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[Q] Boot loop - Still possible to backup internal sd?

Hi guys!
Here's my situation:
- P990, tonyp's PA 2.6 v.13, old bootloader, Kowalski kernel exp. version 12x
- Phone started boot looping (no obvious cause)
- Tried deleting cache. Didn't help.
- Tried flashing the same ROM from external SD. Didn't help.
- Tried restoring working backup (boot and system only, not complete restore) from CWM. Didn't help.
So then I guess I have to do a complete factory reset, but that means I'll lose everything on my internal SD card, right? I want to make a copy first so that I can keep my files. My nandroid backups are only 2.x GB, so I guess they don't include everything on the internal SD card.
I tried to connect the phone to my laptop, but nothing happened, so I deleted/reinstalled drivers from the LG website. That didn't work, but then I found this post which got me a little further. It said the installation was successful, but when I was in CWM, the disks (int. and ext. SD) wasn't being recognized. When I rebooted recovery (from CWM) or just rebooted the device, the computer recognized the discs and started installing four drivers, but as the phone either gets into CWM or just boot loops, it seems like Windows isn't able to finalize the installation of the drivers. This results in the SD cards not being functional in Windows. I can't even see disk labels or storage used/available.
Does someone have an idea of how I might be able to access the internal SD from Windows? Either by fixing the driver issue, or some other method?
I guess I have to fix this USB issue to be able to try to use adb pull to get all the stuff off the internal memory as well, right? Or is the connection between phone and computer not required to be "complete" to be able to do that? I do not remember for sure, but I believe I had turned on USB debugging before all this mess started. However, I have never used adb before.
I'm massively thankful for any help!

Sammy321 said:
Hi guys!
Here's my situation:
- P990, tonyp's PA 2.6 v.13, old bootloader, Kowalski kernel exp. version 12x
- Phone started boot looping (no obvious cause)
- Tried deleting cache. Didn't help.
- Tried flashing the same ROM from external SD. Didn't help.
- Tried restoring working backup (boot and system only, not complete restore) from CWM. Didn't help.
So then I guess I have to do a complete factory reset, but that means I'll lose everything on my internal SD card, right? I want to make a copy first so that I can keep my files. My nandroid backups are only 2.x GB, so I guess they don't include everything on the internal SD card.
I tried to connect the phone to my laptop, but nothing happened, so I deleted/reinstalled drivers from the LG website. That didn't work, but then I found this post which got me a little further. It said the installation was successful, but when I was in CWM, the disks (int. and ext. SD) wasn't being recognized. When I rebooted recovery (from CWM) or just rebooted the device, the computer recognized the discs and started installing four drivers, but as the phone either gets into CWM or just boot loops, it seems like Windows isn't able to finalize the installation of the drivers. This results in the SD cards not being functional in Windows. I can't even see disk labels or storage used/available.
Does someone have an idea of how I might be able to access the internal SD from Windows? Either by fixing the driver issue, or some other method?
I guess I have to fix this USB issue to be able to try to use adb pull to get all the stuff off the internal memory as well, right? Or is the connection between phone and computer not required to be "complete" to be able to do that? I do not remember for sure, but I believe I had turned on USB debugging before all this mess started. However, I have never used adb before.
I'm massively thankful for any help!
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Can you tell me version of the recovery you use?
Did you tried wipe dalvik-cache? (Advance-->Wipe dalvik-cache)

bitdomo said:
Can you tell me version of the recovery you use?
Did you tried wipe dalvik-cache? (Advance-->Wipe dalvik-cache)
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I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery v6.0.3.1.
Yes, I tried wiping dalvik cache as well, but that didn't fix it either.
Are there some other ways of getting out of the bootloop? I don't mind flashing stock rom or whatever else, as long as I can recover my internal SD.

Sammy321 said:
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery v6.0.3.1.
Yes, I tried wiping dalvik cache as well, but that didn't fix it either.
Are there some other ways of getting out of the bootloop? I don't mind flashing stock rom or whatever else, as long as I can recover my internal SD.
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Download AIO-toolkit from the developement forum. Install itt, and install nvflash drivers with it.
At the main screen select option 2, and then select option 2 again. Follow teh instructions on the screen, and select TWRP 2.5.0.0 to be installed, or cwm 5.0.2.8, both have working mass storage.
(6.0.3.1 has broken massstorage and adb interface. I think you installed cwm 6.0.3.1 through rom manager, if it that true you are on old bootloader.)

bitdomo said:
(6.0.3.1 has broken massstorage and adb interface.
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Aha, that explains it!
I installed CWM 5.0.2.8 and I got a little further than before. When I mount USB storage in CWM, my external SD card shows up on my computer, but not my internal SD card. What can be the reason for this? Could the card be corrupted, or are there other ways of getting the internal SD to appear?
I tried mounting everything I could mount from the Mounts and storage menu in CWM, but the external SD was still the only thing that showed up on my laptop.
Thank you so much for helping with this!

