Will the Z3C work on VERIZON US?
dzeek said:
Will the Z3C work on VERIZON US?
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Verizon CDMA: No
Version LTE: Yes
The D5803 variant of the Sony Z3 Compact supports Verizon's LTE Band 4 and Band 13 networks
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Yes, the D5803 should work withT-mobile.
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
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stnly said:
Verizon CDMA: No
Version LTE: Yes
The D5803 variant of the Sony Z3 Compact supports Verizon's LTE Band 4 and Band 13 networks
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What does it mean to a regular user if CDMA doesn't work? If we get good 4G signal everywhere then it shouldn't matter, right?
iSecks said:
What does it mean to a regular user if CDMA doesn't work? If we get good 4G signal everywhere then it shouldn't matter, right?
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Usually, Verizon phones require CDMA for Voice and Text. I'm not sure if this phone supports Voice/Text over LTE or even if Verizon's LTE supports that yet. But if LTE Voice/Text is not supported then the device would be Data-Only, no calls or texts
Nuckin said:
Usually, Verizon phones require CDMA for Voice and Text. I'm not sure if this phone supports Voice/Text over LTE or even if Verizon's LTE supports that yet. But if LTE Voice/Text is not supported then the device would be Data-Only, no calls or texts
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VoLTE is supposed to be coming soon, I don't know if that includes texts. It should work with the Verizon messaging app, as it sends text over WiFi on devices that have it.
I really hope someone can get it working 100% on Verizon, I've got a Moto X and I don't want to upgrade my phone to something >5" but still want a really good specced phone when I do upgrade.
iSecks said:
VoLTE is supposed to be coming soon, I don't know if that includes texts. It should work with the Verizon messaging app, as it sends text over WiFi on devices that have it.
I really hope someone can get it working 100% on Verizon, I've got a Moto X and I don't want to upgrade my phone to something >5" but still want a really good specced phone when I do upgrade.
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I should clarify that by messaging I meant SMS. which will use CDMA. I glanced at the white paper for this phone and so no mention of CDMA so I'm willing to bet this phone will only work for AT&T and T-Mobile in the U.S. There is hope for a Z3w Compact since there is going to be a Z3 verizon compatible version. but we'll have to wait and see
And the original Moto-X is still a damn good phone, I wouldn't swap it out yet for probably another 6 months to a year at least
Nuckin said:
I should clarify that by messaging I meant SMS. which will use CDMA. I glanced at the white paper for this phone and so no mention of CDMA so I'm willing to bet this phone will only work for AT&T and T-Mobile in the U.S. There is hope for a Z3w Compact since there is going to be a Z3 verizon compatible version. but we'll have to wait and see
And the original Moto-X is still a damn good phone, I wouldn't swap it out yet for probably another 6 months to a year at least
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Yeah, I knew you meant SMS. There is an SMS app from Verizon called Messaging (I believe) that allows you to send SMS over data connections (well, its meant for WiFi but it should work over LTE.) With VoLTE coming soon, it might just work all over LTE but I'm not sure. It would be a bit annoying to have to use Verizon's messaging app but if it works that would be a nice upgrade path if I decide to upgrade soon. I'm also looking at the Galaxy Alpha. If I don't though, I would be more than okay sticking with the Moto X for a few more years.
As a follow up to my original post, I heard there may be a version available for Verizon in the US. Does anyone know if this is accurate? Thx
dzeek said:
As a follow up to my original post, I heard there may be a version available for Verizon in the US. Does anyone know if this is accurate? Thx
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it's only a rumor afaik
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Nuckin said:
I should clarify that by messaging I meant SMS. which will use CDMA. I glanced at the white paper for this phone and so no mention of CDMA so I'm willing to bet this phone will only work for AT&T and T-Mobile in the U.S. There is hope for a Z3w Compact since there is going to be a Z3 verizon compatible version. but we'll have to wait and see
And the original Moto-X is still a damn good phone, I wouldn't swap it out yet for probably another 6 months to a year at least
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do you know if the z3 works fully with metropcs? which works on tmobiles network?
oposai said:
do you know if the z3 works fully with metropcs? which works on tmobiles network?
