My phone is rooted, unlocked, and S-OFF. I currently have Cyanogenmod installed but interested in going back to a Sense ROM. With previous phones I had to RUU and go through the rooting process again. Is there an easier way to go back to a Sense ROM without having to relock Bootloader, S-ON, then RUU?
DrZune said:
My phone is rooted, unlocked, and S-OFF. I currently have Cyanogenmod installed but interested in going back to a Sense ROM. With previous phones I had to RUU and go through the rooting process again. Is there an easier way to go back to a Sense ROM without having to relock Bootloader, S-ON, then RUU?
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Just download the Sense ROM, put it in the phone, go to TWRP, wipe everything but internal storage (might want to back things up first), and then flash the Sense ROM.
DrZune said:
My phone is rooted, unlocked, and S-OFF. I currently have Cyanogenmod installed but interested in going back to a Sense ROM. With previous phones I had to RUU and go through the rooting process again. Is there an easier way to go back to a Sense ROM without having to relock Bootloader, S-ON, then RUU?
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Since your s-off you can RUU without relocking bootloader.
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K. well, last night I was fiddling with my Vivid, STOCK ATT RUU ICS. However i have the Hboot unlocked and WCX recovery on it, I installed an unsigned mod to the rom, figured it would work, didn't back it up, Rom boots and phone functions, but I cannot get into settings. So whatever, is it easier to go ahead and do a new rom. Mind you i have S-ON and I can't find a screwdriver for my panel. Or can I go thru and reput the old ATT ICS RUU on the device, and how would i go about doing so.
Thanks for your help
simkid5614 said:
K. well, last night I was fiddling with my Vivid, STOCK ATT RUU ICS. However i have the Hboot unlocked and WCX recovery on it, I installed an unsigned mod to the rom, figured it would work, didn't back it up, Rom boots and phone functions, but I cannot get into settings. So whatever, is it easier to go ahead and do a new rom. Mind you i have S-ON and I can't find a screwdriver for my panel. Or can I go thru and reput the old ATT ICS RUU on the device, and how would i go about doing so.
Thanks for your help
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Have you tried reflashing the rom you were using?
can you boot into recovery?
My original rom boots, and everything works. Its the original update from AT&T, There really isnt a reflash unless I relock my HBOOT and do an RUU
simkid5614 said:
My original rom boots, and everything works. Its the original update from AT&T, There really isnt a reflash unless I relock my HBOOT and do an RUU
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If you are trying to go back to stock, relock your boot loader and run the RUU.
Is it necessary to s-off for installing custom roms? is it more safe to install the roms and kernels like we do in one-x?
thx
kami2k said:
Is it necessary to s-off for installing custom roms? is it more safe to install the roms and kernels like we do in one-x?
thx
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no its not necessary to S-OFF for installing custom ROMs, all you need is unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (TWRP/CWM):good:
and yes its totally safe to install roms and kernels without PC unlike on One X :laugh:
just flash 'em from recovery
The only benefit to S-OFF is you have a get out to get back to stock if you need to as you can flash one of the early RUUs that leaked. If HTC released RUUs to the public there would be no need to have S-OFF unless changing the splash screen is important to you
EddyOS said:
The only benefit to S-OFF is you have a get out to get back to stock if you need to as you can flash one of the early RUUs that leaked. If HTC released RUUs to the public there would be no need to have S-OFF unless changing the splash screen is important to you
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S-OFF is needed I think if you want to change HBOOT or downgrade OS versions for ex from 4.2.2 to 4.2.1, but how about correct CID and S-ON again?
EddyOS said:
The only benefit to S-OFF is you have a get out to get back to stock if you need to as you can flash one of the early RUUs that leaked. If HTC released RUUs to the public there would be no need to have S-OFF unless changing the splash screen is important to you
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So without S-OFF, I can't go back to stock ROM after installing custom ROM, right?
What about before installing a custom ROM, I create a backup with TWRP, can I use this backup to return to stock?
htcm7 said:
So without S-OFF, I can't go back to stock ROM after installing custom ROM, right?
What about before installing a custom ROM, I create a backup with TWRP, can I use this backup to return to stock?
