I've got a 2 year old I9305 from the UK that's rooted and using the German 4.3 Stock ROM (couldn't update to 4.3 with a UK ROM at the time).
The battery life used to be much better - I've had it for a year (I bought it as not working from a family member and then got it running) and would easily get over a days use including hooked up to the wifi most of the day, 2-3 hours with the screen on etc but now I find I'm often getting less than a day with similar use. I've since done a factory reset and re-installed my apps but it's not improved anything noticeably.
I rotate through 4 Anker 2200mAh a genuine Samsung and a Samsung battery bought on Amazon (genuine - not sure about that!) using a wall mounted charger to do most of the charging as I spent the last 8 months traveling and didn't want my phone sat around in dorm rooms plugged into the mains while I wasn't in the room.
If I only had the one battery then it would make sense that it's ability to hold a full 2100mAh charge would drop after a year but with 5-6 batteries taking the strain, I'd assume that this would be less likely. I was looking at apps like Nova battery tester and An tu tu Tester and will give them a go tonight on which ever battery is in the phone - are they any good?
If the batteries are still taking a solid charge then I guess it's time to go back down the route of a custom ROM but as I travel a lot, I'm loathe to mess around with my S3 too much. I had an HTC HD2 that was running CWM and a couple of different ROM's and it died on me a couple of times while I was on the road. That was less of an issue than it will be now as I was traveling with a netbook - the S3 is my only device now so I need to to be stable. I'm not averse to going through the process of putting a ROM on the phone if there are a couple that are known to be super stable and lighter than stock on battery life, but if I can stick with my stock set up with some tweaks...I've got All in one toolbox controlling which apps load on boot, greenify to hibernate apps (instead of a task killer knocking them off) and No Bloat stopping the bloatware from running.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Hmm.. As you are using greenify, boot apps control and no bloat, you are extremely in control of your rom - that's good.
I think that there would be negligible to none difference in battery life between your rom and any custom. Stock Touchwizz roms are said to have better battery (from my own experience too), therefore installing any custom aosp rom should be rejected.
What I can suggest? Download some recent full rom from sammobile or live updates samsung (search google) and flash it through odin. Or maybe you have tried it?
However running one rom for few months may have some influence on battery too.
Also, installing custom kernel is the thing that may help you optimize battery/performance with few interesting features. Boeffla has great description and faq on the website and user-friendly config app. But that's only if you want to experiment (it is still rock-stable) a little bit.
Try custom
The 4.3 JB upgrade is well known as a battery killer. I had stock 4.3 from Base (Germany), but the 4.3 from H3G (UK) is the same for battery life. I have used CM 11.0 as well as others, almost all are nicer to batteries than stock.
Currently I use the S5 Elite Lite Rom. The current version 1.4 seems to be very stable even with both cpu and gpu overclocked. Battery life is still a little better than stock 4.3 and that is despite not using the deep sleep feature. CM 11.0 is even better for battery, at least for me probably down to there being none of the Stock bloatware. Hope that helps.
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Hbohd said:
Hmm.. As you are using greenify, boot apps control and no bloat, you are extremely in control of your rom - that's good.
I think that there would be negligible to none difference in battery life between your rom and any custom. Stock Touchwizz roms are said to have better battery (from my own experience too), therefore installing any custom aosp rom should be rejected.
What I can suggest? Download some recent full rom from sammobile or live updates samsung (search google) and flash it through odin. Or maybe you have tried it?
However running one rom for few months may have some influence on battery too.
Also, installing custom kernel is the thing that may help you optimize battery/performance with few interesting features. Boeffla has great description and faq on the website and user-friendly config app. But that's only if you want to experiment (it is still rock-stable) a little bit.
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The current ROM was one from a year ago when I first set up the phone but I've since done a factory reset and reinstalled all my apps.
I didn't realize that I could run a custom kernel with a stock ROM - that's something I'll look into. I don't have a custom recovery set up as the last time I used one on my HD2 I had nothing but trouble and, as I said, I need this set up to be reliable over pretty much everything else.