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i believe it does since they just shut off metropcs's cdma and moved everyone over to gsm recently.
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do you know if the z3 works fully with metropcs? which works on tmobiles network?
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MetroPCS's original network was CDMA, but since the T-Mobile purchase if it uses a SIM it should work because that should use T-Mobile's towers but I can't say with 100% confidence, I'm a T-Mobile user
Question is - VoLTE isn't something that can be 'hacked', correct? If it were enabled on the Z3v, for example - it wouldn't just be a matter of extracting some files from there and voila, right?
Verizon VoLTE is not going to help. For now, it only applies when both parties to a conversation have it and are both on 4G. That's no substitute for CDMA calling.
cpurick said:
Verizon VoLTE is not going to help. For now, it only applies when both parties to a conversation have it and are both on 4G. That's no substitute for CDMA calling.
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Thanks for clarifying that it's a technology that requires the participation of both parties (though I guess that wouldn't be true of landline phones). Any mobile VoIP out there that doesn't suck these days?
They don't use it for land line calls. As it's currently implemented it only comes into play when two cell phones can both use it.
VZW employees I spoke with said they've been told not to oversell it because the benefits aren't really experienced that often.
I've activated on Verizon
My Z3c has successfully connected to Verizon's LTE network, once the other radios are disabled in the phone info screen (IOW the phone is in 'LTE Only' mode).
However, while it connects to Band 4 without issue, it doesn't see Band 13 at all, even though my other phone, a 2013 Moto X, sees it just fine. Is there any reason to think that Band 13 is disabled in the phone by default? Or is Band 13 varied enough that the phone only supports some specific part of it? Or is the Band 13 support just a typo in the specs? Note, this is the D5803 model, bought directly from the Sony Store here, not the D5833 model which lacks a bunch of radios.
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Never mind. After power cycling the cell radio, using the LTE Discovery app, I did, in fact, manage to connect to Band 13 as well. The signal on both is reported as being much weaker than on my Moto X, interestingly enough. Moreover, it switches to Band 4 after a few seconds, I suspect because Band 4 is a lot faster.
LastSilmaril said:
My Z3c has successfully connected to Verizon's LTE network, once the other radios are disabled in the phone info screen (IOW the phone is in 'LTE Only' mode).
However, while it connects to Band 4 without issue, it doesn't see Band 13 at all, even though my other phone, a 2013 Moto X, sees it just fine. Is there any reason to think that Band 13 is disabled in the phone by default? Or is Band 13 varied enough that the phone only supports some specific part of it? Or is the Band 13 support just a typo in the specs? Note, this is the D5803 model, bought directly from the Sony Store here, not the D5833 model which lacks a bunch of radios.
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Never mind. After power cycling the cell radio, using the LTE Discovery app, I did, in fact, manage to connect to Band 13 as well. The signal on both is reported as being much weaker than on my Moto X, interestingly enough. Moreover, it switches to Band 4 after a few seconds, I suspect because Band 4 is a lot faster.
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I assume you can't make calls?
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phositadc said:
I assume you can't make calls?
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Yup, no calls or texts. But that's what GV is for. I'm on a grandfathered unlimited plan so whatever minimal amt of usage VoIP and texting would represent is of no concern to me.
LastSilmaril said:
Yup, no calls or texts. But that's what GV is for. I'm on a grandfathered unlimited plan so whatever minimal amt of usage VoIP and texting would represent is of no concern to me.
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Hey, I'm looking to make the same move and wondering
1) How many months/days have you been using your Z3c on Verizon?
2) Did you activate on a new line or replace phone on active line? Any look-for's?
3) Are you using Hangouts for Google Voice? Any drawbacks compared with previous calling/texting experience?
*4) Are you able to add the Advanced Calling 1.0 feature for VoLTE?
Thanks!
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Ok..so does 4.4.2 finally give us AWS on verizon? Need it badly here in NYC. Delay is activating this band is ridiculous
azzurrony said:
Ok..so does 4.4.2 finally give us AWS on verizon? Need it badly here in NYC. Delay is activating this band is ridiculous
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4.4 on my Verizon Dev X appears to give me AWS LTE... I say that because I get LTE signal when using my T-Mobile USA SIM in my X. And T-Mobile supports Band 4, not Band 13.
