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[Q] insert brick type here...i need your help guys

Okay, obviously I was rooted. Everything was great. I went into CWM, when I was going to flash a simple script mod (which every phone can use) well I accidently clicked off into my SGII files (which of course was stupid of me) and it installed fluxii kernel for SGH-i777. (intern flashes a custom recovery for the xx tweaker that that particular kernel uses. Of course, I didn't even realize I had done it, just went to Reboot Now. Now, I've got no Download mode, no bootloader, no anything, just blackness, I feel as if there is a simple key process or way to somehow get it fixed so I can flash it back via ODIN, but with all the confusing button combo's and ideas I've found so far, and all the ' types of bricks ' I dont know the best route about doing this, whomever helps me get my phone unbricked/unsoftbricked/superbricked/cute bricked, which ever version (assuming its possible) I swear on my life I will mail them a 32GB HP touchpad.
(I have 3 and only need 2) so, I hope this in some way will get me an answer soon.
I cantbelieve I pulled a n00b. No more not moving data from SD cards for me ever again...
Thanks, and the sooner the better.
Mail me here, or gmail me ( [email protected]) or heck text me if you want (i have my SGII still) just message me priavtely for the number. Thanks you guys you're the best.

kobos311 said:
Okay, obviously I was rooted. Everything was great. I went into CWM, when I was going to flash a simple script mod (which every phone can use) well I accidently clicked off into my SGII files (which of course was stupid of me) and it installed fluxii kernel for SGH-i777. (intern flashes a custom recovery for the xx tweaker that that particular kernel uses. Of course, I didn't even realize I had done it, just went to Reboot Now. Now, I've got no Download mode, no bootloader, no anything, just blackness, I feel as if there is a simple key process or way to somehow get it fixed so I can flash it back via ODIN, but with all the confusing button combo's and ideas I've found so far, and all the ' types of bricks ' I dont know the best route about doing this, whomever helps me get my phone unbricked/unsoftbricked/superbricked/cute bricked, which ever version (assuming its possible) I swear on my life I will mail them a 32GB HP touchpad.
(I have 3 and only need 2) so, I hope this in some way will get me an answer soon.
I cantbelieve I pulled a n00b. No more not moving data from SD cards for me ever again...
Thanks, and the sooner the better.
Mail me here, or gmail me ( [email protected]) or heck text me if you want (i have my SGII still) just message me priavtely for the number. Thanks you guys you're the best.
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I would rccomend trying to use Odin to see if it recognizes your phone? You may have to get a USB jig to force it into download mode and you may be able to save it that way I'm pretty sure a jig would work
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Yeah thats Kinda my thinking as well unfortunately, Why the hell cant they sell them at like, I derno, the "rooted developer" store? hell Samsung should just include them in the box with as easy as root is. lmao What I don't get, is why the hell someone can't make a ' USB JIG ' out of their computer, or you know, something to tickle that little ports happy spot lmfao

kobos311 said:
Yeah thats Kinda my thinking as well unfortunately, Why the hell cant they sell them at like, I derno, the "rooted developer" store? hell Samsung should just include them in the box with as easy as root is. lmao What I don't get, is why the hell someone can't make a ' USB JIG ' out of their computer, or you know, something to tickle that little ports happy spot lmfao
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Yeah, I'm mean there pretty cheap online and if you have the buts you can make your own since its only a 300k resistor. I think that's your only way out tbh :/
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I just wanted this issue brought to attention to all the people from other forum sites ive tried to try their methods clearly, Marshmellows and Chicken dumplins wouldnt work, so if we could figure it out here, itd be nice to have it in a smart people zone. seriously someone f'n said, for me to stick my finger where the socket meets the charger... i was like, "consider me "BRICKED"
why cant they sell these damn jigs on craigslist for immediate satisfaction? oh well some idiot just offered to trade me one of my 3 SGII's I own for a note and 50 bucks haha "I WANT IT UNROOTED AND NORMAL" was his email. hahaha