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The 4.3 JB upgrade is well known as a battery killer. I had stock 4.3 from Base (Germany), but the 4.3 from H3G (UK) is the same for battery life. I have used CM 11.0 as well as others, almost all are nicer to batteries than stock.
Currently I use the S5 Elite Lite Rom. The current version 1.4 seems to be very stable even with both cpu and gpu overclocked. Battery life is still a little better than stock 4.3 and that is despite not using the deep sleep feature. CM 11.0 is even better for battery, at least for me probably down to there being none of the Stock bloatware. Hope that helps.
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How long have you been running S5 Elite ROM? I think I'd probably stick with CM, though I'm intrigued by some of the other stuff out there, but ideally I'd like to stick with a solid, stock rom without a custom recovery.
SYMLY, I don't really understand what you meant in your post.
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How long have you been running S5 Elite ROM? I think I'd probably stick with CM, though I'm intrigued by some of the other stuff out there, but ideally I'd like to stick with a solid, stock rom without a custom recovery.
SYMLY, I don't really understand what you meant in your post.
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I have been running the S5 Elite ROM for a couple of weeks only. In that time I have found it very stable, by stable I mean no random reboots, and no force closes. It is not completely glitch free for example some apps need to have the sd card unmounted before being installed. I run it overclocked at 1.8Ghz and slight over clocking on the GPU too. Antutu score was around 20800. The S5 Elite ROM gives me a stock look including the S apps I want specifically SPlanner and SVoice.
If you really want to have a completely stock rom with good battery life you might need to consider downgrading to a 4.1.2 rom from Samfirmware or waiting for the fabled 4.4.2 upgrade. I've been waiting on that for months and finally gave up, hence I'm now using the S5 Elite.
Best of luck deciding, I guess there is no one size fits all solution.
Roms that may help with the batteries.
So far i've seen that stock roms usually consume less battery than stock firmware . something that may help you is deleting apps that you know you'll never use at all. that removes the autorun consuming less battery. Now. among the best but remains on 4.3, is the Alliancerom v3.5. i've seen that my battery drained less faster than on stock firmware. but also due to its kernel it can be controlled the amount of mhz using for process (if you don't know how to use it, do not touch it) . and also the charging rate can be controlled.
If you want a touchwiz based rom, i recommend AllianceROM V3.5 or AMCHA rom v6.11. Both roms are super stable, Alliance lags quite a bit though. Ive been using AMCHA (with S5 theme and agni kernel from aroma installer) rom for awhile, so far so problems and pretty good battery life
You can also try archidroid and neat ROM they are one of the best touchwiz 4.3 roms
To be honest, I'm thinking that I'd rather go down the route of checking over my batteries and trying out any other utilities that might aid in reducing the battery use of my S3.
If I were to go down the custom ROM route then I'd be more interested in the kernels as it's been pointed out that they're going to have more impact on power consumption.
So, any suggestions for utilities - as I've said I'm running all in one toolbox, no bloat and greenify. What about apps to check the actual capacity of the battery?
Well. That been said. Then my suggestion is that you delete apps you dont use at all. Actually that also works in alliancerom 3.5 or any rom or stock firmware. It is obvious that if you delete apps that have autorun enabeled by default when you restart or turn on it affects the ram and also affects the battery draining. My alliancerom 3.5 battery last even more than the original firmware. I've deleted plenty of apps i didnt need at all. More like junk to me. Of course. All of this you can do only if you are rooted. Also another suggestion. Ebay sells i9305 extended battery. It comes with the double, Triple and even more amount of mah for pretty good prices. With them i can assure you that you will use your smartphone with the highest performance without been worried of low battery until night.
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If I were to go down the custom ROM route then I'd be more interested in the kernels as it's been pointed out that they're going to have more impact on power consumption.
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No... nono ononono.
Stock kernel will have similar battery performance as agni or boeffla (on same settings). Sure, custom can bring a enhancment or two, but the battery improvements would be minimal.