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4.4 on my Verizon Dev X appears to give me AWS LTE... I say that because I get LTE signal when using my T-Mobile USA SIM in my X. And T-Mobile supports Band 4, not Band 13.
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4.4 VZ Dev Ed gives me band 4 LTE with a TMo SIM. Have yet to try it since flashing a EU 4.4.2 file (kept my 4.4 VZ radios, so I can't imagine it would change much, but Play Store recognizes my device as XT1052 now, which I find funny).
What app do you use to check the band?
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What app do you use to check the band?
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I have nothing that will display the LTE Band. I would love to find one that does.
For me, its process of Elimination.. VZW X initially supported LTE Band 13, which T-mobile doesn't support. T-Mobile does support LTE Band 4, which is the only other VZW LTE Band. (VZW lists Band 13 and 4 on their page for the X). Since I get LTE with my T-Mobile SIM it must be LTE band 4.
If you get T-Mobile LTE in any device, it supports AWS LTE, period.
I understand the process of elimination but on my SGS3 it would give me a band number (Band 13 in my case) but my Moto X gives me no band number. Is there a way to find out what band it is actually connected to?
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I understand the process of elimination but on my SGS3 it would give me a band number (Band 13 in my case) but my Moto X gives me no band number. Is there a way to find out what band it is actually connected to?
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As far as I know, no, not on vanilla Android. I also own a Galaxy S4 and what you're talking about is integrated into TouchWiz.
The Moto X used to tell you what Band it was on...this was prior to the Kitkat update. After that, I have been unable to find an app that tells me what band it is using. If anyone else has ideas, let me know. (BTW I am not rooted.)
Can someone please confirm with a screen shot that the Developer Edition of the Moto X has band 4 LTE AWS support for VERIZON. The only reason I did not purchase a Dev Edition of the Moto X is because I contacted Moto (after scouring the Internet for specs, Dev Edition says 750 Mhz LTE ) support and they specifically told me Verizon Dev Edition doesn't support AWS Band 4 for verizon.
Thanks.
Well, when I put my T-Mobile SIM in, I get LTE. Since T-Mobile uses Band 4, and not Band 13, that would imply the Verizon Moto X supports Band 4 LTE.
But T-Mobile or Verizon sim installed in the phone, it never reports Band 13 or Band 4 when connected to LTE.
AWS Dev Edition.
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Well, when I put my T-Mobile SIM in, I get LTE. Since T-Mobile uses Band 4, and not Band 13, that would imply the Verizon Moto X supports Band 4 LTE.
But T-Mobile or Verizon sim installed in the phone, it
never reports Band 13 or Band 4 when connected to LTE.
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Yeah I've seen other reports of this. I was looking for proof from someone in a big city with Verizon's AWS network enabled to show me some really fast speed on a Verizon network.
Thanks for the reply though.
Does this help? Done the other night sitting in my living room... near Thorndale, PA... its not a big city, but its not bad.
And remember, just like with Band 13, there could be congestion on Band 4 LTE.. So don't expect speeds to always be this high... especially since AWS is 1700/2100Mhz so in building and such is not as good, and signal doesn't travel as from from the towers when compared to Band 4.
Oh, and here is a shot with my T-Mobile sim in my Verizon X. If the phone didn't support Band 4 I wouldn't get LTE on T-Mobile.
I've done speed tests on my dev x and at the same time ran a speed test on my wife's s3. I know the area has aws since my s4 showed I was connected to it. On the x I got about 70 mbps and on the s3 about 10 mbps. Aws is definitely supported on this phone.
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KidJoe said:
Does this help? Done the other night sitting in my living room... near Thorndale, PA... its not a big city, but its not bad.
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Hey, my former boss lives in Thorndale and I used to work in Downingtown. Small world.
kbluhm said:
Hey, my former boss lives in Thorndale and I used to work in Downingtown. Small world.
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Yes. Very small. I live about 2 miles from the Thorndale SEPTA station.. Its called Romansville, but no one has heard of it, and we use Coatesville post office but thankfully that is all of coatesville we use!!
