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recently my camera failed and the x1 went back to Sony, I've now had an email saying the phone is unrepairable and I have to pay £10 to have it returned unfixed.
I called them up and they say the mainboard is bent and not covered under warranty. The case is perfect, the screen is perfect and the phone has never been dropped etc.. They said this can happen even when the phone is in a pocket or bag but classed as accidental damage so not covered. They also said it's not a replacement part and I would need to buy a whole new phone, even if I was happy to pay for repair myself.
Is this right? Do they have to prove it was dropped? Is there no way of getting this fixed even if it costs me? Who can I complain to about this?
Thanks for any advice you can give..........
What country do you live in? And has this issue happened within 6 months?
If in the UK, you may be covered by 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979' if you believe the phone was not of satisfactory quality (plus a few others reasons). However as far as I know, this would protect you from the seller, not SE.
Put simply, goods are expected to last a reasonable amount of time within normal usage (which i would argue means keeping within your pocket). If it breaks within 6 months, it is the sellers responsibility to prove that it was fit for use at the time it was sold (very hard for them to do if others are working fine). After 6 months you have another 5.5 years (4.5 years in Scotland) where you are still protected but it your responsibility to prove the goods were unfit at the time of sale.
Might be worth a shot. Info can be found on the website for BBCs Watchdog TV program: http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/consumer_law_sale_of_goods_emp.shtml
thanks for that, unfortunately i've had it for about 9 months so SOGA won't be easy for me to prove. I just cant get how they say it has been damaged by me, there's no signs of dropping, the phone is absolutely mint! I'm very mad indeed
the same thing has just happened to me with vodafone in the uk.
phone was sent back to the service centre as some of the keys on the right-hand side of the keyboard were working intermittantly which i believe is a common issue.
the phone was returned to me with a blurry picture of what may or may not be the inside of my phone saying that the phone had been damaged and was not covered by warranty. my phone has never been dropped and has been very well take care of. :-(
I have asked that they escalate my complaint and I'll be getting a call back tomorrow but I don't hold out too much hope. Not quite sure what too do after that but I wont stop there, considering the cost of the phone originally it's taking the p***
sounds shocking. Good luck mate and what country are you in?
I have just picked my phone up from an o2 store after sending it off for repair, the keys only worked intermittently (as previously posted) along with a few other issues. I received t.he handset back with a "Beyond Economical Repair" diagnosis, claiming that i had somehow bent and cracked the motherboard due to physical damage. I had to instead claim from o2 insurance costing me £25. I think in the future its much better to contact Sony Ericsson directly.
I'm in the UK and today had a call back from the escalations team who just confirmed what I was told yesterday, basically bent board, not our problem, buy a new one. They will send it back for free though which I'm supposed to be grateful for.
I'm now going to take it to their director of support, when you look at the 1000+ posts about the cracks and another 2 replies in this thread about the 'bent mainboard' the manufacture of this phone is questionable to say the least and goes a long way to prove the sale of goods act 'unfit for purpose' rule. I'm happy to take this to civil court if needs be........I'm a principals man and I'm seriously pi**ed...
Can you send it back to Sony? Sony repaired my damaged screen/cracked casing for free in about 7 days
i think it depends on country, in my they even charge me changin the case, becouse "they didnt get any input about cracks in case". i show them xda thread with numeros complaining and no luck, had to pay...
I recently sent the phone back to change the keyboard and upgrading of firmware. I had to wait 3 weeks for a keyboard cos they went out of stock for it.
They even changed my cover that had some scratches without even me asking. Also the D-pad was changed cos of some peeling.
I thought that they gave me a reburbished set so I checked the IMEI, its ok. They even offered me an extended warranty program where I pay around 70SGD and it covers even accessories like headphones and such for a one-to-one exchange scheme.
This is SE Singapore Support.
Has anyone been able to dispute a repair charge and does anyone know if there would be charges if the power button was not working?
I just want to share my story and am wondering if investing $400 of repair charges on top of a $530 phone is worth it.
4/7/10 - Purchased N1 (Compatible with 3G on AT&T U.S.) from Google Webstore.