A custom kernel will only improve a stock kernel battery performance if the stock kernel is ****ty to begin with. Not the case with TW 4.3
It's the rom, and it's apps and your apps.
How about installing Better Battery Stats and posting a few screenshots?
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No... nono ononono.
Stock kernel will have similar battery performance as agni or boeffla (on same settings). Sure, custom can bring a enhancment or two, but the battery improvements would be minimal.
A custom kernel will only improve a stock kernel battery performance if the stock kernel is ****ty to begin with. Not the case with TW 4.3
It's the rom, and it's apps and your apps.
How about installing Better Battery Stats and posting a few screenshots?
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Cheers for that. I'm aware of the obvious basic stuff affecting battery use like cutting down the number of running apps (hence why I use all in one, no bloat etc) but no little about kernels or their battery related benefits.
That app sounds good, I'll stick it on today and then happily post a few screenshots for you to look through. I've just had a look and it's a paid app - bearing mind I'm only needing the use of this once or twice are there any similar free ones.
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Cheers for that. I'm aware of the obvious basic stuff affecting battery use like cutting down the number of running apps (hence why I use all in one, no bloat etc) but no little about kernels or their battery related benefits.
That app sounds good, I'll stick it on today and then happily post a few screenshots for you to look through. I've just had a look and it's a paid app - bearing mind I'm only needing the use of this once or twice are there any similar free ones.
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If you have zillion apps (like me), then they tend to update frequently, use more and more resources, and services.
I was astonished to see that some apps that i installed just in case - like ebay, skype, tripadvisor - and never used yet, - were running services and have put themselves into autostart!
if you are rooted and use autostarts utility, you can disable a lot of junk in the on start and after start events.
you will immediately see the difference in boot time.
i also deinstalled the apps mentioned above, and battery usage back to normal.
lisbon2004 said:
If you have zillion apps (like me), then they tend to update frequently, use more and more resources, and services.
I was astonished to see that some apps that i installed just in case - like ebay, skype, tripadvisor - and never used yet, - were running services and have put themselves into autostart!
if you are rooted and use autostarts utility, you can disable a lot of junk in the on start and after start events.
you will immediately see the difference in boot time.
i also deinstalled the apps mentioned above, and battery usage back to normal.
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Ok, for those new to these things I'll give you a brief run down of the 3 apps I keep mentioning to save people posting suggestions for things that they already do....
Nobloat (root) - delete (including permanently) any apps including system apps (get rid of the pre-installed bloatware.
All in one toolbox pro (there's a free version) - I use this to clean up my autostarts - I can determine which apps will load on boot - both user apps and system apps.
Greenify - hibernates apps rather than killing them so they don't then autostart. There's also a way to have apps brought out of hibernation if their push notifications come through.
All in all, 3 very useful apps.
Feel free to mention any other ones to help things run a little smoother.
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Ok, for those new to these things I'll give you a brief run down of the 3 apps I keep mentioning to save people posting suggestions for things that they already do....
Nobloat (root) - delete (including permanently) any apps including system apps (get rid of the pre-installed bloatware.
All in one toolbox pro (there's a free version) - I use this to clean up my autostarts - I can determine which apps will load on boot - both user apps and system apps.
Greenify - hibernates apps rather than killing them so they don't then autostart. There's also a way to have apps brought out of hibernation if their push notifications come through.
All in all, 3 very useful apps.
Feel free to mention any other ones to help things run a little smoother.
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Do what i did, i bought a 6000mah mbuynow battery off ebay which seems to be around 4000mah true. It lasts about 90% more than the stock battery. im still not impressed with the battery life as phones these days can achieve the 8 hours of screen on time that i get with my extended battery with there stock batterys. i9300 has better battery life for some reason even though my i9305 is undervolt and underclock
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Do what i did, i bought a 6000mah mbuynow battery off ebay which seems to be around 4000mah true. It lasts about 90% more than the stock battery. im still not impressed with the battery life as phones these days can achieve the 8 hours of screen on time that i get with my extended battery with there stock batterys. i9300 has better battery life for some reason even though my i9305 is undervolt and underclock
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That sugestion is completly wrong. A 6000mAh battery is huge and adds a lot of weight and bulkiness to the phone.
