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Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
buzmay said:
Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
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No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
IINexusII said:
No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
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But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
buzmay said:
But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
farang4u said:
Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
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Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
buzmay said:
Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
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As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
farang4u said:
As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
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But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
buzmay said:
But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
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You need custom recovery to run the rooting process. After your system is rooted you can then flash back to the stock recovery. You should still have root access but I could be wrong. Download "Root Checker" from the play store, run it to see if your device is still rooted. You still need a stock recovery to receive OTA updates though.
The reason you need stock recovery is that you can't install an official update with custom recovery. The type of recovery you have doesn't affect root access.
The reason you have to keep your system files perfectly stock is that an OTA is a patch, meaning it doesn't necessarily replace entire files but mainly snippets of code. If the system files are not stock, it can't do this properly. So it checks /system before running and stops if things are not perfectly stock.
You can get OTAs being rooted, you just can't install them unless you have stock recovery and a fully stock rom.
If you're stock on 4.2.2 right now, you can't s-off, so don't worry about that.
You don't have to flash a custom rom, but you can flash a stock rooted rom. With OTAs, you play the cat-and-mouse game. Can I root it? Did the HBOOT update and kill current S-OFF procedures?
If 4.3 does come out, all you would have to do is wait for a few days for a dev to cook a stock rooted 4.3 rom. AT&T always lags with updates, yet I have a fully functioning 4.2.2 M7 with LTE and no AT&T bloat all thanks to the devs who cook stock rooted roms.
I am relatively new to the HTC. I am running a Stock rooted image with TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery.
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there. I tried searching the forums but the search is down at the moment.
Here comes the Noob question : A little help please as I am not sure where to go next?
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
I found a few places with the pre-rooted stock ROM update, but it does not include the firmware update, that is a separate flashable zip, but I'm not sure how to update the "Full Firmware w/o hboot, boot, recovery" without S-off. I don't know if doing the "full firmware update" will mess up my recovery/root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767
generosity21 said:
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
I found a few places with the pre-rooted stock ROM update, but it does not include the firmware update, that is a separate flashable zip, but I'm not sure how to update the "Full Firmware w/o hboot, boot, recovery" without S-off. I don't know if doing the "full firmware update" will mess up my recovery/root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767
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I have been all over the forums looking at this and came up with squat.
If I take the OTA will I loose root? Can't seem to find an answer to that.
I was running an earlier version of twrp and thought that might be the issue but after updating twrp I am still at the same place. The sprint update notifications are still coming.
If I find something I will post it here.
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
jziggy101 said:
I am relatively new to the HTC. I am running a Stock rooted image with TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery.
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there. I tried searching the forums but the search is down at the moment.
Here comes the Noob question : A little help please as I am not sure where to go next?
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you can't flash the update with custom recovery installed, you need thev stock recovery image which is posted numerous times in this forum
jziggy101 said:
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there.
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You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
generosity21 said:
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
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You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
jziggy101 said:
If I take the OTA will I loose root? Can't seem to find an answer to that.
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Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
Aldo101t said:
you can't flash the update with custom recovery installed, you need thev stock recovery image which is posted numerous times in this forum
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Thanks for the replies. It's very confusing whether people are referencing the OTA update, or the tweaked, rooted downloadable update (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767). This forum should be friendly to questions when things are confusing.
Even with the two replies on this thread, it's still not clear to me if the downloadable (NOT OTA) updates can be flashed with a custom recovery, or what the procedure is for an S-On device regarding firmware and ROM updates. Sorry to offend anyone if they feel this has been answered somewhere in the forums, but it's still unclear to some of us.
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@PillowMetal Thanks for the very helpful reply. I guess the next question is, is it possible to get S-Off on 1.31.651.2 without losing everything?
Kraizk said:
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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If your not stock ota will mess you up big time. I just rooted my HTC one on sprint with the update that was on a swap out for bad speakers . Twrp isn't responsive if you use the one in toolkit. I downloaded 2.6.3 loaded it in the data folder of toolkit installed through the toolkit and bam... I got response out of Twrp. I'll find the link and post for you guys.
