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Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
dray_jr said:
if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
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yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
msespindola said:
yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
dray_jr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
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Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
msespindola said:
Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
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idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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this is why i dont read on my phone i miss crap anyway if you flash 4.4.2 yes you can flash the 4.4 TWRP and then SuperSU with a unlocked bootloader.. sorry for my miss read thanks for the catch
dray_jr said:
idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Thx guys, I'll do this later, thx for the awesome responses
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
dray_jr said:
idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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What I've read is you need to go back to stock recovery and also make sure any /system files are unchanged. For example I renamed my old exchange apk's (in /system/app) when I put in the new ones from the nexus 5 on 4.4.2, so I would need to name those files back.
NPOA556 said:
It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
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I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
NPOA556 said:
I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
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Good questions. I'm not sure. We certainly root differently than a non Dev edition. They might have some files modified that we don't have to modify. Also, I wonder is going to stock recovery will unroot us.
I guess we wait and stay patient.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
The only hope you have is if someone decides to take that factory image and runnit through kitchen to make it a flashable zip. You will also need the updated modem from either 4.4 or 4.4.2 to prevent system settings from fc ing
This goes for any moto, retail and or developer edition
You may also attempt to flash the sbf firmware and remove the delete userdata from the XML but no guarantee that you will not have issues
Hope that helps
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
To take an ota you must be stock. Meaning everything. As long as you haven't flashed an updated bootloader you can just flash system.IMG and recovery.IMG from the sbf your phone is currently on you can take an ota. A successful ota does NOT require a data wipe.
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finalarcadia said:
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
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You cannot flash any of those through twrp! If you want to flash 4.4.2 you need to fastboot the system.IMG and boot.IMG and you will need to wipe your data. If you choose this route you will not be able to take the ota when its available you'd have to wait for the sbf file to be released and update through house of moto, rsd, or fastboot.
flashallthetime said:
Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
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some questions.. and comments...
I agree with #1. You must have STOCK recovery for an OTA to install properly. And #3, because the OTA generally has a file list with check sums to compare against what is on your device to make sure all required files are there and the correct version/size/etc before it will start to install.
#2 I have a question on as I've not had an issue with this unless the root process makes changes to system files (thus causing a problem for #3). I've lost root taking an OTA, but that is it.
Then again, I have a Dev X with unlocked bootloader, and I don't know enough about RockMyMoto, SlapMyMoto, etc was of rooting the X, except that initially they replaced the recovery partition with an image that when selected/booted allowed write to system, etc. This would cause issue with #1 (no longer have stock recovery on the recovery partition), but not sure what, if any system files get touched or altered from stock.
Finally, you mention clearing data being required... This would wipe you back to factory defaults and remove your apps/data. I don't believe its "required" but rather just suggested as it can make the device run smoother after the update is done.
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msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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Depends on how you rooted.
If you've downloaded the SBF file for the ROM on your device (if you don't have it, see if its available from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 ), you can unzip it, and fastboot flash the stock recovery from it onto your device, take the OTA, and then later fastboot flash TWRP back on and install SuperSU again to root.
This assumes you did NOT touch any system files the update will check for prior to running/installing. If you did touch system files, edit build prop, removed/renamed any APK's... then fastboot flash recovery and system before taking the OTA
Hi,
I have a Moto X xt1058, with 4.2.2 post camera update, locked bootloader but rooted. I've been postponing the OTA to 4.4 for a while now. I now i can't just install it, because of the modifications i've been doing while rooted, and i'm pretty sure i can't restore everything i've done.