Sammy321 said:
Aha, that explains it!
I installed CWM 5.0.2.8 and I got a little further than before. When I mount USB storage in CWM, my external SD card shows up on my computer, but not my internal SD card. What can be the reason for this? Could the card be corrupted, or are there other ways of getting the internal SD to appear?
I tried mounting everything I could mount from the Mounts and storage menu in CWM, but the external SD was still the only thing that showed up on my laptop.
Thank you so much for helping with this!
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Can you try twrp 2.5.0.0?

bitdomo said:
Can you try twrp 2.5.0.0?
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I've been trying, but I'm not even able to boot into recovery with TWRP installed.
Any other ideas? :fingers-crossed:

Sammy321 said:
I've been trying, but I'm not even able to boot into recovery with TWRP installed.
Any other ideas? :fingers-crossed:
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Do a factory reset with a working cwm. You will lose all your installed apps and their data, but it will keep data on internal sdcard. After the factory reset you can boot up into andorid

bitdomo said:
Do a factory reset with a working cwm. You will lose all your installed apps and their data, but it will keep data on internal sdcard. After the factory reset you can boot up into andorid
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YES! I thought factory reset would delete the internal SD, so I didn't even consider that, but it worked like a charm! Thank you so much for caring and helping! You just made my week! :highfive:

[Q] Cleaning up the system?

I have flashed a bunch of different ROMs lately. I always wipe cache, dalvik and do a factory reset but maybe it may no longer be enough. Currently, my phone is rooted with Cocore and CWM. I am thinking about going to CM11. Last time I tried that, I noticed some stuff during setup was overlooked because it already seemed to be there. So I think some bits and pieces are left in the phone. Therefore, I want to "scrub" it before trying another ROM (thinking CM11 this time). I know the CM kernel comes with it.
questions:
1) Can I just mount and reformat system, data, cache and preload to clear everything out before flashing a new ROM?
2) Will the kernel be protected (in this case is CoCore) after reformating or should I worry about it?
3) When I flash the original stock 4.1.2 from Odin, does it completely reformat everything when it loads onto the system?

corvus.corax said:
I have flashed a bunch of different ROMs lately. I always wipe cache, dalvik and do a factory reset but maybe it may no longer be enough. Currently, my phone is rooted with Cocore and CWM. I am thinking about going to CM11. Last time I tried that, I noticed some stuff during setup was overlooked because it already seemed to be there. So I think some bits and pieces are left in the phone. Therefore, I want to "scrub" it before trying another ROM (thinking CM11 this time). I know the CM kernel comes with it.
questions:
1) Can I just mount and reformat system, data, cache and preload to clear everything out before flashing a new ROM?
2) Will the kernel be protected (in this case is CoCore) after reformating or should I worry about it?
3) When I flash the original stock 4.1.2 from Odin, does it completely reformat everything when it loads onto the system?
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Some information are stored on internal SD memory. Maybe it was there. Try to delete it. Backup SD to PC, format it - do factory reset and see if it is happening again.

shut_down said:
Some information are stored on internal SD memory. Maybe it was there. Try to delete it. Backup SD to PC, format it - do factory reset and see if it is happening again.
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If I backup the internal SD card to the PC and then restore after a reformat, won't the offending bits come back again?

corvus.corax said:
If I backup the internal SD card to the PC and then restore after a reformat, won't the offending bits come back again?
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I did not tell you to restore it. Keep it on PC, in case you need some of data from there. Maybe you erase some picture that you need or something like that. And not to blame me later. :fingers-crossed:

Deleted internal storage in TWRP. Need Help.

I deleted the internal storage on my phone in twrp. What can I do to get everything back?

I think you're boned. Unless there is a way to pull the deleted data using software on a PC.