Exactly! it's perfectly viable to live with a standard battery on our device, if you use a right rom and de-bloat.
Say no to bulk! ))
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I've had my captivate for over a year now, with mixed results.
Honestly i love the phone, and if i could work out my issues, probably can go another year without having to get a new phone.
My biggest problems are the battery, and the bugs.
When i bought my phone my battery life was ok. When i finally put a custom rom on and re-calibrated my battery, i would go as far as to say it was pretty good. (I even have a screen shot from the good ol days when i would go to work, and come home, and it would say something like - unplugged for 11 hours, and i would be at ~70 percent)
Now on an average day, i leave for work at about 630 and when i get out at 2 its usually down to 20-30 percent. I actually own 2 captivates and its the same case with both of them.
I dont understand what is different now from before. Ive actually tried the old roms which i got such good battery life from (serendipty 6.2 i think, and cognition) and still its terrible now.
I have recently used apex, cyanogenmod, miui, GR12, and maybe a few other, all with terrible battery and bugs.
Thats the next issue, the bugs are getting to a point where the phone is almost unusuable.
Many times google voice has just failed on me. Ill get out of work and see no texts, my data will work, so i figured theres no problem, but then ill restart my phone and everything will come in.
Im currently using apex, so thats my biggest problem with bugs, but cyanogenmod/miui were really bad.
Then theres the ugly, which is when my battery goes in super drain mode. Itll go down 1 percent every 2-3 mins sometimes, and the only way to halt the super drain is to plug it in for a few mins
I dont get what the difference is from then to now, but i was wondering if anyone else experiences these issues.
Maybe its the way im flashing or something, i dont really know anymore.
Any suggestions?
Have you seen which process/app is eating your battery? Could possibly be an app from market causing this
what is it you need from a custom rom? i've found i get the best battery life and stability from stock samsung roms, ie KH3. CM7 was wiped about 15 minutes after flashing.. it seems very experimental on the captivate, definitely no way i'd be able to use that as a daily rom
I had the same issue when i was using CM7. more battery drain on standby. Now i m using KH3, there is no battery drain on standby.
Try KH3 based ROM, if you are losing battery on standby
Well havent tried a KH3 rom yet, but i think apex is js7 based, which is an official rom.
I agree CM7 was very buggy, but ive seen the same with apex.
Honestly I used to get awesome battery life with cognition, and i reflashed that same rom, and now it sucks.
The only apps i have installed are:
adobe reader
beautiful widgets
colornote
docs 2 go
google voice
maps
pandora
screenshot
titanioum backup
zeam launcher
My biggest reasons for using a custom rom are:
tethering
adblocking
not as laggy (RFS)
screenshots
maybe a few more
I would glady give it up though if i could get some good battery life, and no bugs.
Am i better off just going back to stock jf6 and letting my phone update automatically?
Or should i try out a kh3 based rom? or just KH3 Stock?
i'm getting the best battery life from kh3. js7 is an i9000 rom that is not specifically optimized for the captivate so it may not be as good as kh3. regarding reasons for custom roms, i have all of that (except RFS) on the stock rom using these apps: adfree, screenshot er, open garden wifi tether -- all work great
Js7 is froyo.
apex is jvr gingerbread.
Both I9000 firmware.
Idk what you mean by "optimized for our device" but let me just say from personal experience that porting I9000, we don't just grab a firmware and theme it. There is coding to make it work. Plus I9000 has this thing called SOURCE CODE so that you can have a much more customizable kernel, instead of the time it takes to reverse engineer a kernel and then try to add things to it.
All in all custom roms will always be better than stock, because they take stock and improve on it. Also there is no such thing as bug free as every one uses their phone differently with different apps that may effect the phone in odd ways. You will have to just experiment and see what works best for you and your phone.