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generosity21 said:
@PillowMetal Thanks for the very helpful reply. I guess the next question is, is it possible to get S-Off on 1.31.651.2 without losing everything?
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Not without losing everything because it requires tricking your bootloader by writing to your misc partition, then running the 1.29 RUU - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7wls
This is the link for people who are stock and unlocking their phone. If you're using the toolkit put it in the data folder and rename to twrp. Be careful though the other files are the same name but in capital letters! Flash it and u will have responsive twrp and rooted 4.3 ota
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Anyone having poor reception?
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PillowMetal said:
Not without losing everything because it requires tricking your bootloader by writing to your misc partition, then running the 1.29 RUU - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
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Tried this once more, and successfully got S-off without downgrading anything, as a few others have reported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
Brand new device Stock 1.29 Rom Uninstalled SuperSU Unrooted for Updates
PillowMetal said:
You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
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Think I messed up a step in my attempt to return to unroot to be ready to get the 4.3 jellybean update. I was stock rom 1.29, rooted, SuperSU, twerp 2.6.3. Unlocked sim. I unistalled SuperSU using the full unroot option and relocked the bootloader. When the phone attempts to update it reboots into the bootloader straight into fastboot. Will not reboot and stay in hboot. Recovery option does nothing. Do I even want the ota 1.31? Do I just skip the OTA 1.31 and get the 4.3 jellybean update. I'm new first Android phone. Sorry for the idiocy I have portrayed here. Hope someone can help with knowledge of OTA's and Jellybean update. My problem seems so simple compared to all the other posts I read but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. Thanks everyone
upowersystems said:
Think I messed up a step in my attempt to return to unroot to be ready to get the 4.3 jellybean update. I was stock rom 1.29, rooted, SuperSU, twerp 2.6.3. Unlocked sim. I unistalled SuperSU using the full unroot option and relocked the bootloader. When the phone attempts to update it reboots into the bootloader straight into fastboot. Will not reboot and stay in hboot. Recovery option does nothing. Do I even want the ota 1.31? Do I just skip the OTA 1.31 and get the 4.3 jellybean update. I'm new first Android phone. Sorry for the idiocy I have portrayed here. Hope someone can help with knowledge of OTA's and Jellybean update. My problem seems so simple compared to all the other posts I read but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. Thanks everyone
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Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
Twerp to Stock recovery
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Darn, no I did not flash the stock recovery. Also I read another thread said I needed to unroot!lol So I was back tracing my steps to unroot, so I thought.. I did save the original backup before installing Twerp 2.6.3 and rooting so its in there if I can get to it. I really dont know how to proceed from here. There are no options in the bootloader to proceed.
Twerp vs Stock recovery
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Do I need to figure out how to flash or return to stock recovery from Twerp or can I simploy flash the 1.29 ruu back in to the device for a return to stock?
Twerp 2.6.3
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Kraizk said:
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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Maybe you can help. Will a re-install of the stock ruu 1.29 without removing twerp 2.6.3 and reverting to stock recovery cause issues.. Will this just completely re-install everything including stock Recovery or will twerp remain. I am running stock 1.29 rom, did save an original backup when I loaded twerp. How would I get in it to load it. Then I would not need to load the complete ruu. When I try for the ota it used to reboot to twerp. Since I unrooted it reboots to bootloader and there are NO options for load, Recovery option doesnt work. I have asked this question on several threads no one seems to know or its too simple for them to reply since I'm a newb. Thanks
upowersystems said:
Maybe you can help. Will a re-install of the stock ruu 1.29 without removing twerp 2.6.3 and reverting to stock recovery cause issues.. Will this just completely re-install everything including stock Recovery or will twerp remain. I am running stock 1.29 rom, did save an original backup when I loaded twerp. How would I get in it to load it. Then I would not need to load the complete ruu. When I try for the ota it used to reboot to twerp. Since I unrooted it reboots to bootloader and there are NO options for load, Recovery option doesnt work. I have asked this question on several threads no one seems to know or its too simple for them to reply since I'm a newb. Thanks
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Are you S-Off? Is so, the easiest way to to get up to date for you would be to RUU back to 1.29 which will restore everything on your phone back to stock including recovery. Make sure you copy anything you want to keep off your phone's internal memory (/sdcard) because it will wipe that too.
