to check
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They are from the Galaxy Store. These aren't the solutions you need. Package Disabler will work with Android 9 and 10, no problem. PM if you need the website, not on Playstore. Cost 4 or 5 bucks. It runs real time so you can make changes on the fly, effortlessly.
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They are from the Galaxy Store. These aren't the solutions you need. Package Disabler will work with Android 9 and 10, no problem. PM if you need the website, not on Playstore. Cost 4 or 5 bucks. It runs real time so you can make changes on the fly, effortlessly.
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Looked up that app, Package Disabler and I thought wow . . . it works and does NOT need root. So that's a nice trick. The hard part is figuring out what to touch and what to stay away from. They warn you. The bricking is up to you. Thanks goodness there's Odin.
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Looked up that app, Package Disabler and I thought wow . . . it works and does NOT need root. So that's a nice trick. The hard part is figuring out what to touch and what to stay away from. They warn you. The bricking is up to you. Thanks goodness there's Odin.
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It can't brick a phone. I never had to do a factory reset to purge it in over 3 years. However it does run in safe mode as it has full Administrator privileges.
Hello, I just bought myself a Samsung Galaxy Tab s8+ a few days ago. I tested genshin impact on it and gets really underwhelming performance (high sub 30 fps with bad frame pacing, and low reaching only 40 fps)
I then try to test with 3dmark and I got this score on the screenshot below. Am I scammed or something? I bought this from official retailers. Any help would be appreaciated.
Natura1011 said:
Hello, I just bought myself a Samsung Galaxy Tab s8+ a few days ago. I tested genshin impact on it and gets really underwhelming performance (high sub 30 fps with bad frame pacing, and low reaching only 40 fps)
I then try to test with 3dmark and I got this score on the screenshot below. Am I scammed or something? I bought this from official retailers. Any help would be appreaciated.
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Here is link to official posting on mobile performance. Hope this helps.
Genshin Impact Game DB
Get a quick overview on Android smartphones to run Genshin Impact on. All listed data were provided by users and our staff.
www.gensh.in
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Here is link to official posting on mobile performance. Hope this helps.
Genshin Impact Game DB
Get a quick overview on Android smartphones to run Genshin Impact on. All listed data were provided by users and our staff.
www.gensh.in
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I'm using samsung galaxy tab s8+ which host snapdragon 8 gen 1 and Adreno 730 GPU. It's not listed in that link. And it should've performed better specwise.
Natura1011 said:
I'm using samsung galaxy tab s8+ which host snapdragon 8 gen 1 and Adreno 730 GPU. It's not listed in that link. And it should've performed better specwise.
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Yes it should be better. i heard they under-clocked the tab cuz there'd no vertical room for a heat sink. maybe something with that ?
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Yes it should be better. i heard they under-clocked the tab cuz there'd no vertical room for a heat sink. maybe something with that ?
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I think it's a problem with my unit specifically. I tried doing a 3dmark test with other demo unit in stores and it gets 8000+ scores. I'm not sure if my unit has problem hardware/software-wise
I WANT to believe it's because i still didn't flashed a newer firmware (it's on some from november 2021, 3 months before official release - it even got the s7 stock wallpapers), so it's driver related. But yeah, mine is lacking in horsepower also. It skipped some of the antutu's bench tests, while Geekbench gave it 1250 single core to 2400 multicore. Every single test i put it through (benchs, device validation etc) says it is an sm-x806, though.
One other thing is also the ram pool it has. Mine's only 6,9 available (1,2 reserved for something), android system using up to 5,5 all the time. So, actually i have less ram in it than in my s21 (up to 3gb), wich is on latest update available.
Does the app SD Maid help ? I am a minority user in that I am rooted and so I get the tricks of SD Maid Pro. Sadly, now I am a freezing maniac ! In GeekBench 5, I got a score of : 1223 and 3443. I am on Android 13 now.
( on Amazon, I got the 906N )
Another way to get the tablet to run better is to remove bloatware. Below is a list I came across on the web.