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let me just say from personal experience that porting I9000, we don't just grab a firmware and theme it. There is coding to make it work. Plus I9000 has this thing called SOURCE CODE so that you can have a much more customizable kernel, instead of the time it takes to reverse engineer a kernel and then try to add things to it.
All in all custom roms will always be better than stock, because they take stock and improve on it. Also there is no such thing as bug free as every one uses their phone differently with different apps that may effect the phone in odd ways. You will have to just experiment and see what works best for you and your phone.
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i don't see how a modified i9000 (J**) rom/kernel could ever have better battery life or general stability than a stock K** rom on the captivate. the way i look at it, there is a great value in having root on the phone, but not so much in having a custom rom. i just haven't stumbled on any rom that will give me a better experience than stock while at the same time keep the battery life. i've tried quite a few.
this is coming from a standpoint where battery life and stability are a priority
Hello all,
since I'm tired fighting with
- the Android OS percentage battery usage (always over 70% with display at 10%);
- the events/0 - suspend processes always ontop of BetterBattery's stats
I'd like to go for a GINGERBREAD aosp rom, with S-PEN working.
Any suggestion? I don't want any of the samsung apps installed since I'm fairy sure they are the ones that are ruining everything.
If you have a solution to lower the Android Os % and events/0 - suspend process' battery consumption, let me know.
I tried these:
- factory reset;
- removing system apps such as samsung wifi sharing. I've seen a thread that talked about removing samsungsuna.apk and others, but I didn't even find them in my system/app directory
- used green power. But seriously, I don't want to use something that limits my connectivity. I want something that lowers the android OS and events/0 - suspend %!
It can't be my brand new (rooted) Samsung Galaxy Note lasting less than the 2 years old HTC Desire. On the second there's flashed an aosp rom, that's why I thought putting ans aosp rom on the note aswell.
Thanks for your answers!
What AOSP ICS rom did you use ?
To get rid of Android OS battery drain, install SetCPU and change governor to ondemand. The default seems to be userspace which keeps a static ~800mhz cpu - and that is what's draining your battery.
As for S-Pen, it is working in ICS. You just need some apps to utilize it.
But if that doesn't help and you want GB - i'd suggest TeamRocket ROM - people tend to choose this one.
Acutally I didn't use any ICS rom, i'm waiting for the official one. By now i prefer sticking with the GB one.
Actually now i'm trying TeamRocket with Franco's kernel (I wonder which is better for battery life, wether Franco's or Abyss').
And about the battery drain: I stayed for long time in Deep Sleep state, but the Android OS was always topping my stats. Installing this kernel, it's not happening anymore, and both events/0 and suspend troubles seem to be gone.
Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
letters_to_cleo said:
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
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Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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SunHounD said:
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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Thanks for such a quick reply.
I'll tell you the scenario, as quick as i can make it.
had the phone 2 weeks, got it on a 24mnth contract ( i know, sigh)
anyway, updated it to JB (4.1.2?) through LG pc suite, but thought the battery life seemed to be worse, so i downgraded with LG flash tool, to ics.
after a F/reset, i rooted, then F/Reset again, but it seemed sluggish.
the long and short of it is, ive gone up to JB twice, and down to ICS twice, rooted and unrooted twice, disabled a whole HOST of stock bloatware, and am still left with similar results as posted in the pics.
ATM ive a clean ICS and im at a loss as to what to do. ive been reading all the threads about improving battery, culling the bloatware apps etc before i decided to post.
as for bootloader, i will probably do that sometime in the future, when im more knowledgeable on the subject. at present, i dont want to be left with a 2 year contract to a brick
thanks again,
ps: you say better battery stats is better than battery stats plus?...will download now, thanks
Sun
interesting situation. it's strange that sluggishness persisted between factory resets and .dz flashes back to 10x version.
first off, how does the phone behave when you're not using it? is it draining battery bad? is it going into deep sleep? what are the percentages of cpu states (you can check this in better battery stats, as battery stats plus seems to be too clunky for me to read proper info)?