6/7/10 - Begin having 3G data & phone signal loss in New Orleans. Contacted AT&T and was told they were having tower issues in the area. Spent one week using 2G instead.
6/13/10 - Went to AT&T store to check on service. Got a brand new SIM card that worked on another phone. At this point, carrier issue has been ruled out
6/14/10 - Phoned N1 support, performed a master reset and then got transferred to HTC for warranty support. It was either replacement or repair. Chose replacement option.
6/17/10 - Received replacement phone and shipped my original phone back to them the very next day.
6/23/10 - Received email for a $196(!) repair quotation. Phoned into HTC support and was told that it was a customer induced motherboard damage. I asked for more details on the damage & charge, and customer service said that they need information from the "warehouse" and get back to me. Never heard back from CS.
7/10/10 - New replacement phone shut off by itself and could not be powered back on.
7/11/10 - Called N1 support and performed master reset which did not work. Got transferred to HTC support but a case cannot be opened because the previous case was still outstanding. The customer serivce rep confirmed that the case notes stated that I had called for more information, and they were supposed to get back to me. I was told that I need to talk to a supervisor for further support and they do not work on weekends.
7/12/10 - Called HTC support and spoke to a supervisor. Basically she told me that my options are
my options are either to pay the $196 and close the case or wait up to 48 hours to get the details back from the "warehouse". Either way, no replacement can be processed until the previous case is closed. I was told that there is no way to:
1. Get the open case closed temporarily so a replacement for my current issue can be dealt with.
2. No other person beyond the supervisor(s) I can talk to.
3. No way to escalate to the wareshouse to speed up 48 hours needed on getting the previous repair details.
4. No one can do anything else for a customer who is going through an exception situation.
5. No clear instructions on how to dispute a repair quotation.
All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction. Here are somethings that I find completely unsatisfying. Neither phones have been rooted, tempered with, dropped, or water damage on neither device.
1. First let's talk about 2 defective phones.
2. Sending repair quote to customers demanding payment without more information is unacceptable.
3. Blaming customer for self-induced damange while there is a known 3G issue for the N1.
4. Not getting back to customer on repair details is also unacceptable.
5. Not being able to open more than one case is absurd. In my situation, we're dealing with 2 different issues but for some reason, one is related to the other in the system.
6. Where is the repair charge dispute process documentation?
7. The is no exception to the "normal" escalation process is a huge gap. Basically I was told that after the supervisor level, it goes to the "warehouse". No one can talk to the wareshouse without going through the 48 hour escalation process.
8. Tell customer that damage maybe water related when the battery has no record of such.
You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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Hi
I faced a similar situation as you. My power button went wonky and I sent it in to HTC for servicing. It was a very tiring ordeal for me.
The HTC support (in Singapore) kept insisting that my motherboard needed a replacement and they wanted to charge me for it as I had an unlocked bootloader and was unable to claim warranty.
I kept arguing with their phone support that I just wanted my power button fixed and I was skeptical that that required a motherboard replacement. They kept insisting that I needed to replace my motherboard in order fix the power button.
As I was getting nowhere with phone support( I spent 3 days arguing with them) I made a trip down to their service center to try to speak to the engineer actually servicing my phone.
Had a similar argument with the CSO there who repeated the same BS to me and finally said she will go inside and have the engineer come out to explain further. So I waited. After several minutes (of which i believe she was informing him that there was an angry customer outside), she emerged alone and said they will wave the charges for the button repair.
Do you know what disgusts me the most about this entire ordeal?
When i finally received my phone back from them, they repaired my power button but my boot loader remained unlocked!
They did not need to replace my motherboard!
IMO, HTC simply wanted to replace the motherboard cos I had an unlocked bootloader. What better way to make easy money then to milk me with an unnecessary but expensive repair simply cos I voided my warranty. It' s unethical and personally, HTC has lost any future business from me.
It ironic as I bought my phone from Google.
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You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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I'm putting my money on an unlocked bootloader
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
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All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction.
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Exactly my thought. I've had my phone repaired for almost a whole month now and I still have no hope of getting it back.