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Yes. Very small. I live about 2 miles from the Thorndale SEPTA station.. Its called Romansville, but no one has heard of it, and we use Coatesville post office but thankfully that is all of coatesville we use!!
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I dated a girl from Coatsville, hahaha. Ok, enough off-topic from me.
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Why would they put a chip in with different radio compatibility when all that is really different underneath is the bootloader?
Verizon
imnuts said:
Why would they put a chip in with different radio compatibility when all that is really different underneath is the bootloader?
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It's verizon. They disable things.
dmiramon said:
It's verizon. They disable things.
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Verizon didn't make the phone, Motorola did. If they put a different radio chip in, they'd have to pay for FCC testing/approval/certification on two devices, one of which is going to be a low sales model. Do you really think they'd offer it if they had to spend well over what they'd ever hope to make back for it?
I see that the Sony mobile US site has the z3c listed as coming soon. Is it best to just wait for that to come out or will the European version fully support all of the AT&T bands? I'd hate to import a phone and not get the best reception/internet.
I know it was suggested in another thread that it would work with AT&T but then there was some confusion in another thread about the phone possibly missing 1 or 2 bands. Any help from an expert would be greatly appreciated.
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I know Sony's white papers have been wrong in the past (Z1 Compact with glass back, grrrr ) but the one for the Z3 Compact D5803 has 4G bands Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20.
I've had a hunt around for AT&T's 4G bands but this seems a but trickier as it seems dependent on region, going by wikipedia it looks like the main bands are 2, 4 and 17 which are all supported by the European version per the above. It probably doesn't help that I'm not from the US and I don't have enough posts to add the URLs, sorry.
I feel like I remember reading back in the day that some companies used bands of the same frequency that weren't cross compatible. It's always made me nervous about buying non US phones. However my info could be wrong.
When I was in the states, I got a AT&T sim card. My phone definitely says that it has the lte bands. Still, it only displayed h+ while I was there. I did not bother to go back to the store and check because the speed was very good anyway. So maybe it's because the bands are different or it was working on 4g but just not displaying it, I don't know.
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When I was in the states, I got a AT&T sim card. My phone definitely says that it has the lte bands. Still, it only displayed h+ while I was there. I did not bother to go back to the store and check because the speed was very good anyway. So maybe it's because the bands are different or it was working on 4g but just not displaying it, I don't know.
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AT&T must provision your sim for LTE otherwise you'll only receive 3G even if the phone is capable of 4G. Usually they do this based on the IMEI of your device and if it's a non AT&T phone then it won't appear in their database as LTE capable. There are ways for them to manually configure the sim for LTE by contacting support.
The UK model D5803 definitely supports AT&Ts LTE on bands 2, 4, and 17.
Does AT&T have more bands than 2,4,17?
I found when googling AT&T LTE bands that they apparently have also started to use band 5 (850mhz) but that's still supported by the Z3 compact. This was both on AT&T's forums and howardforums but I'm not sure if AT&T need to do something else to enable LTE support on that particular device. I think my own network (3 UK) has to do this as it took a few months for my unlocked Moto X to pick up their 4G network.
From AT&T: https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/byop.html
Refer to the manufacturer's website to verify your unlocked device works with a SIM card on an AT&T GSM network frequency:
• 3G UMTS network 850/1900MHz bands
• 4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
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AWS (1700/2100MHz) is band 4 (Blocks A, B, C, D, E)
700MHz is band 17 (blocks B, C)
850MHz is band 5
1900MHz is band 2
The overwhelming majority of AT&T LTE is on band 17. Bands 2 and 4 are used for additional capacity in some markets and/or some rural/smaller market coverage. I'm not sure they've rolled anything out on band 5 yet, but even so the Z3c has that covered.
OK,
thank you very much for the additional research. It seemed like that was the case but I don't trust my own opinion since I haven't done any real looking into this type of stuff in like 4 years.
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OK,
thank you very much for the additional research. It seemed like that was the case but I don't trust my own opinion since I haven't done any real looking into this type of stuff in like 4 years.