if it's deep sleeping properly, then yeah, the issue is with something sucking up the juice while screen is on. next off, check cpu states - if it's locked at 1.5ghz often, when you have screen on but doing nothing, it's significant info.
what i've noticed with display, you can count up to 3:30 hours of onscreen time with stock rom (this is with very conservative use of wifi and data during this period, and no heavy gaming for example) - that's around 200 minutes of on screen time, meaning you should get around 2 minutes of screen on per 1% of reduction in battery - how far are you from this result?
i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
I would go the other way to be honest. If you do a full factory reset, install no apps, no Google account or anything and still get a similar problem with the battery drain then I would take the phone back for replacement as that is abnormal.
No point running a risk with your warranty when might be a hardware fault.
It's midnight here now so can't really test it till.morning now. When phone is in standby, it seems to hold.its juice ok. I'm sat here now, with nothing switched on except WiFi, screen at 23% brightness , and am just using tapatalk and I'm getting 2-3 mins per 1% screen. Less if I play in the menus. First thing tomorrow, I'll reset the phone again, before dl'ing any apps. Then I'll only download BBS and see how I get on. I'll also.monitor battery loss over night.
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after i wrote the above last night, i decided to watch a movie on my phone in bed.(headphones, dont wanna disturb the missus ) and i managed to watch a movie of 2hrs 10 mins, with 23% battery drain, on stock video player, yet just browsing through the phones menus/ light web surfing, eats the juice like crazy.
left phone off charge over night, and didnt even have a 1% drop in 7 hours (wifi off,sync off, data always off(dont use it)) and phone set to 2g mode
Sun
current set up
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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you can leave it alnoe during night to check if it deep sleeps properly, right now you're interested in cpu states option in bbs, to see if it uses too much cpu when doing normal tasks such as surfing, reading, watching/listening media etc. your goal is to get over 2 mins per 1% drain (in the end, over 3 hours of onscreen time with no heavy gaming). with those stats, your can say that your phone is draining normally, just that lg reports stupid stuff (f.e., stock roms report screen as using 20% of the battery, while in reality screen is using waaay more, the most actually)
Thanks Flying_Bear, I'll refrain from doing any more resets etc for the rest of the day, see how the readings progress and post on that tomorrow, after overnight analysis.
This piece of one of your previous posts just stuck in my mind:
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i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
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TBH, from everything I've been reading on it, it kind of scared me off the subject, but to see you say it was less complicated than what I've already done, has got me to thinking.
The biggest thing for me at the minute, before considering that, it to rule out faulty hardware. At least if thats the case, i still have warranty intact.
Is the performance increase really that noticeble after flashing custom kernels/roms?
Thanks again for your time,
Sun
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
I think the only reason I would consider custom roms, is a performance increase.... If it wont give me one, then I see no point in going down that route.
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i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
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Totally agree, its why I refuse to enable data in the first place.
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
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when I took the original screenies, in OP, I didnt really have much in the way of apps on it. I'd not long before done a clean flash, then removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
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you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
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At first yes... hey it was a new toy at the time. Novelty wore off about day 3 though.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
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yeah, it handled a movie quite well, I was quite pleased with this. When i said messing with the menu, I just meant exploring the phone; no custom/3rd party launchers, no messing with Dev stuff.
At the minute now, the only extra apps on my phone are XDA Dev app, tapatalk4, BBS, TB-pro and root uninstaller pro.
Oh, and can I ask.... aside form the ability to "pimp" your phone out, or the extra customization, is there any benefit to flashing custom roms? As it cant be for better performance....
thanks
Sun
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no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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Hi Flying_ Bear, can you pl confirm what combo of rom and kernel is giving you 3 hr 37 min of screen on time and which ones to avoid (ones that gave you 2 hrs)?