Fastboot factory IMG. Or use rom tool kit to flash a factory image. There is an option in twrp to connect to the PC where you can transfer files. You could always load a rom that way and flash a zip through twrp

As said above, you can still install a ROM. Or flash a factory image etc. But the data (pictures, videos, music etc) is gone. It was formatted and not likely able to be recovered. I assumed that's what you meant, when you asked to "Get everything back"?

My sad sad self went and did this. Still in TWRP. I've mounted system, data, and cache. I see the Nexus 6 in Windows 7 and see Internal Storage; it's empty. I cannot create new folders or copy files (ROMs, GApps, zips, etc) into Internal Storage without getting "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected." I cannot for the life of me find another way to push files to the phone.. Any help is greatly appreciated!
- b
EDIT: Is it still possible for me to follow Mr. Hoax's Tut through bootloader? (I'm really nervous to try and reboot into BL) It says I don't have an OS (obviously) when I get to the confirm reboot of TWRP...

boruko said:
My sad sad self went and did this. Still in TWRP. I've mounted system, data, and cache. I see the Nexus 6 in Windows 7 and see Internal Storage; it's empty. I cannot create new folders or copy files (ROMs, GApps, zips, etc) into Internal Storage without getting "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected." I cannot for the life of me find another way to push files to the phone.. Any help is greatly appreciated!
- b
EDIT: Is it still possible for me to follow Mr. Hoax's Tut through bootloader? (I'm really nervous to try and reboot into BL) It says I don't have an OS (obviously) when I get to the confirm reboot of TWRP...
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try formatting user data first

simms22 said:
try formatting user data first
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You're referring to TWRP, correct? Wipe->Format Data? I have done this but am unsure how to proceed... I still cannot seem to get files to copy onto Internal Storage...
EDIT: I got a ROM, GApps and SU to stick to Storage!!! Gonna try to install now.
SUCCESSSSSSSSSS!!!! WOOOOOO! Totally gonna try to update to 5.1 again haha Thank you thank you thank you @simms22!

Well, i have the same problem now.. unable to copy anything to the internal storage.
TWRP is opening fine though.. what should i do??

Mystique_Myth said:
Well, i have the same problem now.. unable to copy anything to the internal storage.
TWRP is opening fine though.. what should i do??
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simms22 said:
try formatting user data first
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Thanks!
This thread and this trick
try formatting user data first
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Saved my...
Nexus 6
Tip: it will not allow to format user data right after deletion!
You will need to restart recovery and only after that it will format the user data!

Nook hd plus, Cm 10.2 stopped working. It keeps crashing and restarting.

I got nook hd+ and used cm version 10.2 something for a while.
The device keeps crashing and restarting like crazy.
1 out of 10 times, it launches, but before I do anything, it crashes. Hell.
It has been crashing and restarting quite often these days, but since last night, all it does is crashing and restarting.
To make matters worse, I tried to format the device and install cm again. It did not work.
I made booting SD card and chose 'wipe data/ factory reset'. And nook said it wiped /data /cache data wipe complete etc. However, files were still there in internal storage.
On top of that, I had to try 4 times to install newest cm-11. It aborted.
Next, I tried to installnookjdplus factory2.2.0 . It had error. (status 6) to ne specific.
So, I tried newest cwm recovery. It installed, but nook still crashed.
I persevered and tried to install cm 11. It installed, but still crash and restart.
Hell. I literally spent whole day doing this. I am confused and frustrated and angry and experiencing a few other negative emotions English language dows not have in words.
Please, some advice.

Venrun said:
I got nook hd+ and used cm version 10.2 something for a while.
The device keeps crashing and restarting like crazy.
1 out of 10 times, it launches, but before I do anything, it crashes. Hell.
It has been crashing and restarting quite often these days, but since last night, all it does is crashing and restarting.
To make matters worse, I tried to format the device and install cm again. It did not work.
I made booting SD card and chose 'wipe data/ factory reset'. And nook said it wiped /data /cache data wipe complete etc. However, files were still there in internal storage.
On top of that, I had to try 4 times to install newest cm-11. It aborted.
Next, I tried to installnookjdplus factory2.2.0 . It had error. (status 6) to ne specific.
So, I tried newest cwm recovery. It installed, but nook still crashed.
I persevered and tried to install cm 11. It installed, but still crash and restart.
Hell. I literally spent whole day doing this. I am confused and frustrated and angry and experiencing a few other negative emotions English language dows not have in words.
Please, some advice.
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CM10.x, CM11, and stock ROM need different versions of CWM recovery.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679899 for info/pointers on flashing CM11.
To go back to stock ROM, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613(item #6).
When switching between CM10, CM11, and stock ROM, you need to do "wipe /data & factory reset".
If none of the above helps the your problem might be due to an unruly app or hardware related.