It seems that is pretty easy to brick this phone while changing versions. I would like to return it to stock, so that i can accept all OTAs. I don't care losing any data or root permissions. I've found this method to return to stock here in XDA:
Returning to Stock
Step one
Downloading the required drivers and software
Motorola Device Drivers
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Android SDK
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MFastboot(Used for manually downgrading to 4.2.2)
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For firmware Download pick what firmware you want from the link below
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Step Two
Returning device Stock and Locking Bootloader
1. Open your firmware and extract the files to the same folder as adb/fastboot and mfastboot.
2. open a CMD window and CD into the directory that we just extracted all the files too
3. type below commands one by one
Code:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash motoboot motoboot.img
fastboot flash logo logo.bin
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
mfastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
fastboot oem lock
i recommend wiping your device also but that is up to you if you dont want
to then skip the next two commands and just type the reboot command
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
after your phone is done rebooting you will be completely stock firmware of your choice
I would like to know if there's any risk in doing this, or which would be the better way to get to android 4.4.
Thanks!
You can flash the same or higher versions . It's downgrading that bricks. On 4.4.2 and higher. ?
KJ said:
You can flash the same or higher versions . It's downgrading that bricks. On 4.4.2 and higher. ?
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So does that mean if my carrier give me an update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 i can take it and not worry. Also, with an unlocked boot loader will it re lock it?
Thanks
vagh_nagas said:
So does that mean if my carrier give me an update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 i can take it and not worry. Also, with an unlocked boot loader will it re lock it?
Thanks
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No, it won't relock it. But, you can't take an ota if you have a custom recovery or have made many system changes....like Xposed. It needs to be uninstalled, properly.
KJ said:
No, it won't relock it. But, you can't take an ota if you have a custom recovery or have made many system changes....like Xposed. It needs to be uninstalled, properly.
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Okay, so that means that as long as I leave the recovery alone, and uninstall xposed before i take the update I can keep the boot loader. that is good. but does that mean that I can easily re root it? also thanks for the help, I have never rooted a phone that still gets updates and that is activated.
vagh_nagas said:
Okay, so that means that as long as I leave the recovery alone, and uninstall xposed before i take the update I can keep the boot loader. that is good. but does that mean that I can easily re root it? also thanks for the help, I have never rooted a phone that still gets updates and that is activated.
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If you have the stock recovery, yes....that's good. As long as Xposed is the only system changes you've done....You should be good.
Root is the same as any version with an unlocked bootloader.
But how did you root without a custom recovery?
OP, you can just use RSDlite to update directly to 4.4.4. Just download RSDlite, as well as the 4.4.4 firmware for your phone. Boot to fastboot while keeping your phone plugged in to your PC with USB debugging on, and RSDlite will detect your phone on fastboot mode. Select the firmware zip and flash it.
KJ said:
If you have the stock recovery, yes....that's good. As long as Xposed is the only system changes you've done....You should be good.
Root is the same as any version with an unlocked bootloader.
But how did you root without a custom recovery?
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When I first tried to use xposed, I Soft bricked my phone. That was just using towel pie's method of root. So I decided that it was not a good idea to do any modifications to my phone that I did not feel I had much control over. That is why I used the 4.4.2 boot loader unlocker (I forgot who made it already, sorry) . After that I re-installed a newer version of towel pie, and super SU (I have better luck keeping root with this app), and towel pie asked if I was going to install xposed and i said yes. then I attempted the xposed and reboot. at first it had said that it did not install correctly. then after the third time of me attempting it it and after soft rebooting the phone after using towel pie's software it let me keep xposed. I believe it was the soft restart that did it but I am not quite sure.
I have pics if you want to see my recovery.
Just to let people know i am using a Republic Wireless Moto X, That is why I must leave the recovery alone. Yes all features still work as if I had done nothing to it, Just in case some people were wondering that have this service.
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Another question I have for somebody that has republic wireless. if I unlocked my boot loader can I go back to jelly bean or is that just an impossibility?
mauri6870 said:
OP, you can just use RSDlite to update directly to 4.4.4. Just download RSDlite, as well as the 4.4.4 firmware for your phone. Boot to fastboot while keeping your phone plugged in to your PC with USB debugging on, and RSDlite will detect your phone on fastboot mode. Select the firmware zip and flash it.