kobos311 said:
I just wanted this issue brought to attention to all the people from other forum sites ive tried to try their methods clearly, Marshmellows and Chicken dumplins wouldnt work, so if we could figure it out here, itd be nice to have it in a smart people zone. seriously someone f'n said, for me to stick my finger where the socket meets the charger... i was like, "consider me "BRICKED"
why cant they sell these damn jigs on craigslist for immediate satisfaction? oh well some idiot just offered to trade me one of my 3 SGII's I own for a note and 50 bucks haha "I WANT IT UNROOTED AND NORMAL" was his email. hahaha
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Lol, how much would you be willing to sell your touch pad for by the way? And eBay is probably a good bet for a jig. Its just a pain nearly all of them are sent from china so you have to wait like 2 weeks :/
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IN TRUE NERD FASHION: any devices you'd be willing to part with for one or two of them, I have 10 16gb the day I remember telling mom "MOM LET ME BORROW 2000 dollars I swear it will pay off take it out of my savings anything" haha...
but cash isnt whats important to me, just technology really..idk, hell they're going for ridiculous onebay right now. and err, lets just say mine dont run CM9, or MIUI, hell I have my own recovery, Webos is all i knew for a while. I was always scared to post here, for the number of n00b post haters. I just stopped caring about those haha. I also have 2 Palm pre 2's running Android via a glitch in the Launcher/Wallpaper, and a Pre 3 Running ICS hybrided with basically the apps running in the 'recent windows ' version of ICS....
I really dunno man right now is I NEED TO GET THIS NOTE FIXED ASAP anyone know like a local place to go get it fixed temporarily they've gone to before. hell XDA should buy like shipments of them. we're the only ones that buy the damn things anyway.

also one more idea i found is this: idk if it just doesnt make sense to me, but if someone can make sense of it for me, and tell me its worth a shot...by all means..explain. http://samsunggalaxyreview2.blogspot.com/2011/07/one-click-unbrick-tool-for-samsung.html

kobos311 said:
also one more idea i found is this: idk if it just doesnt make sense to me, but if someone can make sense of it for me, and tell me its worth a shot...by all means..explain. http://samsunggalaxyreview2.blogspot.com/2011/07/one-click-unbrick-tool-for-samsung.html
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It might be worth a go man. I would reccomend having it plugged into a computer and keep trying to turn it on even if the screen doesn't turn on and see if Odin picks anything up. Its not going to hurt your device anymore :/ you could always go to a hardware store and buy a mini USB and a 300k resistor and trying to make a jig yourself if that unbrick doesn't work (which I don't think it will)
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Well what do I have to lose? Potentially (with better instructions of course and a noob friendly UI) if it works on my note, ill try it on my original galaxy...who knows few tweaks and maybe all these folks suffering from bricked Notes/SII/SIII's will have an easy way to fix it. (hey guys, just let me be optimistic here.. at least unti somebody else comes up with a bright idea haha
Quote of the day:
"I feel the same way about apple as I do herpes.

First good news (ill just edit this post from now on), I see alot of really weird things going on in my Device Manager, or well things that weren't there prior...time for phase 1.

kobos311 said:
First good news (ill just edit this post from now on), I see alot of really weird things going on in my Device Manager, or well things that weren't there prior...time for phase 1.
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What have you done so far?
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Fixed. I'll write up a XDA guide, and no I didnt use that silly guide. I used a trick the stupid guy at samsung tech support told me about something on the back of the phone will write up in a bit.
it involves a paperclip, and a hidden compartment behind somewhere where most would never dare stick anything, its rather a hidden reset button or something I wouldnt recommend it to anyone however...if someone finds themself in a bind id gladly help, but its that way or shipping it back if done wrong basically I just got lucky.

so CLOSE THREAD PLEASE THANKS

Red brick with white cement pattern, I dig that type of brick
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kobos311 said:
Fixed. I'll write up a XDA guide, and no I didnt use that silly guide. I used a trick the stupid guy at samsung tech support told me about something on the back of the phone will write up in a bit.
it involves a paperclip, and a hidden compartment behind somewhere where most would never dare stick anything, its rather a hidden reset button or something I wouldnt recommend it to anyone however...if someone finds themself in a bind id gladly help, but its that way or shipping it back if done wrong basically I just got lucky.
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McGuyver type nice. That or prevert sticking things in dirty places
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New to rooting

I am new to rooting and have been wanting to root my ATT N900A but I honestly have no idea where to start or where to learn the basics. I have read a lot of the forums to try and learn most of it on my own but the lingo has been quite the challenge, some users say things I've never heard of and kind of already advanced more than what I have actually learned. Is there someone who can help me out with my rooting and learning about it all? Please and thank you