The customer service is nice but they are absolutely useless. Everything regarding the actual status of the phone has to be initiated by the escalation team or warehouse, and I highly doubt that they give a **** of the customers.
TangBiz said:
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
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Has this been resolved?
If you haven't unlocked the bootloader, then there's no reason to charge you for the repair. Definitely talk to a supervisor and don't be afraid to insist that the phone if fully covered under warranty and they need to replace the unit or repair it.
I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I'm getting my rooted/unlocked phone repaired for free. So yeah, it really is 50/50!
My headphone jack started wigging out and thinking there was a headset plugged in when there wasn't. I also explained that I started to see dust coming in underneath the screen in the bottom left corner.
I opted for a replacement. I got it the next day. New one is great. Bootloader was unlocked and no charge was issued.
I would be livid. How old was the original phone with the "broken motherboard"? April? Well all hardware defects are covered up to 1 year. If the phone casing shows no physical signs of abuse yet the motherboard is broken... then that is a ringer that it is a manufacture defect.... especially if you'd had the phone for 2 months.
If there are no signs of physical damage and the water sticker is clean then you have full entitlement to your warranty. This includes motherboard replacements.
Hi,
My Galaxy S had a faulty accelerometer since I bough it. I took it to Authorised Samsung Service Centre as advised by Samsung Helpline.
On 14/08 I've left my phone for repair in Service. On the same day the engineer called to say they couldn't repair it and they will send it to Samsung Service on the 16/08 and it takes up to 10 working days to get it back. So the phone was send by an authorised service centre on 16/08/10 should be back with me, within 10 working days, which means I should get the phone back no later then 31/08, as 30/08 was bank holiday.
On the 02/08 I contacted Samsung to get the information on the repair and whey there is a delay, and I get the following answer:
"Regarding your case, kindly note that your call to us was made on the
25th of August 2010 when the service request was processed into the
system. Then it takes 2 Business days to receive the jiffy bag, once you
send out the jiffy bag it should take 5- 10 business days to receive
your phone back. You should be receiving your phone back on time."
But the thing is I didn't call them on the 25/08, I didn't receive any jiffy bags and I didn't send anything to them as the phone was send by their authorised service centre.
I'm over 3 weeks without the phone and without the hope that I get it soon, as following their line I will probably get around 13-14th September (1 month since I took it for repair). For me this is an appalling customer service and it is unacceptable.
It takes forever for them to answer any queries, and if they finally do, their response in no way answers the query. If I try to call them , Im lucky to get through in 20 minutes, and they it's almost impossible to get the competent person to talk to.
I am seriously disgusted with them to the limits.
Did anyone else also experience similar problems with them?
i would say yes
i got the phone the very first day it was released
it got bricked
called their customer service/tech support
they said we don't take care of that
go back to your cell phone provider to service it.....
I was left speechless to say the least.
it's been almost 6+ week since i sent my phone back to my phone company and still no word of it.
Horrible support from Samsung.
if it were not because it's the only phone in the market, with the top end hardware, i would have already switch to another phone maker just because they decided not to support me.
I had somethinge similar, I emailed them about my gps and lag, well they just ignored me, and i send that email like 3 or 4 times...
I really dislike bad costumer services!!
They really loosing a big time as a result of their disgraceful customer service. They have some great products and they would sell as twice as many if they could only provide honest, respectful and reliable customer service. This can't be that hard.
I received similar customer service from HTC a few years back for my P4000. "Oh your from Canada!" " "You have to contact Telus for service"
Five ....yes five units later I got an acceptable swap.
Panasonic is another gem to deal with... horrible service.
I agree with the statement ...Samsung Customer Service, it's TERRIBLE. That being said, there are ways of rattling the higher ups cages, with emails and phone calls. They really hate to be bothered with service issues. This is the one and ONLY way I have ever received any type of "support" from Samsung.
Also, once I did receive the support, they were extremely quick in rectifying my issue(s).
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It takes forever for them to answer any queries, and if they finally do, their response in no way answers the query. If I try to call them , Im lucky to get through in 20 minutes, and they it's almost impossible to get the competent person to talk to.