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so in my case i can flash my careers firmware (4.4.4) while on 4.2.2? there's no risk bricking it that way? or if i get the same firmware (4.2.2 post cam) right?
jisola said:
so in my case i can flash my careers firmware (4.4.4) while on 4.2.2? there's no risk bricking it that way? or if i get the same firmware (4.2.2 post cam) right?
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Right.
Tho, let it be said....everything we do on XDA, everything , comes with risk.
Anything can go wrong, anytime.
Just wanted to remind of that. No one will, or at least should, guarentee anything on XDA. We all take the responsibility ourselves if something goes very wrong.
?
So in theory , yes, you should be absolutely fine. But again....stuff happens. Proceed at your own risk.
jisola said:
Hi,
I have a Moto X xt1058, with 4.2.2 post camera update, locked bootloader but rooted. I've been postponing the OTA to 4.4 for a while now. I now i can't just install it, because of the modifications i've been doing while rooted, and i'm pretty sure i can't restore everything i've done.
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Before you upgrade, do you want to root after you've upgraded?
If so, you need to be aware of what can/can't be done BEFORE you update.
well, like things usually happen, if there's risk it will go wrong.
i flashed my careers 4.4.2 and kind of brick it. when it powers up the motorola logo shows up and instantly enters ap fastboot mode with the security downgrade failure.
i'll try flashing a 4.2.2 firmware (same career) to see if that fixes it, if not, i dont know what else could i try.
thanks everyone for your comments!
jisola said:
well, like things usually happen, if there's risk it will go wrong.
i flashed my careers 4.4.2 and kind of brick it. when it powers up the motorola logo shows up and instantly enters ap fastboot mode with the security downgrade failure.
i'll try flashing a 4.2.2 firmware (same career) to see if that fixes it, if not, i dont know what else could i try.
thanks everyone for your comments!
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If your bootloader is unlocked and you can get to a functioning bootloader mode you are not bricked.
Wansanta said:
If your bootloader is unlocked and you can get to a functioning bootloader mode you are not bricked.
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i have a locked bootloader...
i've tried flashing 4.2.2 and there were a lot of errors during installation that werent there when i tried to go to 4.4, after flashing was complete i got the same boot error, is there anything else to try?
jisola said:
great to hear that, i have a locked bootloader
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Locked is above my paygrade.
But by functioning bootloader I mean you can use fastboot commands to flash.
lanemst curr
Wansanta said:
Locked or unlocked?
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i edited... i misread when u said unlocked...
jisola said:
i edited... i misread when u said unlocked...
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Have you tried sunshine to see if you can unlock? I don't know if it would work in the state your phone is in but it is worth the $25 if it would work.
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Also, this site has resources on it for the XT1058 but make sure you read them thoroughly and understand what you are doing b/f you proceed with any of these methods.
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/?s=xt1058
Of the utmost importance is that you know what version of the bootloader your device is on. You MUST know this b/f you do anything. What version is it?
Wansanta said:
Have you tried sunshine to see if you can unlock? I don't know if it would work in the state your phone is in but it is worth the $25 if it would work.
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Also, this site has resources on it for the XT1058 but make sure you read them thoroughly and understand what you are doing b/f you proceed with any of these methods.
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/?s=xt1058
Of the utmost importance is that you know what version of the bootloader your device is on. You MUST know this b/f you do anything. What version is it?
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thanks for all this help.
never heard of sunshine before, i assume is way to unlock your bootloader right?
im kind of new with bootloaders phones, how could i check my bootloader version, doesn't seem to appear in the fastboot menu
jisola said:
how could i check my bootloader version, doesn't seem to appear in the fastboot menu
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It is the second line. Mine is 30:B7 b/c I am on 4.4.4.
Wansanta said:
It is the second line. Mine is 30:B7 b/c I am on 4.4.4.