But from there, you can then easily take the OTA update for 1.31, then take the update for 3.04. Now you have the latest and greatest and can now flash TWRP, SuperSU, and any 4.3 ROM you want. With S-Off, you do not need the bootloader unlocked, but if you want to, you can flash an old hboot 1.29 from May or earlier and use revone -u, or go through htcdev to unlock. But like I said, totally unnecessary and more of a pain for me than it is worth.
Now, if you are S-ON, that is a totally different story, you cannot flash back to 1.29 RUU unless you still on 1.29 and have not updated to 1.31 yet. If you are currently on 1.31 you will have to try and restore the backup you said you had through TWRP, flash stock recovery from fastboot, re-lock your bootloader and all kinds of other crap to get to 3.04 and unlocked and rooted again.
You would have to tell me more about what condition your phone is currently in. hboot version? recovery custom or stock? ROM version installed? S-On or S-Off, etc.
Current State
PillowMetal said:
Are you S-Off? Is so, the easiest way to to get up to date for you would be to RUU back to 1.29 which will restore everything on your phone back to stock including recovery. Make sure you copy anything you want to keep off your phone's internal memory (/sdcard) because it will wipe that too.
But from there, you can then easily take the OTA update for 1.31, then take the update for 3.04. Now you have the latest and greatest and can now flash TWRP, SuperSU, and any 4.3 ROM you want. With S-Off, you do not need the bootloader unlocked, but if you want to, you can flash an old hboot 1.29 from May or earlier and use revone -u, or go through htcdev to unlock. But like I said, totally unnecessary and more of a pain for me than it is worth.
Now, if you are S-ON, that is a totally different story, you cannot flash back to 1.29 RUU unless you still on 1.29 and have not updated to 1.31 yet. If you are currently on 1.31 you will have to try and restore the backup you said you had through TWRP, flash stock recovery from fastboot, re-lock your bootloader and all kinds of other crap to get to 3.04 and unlocked and rooted again.
You would have to tell me more about what condition your phone is currently in. hboot version? recovery custom or stock? ROM version installed? S-On or S-Off, etc.
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Was told if I un-rooted and relocked the bootloader I should be able to update. This is a brand new phone. No data to worry about losing.
Currently:
Stock ROM 1.29, S-On, (Was rooted) Now Unrooted
Hboot 1.44 (Bootloader relocked)
Twerp Recovery (although with attempt to update to 1.31 twerp did not open as it did in prior attempts to update before unroot)
Now You have opened an interesting subject. Do I need to S-off before any updates to defeat the new hboot? New stuff is being written for the new hboot as we speak right? Read a thread last night about it. Sounded like they could s-off a 1.31 and I wouldn't need to worry about s-off'ing before upgrading. It also seems like I should be able to re load the backup of the stock recovery somehow and skip the complete load of the ruu 1.29 since I am already running it. I am probably making somethong more difficult than it needs to be but I would like to learn the little details. My first Android here. Want to learn quickly here as I Also bought the New 4g LTE Nexus 7 tablet with jelly bean. I get 4g LTE from T-mobile and just hotspot my phone.
upowersystems said:
Was told if I un-rooted and relocked the bootloader I should be able to update. This is a brand new phone. No data to worry about losing.