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Yes. You would only need s-off if an ruu isn't available for your cid.
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If you have to ask then no....
S-OFF often introduces more problems then it's worth, especially when your not very experienced. It is a great tool to fix stuff when you really screw up, but it also allows a lot more control then most people can handle. If you so S-OFF then just remember to never S-ON unless you are already back 100% stock.
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Anyway if you are on the HBOOT 1.54 you wont be able to S-OFF...
htcm7 said:
So without S-OFF, I can't go back to stock ROM after installing custom ROM, right?
What about before installing a custom ROM, I create a backup with TWRP, can I use this backup to return to stock?
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You will be able to go back to stock if you can get hold of the original recovery as well as using your backup (for the love of God make a backup!!!). S-OFF means you can use one of the rare publicly-leaked RUUs to get back to stock
EddyOS said:
You will be able to go back to stock if you can get hold of the original recovery as well as using your backup (for the love of God make a backup!!!). S-OFF means you can use one of the rare publicly-leaked RUUs to get back to stock
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Sorry, not sure if i understand your information correctly.
What do you mean by 'get hold of the original recovery'?
If I backup stock ROM using TWRP and when I want to go back to stock, can I just restore my backup without a use of RUU?
htcm7 said:
Sorry, not sure if i understand your information correctly.
What do you mean by 'get hold of the original recovery'?
If I backup stock ROM using TWRP and when I want to go back to stock, can I just restore my backup without a use of RUU?
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Yes but you wouldn't be able to install OTA updates without the original recovery image
so only if u want ruu u do s-off otherwise no reason......
S-OFF allows you to flash an RUU earlier than your current build, e.g. I can flash the 1.28.401.7 on top of my current 2.24.401.8 whereas without S-OFF I wouldn't be able to
but if a new rom came with new built u can install that, who needs s-off then?
As I originally said, you don't need S-OFF if you have no need to go back to stock. If you need to send the phone to HTC for repair, having S-OFF means you can get the phone back to 100% stock and showing 'locked' as opposed to 'relocked' so they won't know you've ever done anything to the phone.
Otherwise you're taking a chance on HTC refusing the repair
I know, this question is asked a lot but I haven't been able to find any threads that reflect my exact situation so please hear me out!
I have a Developer Edition from launch and recently wanted to try out making it a Google Play Edition, so I did that.
Got S-Off, unlocked, rooted, flashed with the GPE RUU
However I find myself missing the camera features and now that 4.3 is out and with rumors of Sense 5.5 I'd like to go back to Sense
Here's where I'm confused: My custom recovery is gone since flashing the RUU and my bootloader now says that it's locked, even though it's a Developer Edition. I understand that the Google Play Edition doesn't come with an unlocked bootloader so my assumption is that the RUU simply resets it.
Here's my tl;dr version of the question: Do I need to go through the whole unlocking process to go back to sense? Can I just flash the RUU for the Developer Edition and automatically get my unlocked bootloader back? I didn't change the CID or any of that, all I did was flash the RUU.
Thanks for any help!!
Edit: The only thing truly confusing me is the fact that the bootloader got locked (or so that's what is says)
docdoc518 said:
I know, this question is asked a lot but I haven't been able to find any threads that reflect my exact situation so please hear me out!
I have a Developer Edition from launch and recently wanted to try out making it a Google Play Edition, so I did that.
Got S-Off, unlocked, rooted, flashed with the GPE RUU
However I find myself missing the camera features and now that 4.3 is out and with rumors of Sense 5.5 I'd like to go back to Sense
Here's where I'm confused: My custom recovery is gone since flashing the RUU and my bootloader now says that it's locked, even though it's a Developer Edition. I understand that the Google Play Edition doesn't come with an unlocked bootloader so my assumption is that the RUU simply resets it.
Here's my tl;dr version of the question: Do I need to go through the whole unlocking process to go back to sense? Can I just flash the RUU for the Developer Edition and automatically get my unlocked bootloader back? I didn't change the CID or any of that, all I did was flash the RUU.
Thanks for any help!!