I am seriously disgusted with them to the limits.
Did anyone else also experience similar problems with them?
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i would say yes
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With all due respect, this just seems to me like standard run-around customer service from most big companies, nothing really horrible or unexpected from what I have heard at all.
If you want a story about bad customer service, I can tell you my story about Acer.
Laptop died, ok, so laptops die. Ship it to Acer in Ontario for warranty because they have no walk-in depots (??). Two weeks later, get it back, original problem is fixed, but now they have installed a French keyboard and made the screen hinges squeak (???). File new issue, have to mail it away AGAIN, get it back, keyboard is now English again, but hinges STILL squeak, and now the PCMCIA slot cover is broken. Third time, mail it away again, finally, comes back issues repaired.
Total time without a working laptop? Two months.
Stay AWAY FROM ACER! The service depot seems more dangerous than a construction site.
In my experience, no. Try dealing with Virgin Media's Customer Service if you really want to experience incompetence in abundance. That said, I've had to deal with Samsung CS numerous times this week and only once have I gotten through to someone helpful...
Auth service centers are not same as true samsung service centre. Auth service centers just do basic repairs and if they can't they log it via samsungs online or tel helpdesk. Auth centers can be any company that passes samsungs tech tests. Its not samsung you are dealing with at the centers but a normal repair business. Its same with any company as they can't afford to have repair centers everywhere except big cities/countries
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My experience is the exact opposite. I find that Samsung customer service is way better than HTC (my last few phones).
When my Galaxy S was bricked because I flashed an CDMA ROM onto my phone, I brought it in to Samsung service centre to repair.
Surprise no. 1
The service centre said it will try to reflash my FW and told me to come back in an hour's time. An hour! At HTC, you wait for days just for them to flash your ROM
Surprise no. 2
When I went back in 1 hour, they told me that they failed to reflash the phone and have to replace the motherboard. Phone will be sent in to Samsung. Told me to come back 3 days later. I was skeptical. At HTC, changing motherboard literally means a wait of at least 2 weeks (if you are lucky). But 3 days later, the phone was ready for my collection.
Surprise no. 3
I was told that the repair is free, under warranty. This was despite the fact that I was willing to pay for the repair. I mean, c'mon, the phone was flashing an AT&T splashscreen. At HTC, they void your warranty even if they detected you have hardSPL your device.
So all in all, my first experience with Samsung customer service is very positive.
Even if they gave me defected phones, the customer center here has already replaced 2 phones for me. I'll be getting the 3rd replacement today, hopefully it has 3 button downloads mode.
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My experience is the exact opposite. I find that Samsung customer service is way better than HTC (my last few phones).
When my Galaxy S was bricked because I flashed an CDMA ROM onto my phone, I brought it in to Samsung service centre to repair.
Surprise no. 1
The service centre said it will try to reflash my FW and told me to come back in an hour's time. An hour! At HTC, you wait for days just for them to flash your ROM
Surprise no. 2
When I went back in 1 hour, they told me that they failed to reflash the phone and have to replace the motherboard. Phone will be sent in to Samsung. Told me to come back 3 days later. I was skeptical. At HTC, changing motherboard literally means a wait of at least 2 weeks (if you are lucky). But 3 days later, the phone was ready for my collection.
Surprise no. 3
I was told that the repair is free, under warranty. This was despite the fact that I was willing to pay for the repair. I mean, c'mon, the phone was flashing an AT&T splashscreen. At HTC, they void your warranty even if they detected you have hardSPL your device.
So all in all, my first experience with Samsung customer service is very positive.
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same experience for me too.... infact i think i have used more than 5 different high end phones from samsung for past 2 years.. and i had a good experience with the service as compared to other companies .. once i had bricked my samsung omnia i900 and they replaced the mother board free of cost under warranty (without a single question) and that too in 2 days time... and now the staff there know me well and give me a priority in case i have any problem, thats why i prefer samsung mobiles than any other company
and on the other hand i had a Motorola handset which i dropped in the water.. and after that it never showed the network but when i took it to the service center , they told me that this problem cannot be solved .. as they dont even have mother boards and in the process they damaged the screen.. and handed over the phone to me saying that it was already with a damaged screen... now i had to fight with them and get a screen replacement just to use it as an ipod/music player... and i had to pay Rs 200 ..just for nothing they said it was a service charge..