Currently:
Stock ROM 1.29, S-On, (Was rooted) Now Unrooted
Hboot 1.44 (Bootloader relocked)
Twerp Recovery (although with attempt to update to 1.31 twerp did not open as it did in prior attempts to update before unroot)
Now You have opened an interesting subject. Do I need to S-off before any updates to defeat the new hboot? New stuff is being written for the new hboot as we speak right? Read a thread last night about it. Sounded like they could s-off a 1.31 and I wouldn't need to worry about s-off'ing before upgrading. It also seems like I should be able to re load the backup of the stock recovery somehow and skip the complete load of the ruu 1.29 since I am already running it. I am probably making somethong more difficult than it needs to be but I would like to learn the little details. My first Android here. Want to learn quickly here as I Also bought the New 4g LTE Nexus 7 tablet with jelly bean. I get 4g LTE from T-mobile and just hotspot my phone.
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If you don't want to go the RUU route, then the condition your phone is currently in would only require you to flash stock recovery from 1.29.651.10 (which I got from the actual OTA file). The problem is that your bootloader is now locked and your are S-ON, so you will not be able to flash stock recovery unless you unlock again. If you still have the unlock.bin file from htcdev, that will still work if was done on your current hboot version, otherwise, you would have to visit the site again. Then flash stock recovery, and relock bootloader again. Then the 1.31 update will succeed followed by the 3.04 update.
As far as S-OFF, if you ever want it, you should get it now before updating to anything - even 1.31 (as long as the date on your hboot is May 2013 or earlier). Because, you WILL get the new hboots when you update to 1.31 and 3.04 and since you are S-ON, you will be stuck with it. There is no guarantee that you will ever be able to get S-OFF again with the new hboots. People on hboot 1.54 have been waiting and clamoring for months and there has been no progress and other phones have never even been able to get S-OFF.
Using revone to S-OFF will not wipe your phone or remove anything, it does not require root, and it you do not need to be unlocked. I have performed it from the computer 3 times on Sprint phones and even have made a post about how to make it succeed. There is also a video showing how it can be done on the phone too via terminal emulator, but that method requires root.
Having S-OFF just makes life so much easier, but with it carries great responsibility because security has been turned off and you need to know what you are flashing or you can run into trouble. But as long as you can get to the bootloader, you can recover.
PillowMetal said:
You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
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On the att variant you don't need to relock the boot loader to ota.
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Hey guys
A friend told me, he updated his htc one via OTA with just flashing stock recovery and not relocking the phone.
Is it possible?
I doubt because from the begining I have read everywhere that bootloader needs to be relocked.
Thanks for your answer,
Sent by myself, without help )
the last update worked for me without locked bootloader
arses said:
Hey guys
A friend told me, he updated his htc one via OTA with just flashing stock recovery and not relocking the phone.
Is it possible?
I doubt because from the begining I have read everywhere that bootloader needs to be relocked.
Thanks for your answer,
Sent by myself, without help )
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Just stock recovery and unchanged stock rom, rooted is oK, bootloader doesn't matter
there is NO need for (re-)locking the bootloader in order to get the OTA.
You should just have anything stock, i.e. firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot of course.
You receive the OTA if you are UNLOCKED and S-OFF!
Thanks guys.
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darkarvan said:
there is NO need for (re-)locking the bootloader in order to get the OTA.
You should just have anything stock, i.e. firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot of course.
You receive the OTA if you are UNLOCKED and S-OFF!
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OK, some dumb questions... I have a rooted stock Tmous device with 4.3 on it. The OTA obviously didn't work. I tried flashing a stock recovery I found online, but it may not have been the right one as I was never able to get it to upgrade.
So can you be specific of the steps necessary to get back to stock firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot? or is there another way to flash Kitkat easily?
I have TWRP right now, and have successfully been able to communicate with my device via ADB etc...
kendoori said:
OK, some dumb questions... I have a rooted stock Tmous device with 4.3 on it. The OTA obviously didn't work. I tried flashing a stock recovery I found online, but it may not have been the right one as I was never able to get it to upgrade.
So can you be specific of the steps necessary to get back to stock firmware, recovery and unmodified hboot? or is there another way to flash Kitkat easily?
I have TWRP right now, and have successfully been able to communicate with my device via ADB etc...