Edit: The only thing truly confusing me is the fact that the bootloader got locked (or so that's what is says)
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Do you still have s-off? Then you can flash a dev edition RUU to get back sense.. If you want to keep s-off, flash a 4.1.2 RUU, get s-off and then ota update to the latest version.
When you flash the dev RUU, you'll get back your unlocked bootloader.
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n1234d said:
Do you still have s-off? Then you can flash a dev edition RUU to get back sense.. If you want to keep s-off, flash a 4.1.2 RUU, get s-off and then ota update to the latest version.
When you flash the dev RUU, you'll get back your unlocked bootloader.
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I do still have s-off, if I flash the latest RUU for dev edition will I lose s-off? Will I lose it if I flash any RUU?
Just curious at this point.
and THANK YOU!
docdoc518 said:
I do still have s-off, if I flash the latest RUU for dev edition will I lose s-off? Will I lose it if I flash any RUU?
Just curious at this point.
and THANK YOU!
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Some say you lose s-off, some say you don't..Afaik, an RUU is the safest way to go back to s-on. So to be on the safer side get the dev edition RUU for a 4.1.2 base and flash it.. If you lose s-off use Revone, then ota update to the latest 3.xx base. This will also update your hboot to 1.55, so make sure you're s-off before upgrading, as 1.55 cannot be s-offed yet.
Ps: Always use the thanks button
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so as long as the you are s-off, you can ruu to any version even if you are at 1.54 hboot?
n1234d said:
Some say you lose s-off, some say you don't..Afaik, an RUU is the safest way to go back to s-on. So to be on the safer side get the dev edition RUU for a 4.1.2 base and flash it.. If you lose s-off use Revone, then ota update to the latest 3.xx base. This will also update your hboot to 1.55, so make sure you're s-off before upgrading, as 1.55 cannot be s-offed yet.
Ps: Always use the thanks button
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You need to downgrade the HBOOT first following post #2 in the GPe conversion thread, and then flash the RUU. You will NOT lose S-OFF but you will lose all data on the phone so back it up first
EddyOS said:
You need to downgrade the HBOOT first following post #2 in the GPe conversion thread, and then flash the RUU. You will NOT lose S-OFF but you will lose all data on the phone so back it up first
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So considering I'm S-Off with the GPE RUU flashed, hboot 1.54
Will the S-Off allow me to directly flash the 4.3 RUU exe from htcdev? Will I maintain S-Off?
I'm just a bit confused now as you guys somewhat told me the opposite things, I appreciate the help though, getting great information
docdoc518 said:
So considering I'm S-Off with the GPE RUU flashed, hboot 1.54
Will the S-Off allow me to directly flash the 4.3 RUU exe from htcdev? Will I maintain S-Off?
I'm just a bit confused now as you guys somewhat told me the opposite things, I appreciate the help though, getting great information
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Follow what eddy says, he's the man @eddy, how does the hboot version make a difference??
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I'm not sure, here's what I found today...
I was running the leaked Sense 5.5 system dump and FW and wanted to go back to the 1.28.401.7 RUU so I could get the official update. Not an issue I thought as I'd just flash it and away I go as I'd done in the past when on hboot 1.54. It gave the 155 error about not being the right RUU even though I'm S-OFF. So I flashed the hboot in the GPe conversion thread #2 which put it back to 1.44 and the RUU worked fine so it must be something with the new 1.55 hboot that stops it working. I can't be certain but it worked for me
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I'm not sure, here's what I found today...
I was running the leaked Sense 5.5 system dump and FW and wanted to go back to the 1.28.401.7 RUU so I could get the official update. Not an issue I thought as I'd just flash it and away I go as I'd done in the past when on hboot 1.54. It gave the 155 error about not being the right RUU even though I'm S-OFF. So I flashed the hboot in the GPe conversion thread #2 which put it back to 1.44 and the RUU worked fine so it must be something with the new 1.55 hboot that stops it working. I can't be certain but it worked for me
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Hmm, I have hboot 1.54 not 1.55, so it sounds like I may be able to flash right to 4.3 with the .exe (at least from what I understand)
If it is incompatible it should just give me an error, correct?