Nice, But it all depends on the guy and service centre. They can sometimes suprise you
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Nice, But it all depends on the guy and service centre. They can sometimes suprise you
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QFT.
People seem to often think that companies are a giant automaton. But in reality they are just collections of individuals. The luck of the draw when you get assigned a service person is a huge factor. The sad part is, the excellent service people usually end up being promoted away from the front lines.
offtopic (but in relation to topic title): all your base are belong to us.
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I dont see what the problem is. The problem the TS speaks off is common practice from all big companies. The law (at least in Holland) saids that if your buyed product is defective within your warranty period, you should go back to the SELLER to get your phone fixed or exchanged or sent to repair centre/manufactury.
It has no use to call Samsung, cause they wont be able to help you with this. Every company in the phone business will give you the same answer.
My experience is to get your phone fixed in repair centres. Official or non-official. I have a SGS too, but in the past i had different phones. When i wanted to fix my Nokia with the seller, they said it would take weeks before i would get it back.
Then i went to a repair centre who is working with Nokia and they repaired it in 30 minutes. If you send your phone for repair, it will take weeks with every company on the market. If you get it fixed in a repair centre, max 1 day
The story dat Samsung has bad customer service, is just a story people tell you because they heard someone else who heard someone else said that.
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offtopic (but in relation to topic title): all your base are belong to us.
Hahaha smartarse. U sound like a redditor like me
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They really loosing a big time as a result of their disgraceful customer service. They have some great products and they would sell as twice as many if they could only provide honest, respectful and reliable customer service. This can't be that hard.
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I agree, there customer service is the worst ever, I have sent my Galaxy tablet off to them twice now and they have not repaired the intial fault..I will never ever bay another Samsung product ever again..I am thinking of taking them to court..glad to see am not alone!
try 3
i have to say that compared to 3uk samsung are excellent , i recieved a call from them today about a problem i had, they may not fix all problems that second but the customer service team have kept in touch updated me as to what is going on and what they are doing,and as they themselves dont fix the problem they are just the point of contact so far they have done an excellent job.
now if the problem gets fixed is another matter
I have mobile phone and gadget insurance included with my bank account and recently had to use it as my HTC HD2 went faulty.
I am a fairly experienced ROM flasher and have been creating my own WM 6.5 based ROMs for a while. When the fault started to happen (signal deteriorating and then constantly searching, sometime coming back after a soft reset, sometimes not) I spent a couple of days trying to resolve the issue myself. This included factory resetting, restoring the official ROM, installing a myriad of Radio ROMs, cleaning the internal GSM antenna contacts etc. All to no avail so I was pretty certain it was a hardware fault.
Lifestyle Services Group are the providers of the insurance and repair services and what a palaver. I sent it back in October and included a detailed description of the fault. It was returned a week later and as far as I can tell completely untouched with a note saying repaired. It wasn't. I contacted them and they apologised and said they would send out a pre-paid envelope and I should return it in this. When it arrived I thought 'oh no' as the pre-paid address had '2nd Return' written on it - obviously quite common for them not to get repaired first time then?
It has just arrived this morning and they have now removed the screen protector but the handset is still faulty It looks like they have tried to make it look like a new handset - one acronym IMEI? I contacted them and they said 'sorry we'll replace it now as it has been returned twice, here is a different department to send it to. Can you put a note in with the repair reference and what the postal cost is so we can refund it'
Now if only the Royal Mail online thing was working.....