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The T-Mobile OTA is very picky about the stock recovery. I had to run the RUU for the T-Mobile stock 4.3 which put my phone completely stock. Then it did the OTA to 4.4.2 just fine. Since I am S-OFF, it was then easy enough to unlock and root. I've since found what appears to be the recovery.img from the OTA 4.4.2 update, so when they release another OTA update, I should be able to simply flash that recovery and get the update as normal. I hope.
Fuzi0719 said:
The T-Mobile OTA is very picky about the stock recovery. I had to run the RUU for the T-Mobile stock 4.3 which put my phone completely stock. Then it did the OTA to 4.4.2 just fine. Since I am S-OFF, it was then easy enough to unlock and root. I've since found what appears to be the recovery.img from the OTA 4.4.2 update, so when they release another OTA update, I should be able to simply flash that recovery and get the update as normal. I hope.
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Can you point me in the direction of the RUU you used? Of would you DropBox it to me (or some other file share method)?
Also, I'm currently S-On, so do you think my first step is to S-Off?
I've stayed with stock because I need WiFi calling, although I was just about to try Revolution HD 61 which supposedly has WiFi calling.
Any help is apperciated.
I didn't relock, but I did s-off
I've been trying to upgrade to 4.4 for weeks and finally figured out how to do it....
1) Installed Rumrunner to get s-off. I found Rumrunner and instructions here: http://rumrunner.us/
2) Downloaded older TMOUS firmware package that I found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43383588&postcount=2 and extracted recovery.img from it (to get me back to stock recovery)
3) Used Fastboot and flashed the stock recovery
4) Ran the standard update from within 4.3 and let it follow standard OTA process
5) Flashed latest TWRP via Fastboot (for some reason the openrecovery script method from the goo.im app didn't work) which I found here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7
Hi everyone!
I unlocked using HTCDEV my One (M7-UL , Europe version) with Hboot 1.57 and 4.4.2 with S-ON. After rooting and putting a custom recovery, I received an OTA update to upgrade to 4.4.3.
My question is, Can I upgrade as it or my device will brick ("Furthermore, although you will still be able to receive updates to your device via FOTA (“firmware over the air”), we do not guarantee that updating your device via FOTA will not render your device unusable")? I have read from HTC that if you upgrade an OTA being unlocked, it may fail...
Then:
1) May I relock boot and put a stock recovery in order to upgrade? If so, How does it work?
2) Or maybe I can run Sunshine in my device (i tested and it seems to work, I stopped in paypal step) to get S-OFF and then obtain this RUU and flash it?
Thx in advance!
To receive the ota you need to put the stock recovery back and copy over some of the apps that get deleted when you unlock the bootloader. It's a lot of stuffing around to be honest. Why not just install a custom Rom that uses 4.4.3. They are better than stock roms anyways
But I'm actually receiving this OTA; I'm hesitating to press install button being unlocked...
Tell me examples of these ROMS. Are they 100% compatible with all HTC ONE stock staff, (infrared , beats audio...)?.
Thx
It will let you download an ota if you are on a stock Rom. But if you have a custom recovery or you haven't re added the apps that were deleted when you unlocked it won't install. It won't brick your phone or anything. It just won't install. Maximums and Android revolution are two off the top of my head. Both work fine. Why don't you just experiment a little. Back up your current Rom and try a few others. If you don't like them u can always restore the backup
Thx. I'll try.
One more question, do you recommend me to run Sunshine in 4.4.2 stock rom to gain S-OFF before installing MaximusHD ROM?
and how much is secure doing S-OFF with this tool?
Sunshine does work best on stock roms. It's quick and easy and does compatibility tests to make sure it Will work on your phone. It does cost $25 but we'll worth it if you ask me
Sunshined Done!
Now I'm going to installing MaximusHD, and possible later, GPE (that requires being S-OFF first).
Any good guide explaining GPE<->SENSE (stock or custom)?
Thx
Just got a new m9 been away from htc and rooting for a long time. just upgraded from my trusty galaxy s3. Is there any thing i should be aware of before unlocking boot loader and rooting. the phone is bone stock on 5.0.2 Should i let it update before unlocking boot loader and rooting. To my understanding i should unlock boot loader install twrp and don't mount the system before making a back up. Then install supersu and root or use sunshine to get root and do both.