I'm willing to take the extra steps but if they're not totally necessary then I'd much prefer to just go down the simpler path
Also, I've got CID BS_US001, what are the benefits of changing it to supercid? Would I get OTAs such as the Sense 5.5 faster?
Hopefully I'm not being a pain, I'm trying my best to learn.
You should be fine on that HBOOT, just try it and if it works it works! If not, you'll get an error and then you just following the second post in the GPe conversion thread
docdoc518 said:
Hmm, I have hboot 1.54 not 1.55, so it sounds like I may be able to flash right to 4.3 with the .exe (at least from what I understand)
If it is incompatible it should just give me an error, correct?
I'm willing to take the extra steps but if they're not totally necessary then I'd much prefer to just go down the simpler path
Also, I've got CID BS_US001, what are the benefits of changing it to supercid? Would I get OTAs such as the Sense 5.5 faster?
Hopefully I'm not being a pain, I'm trying my best to learn.
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Yep, go ahead and try, if it gives you an error, post back.
AFAIK, the dev edition BS_US001 gets OTAs the quickest, so you could keep it at that. SuperCID will allow you to flash any RUU/OTA, even of a different region/MID/CID
Nope, you're not being a pain We're all trying to learn and help here
Good news, I tried flashing the 4.3 RUU exe from HTCDev and it wouldn't work so I just took the longer route and flashed 1.44 hboot, flashed stock 4.1 RUU and then exe flashed up to 4.3
So I'm back on Sense and I'm happy, the only thing that was a slight setback was my bootloader, for some reason it did not unlock after flashing the Brightstar RUU so I went through the process on HTC dev and reflashed the 4.3 RUU to get back the flashlight and other apps lost through the unlocking process. Maybe I should have unlocked it through fastboot while on the GPE ROM? Not sure, but either way I'm back on Sense, bootloader unlocked and S-Off maintained so a huge huge THANK YOU from me.
Now I'm just waiting for Sense 5.5!
You guys are awesome :good:
docdoc518 said:
Good news, I tried flashing the 4.3 RUU exe from HTCDev and it wouldn't work so I just took the longer route and flashed 1.44 hboot, flashed stock 4.1 RUU and then exe flashed up to 4.3
So I'm back on Sense and I'm happy, the only thing that was a slight setback was my bootloader, for some reason it did not unlock after flashing the Brightstar RUU so I went through the process on HTC dev and reflashed the 4.3 RUU to get back the flashlight and other apps lost through the unlocking process. Maybe I should have unlocked it through fastboot while on the GPE ROM? Not sure, but either way I'm back on Sense, bootloader unlocked and S-Off maintained so a huge huge THANK YOU from me.
Now I'm just waiting for Sense 5.5!
You guys are awesome :good:
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All you had to do was flash the HBOOT in post #2 of the GPe conversion thread and then the 4.3 RUU and you would have had the same result
EddyOS said:
All you had to do was flash the HBOOT in post #2 of the GPe conversion thread and then the 4.3 RUU and you would have had the same result
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Newbie move I suppose :angel: haha
I've been rooting and flashing ROMs on my Androids since the G1/Dream believe it or not, but with every new phone/manufacturer there's always new terminology and steps to be taken so I feel like I start over every single time, which honestly isn't much of a bad thing, keeps things exciting (even though HTC made the G1 but that was what feels like ages ago now)
Thanks again guys, it's hard not to feel intimidated but it's been an extremely pleasant experience learning from you. This is why xda is by far the best site you can find for these things.
Cheers
I'm looking to sell my phone, and want to return it to stock. I currently have S-Off, GPE bootloader, custom recovery, and rom.
How do I go about returning it to stock? I know I have to flash an RUU, but which one. I have super cid, so I feel flashing the Dev edition ruu would be best so there's no bloatware. Where do I find that RUU? I cant tell the difference between the RUUs in the thread.
Additionally can I run the Dev RUU even though I have the GPE bootloader. Will it replace the bootloader with the Stock HTC one?
Any other steps I have to take to return the phone to stock?
thekalby said:
I'm looking to sell my phone, and want to return it to stock. I currently have S-Off, GPE bootloader, custom recovery, and rom.