Of course, all praise go to the hard work the web page maker did... ( Helen ? )
[Complete] List of Samsung Bloatware Safe to Remove
What’s bloatware? What are the lists of Samsung bloatware safe to remove? How to create your own Samsung bloatware list? Read answers here!
www.minitool.com
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and Google, 'universal android debloater samsung' - no root required !
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Proceed with extreme caution. Back up. I take no responsibility if you lock up your tab . . .
Pedro Moreira said:
I WANT to believe it's because i still didn't flashed a newer firmware (it's on some from november 2021, 3 months before official release - it even got the s7 stock wallpapers), so it's driver related. But yeah, mine is lacking in horsepower also. It skipped some of the antutu's bench tests, while Geekbench gave it 1250 single core to 2400 multicore. Every single test i put it through (benchs, device validation etc) says it is an sm-x806, though.
One other thing is also the ram pool it has. Mine's only 6,9 available (1,2 reserved for something), android system using up to 5,5 all the time. So, actually i have less ram in it than in my s21 (up to 3gb), wich is on latest update available.
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I got about the same score from Antutu and Geekbench. Also has around 3-4 gigs of ram available at any given time with no apps running. My model is SM-X806B.
I've been thinking if it's driver related but I'm not sure what to do. Also thinking about Overclocking it but it's brand new and I don't want to get it rooted yet. It's really frustating how low the performance is set by Samsung. I was expecting some beast of a tablet but this sucks.
old_fart said:
Another way to get the tablet to run better is to remove bloatware. Below is a list I came across on the web.
Of course, all praise go to the hard work the web page maker did... ( Helen ? )
[Complete] List of Samsung Bloatware Safe to Remove
What’s bloatware? What are the lists of Samsung bloatware safe to remove? How to create your own Samsung bloatware list? Read answers here!
www.minitool.com
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and Google, 'universal android debloater samsung' - no root required !
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Proceed with extreme caution. Back up. I take no responsibility if you lock up your tab . . .
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They listed pretty much all samsung apps in that link. I don't think all of them is "safe to remove bloatware". Got to be careful.
Pedro Moreira said:
I WANT to believe it's because i still didn't flashed a newer firmware (it's on some from november 2021, 3 months before official release - it even got the s7 stock wallpapers), so it's driver related. But yeah, mine is lacking in horsepower also. It skipped some of the antutu's bench tests, while Geekbench gave it 1250 single core to 2400 multicore. Every single test i put it through (benchs, device validation etc) says it is an sm-x806, though.
One other thing is also the ram pool it has. Mine's only 6,9 available (1,2 reserved for something), android system using up to 5,5 all the time. So, actually i have less ram in it than in my s21 (up to 3gb), wich is on latest update available.
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Just an update:
I finnaly grow a pair and did the update. Too expensive to be ****ing around. Glad my country is part of yhe OXM code, so it disnt break anything when i changed from EUX to ZTO, even though it remain as EUX.
Performance had a great jump. TAB rarely display stutters, even on power saving settings. Before then, it was choppy as f. Memory pool also has widen, as up to 4gb to use. Benchs, though realtime experience had significantly improve during tests, did not improve that much on numbers. Antutu gave me 650000, while geekbench gave 1210/2860, still below the average. Could be because I live in Brazil, and they must have concerns about temperature.
All of the errors I was dealing with also got resolved. No more red flashing borders when upside down, no more update errors, nomore sudden crash/glyphs when playing games.
No cooling solution whatsoever.
Thermal MOD (hardware) Galaxy TAB S8 Ultra
This might not be useful for many, but if anyone wondered why their TAB performs "bad" under heavy usage (gaming, benchmarks, etc...) S8 series (all of them) have almost next to none existent "cooling" solution. Here is the S8 Ultra for example...
forum.xda-developers.com
Most of us will never fix it. Samsung F'd us BIG time? So return your SCAMSUNG TAB ASAP. I wish I can.
Never ever gonna buy Samsung again after this one.
And battery drain is insane, especially on idle....
old_fart said:
Another way to get the tablet to run better is to remove bloatware. Below is a list I came across on the web.