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Just got a new m9 been away from htc and rooting for a long time. just upgraded from my trusty galaxy s3. Is there any thing i should be aware of before unlocking boot loader and rooting. the phone is bone stock on 5.0.2 Should i let it update before unlocking boot loader and rooting. To my understanding i should unlock boot loader install twrp and don't mount the system before making a back up. Then install supersu and root or use sunshine to get root and do both.
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Welcome back to HTC
It really depends on what you plan to do with your M9.
If you plan on using custom roms then yes unlock and install TWRP. Root is not required to flash roms.
Sunshine does not root or unlock but removes secure write (S-Off) which allows you to install different firmware's etc.
With S-on you can only move forward with firmware's. Lots of people complain about the 25.00, But its well worth it.
If you are not concerned about the cost, then unlock, twrp, flash superSu, and install sunshine and S-off then your free to do anything.
backup if you like but there is a thread with stock backups etc...
hope this helps
My main concern was if i want to use the phone first with out unlocking and it receives the tmobile update that i can unlock and root later.
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My main concern was if i want to use the phone first with out unlocking and it receives the tmobile update that i can unlock and root later.
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Yes you can still unlock and root and S-off on the current OS 5.1 - 2.11.531.19, but I would do it before MM comes out for this device.
will do viperone had issues on initial firmware so i flashed the latest ruu, sunshine is next. thanks for the advice.
Hi everyone,
I need some help if you may please. I bought an HTC One M9 phone and for a while it's been telling me to update to the newest android version. However, this was impossible because even when I downloaded de update from TMobile, when restarting, TWRP would kick in and wouldn't let me go through the whole setup. So, I got to some tutorials and I found some guidance but it's all so confusing and I've gotten to a point where I have no idea what to do next.
Phone is from:
-TMobile
What I did:
-Got rid of TWRP
-Got it back to unroot
Phone status as of now:
It works fine, but it's still not updated.
When going into the HTC Download mode screen, i get the following info:
-UNLOCKED
-htc_himaul PVT S-ON
-OS-1.32.531.24
-Warning: Security checking failed NOT_FIND_SMARTIO
FILE /mnt/media_rw/ext_sd/0PJAIMG.zip
File NOT FOUND
ADB is not reading my device when in download mode, I was trying to install stock recovery by following a tutorian in android soul: how to install stock recovery on htc one m9 (sorry but the forum won't let me post the link.
What do I need to do? There are so many tutorials out ther with so many different instructions that I'm totally confused now as to what to install or not to install . I'd like to install the Developer version but if I have to deal with the Tmobile one, that's ok.
Thanks in advance
Umang jain
[email protected]
umangilu said:
Hi everyone,
I need some help if you may please. I bought an HTC One M9 phone and for a while it's been telling me to update to the newest android version. However, this was impossible because even when I downloaded de update from TMobile, when restarting, TWRP would kick in and wouldn't let me go through the whole setup. So, I got to some tutorials and I found some guidance but it's all so confusing and I've gotten to a point where I have no idea what to do next.
Phone is from:
-TMobile
What I did:
-Got rid of TWRP
-Got it back to unroot
Phone status as of now:
It works fine, but it's still not updated.
When going into the HTC Download mode screen, i get the following info:
-UNLOCKED
-htc_himaul PVT S-ON
-OS-1.32.531.24
-Warning: Security checking failed NOT_FIND_SMARTIO
FILE /mnt/media_rw/ext_sd/0PJAIMG.zip
File NOT FOUND
ADB is not reading my device when in download mode, I was trying to install stock recovery by following a tutorian in android soul: how to install stock recovery on htc one m9 (sorry but the forum won't let me post the link.
What do I need to do? There are so many tutorials out ther with so many different instructions that I'm totally confused now as to what to install or not to install . I'd like to install the Developer version but if I have to deal with the Tmobile one, that's ok.