digixmax said:
CM10.x, CM11, and stock ROM need different versions of CWM recovery.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679899 for info/pointers on flashing CM11.
To go back to stock ROM, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613(item #6).
When switching between CM10, CM11, and stock ROM, you need to do "wipe /data & factory reset".
If none of the above helps the your problem might be due to an unruly app or hardware related.
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Ok. At least I got my biggest problem now.
I think my roblem is wipe data/factory reset does not do job it is supposed to do.
I still see folders and files in internal memory after factory reset. I think that is why install aborts and crashes even after successful install.

I think my problem is that wipe data/factory reset does not do its job
It gives me message it is formatting data cache and stuff. And last day they gave me data wipe complete. But the problem is, in internal memory, I can still see old folders and old files.
I think he should be gone if it is formatted. Where do I get the meaning of factory reset wrong?
Its not what is wrong with me. And how can I make factory reset work
And second question is that I tried to install B&N original operating system from cwm-based recovery. I tried a few different versions of
nookHDplus-factory-2.1.1-plain-stock.zip
However it always fail to install. Install aborted for some reason.

Thanks. It seem helpful.
digixmax said:
CM10.x, CM11, and stock ROM need different versions of CWM recovery.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679899 for info/pointers on flashing CM11.
To go back to stock ROM, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613(item #6).
When switching between CM10, CM11, and stock ROM, you need to do "wipe /data & factory reset".
If none of the above helps the your problem might be due to an unruly app or hardware related.
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Thanks a lot for your advice
Going back to stock Rom 6 explains error message and aborting of install.
However the problem is where do I get CWM V 60036 or eariler?
Googling does not work.9

Venrun said:
Thanks a lot for your advice
Going back to stock Rom 6 explains error message and aborting of install.
However the problem is where do I get CWM V 60036 or eariler?
Googling does not work.9
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You can get v6036 on that same thread digimax referenced above (my CWM thread linked in my signature). And a data wipe does not wipe your media files. To do that, go to mounts and storage and select wipe "data and datamedia".
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thanks
leapinlar said:
You can get v6036 on that same thread digimax referenced above (my CWM thread linked in my signature). And a data wipe does not wipe your media files. To do that, go to mounts and storage and select wipe "data and datamedia".
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trying it. hope it works.

did not work
for about deleting internal data, I went to 'mounts and storage'. used 'format /sdcard' and 'format/ data and/ data/media (/sdcard), but still has stuff in internal memory.
and to my surprise , I have been using CWM-6028. so far. I thought its name was 'NookHDplus-bootable'.
hell. stupid me.
Anyhow, CWM-6028 has been giving me troule
so, I would try other versions.
So far, I have done
1. made boot sd by burning image.
2. copy 'NookHDplus-factory-2.1.0-plain-stock' files and other versions.
3. Insert SD in device and boot CWM.
4. choose zip from sdcard.
5. install factory plain stock.
then I get message 'Failed to retouch 'system/lib/libemoji.so' (WTF is libemoji? and it is always this same file.)
E: error in sdard/nookHDplus-factort-2.2.1-plain-stock.zip(status7)
Installation aborted.
hell. And I tried every factory zip.
Am I doing something wrong?

Failed tp retouch '/system/lib/libemoji' is error message I get
Everytime I tried to install factory stock.
I tried every version of stock files. And I tried all CWM. And even tried TWRP, but it is always the same message what the hell is that emoji?
And what can I do with it?
What frustrates me the most is the fact that it installed 99% in a minute without trouble and stays there 410 minutes until it fails to install. It's driving me crazy

Does CM makes Factory reset by power button and home button does not work either.
Because I am getting message factory reset failed.
If CM is not the reason for it, well, something is wrong. Very wrong.
I am suspecting Internal memory corrupted lr something.
I should seriously consider throwing it away now.

