Hello, I just got my Sony Xperia Z1S a couple of weeks ago and I'm on T-Mobile's Jump Program. I understand how the program works but I'm wondering if I root the phone and put a custom recovery on it will they say I can't jump to a new device when I'm eligible?
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Bill Idol said:
Hello, I just got my Sony Xperia Z1S a couple of weeks ago and I'm on T-Mobile's Jump Program. I understand how the program works but I'm wondering if I root the phone and put a custom recovery on it will they say I can't jump to a new device when I'm eligible?
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no you can't.
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no you can't.
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So if I unroot my device or just stay rooted but keep the phone looking stock I can't jump it for another device????
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Bill Idol said:
So if I unroot my device or just stay rooted but keep the phone looking stock I can't jump it for another device????
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They can easy find out if you are rooted or not by seeing the boot loader its binary change for good if you root.
Only some devices have binary resetter.
so think and take you next step.
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That is incorrect.
The boot loader on a Z1s can not be unlocked.
You can always unroot Xperia devices by flashing a stock ftf and no sign of routing is left.
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gregbradley said:
That is incorrect.
The boot loader on a Z1s can not be unlocked.
You can always unroot Xperia devices by flashing a stock ftf and no sign of routing is left.
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without unlocking boot loader how can we root ?
You follow the one of the several guides in the development section.
Unlocking the bootloader is not the only way to root and since a lot of Xperia devices can not unlock the boot there are lots of ways to root with out touching the boot loader
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You follow the one of the several guides in the development section.
Unlocking the bootloader is not the only way to root and since a lot of Xperia devices can not unlock the boot there are lots of ways to root with out touching the boot loader
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But I had to unlock boot loader to root my moto e
why?
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But I had to unlock boot loader to root my moto e
why?
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Unlocked bootloader is always rootable.
Locked on other hand is sometimes HARD to root.
So if you can't root locked bl, it's easier to make tutorial to root with unlocked.
Since z1s can't unlock bl, it's mean it is locked, he rooted that way.
If he unroot, or flash stock rom, no trace of root is left behind.
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But I had to unlock boot loader to root my moto e
why?
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That is only one way to root, and always works, if you are allowed to unlock the boot
But it is not often the only way or the best way or even possible (as some devices can not unlock the boot)
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That is only one way to root, and always works, if you are allowed to unlock the boot
But it is not often the only way or the best way or even possible (as some devices can not unlock the boot)
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I wish I could have rooted my moto e without unlocking boot loader
warranty would have been saved.
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You follow the one of the several guides in the development section.
Unlocking the bootloader is not the only way to root and since a lot of Xperia devices can not unlock the boot there are lots of ways to root with out touching the boot loader
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Yup. I am rooted but my bootloader is still locked. The only other device I had where I was rooted but my bootloader locked down tight was my Motorola Droid X. But still was able to flash custom Roms through Bootstrap recovery.
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I wish I could have rooted my moto e without unlocking boot loader
warranty would have been saved.
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But its always, to me, nice to have the boot loader unlocked because you can do a lot more in the hacking sense with no worries. All of my other devices that have the BL unlocked are all easy to save if you some how bricked it. No need for rsd lite / sbf your Moto device. Plus all of my devices where I unlocked the BL, I had long after the warranty expired.
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Bill Idol said:
But its always, to me, nice to have the boot loader unlocked because you can do a lot more in the hacking sense with no worries. All of my other devices that have the BL unlocked are all easy to save if you some how bricked it. No need for rsd lite / sbf your Moto device. Plus all of my devices where I unlocked the BL, I had long after the warranty expired.
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ya unlocking gives full access to user.
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I have xperia z coming to me Tuesday from Vodafone on bill pay. I just wanted to know if these will have bootloader locked does anyone know.
I'm coming from gs2 and really want to root my xperia and flash some roms again
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locked
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Will it be a lot of hardship to get it unlocked?
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Can not unlock the boot loader but u can root it, best thing is sell it when get it as new (dont open it) then buy a sim free one from phones 4 u
Mine is vodafone as well mate, bootloader can be unlocked. I've left mine locked as root is available. Didn't want to lose BE etc.
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How can it be unlocked if its locked?
How did you root it locked? Also what's BE. I'm new to Sony devices lol
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bravia engine, u can root it without unlocking the boot loader but on yours the boot loader will be locked,
type in *#*#service#*#* then look service info then configuration look at bottom will say if it can be unlocked
Is BE a big loss do you notice it gone?
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i got mine from vodafone and out of the box the bootloader unlock allowed value was yes, however after flashing to uk generic, then rooting it has changed to no, i think this happened during root.
I'm sure I've read on here that it should go back to yes if you unroot and go back to stock.
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does it work with another mobile operator? for example, will xperia z vodafone be working with russian mobile operators?
thx!