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To answer your original question, as far as we know there is no US model of the Z3c, only the EU D5803 and Asia D5833. If Sony sells it unlocked in the US it will probably be the D5803.
In preparation, hopefully I'll have it in a week.
Programming non-AT&T devices with the correct APN and MMS data settings
Subscribing since I'm very interested in this phone and my service provider is AT&T
Works great. I live in both NY and San Francisco, and I get LTE everywhere on AT&T.
I imported the D5803 (EU) model through Expansys.
Yes. Just make sure to get the d5803 model.
Copied from phone arena, yet device page doesn't list the bands.
"The FCC filing is for a *Motorola device with the model number*XT1254, which matches the leaked DROID Turbo model number we've seen before. The odd thing is that the filing lists support for*LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17, and GSM and WCDMA frequencies at 850MHz, 1700MHz, and 1900MHz. Those bands match up with AT&T and T-Mobile; but, the DROID Turbo would be a Verizon device"
My question is for my friend who uses cricket. Would the droid turbo work with cricket?
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Copied from phone arena, yet device page doesn't list the bands.
"The FCC filing is for a *Motorola device with the model number*XT1254, which matches the leaked DROID Turbo model number we've seen before. The odd thing is that the filing lists support for*LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17, and GSM and WCDMA frequencies at 850MHz, 1700MHz, and 1900MHz. Those bands match up with AT&T and T-Mobile; but, the DROID Turbo would be a Verizon device"
My question is for my friend who uses cricket. Would the droid turbo work with cricket?
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just wait, next week we will have full specs and we will know for sure.
There are two Droid Turbo listings that have gone through the FCC.
FCC ID: IHDT56PK1 is the Verizon Droid Turbo. It has support for:
GSM 850 / 900
WCDMA Band II / V
CDMA2000 BC0 / BC1
LTE Bands 2/4/7/13
This is pretty much a typical "global" Verizon phone. It does not support AT&T LTE bands but should work on their 3G network. Cricket uses the AT&T network. However there is that second Droid Turbo listing.
FCC ID: IHDT56PK2 is the other listing, it is stated as electrically identical to the Verizon Droid Turbo. It has support for:
GSM 850 / 1900
WCDMA Band II / IV / V
LTE Bands 2/4/5/7/17
This is more or less an AT&T version of the Droid Turbo. So this would be the phone you should be looking for when it eventually comes out.
Networks and Bands
CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900MHz)
LTE Cat 4 (bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
Carrier Aggregation (B4+13)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100MHz
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
shah_vm said:
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
AFAIK, Turbo support band 2, 4 which is compatible with T-Mobile. (1700, 2100).
I don't see the supported band in 3G and GSM but 4G
Also, Motorola planned to launch an international version of Turbo so if you don't want to get from verizon, you can get this version.
Yeah I'd suspect it was using HSPA+ because I've never gotten speeds much above 1 or 2mbps down with 3G.
Either way, definitely not a deal breaker, anything is better than dreaded EDGE/1X LOL.
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will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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I bought this phone on a lark to see if it would work on T-Mo, and I CAN receive LTE. I validated download speeds above 12 MBPS. The coverage seems to be a bit spotty and I am not sure what band is being picked up. I am in Minneapolis.
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Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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I can confirm LTE does work for T-mobile. I popped my sim in and set up the APN and I can get LTE with download speeds in the 20M range now.
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I bought this phone on a lark to see if it would work on T-Mo, and I CAN receive LTE. I validated download speeds above 12 MBPS. The coverage seems to be a bit spotty and I am not sure what band is being picked up. I am in Minneapolis.
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I can confirm LTE does work for T-mobile. I popped my sim in and set up the APN and I can get LTE with download speeds in the 20M range now.
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Thanks for confirming
cpufrost said:
Probably not.
I put my ATT SIM card in, clicked on the "not a verizon sim card" pop up to make it go away.
Had a 3G icon but speeds are not bad, getting 6-7 Mbps / 2 Mbps (down/up) on ATT. Configured proper APN and it still did not matter.
Put the Verizon sim back and had LTE and noticed the APN I saved for ATT was gone and the Verizon one was back.