Venrun said:
Because I am getting message factory reset failed.
If CM is not the reason for it, well, something is wrong. Very wrong.
I am suspecting Internal memory corrupted lr something.
I should seriously consider throwing it away now.
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It is possible you have a bricked emmc. When bricked it looks like it is writing but is really read only and nothing takes. If you still have media files after a successful format data and datamedia then it is bricked. Probably best to get rid of it. You can buy a refurbished unit very cheaply these days.
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Venrun said:
Because I am getting message factory reset failed.
If CM is not the reason for it, well, something is wrong. Very wrong.
I am suspecting Internal memory corrupted lr something.
I should seriously consider throwing it away now.
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Assuming that your EMMC is shot, you can try running off SD card this no-emmc version of CM11 ROM: https://iamafanof.wordpress.com/201...-4-4-4-for-bricked-no-emmc-nook-hd-04nov2014/. It's best to use a card with fast randomized block read/write (which is what Class 4 cards are typically best at).

Thanks guys. By the way, what is emmc?
Is it part of CM software?
Does not sounds like hardware.
If I had factory resetted a day earlier, I would not have had problems.
Well. That is the way it is.

I finally kind of got nook working. I am running it on SD card now.
I got to thank you guys for your good advices.
Problem is that this ecmm free booting shrinks storage space.
No matter what is size of SD card, Internal storage is 900mb and SD card got 100mb. (I mean virtual Internal storage the file made in SD card) Not enough space to hold a movie.
I am happier to have tab working, but also wish to use full space of my SD.
At least I wish I can have a few Gs of storage.

Venrun said:
I got to thank you guys for your good advices.
Problem is that this ecmm free booting shrinks storage space.
No matter what is size of SD card, Internal storage is 900mb and SD card got 100mb. (I mean virtual Internal storage the file made in SD card) Not enough space to hold a movie.
I am happier to have tab working, but also wish to use full space of my SD.
At least I wish I can have a few Gs of storage.
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Right after burning the ROM image to SDcard, it should be possible to use a disk partitioning tool such as MiniTool Partition Wizard to examine the SDcard ROM image's partitions and resize the /data partition to fill up the un-allocated space.

digixmax said:
Right after burning the ROM image to SDcard, it should be possible to use a disk partitioning tool such as MiniTool Partition Wizard to examine the SDcard ROM image's partitions and resize the /data partition to fill up the un-allocated space.
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Thanks a lot. That sounds I can do it.

how you did it
Venrun said:
I got to thank you guys for your good advices.
Problem is that this ecmm free booting shrinks storage space.
No matter what is size of SD card, Internal storage is 900mb and SD card got 100mb. (I mean virtual Internal storage the file made in SD card) Not enough space to hold a movie.
I am happier to have tab working, but also wish to use full space of my SD.
At least I wish I can have a few Gs of storage.
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Please tell how you made SD card work.
thanks.

rkgarg2000 said:
Please tell how you made SD card work.
thanks.
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49007593&postcount=84 for some pointers on how to create a CM SD card with customized partition sizing for HD+. Although it was written for CM11, you should be able to adapt it for CM10.2 by using the appropriate ROM and GApps zip files corresponding to CM10.2.

Please confirm if my problem has any other solution
my NOOK HD+ I have CMW 10.2.1 with 6.0.4.6 recovery. Nook went to loop while booting. Now I can go to recovery and able to boot SD recovery CMW 6.0.2.8. But issue is:-
1. For any update even for Stock ROM it gives status 7 error.
2. With system recovery 6.0.4.6 when I try factory reset the TAB reboot same happen when i try to format DATA. While factory reset and DATA format happens with 6.0.2.8 position remains same.
3. When I try to make backup on internal storage both with 6.0.4.6 (TAB recovery) or 6.0.2.8 (From SD card) it makes boot,recovery and system image but give error as failed to backup /DATA.
4. I have done every thing right from various and latest ROM's ( error Status 7), Formatting boot,system but 6.0.4.6 on NOOK is intact and is in loop.
Please tell How I can over come this STATUS 7 error or DATA backup error.
thanks.
digixmax said:
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49007593&postcount=84 for some pointers on how to create a CM SD card with customized partition sizing for HD+. Although it was written for CM11, you should be able to adapt it for CM10.2 by using the appropriate ROM and GApps zip files corresponding to CM10.2.
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rkgarg2000 said:
my NOOK HD+ I have CMW 10.2.1 with 6.0.4.6 recovery. Nook went to loop while booting.
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Does it boot-loop to recovery?
If so, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55582281&postcount=1459 for potential causes and solutions.
Now I can go to recovery and able to boot SD recovery CMW 6.0.2.8. But issue is:-
1. For any update even for Stock ROM it gives status 7 error.
2. With system recovery 6.0.4.6 when I try factory reset the TAB reboot same happen when i try to format DATA. While factory reset and DATA format happens with 6.0.2.8 position remains same.
3. When I try to make backup on internal storage both with 6.0.4.6 (TAB recovery) or 6.0.2.8 (From SD card) it makes boot,recovery and system image but give error as failed to backup /DATA.
4. I have done every thing right from various and latest ROM's ( error Status 7), Formatting boot,system but 6.0.4.6 on NOOK is intact and is in loop.
Please tell How I can over come this STATUS 7 error or DATA backup error.
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CWM v6.0.4.6 is not compatible with CM10.x, you need to flash back to the CWM version you previously used.