Rant over
Andy
It's unlikely to be your insurance company doing the repair so I wouldn't pin the blame on them. They will have a contract with a company, probably OEM, to repair faults. Now you mention HTC; take a look at BBC's Watchdog site and take note on HTC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2011/10/htc_phones.html
In all fairness they have been reasonably quick to return the phone, however it is the total lack of doing anything with it or at least providing a report of what they supposedly did with it that is annoying. I received a generic letter both times I got it back that stated something like 'your phone has been repaired and tested based on the faults you outlined to us' There is no evidence that they have even taken it apart or even a fault report from the engineer who 'repaired' it.
I am sure they receive a lot of handsets that all they require is a factory-reset or a new battery, however I went out of my way to troubleshoot the issue and arrived at the conclusion that it was a hardware fault. I returned it to them as stock and factory reset with a detailed explanation of the fault included so they should have at least taken this into consideration when looking at the fault.
If I get another fault (when I eventually get a working phone back...) I will just say I lost it and put it in the bin rather than go through this again.
Andy
Well i am with LSG and when i dropped my zte blade in coke then claimed they couldn't fix it,i wanted the same phone again as i liked it but nope they couldn't offer me that i was given a crap selection! Was disappointed they couldn't offer the same phone. I just hope they don't do that to me in future!
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I purchased an LG G4 H811 on EBAY for $129. The phone had a manufacturing date of 2015 June, I believe.
I received the phone, charged it overnight, and turned it on. The phone went through setup and asked for my GMail and password. After connecting to my wireless router, I allowed the phone to update/install all of my apps.
The phone worked GREAT! Just like my G3 only snappier......About two hours later, I left my home and walked about two miles to a local drugstore. I called a friend to tell him about my phone and how nice it felt and performed. I noticed the phone felt hot, but I was outside at noon so I thought nothing of it. I got home and nothing was responding so I pulled the battery. Upon booting, the phone BOOTLOOPED! Crap........
I pulled the battery again. The phone booted normally this time but ran slowly and locked up again, HOT!. Now the phone would never finish booting. Since I bought the phone from an EBAY member (STORE FRONT), I was certain it was refurbished. I called LG, got an RMA number and sent it in. The company received the phone and later responded that I would have to pay for the repair. The repair would cost $79. I called to pay the money because I thought I wanted the phone working once and for all, BOOTLOOPFREE...
A representative said they had decided to fix the phone free of charge under an extended warranty. WOW!! I never asked for this to be done, but the representative I talked to said it would be no problem but it would take a few days for the repair to be done and that I would receive a tracking number. How cool is this? I did not push, cry, scream or threaten. LG simply volunteered to fix the phone free after initially wanting money to do so. Perhaps some of you will have the same luck with your phones. Mine was clearly out of the one year warranty and I do not know if the phone was refurbished or not. All I know is that LG volunteered to do the repair THIS WEEK (April 27-May4) without any argument or request from me.
Good luck.........
you aren't the exception. I too had my phone repaired for free. And as far as im aware, lg has been doing this for the g4 for the past year or so.
both out of warranty.?
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I bought mine from ebay in early 2016. It bootlooped in December 2016 and i got it fixed in late january.
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I purchased an LG G4 H811 on EBAY for $129. The phone had a manufacturing date of 2015 June, I believe.
I received the phone, charged it overnight, and turned it on. The phone went through setup and asked for my GMail and password. After connecting to my wireless router, I allowed the phone to update/install all of my apps.
The phone worked GREAT! Just like my G3 only snappier......About two hours later, I left my home and walked about two miles to a local drugstore. I called a friend to tell him about my phone and how nice it felt and performed. I noticed the phone felt hot, but I was outside at noon so I thought nothing of it. I got home and nothing was responding so I pulled the battery. Upon booting, the phone BOOTLOOPED! Crap........
I pulled the battery again. The phone booted normally this time but ran slowly and locked up again, HOT!. Now the phone would never finish booting. Since I bought the phone from an EBAY member (STORE FRONT), I was certain it was refurbished. I called LG, got an RMA number and sent it in. The company received the phone and later responded that I would have to pay for the repair. The repair would cost $79. I called to pay the money because I thought I wanted the phone working once and for all, BOOTLOOPFREE...