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thanks again
mine is: 30.B4
Is it okay to flash the newest image (LMY74I) coming from LMY47O? I won't do any harm in skipping 5.0.1 will I?
Fastboot or recovery? Stock or custom rom? Best to fastboot the updated bootloader and radio if you are updating via custom recovery. I run stock and fastboot bootloader, radio, and system. Boot into recovery and then reboot. Before it reboots you will be prompted to install root. I use this updating method to keep my apps and settings.
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Fastboot or recovery? Stock or custom rom? Best to fastboot the updated bootloader and radio if you are updating via custom recovery. I run stock and fastboot bootloader, radio, and system. Boot into recovery and then reboot. Before it reboots you will be prompted to install root. I use this updating method to keep my apps and settings.
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That didn't answer my question. I'm wondering if I can skip 5.0.1 stock and go straight to 5.1 still stock.
Forerunner326 said:
That didn't answer my question. I'm wondering if I can skip 5.0.1 stock and go straight to 5.1 still stock.
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He couldn't answer your question because you were too vague. And still are.. What method are you using (now we know you're stock)? And will you be remaining unrooted?
rootSU said:
He couldn't answer your question because you were too vague. And still are.. What method are you using (now we know you're stock)? And will you be remaining unrooted?
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Unrooted, stock, 5.0 LMY47O to 5.1 LMY47I still stock and unrooted. I am sorry for the confusion.
Forerunner326 said:
Unrooted, stock, 5.0 LMY47O to 5.1 LMY47I still stock and unrooted. I am sorry for the confusion.
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If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
rootSU said:
If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
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Is this because oem unlocking was unchecked for those people?
rootSU said:
If you're planning on unlocking the bootloader and flashing the full factory image then yes I that should be fine. Just a word of caution, relocking the bootloader has left some people in a bad place so do ensure if you just relock, that your phone is fully working and booting before hand.
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Even if the device is rooted, all it will do is cause root to be lost correct?
Forerunner326 said:
Is this because oem unlocking was unchecked for those people?
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See this post on relocking instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59699095
Forerunner326 said:
Even if the device is rooted, all it will do is cause root to be lost correct?
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Yes but if its rooted, you'll never get OTA, so there's no point flashing the entire factory image.
If you flash the entire factory image and dont root, you'll get ota in future.
Though, I'm guessing g you'll be impatient anyway so its will be irrelevant. In which case since you'll probably just want to flash yourself and be rooted, why bother flashing the entire factory image? You dont need to flash recovery or bootloader... Just flash radio, system and boot.
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Yes but if its rooted, you'll never get OTA, so there's no point flashing the entire factory image.
If you flash the entire factory image and dont root, you'll get ota in future.
Though, I'm guessing g you'll be impatient anyway so its will be irrelevant. In which case since you'll probably just want to flash yourself and be rooted, why bother flashing the entire factory image? You dont need to flash recovery or bootloader... Just flash radio, system and boot.
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so if you are rooted on 5.0 stock and unlocked bootloader and no custom recoveries. How do you install the 5.1 update without losing everything?
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so if you are rooted on 5.0 stock and unlocked bootloader and no custom recoveries. How do you install the 5.1 update without losing everything?
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Flash everything from the factory image except the userdata.img
I got my MotoX about a year ago, non-dev edition on VZW. I installed Hashcode's SafeStrap custom recovery and flashed Kryptonite's "stock" 4.4.2 rom to the stock slot. That satisfied me for the time being and I lost track of current development on the Moto X.
I've been itching for a change though and a software update is just the fix. Since I haven't kept up thoug, I really don't know how to go about it. I've been reading about the options but I don't know where my phone stands. Can I go the CM11-> CM12 route with Safestrap even though my bootloader is locked? Or do I need to use SunShine to unlock my bootloader and install a different custom recovery? And do I need to revert to stock to stock at any point? I'm pretty comfortable with all of this, I just need some nudging in the right direction.
llsmith said:
I got my MotoX about a year ago, non-dev edition on VZW. I installed Hashcode's SafeStrap custom recovery and flashed Kryptonite's "stock" 4.4.2 rom to the stock slot. That satisfied me for the time being and I lost track of current development on the Moto X.