TWRP 3 for droid turbo

OK other phone I had has external SD card. When I wiped data it wiped internal SD completely. Since turbo has no external SD, will it wipe completely or just Android file data and preserve other files on internal SD. If it does wipe internal SD completely how would you flash ROM? Thanks for any advice.

newbe1droidx said:
OK other phone I had has external SD card. When I wiped data it wiped internal SD completely. Since turbo has no external SD, will it wipe completely or just Android file data and preserve other files on internal SD. If it does wipe internal SD completely how would you flash ROM? Thanks for any advice.
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That depends on what kind of wipe you do. If you do a factory reset in TWRP, it will not wipe your user data (downloads, music, everything else in /data/media/0 or /sdcard). However, if you select Format Data, or you pick Internal Storage in the advanced wipe menu, all of your user data will be wiped. Usually, a factory reset is all you need after flashing roms, so you don't have to worry about losing photos/music/etc.

Great thanks for the fast reply. OK other phone was sgs3. Sometimes when flashing and then running new ROM it seemed the settings stayed the same as previous ROM. Devs would have you format data for clean install. How would that work on this droid turbo?

I also wiped data and it wiped my internal storage. I thought maybe I had wiped internal storage accidentally or did something else wrong but this leads me to believe I didn't do anything wrong. Back to the previous version that worked for us? (I think it was 2.8.7)
Edit: I just read that choosing to format data will also format internal storage, but a factory reset which "wipes data" does not touch the internal storage. This is a little confusing if you aren't familiar with how everything is partitioned. Is internal storage actually on the data partition?
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If I have the ROM and gapps on internal SD and format data I loose ROM and gapps right? Then how would you install ROM? Second if I delete Android file on internal SD would that make it a clean install? But other files would still remain. Just trying to understand so I don't brick or can't get ROM on. Thanks

SpyderPride said:
I also wiped data and it wiped my internal storage. I thought maybe I had wiped internal storage accidentally or did something else wrong but this leads me to believe I didn't do anything wrong. Back to the previous version that worked for us? (I think it was 2.8.7)
Edit: I just read that choosing to format data will also format internal storage, but a factory reset which "wipes data" does not touch the internal storage. This is a little confusing if you aren't familiar with how everything is partitioned. Is internal storage actually on the data partition?
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Yes, the internal storage is on the data partition. When you do a factory reset with TWRP and you read the script as it executes, it says something like "wiping /data without wiping /data/media." Doing the factory reset wipes everything on /data except /data/media, which is where your user data lives. So what gets wiped is all of the user apps and the data generated by the system apps, but your user data is preserved.
It makes sense that wiping data would wipe everything. I think having separate boxes for data and internal storage is to account for someone who might install an older version of android that is partitioned differently. I can't remember when the change happened, but at one point, the user data and app data were kept on separate partitions. I think that user data lived on /sdcard and apps lived on /data. That's why you see the /sdcard folder as a symlink when you go exploring with a root browser. It's symlinked to /data/media/0 to maintain backwards compatibility with older apps that are expecting /sdcard to exist.

Thanks st33v. My last phone had a /sdcard partition separate from /data so I think that is where the misperception came from. It also had /sdcard2, which was an actual SD card.
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Yep my thinking too. You guys are great! Cleared it up.

If you wipe all your files simply use twrp and connect it to the PC. You can drag the files over for flashing.

mrkhigh said:
If you wipe all your files simply use twrp and connect it to the PC. You can drag the files over for flashing.
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Awesome I was wondering if you could do that...