Floridaa said:
I am new to rooting and have been wanting to root my ATT N900A but I honestly have no idea where to start or where to learn the basics. I have read a lot of the forums to try and learn most of it on my own but the lingo has been quite the challenge, some users say things I've never heard of and kind of already advanced more than what I have actually learned. Is there someone who can help me out with my rooting and learning about it all? Please and thank you
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Did you honestly try a search here? I mean just looking down the list of threads I can count 5+ related to your question with answers. But let me humor you here. What version is your baseband? The last three letters. If they are MJ5 then Google Kingo Root and use it. If they are anything else then you will need to look for the Da la verga method.
To find your baseband go to settings, general, about device.

what is your purpose for rooting. I'm afraid you'll just brick your phone..

billaboy25 said:
what is your purpose for rooting. I'm afraid you'll just brick your phone..
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Exactly. Rooting for no purpose other than to be rooted (which won't do anything for you if that's the only reason you're doing it) is throwing your warranty away for no reason, even if you don't damage the phone.

Solarenemy68 said:
Did you honestly try a search here? I mean just looking down the list of threads I can count 5+ related to your question with answers. But let me humor you here. What version is your baseband? The last three letters. If they are ML5 then Google Kingo Root and use it. If they are anything else then you will need to look for the Da la verga method.
To find your baseband go to settings, general, about device.
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Rukbat said:
Exactly. Rooting for no purpose other than to be rooted (which won't do anything for you if that's the only reason you're doing it) is throwing your warranty away for no reason, even if you don't damage the phone.
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You can always reset the phone back to original factory settings (if you don't trip Knox Counter) and they will never know you rooted.

StormChaser83 said:
You can always reset the phone back to original factory settings (if you don't trip Knox Counter) and they will never know you rooted.
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So you root your phone for no reason other than to be able to say "I rooted my phone", then you unroot it.
Net result? Five minutes of your life that you'll never get back.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would anyone want to waste effort doing something that makes absolutely no difference once it's done? Is there some kind of thrill in having a rooted phone that I missed?

I also used Kingo. it was a no brainer...

Rukbat said:
So you root your phone for no reason other than to be able to say "I rooted my phone", then you unroot it.
Net result? Five minutes of your life that you'll never get back.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would anyone want to waste effort doing something that makes absolutely no difference once it's done? Is there some kind of thrill in having a rooted phone that I missed?
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It takes like 5 minutes. You press the Root button then go do something for 5 minutes. No time wasted. . You do 2 things at once. . LOL

I guess I still don't get it. Press the button, the phone is rooted. You never install rooted apps so ... what's the point? Ir is that the point, that there is no point?

Rukbat said:
I guess I still don't get it. Press the button, the phone is rooted. You never install rooted apps so ... what's the point? Ir is that the point, that there is no point?
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I'm not rooted now. Honestly, i do see your point. . I'm sure people root just to say they are rooted. lol. . . When i got my Galaxy S3 last february I rooted. I didn't know what to do with it. . . (I have a Galaxy Note 3 now). I rooted my GN3 a while back just to uninstall the bloatware, but then my phone started screwing up, so i had to reset it. So now most of those bloatware apps are just disabled.

Floridaa said:
I am new to rooting and have been wanting to root my ATT N900A but I honestly have no idea where to start or where to learn the basics. I have read a lot of the forums to try and learn most of it on my own but the lingo has been quite the challenge, some users say things I've never heard of and kind of already advanced more than what I have actually learned. Is there someone who can help me out with my rooting and learning about it all? Please and thank you
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Clearly you are looking for someone to do it for you, no effort on your part.
Look what happens when I copy paste your question into xda search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root my ATT N900A

StormChaser83 said:
I'm not rooted now. Honestly, i do see your point. . I'm sure people root just to say they are rooted. lol. . . When i got my Galaxy S3 last february I rooted. I didn't know what to do with it. . . (I have a Galaxy Note 3 now). I rooted my GN3 a while back just to uninstall the bloatware, but then my phone started screwing up, so i had to reset it. So now most of those bloatware apps are just disabled.
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I rooted my Galaxy Precedent (the hard way, with adb), just to be able to feel as if I was in a Linux environment, not having everything fenced off from me. I must have also put about a dozen different ROMs on that thing. Tried lots of iffy apps too. But for $40? Not much of a loss if I could never get it working again. (It still works, I just don't use Sprint any more. And for what a used Precedent is worth, I'd rather keep it.)
My N3? Tried Kingo, just to see if it worked. Undid it a few minutes later. I can't think of anything I need root for. Not even TiB. I have all my apps backed up, and my data isn't anything like "deathless prose", so if I lose track of my Solitaire game, I won't lose any sleep. Documents, scans, pictures - all backed up off the phone.
My only "deviation from the norm" is that this phone WILL NOT get updated to 4.4x until the OTA's been out for a few months, and no one screams that it ate their phone. I don't want to be like the people with S3s who jumped on 4.3, only to have expensive mp3 players. And if KitKat turns out to be as thrilling </sarcasm> as I've heard, I won't even bother then. About the only thing I can't do with the N3 is watch live TV, and that's my current cab;e company's fault - I could before I moved and had to change companies.
But root? Not until something comes along that I really need, and that needs root. (There's even a non-root replacement for wireshark.)