In any case, I don't plan to use this device on ATT but was curious if that (ATT) sim would work. Why? If it works (which it did, placed calls, and sent SMS), this means I should be able to travel overseas and use another SIM card. It was a question I could not get answered in the corporate VZW store. Now I know.
I'd suspect TMO LTE would not work. If you plan on using the device full time you probably won't have LTE speeds.
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@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
cortez.i said:
@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
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It does on tmo...
shah_vm said:
will this phone be able to use on tmobile LTE band?
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@cpufrost - curious to know if simultaneous data and voice worked for you with your ATT sim. thanks.
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Yes, just tried it and was able to surf while on a call.
Speed tests show about the same speeds as well, approx 6 down, 2 up.
However when on Verizon there is no data when on a call. They need to enable LTE for voice and data. I believe it's Advanced calling 1.0.
Interestingly enough I got a text yesterday afternoon on my other number that's on an iphone 6 that is now active.
Hopefully it won't be long.
EDIT: Even though the signal icon shows 3G when the ATT sim is there it may be getting LTE. My area doesn't get good signal, typ. -115dBM on LTE and -90 dBM for HSPA, etc. I'll have to try it in an area where LTE is stronger. In any case HSPA+ is pretty good, it surfs pretty fast.
Thanks guys
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Hey guys,
Picked up the Turbo at a Buffalo best Buy and set it up today on Rogers/Fido. Couldn't seem to get an LTE signal even though the phone and network seem to be compatible on LTE band 4.
Anyways, for any of those wondering about this or considering doing the same thing and bringing a Turbo up north, after about an hour 4G LTE switched on by itself and I must say these speeds are incredible. 76MB Down and 17MB Up. My home cable speeds aren't that fast.
So basically, anyone reading this thread in Canada. Fear not and buy this beast of a phone.
P.S. (I used the "LTEMOBILE.APN" APN)
04deveni said:
Hey guys,
Picked up the Turbo at a Buffalo best Buy and set it up today on Rogers/Fido. Couldn't seem to get an LTE signal even though the phone and network seem to be compatible on LTE band 4.
Anyways, for any of those wondering about this or considering doing the same thing and bringing a Turbo up north, after about an hour 4G LTE switched on by itself and I must say these speeds are incredible. 76MB Down and 17MB Up. My home cable speeds aren't that fast.
So basically, anyone reading this thread in Canada. Fear not and buy this beast of a phone.
P.S. (I used the "LTEMOBILE.APN" APN)
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How much did it cost you outright?
HTC One M8
Elisha said:
How much did it cost you outright?
HTC One M8
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Just over $700 USD. Not bad at all if you ask me. As soon as I sell my LG G3 it'll be a $200 upgrade.
04deveni said:
Just over $700 USD. Not bad at all if you ask me. As soon as I sell my LG G3 it'll be a $200 upgrade.
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32gb or 64gb?
HTC One M8
it work with venezuela bands?
2g 900 and 850
3g 900 and 1900
4g 1800
thanks
You guys are actively using the Verizon droid turbo on other Sim cards and networks? Isn't the Sim card a micro Sim card? I can use this device with T-Mobile out of the box without unlocking or needing to anything special?
Sent from my XT1254
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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It will work perfect, 100%
Telus sells the XT1097, your looking at the XT1095 out the US just don't pick the AT&T model as it has a locked boot loader that seems cant be unlocked at all..... The Telus model, supposed to have the quickest updates... well thats a lie.... there is no update as of today... and no indication of when either...
I was able to buy a XT1095. I still haven't received it but now all I can think about is "What if I need to use the warranty for some reason?". Did anyone in Canada have to go through that?
busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
"Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)
Telus Moto X Specs
4G LTE: (Bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7,17, 29)
4G (HSPA): 2100MHz (Band I) / 1900MHz (Band II) / 1700MHz (Band IV) / 850MHz (Band V) / 900MHz (Band VIII)
Seems like the Pure Edition is missing band 29, where its available on the Telus version. Not sure if it will affect the LTE connection"
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On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.
BMelz said:
I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.
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You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.
Steve-x said:
You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.
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thanks for the reply Steve, so the lack of band 29 shouldn't be an issue? LTE speeds should be achievable?
thanks again,