Carbon rom 4.2.2 version with iodak v7 had the best onsceen. Id say stock was worst, 2hrs 45mins of onscreen with no gaming and low brightness, with stock kernel
Hey guys,
unfortunately there are no custom roms that fit my preferences. i took a deep look at the MXROM V8.0.0 and the Rock Z1L 4.0, but these two roms are not what i'm searching for. I want a rom that is really stable and doesn't run out of battery midday.
So i want to return back to Stock.
i would like to know how i get the best experience using the .236 stock rom in terms of battery life and smoothness.
What mods or apps can i use to have the best battery life and remove those annoying wakelocks?
What mods or apps can i use to have a lag free rom?
thanks in advance!
Khaludi
Z1 C6903 locked bootloader
What do you expect to hear?
My answer is: there is no global solutions we can give to your question. There are so many things you can do.
It all begins how you use your phone. Do you need the performance the phone offers all the time?
For example in my case no. I am no gamer at all. I use my phone the friendly way. Do some calls, some messaging, browse the Web, taking some photos. So I limit the phones cpu performance to 1.4 GHz. This for example saves battery.
Lollipop has got the active radio bug. You can get rid off it with the help of xposed framework.
You can for example Greenify apps to prevent high wakelocks.
Did you notice a massive difference between stock and MX in terms of battery? I tried both and had no noticeable difference.
Thank you for your replies!
I usually use my phone for browsing the internet, instant messaging, calling and 9gag. I'm not using my phone for games. Usually my screenbrightness is on very low.
With MX rom i had big drops while my phone was on stand by (from 70% to 63% in 4 hours). Screen on time was worse. Before i was on stock .216 and there was no big battery drops at all!
Greenyfy is a good start! What xposed module are you talking about for the radio active bug?
khaludi said:
Thank you for your replies!
I usually use my phone for browsing the internet, instant messaging, calling and 9gag. I'm not using my phone for games. Usually my screenbrightness is on very low.
With MX rom i had big drops while my phone was on stand by (from 70% to 63% in 4 hours). Screen on time was worse. Before i was on stock .216 and there was no big battery drops at all!
Greenyfy is a good start! What xposed module are you talking about for the radio active bug?
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Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3188147
khaludi said:
Thank you for your replies!
I usually use my phone for browsing the internet, instant messaging, calling and 9gag. I'm not using my phone for games. Usually my screenbrightness is on very low.
With MX rom i had big drops while my phone was on stand by (from 70% to 63% in 4 hours). Screen on time was worse. Before i was on stock .216 and there was no big battery drops at all!
Greenyfy is a good start! What xposed module are you talking about for the radio active bug?
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First of all, if you still have the original battery, it probably has lost at least 50% of its holding capacity or more. Second, when you say stand by, you are not telling us what apps or services are running. Third, the major contributors to wasting battery are Google apps, facebook, what's up and similar apps. Next comes sony bloat with all their albums and other crap. So, if you have them, your battery won't last.
I have used stock and all available custom roms. With the exception of a worse camera quality in low light conditions (no difference whatsoever in daylight), custom roms are vastly superior in all aspects. That also includes overheating. Yes, stock roms overheat more, because they won't let you use tools available in custom roms.
Greenify: although, it does the job, the app itself consumes battery, which negates the benefits. Also, remember that when you flash every other day, you don't give your current rom the time to settle, and that usually takes a couple of battery cycles when the rom works extra time setting/reading partitions and as a result, you will always have more heat and loss of battery juice. You won't let the rom settle and instead move to another rom and start the cycle again. This way, you will never find a suitable rom whether stock or custom.
If you prefer stock, then root, get rid of bloat, get a firewall and deny access to all apps, except the ones you want to connect to the internet. And stay with it for at least 10 days. But then, I promise, you will discover what I said above is true...
P.S. Radio active bug: the module does NOT fix the problem, it just changes the way it is reported. This is why neither Google nor Cyanogen people have accepted the patches, which irritated the hell out of that guy, who thinks he knows "the inner workings of android" better than others....
wow thanks a lot bredrin! Gonna try this when i reach home, except advanced kernel. I'm on locked bootloader.