Should work anywhere but the uk, its only locked to the uk not the rest of the world
what is the difference between locked and not locked bootloader? what does it change?
i always had htc phones new to sony.
Hey guys, i just rooted my phone and was looking forward to putting the new cyanogenmod rom on my phone, until i found out att has to ruin everything and wont let the bootloader be unlocked. I was looking around for a workaround and some places said it might be possible to do it in recovery mode with CWM..can anyone tell me if this is possible? Is it even possible to do with a locked bootloader? If anyone knows how to do this for the Xperia TL (lt30at) please let me know! Step by step would be great since im new to this. Thanks!!
No its not possible for now.
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No its not possible for now.
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not even if its done in recovery mode? if not when would a workaround be available?
It's not possible.
No one give you an eta of when it will be possible either
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Hey guys, i just rooted my phone and was looking forward to putting the new cyanogenmod rom on my phone, until i found out att has to ruin everything and wont let the bootloader be unlocked. I was looking around for a workaround and some places said it might be possible to do it in recovery mode with CWM..can anyone tell me if this is possible? Is it even possible to do with a locked bootloader? If anyone knows how to do this for the Xperia TL (lt30at) please let me know! Step by step would be great since im new to this. Thanks!!
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Unless you have a unlocked bootloader, you cant. Flash an Xperia T firmware to remove all that att bloatware
and If we ever had are bootloader unlocked, we can just flash CM10.1 and it will work.
Man everyone is so nice on here. But in response to that until AT&T allows it nothing that anyone can do about the bootloader. At least it's rooted and you can remove all the crap that was preloaded with the phone. With a few other extra perks of having a rooted phone, the stock OS isn't really all that bad.....
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Erica Law said:
No its not possible for now.
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AndroidHoneyComb said:
Unless you have a unlocked bootloader, you cant. Flash an Xperia T firmware to remove all that att bloatware
and If we ever had are bootloader unlocked, we can just flash CM10.1 and it will work.
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If I had a "Not For Sale" AT&T branded Sony Xperia TL and its bootloader is unlocked. Will this help anybody? I wonder how I could flash CM10.1 on it then.I have CWM 6.0.3.0 installed on it but technically that CWM is for 'locked bootloaders' even though my bootloader isn't locked.
If the boot loader is unlocked just flash the cm10 . Zip in recovery
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glitchsys said:
If I had a "Not For Sale" AT&T branded Sony Xperia TL and its bootloader is unlocked. Will this help anybody? I wonder how I could flash CM10.1 on it then.I have CWM 6.0.3.0 installed on it but technically that CWM is for 'locked bootloaders' even though my bootloader isn't locked.
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use xperia T rom most dev support t more than the tl but they can work on both & cwm is for both locked and unlocked BL
I know that the bootloaders are locked, but can you unlock it after you get root?
I know that they're working on root exploits, and I helped test somethings today for the VZW version.
Would something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker work or something similiar be made for it?
If you can have root access without unlocking the boot loader that would be beneficial. Means your warranty is still valid for me I'm screwed as my boot loader is unlocked
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but can we flash roms without unlocked bootloader?
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but can we flash roms without unlocked bootloader?
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Not without some sort of boot strap. Like safe strap or boot menu.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
Is anyone working on an unofficial bootloader unlock/lock so we wouldn't lose our warranty?
flashallthetime said:
If you can have root access without unlocking the boot loader that would be beneficial. Means your warranty is still valid for me I'm screwed as my boot loader is unlocked
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How did you unlock it?
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Bill Idol said:
How did you unlock it?
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I have the rogers gsm variant which is allows me to use Moro's website to unlock my boot loader but I had to kiss my warranty goodbye
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flashallthetime said:
I have the rogers gsm variant which is allows me to use Moro's website to unlock my boot loader but I had to kiss my warranty goodbye
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Ok cool, thanks brudda. I have the Dev Edition for Verizon so I guess I'm gonna have to go to the Moto website too.
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Bill Idol said:
Ok cool, thanks brudda. I have the Dev Edition for Verizon so I guess I'm gonna have to go to the Moto website too.
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What I would like to know is if the developer edition still maintains warranty after unlocking the boot loader?
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flashallthetime said:
What I would like to know is if the developer edition still maintains warranty after unlocking the boot loader?
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To my understanding is that No It doesn't. When you go to the Moto website and go to the unlock your bootloader area and then find your phone. Once you click on that it gives you the whole deal on what you are about to do is going to void your warranty. Go figure, they make a phone with the ability to unlock the boot loader for just that specific reason and they still void your warranty. Lol
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Are there even any roms to flash for the moto x?....
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bajasur said:
Are there even any roms to flash for the moto x?....
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It's a fairly new phone so hopefully we'll be seeing some roms soon.
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It maybe under development so u ll taste it soon...
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Well means that simply that I can forget oc or uv my device as like using cm in my device?
And the way flashing a kernel via fastboot won't work for us?