Of course, all praise go to the hard work the web page maker did... ( Helen ? )
[Complete] List of Samsung Bloatware Safe to Remove
What’s bloatware? What are the lists of Samsung bloatware safe to remove? How to create your own Samsung bloatware list? Read answers here!
www.minitool.com
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and Google, 'universal android debloater samsung' - no root required !
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Proceed with extreme caution. Back up. I take no responsibility if you lock up your tab . . .
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Samsung F'd jus and no amount of debloating will fix it. After paying 900e for S8+ i have to debloat their #@[email protected] software. F Scamsung.
Chineese company's will F them back for sure on their income side. and they deserve it.
I uninstalled game booster, game tools and game launcher and disabled game optimization services with adb Commands then turned ram plus off and disabled or put into deep sleep unwanted apps and it made a big difference in game play and battery life for my s8 11 inch.
Lolorider64 said:
I uninstalled game booster, game tools and game launcher and disabled game optimization services with adb Commands then turned ram plus off and disabled or put into deep sleep unwanted apps and it made a big difference in game play and battery life for my s8 11 inch.
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Can anyone post which services those are? I already have Debloated, but i want to check if i missed anything..
Thanks,
sosimple said:
Can anyone post which services those are? I already have Debloated, but i want to check if i missed anything..
Thanks,
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Game booster, game launcher, game optimization services have to be uninstalled/disabled with adb Commands. From what I found you need uninstall game booster, game launcher and game tools with adb then disable game optimization services with adb then it will stay disabled even after reboot but try check just search game booster or game launcher in settings and if nothing pops up then it's uninstall or to can go to system apps and look for game optimization services and see if it says disabled.
Lolorider64 said:
Posilňovač hier, spúšťač hier a služby optimalizácie hier je potrebné odinštalovať/zakázať pomocou príkazov adb. Z toho, čo som zistil, potrebujete odinštalovať game booster, game launcher a herné nástroje pomocou adb, potom deaktivovať služby optimalizácie hier pomocou adb, potom to zostane deaktivované aj po reštarte, ale skúste v nastaveniach zaškrtnúť iba vyhľadať game booster alebo game launcher a ak sa nič nezobrazí, potom je to odinštalovanie alebo môžete prejsť do systémových aplikácií a vyhľadať služby optimalizácie hier a zistiť, či sa nepíše, že je zakázané.
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jI deactivated the game services through Ladb and I have even worse results. I need someone to advise me what command to give to reactivate the services again.. I will be very grateful
Lolorider64 said:
I uninstalled game booster, game tools and game launcher and disabled game optimization services with adb Commands then turned ram plus off and disabled or put into deep sleep unwanted apps and it made a big difference in game play and battery life for my s8 11 inch.
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I'm interested to see a before and after result of your findings.
Marianaa123 said:
jI deactivated the game services through Ladb and I have even worse results. I need someone to advise me what command to give to reactivate the services again.. I will be very grateful
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To re-enable Samsung Game Services on a Samsung Galaxy Tab S8, you can follow these steps:
Open the Samsung Galaxy Store app on your Galaxy Tab S8.
Search for "Game Launcher" in the search bar.
Find and select "Game Launcher" from the search results.
If the Game Launcher app is already installed, tap on "Open" to launch it. If it is not installed, tap on "Install" to download and install it.
Once Game Launcher is open, tap on the three vertical dots (More options) in the top right corner of the screen.
From the drop-down menu, select "Settings".
In the Game Launcher settings, look for the option "Samsung Game Services" or "Enable Game Services" and toggle it to the "On" position.
If prompted, follow any additional on-screen instructions to complete the process.
I did a factory reset to re enable Game services and the game I play is playing better now. I'm running galaxy app booster 1-2 times a week and wiping cache partition and repair apps 1-2 times a month. I also am using thermal guardian set to max(slider all the way to the right) with all additional settings off. In game booster make sure auto manage performance is off and I'm using the labs setting for alternate game performance. In device settings I have all additional settings off and disabled or put to deep sleep stuff like Bixby, are doodle , etc. I also have ram plus off