I've been itching for a change though and a software update is just the fix. Since I haven't kept up thoug, I really don't know how to go about it. I've been reading about the options but I don't know where my phone stands. Can I go the CM11-> CM12 route with Safestrap even though my bootloader is locked? Or do I need to use SunShine to unlock my bootloader and install a different custom recovery? And do I need to revert to stock to stock at any point? I'm pretty comfortable with all of this, I just need some nudging in the right direction.
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If you NEVER took the 4.4.4 OTA you might want to consider unlocking your bootloader via "Sunshine" Then you can flash CM or anything you want with a real recovery and not safestrap. Just know that unlocking your bootloaer on a reatail device will void your warranty.
Travisdroidx2 said:
If you NEVER took the 4.4.4 OTA you might want to consider unlocking your bootloader via "Sunshine" Then you can flash CM or anything you want with a real recovery and not safestrap. Just know that unlocking your bootloaer on a reatail device will void your warranty.
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Right, my phone has never seen 4.4.4. So I'm going to go ahead and use Sunshine to unlock my boot loader as the first step. The warranty I'm not too concerned about.
I guess the next question is how do I go about replacing safestrap with TWRP? Is it the same as installing TWRP from stock?
llsmith said:
Right, my phone has never seen 4.4.4. So I'm going to go ahead and use Sunshine to unlock my boot loader as the first step. The warranty I'm not too concerned about.
I guess the next question is how do I go about replacing safestrap with TWRP? Is it the same as installing TWRP from stock?
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You should be familiar with flashing a custom recovery via adb if you have used TWRP on other devices. Once you have the bootloader unlocked you would need the correct recovery image of TWRP for the Moto X and then in bootloader mode use the command "fastboot flash recovery 'recovery.img'" where 'recovery.img' is the exact name of the file. If it flashed and it works properly then you could flash CM12 and Safestrap should be gone if you followed the flashing directions exactly. Don't forget to make a Nandroid of your current setup before you begin! Factory Resetting the device would be crucial if jumping from one ROM to another so it kind of takes care of itself.
I have a Verizon Nexus 6 that is rooted, unlocked, custom TWRP recovery and stock running 5.1 build LMY47E and I am getting the OTA notification for the 5.1.1 update. I have searched a good deal of places and haven't found the answer to how I might go about getting the update. I have been out of the rooting game for several years, so I am rusty and need a little help. I wasn't sure if there was a way to take the update and stay rooted or if I have to completely undo everything back to stock. Any info would be a great help and appreciated.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
evolefty said:
I have a Verizon Nexus 6 that is rooted, unlocked, custom TWRP recovery and stock running 5.1 build LMY47E and I am getting the OTA notification for the 5.1.1 update. I have searched a good deal of places and haven't found the answer to how I might go about getting the update. I have been out of the rooting game for several years, so I am rusty and need a little help. I wasn't sure if there was a way to take the update and stay rooted or if I have to completely undo everything back to stock. Any info would be a great help and appreciated.
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a.demarco said:
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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When installing a recovery, the updater script looks at system and boot. This means that you can not be rooted and and have the stock, encrypted kernel. You also need to have stock recovery to install the OTA.
You can download the 5.1.1 factory image from Google and flash the boot.img, system.img, bootloader.img, and radio.img. Then, while still in bootloader, select "recovery" and you will boot to TWRP where you can flash the SuperSU.zip.
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I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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The OTA will not install when the device is rooted
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When installing a recovery, the updater script looks at system and boot. This means that you can not be rooted and and have the stock, encrypted kernel. You also need to have stock recovery to install the OTA.