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Forget about unlocking the bootloader, its not possible. No over/under-clock for you, no CyanogenMod or other goodies.
All carrier branded phones are locked and almost impossible to unlock.
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Forget about unlocking the bootloader, its not possible. No over/under-clock for you, no CyanogenMod or other goodies.
All carrier branded phones are locked and almost impossible to unlock.
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No love for me
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Cruel world
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cachanilla86 said:
Forget about unlocking the bootloader, its not possible. No over/under-clock for you, no CyanogenMod or other goodies.
All carrier branded phones are locked and almost impossible to unlock.
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BTW.. Why cannot her over/under-clock the phone?
I have over/under clock with a locked BL. Ofcourse there is only somuch that you can and cant do. but still..
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Cruel world
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Only thing I can recommend is to get a generic device instead of a carrier one.
No use lamenting about it here.
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BTW.. Why cannot her over/under-clock the phone?
I have over/under clock with a locked BL. Ofcourse there is only somuch that you can and cant do. but still..
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How should overclock work, stock kernels are not able to be setted higher.
Under-clock is possible yes.
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i think so
i cant find any toos to unlock it,if u succeed,share with us pls
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Well means that simply that I can forget oc or uv my device as like using cm in my device?
And the way flashing a kernel via fastboot won't work for us?
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Some people say that rooting solves the problem (XZ only?), some say unlocking the sim works
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Rooting changes nothing, sadly
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is there chance to have -Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No - when my phone is from shop ? ( not from carrier, not branded)
I think that it's not the matter of branded/not branded etc. beacuse I've seen bootloader unlock allowed: yes after I rooted and installed CWM and TWRP; today I've reverted rooting via SPC and the bootloader unlock allowed is back on: no; so I think someone has to look through it to see if you can override it...
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I think that it's not the matter of branded/not branded etc. beacuse I've seen bootloader unlock allowed: yes after I rooted and installed CWM and TWRP; today I've reverted rooting via SPC and the bootloader unlock allowed is back on: no; so I think someone has to look through it to see if you can override it...
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I rooted and installed cwm/twrp but it's still saying No
Next i'll install generic C5303 firmware, as I am running on branded firmware! Have to do it tomorrow though because It's pretty late now
Nope
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Well means that simply that I can forget oc or uv my device as like using cm in my device?
And the way flashing a kernel via fastboot won't work for us?
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I doubt the Sony bootloader will be cracked any time soon as the Xperia T was never cracked and thats a much older device.
Unfortunately that means no custom kernels/CyanogenMod.
If you buy a factory unlocked device the bootloader will be unlockable/carrier branded devices may be locked and not unlock able.. Pretty simple really.
Sorry that I can't help much.
Un-lock Xpeia SP
If you Un-lock the Xperia SP for all Networks, does this make bootloader Unlock available?
If not, any Ideas why?
Been answered many times before.
raziel123 said:
If you Un-lock the Xperia SP for all Networks, does this make bootloader Unlock available?
If not, any Ideas why?
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Nope. SIM-UNLOCK is separate to bootloader unlock.
It just doesn't.
On some old xperia phones you could open sim and bootloader like xperia arc if you used test point method to unlock sim it unlocked boot loader as well.
2013 xperia models that don't have removable battery are no longer able to use test point so you can't unlock boot loader or sim.
To unlock sim you need code which you cab buy from internet.
To unlock bootloader you need to contact your airtime provider and see if they will help in unlocking bootloader again this needs code but not freely available.
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It means that you can unlock bootloader of your phone.
nlooooo said:
It means that you can unlock bootloader of your phone.
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I known but TL cannot unlock bootloader
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Why can't? It's jus another mobile device from Sony.
Because TL is a local device
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Almost 99% of TL bootloaders are not unlockable, but there are a few that can be unlocked for some reason . The configuration shows a 'yes' instead of a 'no'. Yet the people get through the unlocking procedure but are stuck because they can't get fastboot to work. It's almost like every TL has its fastboot disabled. Most TLs are AT&T.
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Can this TL be used as research to unlock the bootloaders of other TL's?
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bolillo said:
Can this TL be used as research to unlock the bootloaders of other TL's?
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I seriously doubt it. I wish it could be like here is it fastboot stuff..now you can unlock.. Cw am he unlock via flash tool?
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I wish I could unlock my bootloader on my old X10a on at&t, there has to be some way to do it. I just can't afford to brick my phone. Keeping lte seems to be the issue because how the bootloader is tied to the driver for the data radio somehow.
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I wish I could unlock my bootloader on my old X10a on at&t, there has to be some way to do it. I just can't afford to brick my phone. Keeping lte seems to be the issue because how the bootloader is tied to the driver for the data radio somehow.
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You can bootloader unlock it you just have to sim unlock it first, just use the page that they made to sim unlock phones and they should send you the code after that it's a matter of looking up the instructions ^^
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