Thanks in advance
Umang jain
[email protected]
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You say you got rid of twrp and tried to flash the stock recovery but adb is not working, so what recovery is currently on the phone?
I think the simplest solution would be to run the latest RUU from your sd card since you have adb issues (most likely a driver).
This will bring you to current stock 2.11.531.19. This will wipe the device and you must use a 4-32GB sd card.
Place it on the root of the sd card and boot into download mode, vol up to update and let it run.
you can get the RUU here
tw39515 said:
My main concern was if i want to use the phone first with out unlocking and it receives the tmobile update that i can unlock and root later.
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kc6wke said:
Yes you can still unlock and root and S-off on the current OS 5.1 - 2.11.531.19, but I would do it before MM comes out for this device.
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Wait. I just picked up an M9 myself, and my current plan is to wait until the official T-Mobile Marshmallow OTA is released before I unlock bootloader and S-OFF. My logic being that I could create then create a backup point in TWRP if I can't find a custom ROM that suitably handles T-Mobile specific features (WiFi calling, etc.) and just restore to the stock T-Mobile image.
Are you saying that updating OTA to Marshmallow could limit my ability to use Sunshine for S-OFF?
I suppose I could just S-OFF now and then RUU back to Stock T-Mobile Marshmallow once released?
edit: I'm already on Lollipop 5.1 on my M9. Am I already ****-out-of-luck for Sunshine?
Miguel_Lancaster said:
Wait. I just picked up an M9 myself, and my current plan is to wait until the official T-Mobile Marshmallow OTA is released before I unlock bootloader and S-OFF. My logic being that I could create then create a backup point in TWRP if I can't find a custom ROM that suitably handles T-Mobile specific features (WiFi calling, etc.) and just restore to the stock T-Mobile image.
Are you saying that updating OTA to Marshmallow could limit my ability to use Sunshine for S-OFF?
I suppose I could just S-OFF now and then RUU back to Stock T-Mobile Marshmallow once released?
edit: I'm already on Lollipop 5.1 on my M9. Am I already ****-out-of-luck for Sunshine?
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Sunshine will work on the current version. We never know what will come when a new OTA's come out.
An OTA wont relock the bootloader or return it to S-ON. That is why I would recommend to do the S-off before an OTA.
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Sunshine will work on the current version. We never know what will come when a new OTA's come out.
An OTA wont relock the bootloader or return it to S-ON. That is why I would recommend to do the S-off before an OTA.
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Makes sense.
But won't unlocking the bootloader, flashing TWRP, then going S-OFF with Sunshine make it so that the newest OTA won't be accepted as an actual over-the-air update due to the altered filesystem? I know that I can still RUU, but will RUU not revert my S-OFF back to S-ON and re-lock the bootloader? Or are those things unaffected by RUU, even as an executable RUU?
Miguel_Lancaster said:
Makes sense.
But won't unlocking the bootloader, flashing TWRP, then going S-OFF with Sunshine make it so that the newest OTA won't be accepted as an actual over-the-air update due to the altered filesystem? I know that I can still RUU, but will RUU not revert my S-OFF back to S-ON and re-lock the bootloader? Or are those things unaffected by RUU, even as an executable RUU?
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The RUU will not relock bootloader or rewrite S-On. To accept OTA, you need to have stock unmodified device.
You could run the RUU again or just unroot and flash stock recovery. The OTA will not wipe the device but the RUU will.
Hope this helps.
kc6wke said:
You say you got rid of twrp and tried to flash the stock recovery but adb is not working, so what recovery is currently on the phone?
I think the simplest solution would be to run the latest RUU from your sd card since you have adb issues (most likely a driver).
This will bring you to current stock 2.11.531.19. This will wipe the device and you must use a 4-32GB sd card.
Place it on the root of the sd card and boot into download mode, vol up to update and let it run.
you can get the RUU here
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Thanks for this! Im having trouble with my computer and have been looking for a ruu zip all day lol. Will give this a shot on my TMOUS S-Off M9 tomorrow so I can jump to my next device.