You can download the 5.1.1 factory image from Google and flash the boot.img, system.img, bootloader.img, and radio.img. Then, while still in bootloader, select "recovery" and you will boot to TWRP where you can flash the SuperSU.zip.
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Just checked again and yes I am rooted, with TWRP and I also checked and the device is not encrypted, so maybe that is why I am getting the notification. I really appreciate your input on getting the update installed.
evolefty said:
Just checked again and yes I am rooted, with TWRP and I also checked and the device is not encrypted, so maybe that is why I am getting the notification. I really appreciate your input on getting the update installed.
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You'll get the notification. You just can't flash it.
I'm not sure there's been a full, satisfactory answer to this thread (or a few others). Would using something like Nexus Root Toolkit to 1) unroot 2) restore stock recovery, 3) accept the OTA. Will this work?
- Does this relock the bootloader? (Would we then have to unlock, thus wiping the device?)
- Can we successfully re-root and flash recovery? (Or will new 5.1.1 versions be needed?)
At some point, to get 5.1.1 going, should I just backup and flash the whole bloody image from Google?
DogzOfWar said:
I'm not sure there's been a full, satisfactory answer to this thread (or a few others). Would using something like Nexus Root Toolkit to 1) unroot 2) restore stock recovery, 3) accept the OTA. Will this work?
- Does this relock the bootloader? (Would we then have to unlock, thus wiping the device?)
- Can we successfully re-root and flash recovery? (Or will new 5.1.1 versions be needed?)
At some point, to get 5.1.1 going, should I just backup and flash the whole bloody image from Google?
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- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
gee2012 said:
- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Supplementing that: using the "unroot" function in SuperSU is not sufficient with Lollipop. It still leaves the vestiges of a few modified files that will cause an OTA to fail.
gee2012 said:
Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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gee2012 said:
Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info and I really appreciate your input. What are your feelings on using Wug's toolkit to unroot and go back stock, take the update, then re-root and flash the custom recovery. I have never used a toolkit before, but that seems to be the popular method. Like I said at the beginning I am new to all of this, the last device I rooted and really messed around with was the droid x so bear with me as I am learning. I am currently reading about Wug's and will look at the method you just spoke of, but any info would be great.
evolefty said:
Thanks for the info and I really appreciate your input. What are your feelings on using Wug's toolkit to unroot and go back stock, take the update, then re-root and flash the custom recovery. I have never used a toolkit before, but that seems to be the popular method. Like I said at the beginning I am new to all of this, the last device I rooted and really messed around with was the droid x so bear with me as I am learning. I am currently reading about Wug's and will look at the method you just spoke of, but any info would be great.
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I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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Gotcha, and completely understand. I will do some reading on that method and again thanks for your help.
evolefty said:
Gotcha, and completely understand. I will do some reading on that method and again thanks for your help.
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Read the sticky threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-sticky-roll-thread-t3061066, this is a good start. Adb and fastboot isn`t that hard but its very safe and effective
gee2012 said:
Read the sticky threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-sticky-roll-thread-t3061066, this is a good start. Adb and fastboot isn`t that hard but its very safe and effective
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Will do, and that is the method I used to root for the simple fact to learn.
evolefty said:
Will do, and that is the method I used to root for the simple fact to learn.
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Good luck
gee2012 said:
- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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In that link you sent I am not seeing the VZW version of 5.1.1. Can we use the "International" version?
Thank you.
needoZ said:
In that link you sent I am not seeing the VZW version of 5.1.1. Can we use the "International" version?
Thank you.
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Yes, use the LMY47Z build.
DogzOfWar said:
So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Bootloader does not have to be locked to take an OTA. You can not be rooted or modified in any way however.
gee2012 said:
I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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While I agree, once you have "paid your dues" and flashed without automation then the NRT is a great tool, so long as you have an understanding of what it is doing.