Can you downgrade and root S5 active G870A?

I have looked over several pages and have not come across anything with good solid information or facts. I have a ATT S5 G870A (S5 Active). It has Android 5.0 on it. I have several questions actually.
1. Can you root this device on 5.0? I cant find anything on an active version. If so, can you point me to some good simplified layman terms instructions?
2. If not, how do I downgrade it.
After getting to a state where it is possible to root it. What do i need to complete that task? I am looking at getting Twisted Lolipop ROM on this device (IF IT IS POSSIBLE). That is the goal anyway. For some reason that ROM sticks out to me after reading about all of them. galaxys5root.com/sm-g900f-galaxy-s5-custom-roms/twi5ted-lollipop-rom-for-galaxy-s5/[/url]
I have watched the video on that site and it doesn't give out hardly any information. I am not even 100% sure it will work on an active on ATT. I dont want to trust some kid on youtube trying to tell me how to flash my phone without knowing if it is correct or not.
I am terribly sorry in advance if it has been asked before, but there are several discussions here, and lots have been updated somewhere in the hundreds of pages of information contained within them.
Thank you in advance,
Josh.

If u have bootloader 0c5 u can down grade then root the active.
If u have bootloader 0f2, 0f3 no u can not. There's no root for those yet.
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I assume it's the last 3 of the loader #'s. ? Mine says 0f3 . That stinks. Phone is a year old and still can't root it. I'll get a new phone before a root comes out...lol. Thanks for any information, or if there is another way I'd surely appreciate it. Got a super nice phone and its slower than christmas. Too much junk and fluffy stuff installed from factory I guess.

jrouse5 said:
I assume it's the last 3 of the loader #'s. ? Mine says 0f3 . That stinks. Phone is a year old and still can't root it. I'll get a new phone before a root comes out...lol. Thanks for any information, or if there is another way I'd surely appreciate it. Got a super nice phone and its slower than christmas. Too much junk and fluffy stuff installed from factory I guess.
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Since u can't root get. Package Disabler Pro. No root need to freeze are remove any apps.
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Thank you. Is there a good way to back up the entire phone that is pretty easy in case I disable something that shouldn't be? I enabled the system processes in developing menu and thy wrestling are a lot of things running and lots of red at the top (assuming that is for the processors). And I don't have a whole phone full of games installed. Facebook, messenger, snap chat, a weather app. Then a few other random apps like a steak n shake app. No games at all.

Help prove to my mother that it's extremely hard to brick a Nexus

So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!

zfrnz said:
So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.

zfrnz said:
So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too

NLBeev said:
Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
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If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though

gee2012 said:
Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
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Lol... My grandfather's phone actually is rooted. He's got sprint though and they're better when it comes to fixing rooting.

Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.

zfrnz said:
If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
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No, be consequent, the phone is yours or not. You can not change the idea that there risks. Because there is a risk.
You could change the strategy. The risk is not the rooting process. The risk is the person that roots the phone. Show/tell her that you know all the howto's. You must give the impression you are an expert.

toledodj said:
Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
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Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier

zfrnz said:
Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it

toledodj said:
I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
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This page has mixed answers... One guy said it worked but another got bootloop. But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened

zfrnz said:
Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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Last remark. Arguments won't change the idea's of your mother. Tell her you should be very happy when your phone is rooted. Because of the customizing possibilities, like the use of layers.
Happiness is a state of mind and you will remember many many years later the fun of using a smartphone that was rooted. Thanks to your mother.

first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".

zfrnz said:
This page has mixed answers... But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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simms22 said:
first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof

It's possible her concern isn't about bricking but data security risks?
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.

Not that I'm condoning defying your mom's explicit wishes, but she's not even going to know if you root it. Better to ask forgiveness after than permission before...

If you learn to do everything manually and not use a toolkit then it is quite hard to brick a Nexus device. BUT, I've not rooted my last two (N5 and this N6) as there's no point these days.
Bricking will occur if you try and take a short cut or don't follow instructions.

simms22 said:
both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
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I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit

toledodj said:
I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.