A representative said they had decided to fix the phone free of charge under an extended warranty. WOW!! I never asked for this to be done, but the representative I talked to said it would be no problem but it would take a few days for the repair to be done and that I would receive a tracking number. How cool is this? I did not push, cry, scream or threaten. LG simply volunteered to fix the phone free after initially wanting money to do so. Perhaps some of you will have the same luck with your phones. Mine was clearly out of the one year warranty and I do not know if the phone was refurbished or not. All I know is that LG volunteered to do the repair THIS WEEK (April 27-May4) without any argument or request from me.
Good luck.........
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Was your data preserved after repair? And when you called what information do they ask after you tell them your having trouble with a LG G4 stuck in bootloop?
Did it have the same manufacture date when it was returned? Just wondering if they replaced the entire motherboard or just fixed it.
The one I bought on ebay was a 602 (February 2016) model. Rather than buying from a high-volume clearing house that couldn't be bothered, I bought from a private seller who volunteered the manufacture date. My brother has a 507 model he's still making payments on through T-Mobile. Hopefully LG's warranty extension for this issue will last until the bootloop bites him.
They repaired my wife's phone no questions asked. Didn't even need the proof of purchase. We bought it the month it was released so it was way out of warranty. Free shipping and everything. Took about a week.
Ken4G said:
They repaired my wife's phone no questions asked. Didn't even need the proof of purchase. We bought it the month it was released so it was way out of warranty. Free shipping and everything. Took about a week.
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Recently? And all data was saved?
Jaramirez said:
Recently? And all data was saved?
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Yes, about 3 weeks ago they did it. It was totally wiped. I set it up all through LG web chat. All I sent in was the phone with no backing, no SD card no Sim chip. They sent it back with a new board and wiped.
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Yes, about 3 weeks ago they did it. It was totally wiped. I set it up all through LG web chat. All I sent in was the phone with no backing, no SD card no Sim chip. They sent it back with a new board and wiped.
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Same mine is going out today also did everything through chat. I wonder if the new board is revised and won't cause the same issue anymore. Yeah figured they wipe everything because of privacy concerns.
This is the email I got from LG saying that the diagnostic showed that the phone was not charging with the cable... Wth that's not what I sent it in for. Mine was stuck boot looping so now I'm curious to know what you guys got for an email and what the diagnostics showed.
Apparently it's on it's way back to me I just hope that they fixed the boot loop too if not I'm going to be super ticked off!
So it appears as it may just be general terms used on emails but I got final email saying that the board was indeed swapped out as part of the repair so what a relief... Still wonder if the "new" boards are any better than the ones on the phone already. Hmm only time will tell.
My G4 is supposed to be here on Wednesday, in which they also told me they had to swap out the board. Not surprising since it went from bootlooping to not even turning on, which means all my data was lost. Makes me glad that pictures can be saved to SD at least. After trying to get it to boot to make a backup by using the freezer trick, it just decided to give up the ghost.
Props to LG though, since I made an RMA 2 months ago and only recently had the means to send it back. Turnaround time was quick too; I was expecting at least a month. I've been using a ZTE ZMax as a backup and while not awful, I wouldn't mind having my G4 back.
I plan on throttling the CPU this time so it doesn't get too hot, unless someone can tell me they fixed the issue and there's nothing to worry about now.
When you folks get your "new" boards back, make sure to run that LG Info app on the Play Market and show a screenshot of the info it provides including the motherboard date - I'm interested to see what that shows and not what might be printed on the actual board aka the silk-screening. I know they can change that info without many hassles with the hardware they have just like they can reprogram an old or new board with the same IMEI anytime they want so, I'm pretty curious to see what these new(er) boards are showing for info/revisions/etc.
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When you folks get your "new" boards back, make sure to run that LG Info app on the Play Market and show a screenshot of the info it provides including the motherboard date - I'm interested to see what that shows and not what might be printed on the actual board aka the silk-screening. I know they can change that info without many hassles with the hardware they have just like they can reprogram an old or new board with the same IMEI anytime they want so, I'm pretty curious to see what these new(er) boards are showing for info/revisions/etc.
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1) LG repaired my H811 in January. It was returned to me with data wiped *and* the IMEI and date of manufacture *did not* change.