How do I go about returning it to stock? I know I have to flash an RUU, but which one. I have super cid, so I feel flashing the Dev edition ruu would be best so there's no bloatware. Where do I find that RUU? I cant tell the difference between the RUUs in the thread.
Additionally can I run the Dev RUU even though I have the GPE bootloader. Will it replace the bootloader with the Stock HTC one?
Any other steps I have to take to return the phone to stock?
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here's all the steps you need and then some
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541082
I was originally on Sense 6 with Hboot 1.57, however I made a switch to GPE and flashed the ruu. Prior to this I changed my cid to supercid 1111111 so that I could do so. My Hboot has dropped to 1.54.
If I wish to return to Sense do I need to find my regional ruu, or as I have changed my cid I can pretty much wwe release? Also, do I need to change my Hboot to a lower version or leave as is?
While I'm on GPE, can I flash aosp roms such as cm, aokp etc?
Thank you.
maritimesbob said:
I was originally on Sense 6 with Hboot 1.57, however I made a switch to GPE and flashed the ruu. Prior to this I changed my cid to supercid 1111111 so that I could do so. My Hboot has dropped to 1.54.
If I wish to return to Sense do I need to find my regional ruu, or as I have changed my cid I can pretty much wwe release? Also, do I need to change my Hboot to a lower version or leave as is?
While I'm on GPE, can I flash aosp roms such as cm, aokp etc?
Thank you.
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1. The best way to get back your warranty (I think you want it) is to change CID to your stock CID and flash RUU for your CID.
2. Yoou don;t have to change Hboot coz RUU will do it for you so leave it as is.
3. Yes you can flash all Custom ROMS not only AOSP but it's good to have SuperCID.
No I'm not after keeping my warranty, just asking in case I wanted to switch back to Sense. I can flash a Sense rom over GPE? I wasn't aware that was possible. Figured I would need to go back to a Sense base via ruu.
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No I'm not after keeping my warranty, just asking in case I wanted to switch back to Sense. I can flash a Sense rom over GPE? I wasn't aware that was possible. Figured I would need to go back to a Sense base via ruu.
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Yes to go back to Sense you should flash a Sense RUU. And to be on the safe side you should use the earliest ruu you can downgrading to hboot 1.4.4. Then update the phone to the latest sense.
If you don't use an ruu to revert you risk running into problems later. And as your obviously s-off do not under any circumstance 're-lock your bootloader or go back to s-on. you will be stuck with a brick.
Ok, any tips to avoid accidently relocking the bootloader?
I was checking the GPE conversion thread, it simply states flashing the hboot 1.44 ruu, flash a stock ruu, pretty much it? Is there anything that could cause the bootloader to lock or for me to lose s-off? I paid sunshine for that, don't fancy losing it again!!
Assume, I'll have to root and flash custom recovery again? Yeah don't fancy going through the unlocking bootloader procedure again.
I simply want to go back to Sense, retain s-off and my unlocked bootloader so I can continue flashing custom roms and all that fun.
I have supercid 1111111 which means I can use a Euro ruu or any other? I was on Vodafone UK.
Thanks,
maritimesbob said:
Ok, any tips to avoid accidently relocking the bootloader?
I was checking the GPE conversion thread, it simply states flashing the hboot 1.44 ruu, flash a stock ruu, pretty much it? Is there anything that could cause the bootloader to lock or for me to lose s-off? I paid sunshine for that, don't fancy losing it again!!
Assume, I'll have to root and flash custom recovery again? Yeah don't fancy going through the unlocking bootloader procedure again.
I simply want to go back to Sense, retain s-off and my unlocked bootloader so I can continue flashing custom roms and all that fun.
I have supercid 1111111 which means I can use a Euro ruu or any other? I was on Vodafone UK.
Thanks,
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Well you'll be pleased to know that if you used Sunshine to s-off. Should you need it again you won't have to pay. You only pay once per device.
Locking the bootloader and switching s-on can only be done manually using specific fastboot commands. Or Very specific dd commands in recovery. It's not likely to happen accidentally.
I only warned you of it because some users made the mistake of thinking it was necessary. But if the phone ends up locked or s-on without a proper conversion they can become impossible to recover.
All done, quite painless really. Thanks for the help.