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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
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Mine is always unlocked also

Is the S5 still a good phone to get in 2016?

About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance

S5

The S5 is still a very capable phone. The display is top notch. It would really depend on what carrier you are with though. I know the att variant cant be rooted or unlocked currently and verizon has theirs locked down too, but as long as it comes with lollipop (5.x.x) software the verizon variant can be unlocked all the way to the bootloader.
as far as i know they are the only two providers who secure the s5 like fort knox. I could be wrong though. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted. I dont think you'll find a better phone in the same price range.

S5 is still a great phone. Only issues ive had with it over the 28 mos that ive had it is the low light blurryness with the camera and the fact that you have to swipe your thump across the fingerprint scanner. Having to do that nowadays kinda makes it feel dated. Other than those 2 issues, its a great phone!!

I just got an S5 to replace my S4 and I love it. I'm on AT&T and got the Tmobile version for the unlocked bootloader. I would totally get this phone again.

Its a great phone!

Green Bastard said:
The S5 is still a very capable phone. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted.
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I have a s5 900v like you (verizon) & got it 12 days ago. . When did you root yours? I *had* lollipop until last Thursday after accidentally pressing the screen through my pocket....which proceded to accept the update I was avoiding. Now I have marshmellow and I'm not happy ???*
Been fishing through XDA and haven't found anything about rooting s5 on mm. Anyone have something to share with me? Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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youdoofus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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I tried the root method (link within the thread u posted) about a week ago & had problems. To make a long story short, check out my remarks on pages 1-2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/to-root-t3330514/page2
I'm just looking to root my g900v s5. I don't want to mess around with the bootloader (not yet anyway). I just want root before Marshmellow or verizon release another update to patch the *open* vulnerability.
If the dumb MM update didn't happen I would've had time to find lollipop root. I never had a problem w/ my s4 where the screen would allow a touch through pants or shirt pocket. Thought these things were sensitive to the touch of skin not clothing?? Cause of my problem was losing my s4 over July 4th weekend that I rooted w/ towelroot in 05/2014 (that I just paid off in May over 24 months w/ verizon)

Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot

youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is.
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youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks

Lane W. said:
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
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CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny! But oneclick and towel doesnt surprise me, but kingroot has been the "if nothing else works" as of late. I have a root program on my computer that i cant recall the name of off hand, and it does look like a malware program, but its been the go-to when all else fails. Ill look at my desktop icons and remind myself what it is when i get home. Its some chinese .exe is that helps in the interim
found it, its called "v root"
it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html

tiguy99 said:
About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).

dieselboy said:
I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p

youdoofus said:
I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,

dieselboy said:
Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text I've just never had any trouble with flashing stuff on a Samsung since the epic touch 4g. Htcs have that goofy bootloader unlock that has to be done via htcdev.com. The newest Samsung I'd be willing to use is the S5 anyways because of the removable battery, external storage and waterproofing. The s6 sucks and the s7 has that dumb encrypted storage that made root hard for a while. Samsung's are far from perfect, and I'd likely be looking at a OnePlus or a Huawei in the future if I was shopping for a phone, but for those looking at either the second hand market, refurbs or a new one available for stupid cheap, S5s are great phones still.
Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!

youdoofus said:
CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny!
found it, its called "v root". it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
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Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks

Lane W. said:
Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
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Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/

youdoofus said:
Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
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Fantastic, thanks. Just to be sure, I want to use the one click root APK the part at the top under the first description, correct? The second section, as far as I can tell, is for iroot via a PC?
Is Titanium compatible with this method of root? What about recovery? Does Vroot have its own method or could I use TWRP or SafeStrap? Have you had any complications with the modem or WiFi using your device with Vroot?
Thank you!!

youdoofus said:
I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text
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Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
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I said that I wasn't arguing for that very reason - I didn't want my second post to come across in a negative way. I could see that your post had come across in a good light and wanted to keep it that way
I am from UK but living in Australia at the moment. I last heard that Chris Evans has gone from the new Top Gear - thank F... for that, he's the biggest pleb going and watching the first couple of episodes were extremely painful and cringy. A number of things Chris said in the first show were somewhat not completely correct and I eventually switched it off.
Really looking forward to watching Clarkson and the gang - they're entertaining. Their top gear was more like a sit-com, which is what it's grown into and it works pretty well. Anyone in the family can watch it even if they know nothing about cars - I'll have to google for it because I don't know any details about their new show.