2) There has only ever been the one revision 1.0 for the H811.
Some tips: I purchased a "Certified Refurbished" phone off Swappa in February of last year with a 505 serial number. The phone bootlooped in January, within the year of warranty. At least so far as the G4 is concerned LG has been providing warranty service under two circumstances: 1) If the date of the repair request in within 15 months of the serial number date, they are not requiring a receipt and they have fixed phones for free purchased from Swappa and Ebay or 2) if the date of repair is more than 15 months from the serial number date they will request a receipt if you initiate the repair online. If your receipt has any indication that the phone is used or refurbished they will not do the repair for free. In that instance, you should avoid providing a receipt. Many people have had their phones repaired without a receipt but if you are beyond the 15 months I'm not sure how you avoid that. My guess is that if you provide a Paypal receipt from Ebay, they will have no sure way of knowing whether or not the phone was purchased used and they don't ask. If you provide a screen shot of your Swappa sale, it may very well indicate the phone was used and they will charge for the repair.
So far my phone has worked perfectly. I did not mind paying the $79. I bought the phone knowing there was every chance it would bootloop. I like LG products when they work.
PS - About six months after LG repaired the phone they called me to say that it had been a mistake to charge me. They sent me a check for the entire amount. Yay!
I've had four G4 devices bootloop and been repaired without issues, all of them 505 models, all 4 of them within the past 7 months (so they're all outside the 15 month extended period), and not once has the 505 serial number been called into the situation at all - what matters is the date of actual purchase for a warranty claims.
AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon were still selling the G4 through February of this year (2017) so, all one has to do (with any carrier actually) is tell LG you bought the device in late 2016 and that's that, instant warranty coverage and they won't even hassle you for a receipt - at least they haven't in my experience of having G4's repaired by initiating the RMA using the online chat support.
The G4 is known to be defective, period, and as far as I'm concerned that makes every single one of them ever manufactured to be valid for a warranty claim and I don't give a damn about dates on a calendar or the first three digits of a serial number.
My G4 arrived today, but it's currently at home. I'll edit this post when I bring it with me tomorrow to get set up and rooted and nougated and give you the info you want.
The app and silkscreen match. It says 9/2015 as manufacture date.
Guess LG is scared of the class action lawsuit against then for this problem. So now they warranty anybody I guess. This won't stop the lawsuit though.
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Hello Folks,
I just wanted to add and make an update to this discussion
I got my phone of craiglist brand new back in Oct 2015. I had the issue of running extremely hot but never bootlooped for me until June of 2017, it just went dead and will not restart. Its the t mobile version. I googled to find a fix and read about other user experiences. I called LG and I made up a date of purchase to Oct 2016 and was able to get a rma from lg. I sent it in on June 6th and got it back 10 days later.
They claim in their repair info that they changed the mother board.
Well the phone now had additional issues such as
1) Will turn off and restart 5 times in 6 days
2) Will drop saved bluettooth connection
3) Running google map will cause to run hot
4) Using google map, pandora and bluetooth will cause it to restart and run hot
So in my opinion changing mother board does not fix the issue and with the replacement, what they are doing it is forcing the phone to restart when it gets hot based on my experience.
I sent the phone back and listed the various issues after experience 8 days of frustration since repair. Its been with them now for past 3 days and still under diagnostic and I am waiting to get it back.....
Based on what I read on this thread, wondering if anyone has a link to class action lawsuit that we can join? and for those who had their phone fixed/repaired...how is it running since and what carrier you are on?
Thanks
Update - I called LG after they received the phone last wednesday and it was sitting under diagnostic status. I asked the CS Rep when I will expect to get back. He looked up the same information that I saw on the website line to RMA. He then I guess sent a request for information and hour later I get a call from LG asking me what issues I am having as they did not find anything wrong with GPS, Bluetooth , I reminded them of my list and asked them to run bluetooth, gps and pandora at the same time and watch the phone heat up and shut down....he then thanked me and checked the status this afternoon and it moved a notch to in repair.......
Saga continues