I am still looking for an easy way to play videos from my rooted htc one m7.
The videos are cc compatible, encoded with handbrake, low to medium bitrate, ie max 2 Mbps.
I tried the obvious one, bubble upnp first, unfortunately it didn't work AT ALL. I had to get the license refund back as really didn't do any chromecasting for me.
I am still trying to use Avia which so far is the best, in the sense it plays everything I throw at it. The problem with it, however, is occasionally stops in the middle of casting, eventually it restarts again either by itself or force restarting manually. One other thing, yesterday night the 50 mins video and I was casting stopped 3 times. This morning, after rebooting cc the whole video played fine, from end to end.
I tried several other casting programs such as local cast with lesser results.
My cc is running latest eureka.
M7 is running latest sense ROM and firmware, disabled wi-fi optimization, disabled greenify for whole streaming duration. Its logcat doesn't show anything relevant, such as no obvious avia crash.
Thanks for any idea on how to improve on this casting experience. I am no expert, I might be missing an obvious step or worker, so please don't hesitate to throw in anything on the matter.
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I'm going to guess and say the content you are trying to stream is on your HTC device and not somewhere else...
Issue with that is most likely that the HTC is sending over Wireless while the CCast is receiving over Wireless and your router isn't up to handling all that traffic without issues.
Bubble works if the content is available to the server. On Device content I do not believe is available to it. It will play locally in Bubble but I'm not sure the server side of Bubble can see it.
One of the drawbacks of CCast is it isn't very good at streaming content on the controlling device. It really designed to receive Internet or Intranet content that resides on a NAS or Server (such as DLNA, Bubble or Plex).
If you device supports mirroring I suppose thats one method that can work but it will depend heavily on the stability of the Wireless connection and power of the device doing the sending.
I would also try Plex, (The server is free) and see if you can stream effectively using a wired computer and browser (to control) to make sure that the CCast has a good connection and can get good streams.
If that works then you know it isn't the CCast that is the problem and you will know if buying the Plex App is worth doing.
Then you never have any reason to keep content on your device ever again as whatever is kept on the Plex Server will be available for playback and streaming to a CCast (your HTC and any other mobile devices you have) no matter where in the world you are.
And you will get back a ton of space on your mobile device currently used to store the video content.
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I'm going to guess and say the content you are trying to stream is on your HTC device and not somewhere else...
Issue with that is most likely that the HTC is sending over Wireless while the CCast is receiving over Wireless and your router isn't up to handling all that traffic without issues.
Bubble works if the content is available to the server. On Device content I do not believe is available to it. It will play locally in Bubble but I'm not sure the server side of Bubble can see it.
One of the drawbacks of CCast is it isn't very good at streaming content on the controlling device. It really designed to receive Internet or Intranet content that resides on a NAS or Server (such as DLNA, Bubble or Plex).
If you device supports mirroring I suppose thats one method that can work but it will depend heavily on the stability of the Wireless connection and power of the device doing the sending.
I would also try Plex, (The server is free) and see if you can stream effectively using a wired computer and browser (to control) to make sure that the CCast has a good connection and can get good streams.
If that works then you know it isn't the CCast that is the problem and you will know if buying the Plex App is worth doing.
Then you never have any reason to keep content on your device ever again as whatever is kept on the Plex Server will be available for playback and streaming to a CCast (your HTC and any other mobile devices you have) no matter where in the world you are.
And you will get back a ton of space on your mobile device currently used to store the video content.
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Thanks for your input.
I know that content from Internet via the likes of YouTube works fine. Plex also is good too. It's just that local videos which I intended to use more still not up to par with former.
I suspect too network connectivity issues, it's just I am more inclined to blame the phone. Or some software on the phone colliding with network and crashing it temporarily. During last night local cast, casting stopped again, I gathered some Avia log, mostly NPE and nothing else, so I will be sending them to the dev, maybe they find something useful. At least providing better log than a npe in the future should help investigating this further.
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Last night's Avia catlog, just for sake of completion
09-21 22:00:05.286 E/AVIA (15469): [22:00:05.281 SourceFile:291 createDefaultDeviceIcon] exception getting icon
09-21 22:00:05.286 E/AVIA (15469): Exception: java.lang.NullPointerException
09-21 22:00:08.760 E/AVIA (15469): [22:00:08.772 SourceFile:291 createDefaultDeviceIcon] exception getting icon
09-21 22:00:08.760 E/AVIA (15469): Exception: java.lang.NullPointerException
09-21 22:00:15.678 I/MediaRouter(15469): Unselecting the current route because it is no longer selectable: MediaRouter.RouteInfo{ uniqueId=com.google.android.gms/.cast.media.CastMediaRouteProviderService:0416cf8f10766cd5ece5d6b385900db8, name=Chromecast, description=Casting Avia, enabled=true, connecting=true, playbackType=1, playbackStream=-1, volumeHandling=0, volume=0, volumeMax=20, presentationDisplayId=-1, extras=Bundle[{com.google.android.gms.cast.EXTRA_CAST_DEVICE="Chromecast" (0416cf8f10766cd5ece5d6b385900db8)}], providerPackageName=com.google.android.gms }
09-21 22:00:42.346 E/AVIA (15469): [22:00:42.351 SourceFile:626 a] Service: null; Context: valid
09-21 22:00:42.386 E/AVIA (15469): [22:00:42.382 SourceFile:552 a] Service: null; Context: valid
09-21 22:00:42.386 E/AVIA (15469): [22:00:42.393 SourceFile:557 a] Service: null; Context: valid; inv: valid
09-21 22:00:42.396 E/AVIA (15469): [22:00:42.401 SourceFile:864 a] Service: null; Context: valid; inv: valid
millicent said:
Thanks for your input.
I know that content from Internet via the likes of YouTube works fine. Plex also is good too. It's just that local videos which I intended to use more still not up to par with former.
I suspect too network connectivity issues, it's just I am more inclined to blame the phone. Or some software on the phone colliding with network and crashing it temporarily. During last night local cast, casting stopped again, I gathered some Avia log, mostly NPE and nothing else, so I will be sending them to the dev, maybe they find something useful. At least providing better log than a npe in the future should help investigating this further.
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I have no doubt it is the phone as there are always things built into the phone OS meant to save battery and take up proc power while you are trying to stream a video. And most can't be shut off in settings...Even Play Store Updates will monopolize your network connection and stop any traffic from flowing that isn't Play Store related.
Thats why I say it is better to not even TRY to stream off the device and put it on a server instead so the content streams directly from there and does not require the Phone's full attention and bandwidth to maintain a good stream.
The only drawback to that is if your ISP Upload speed (at home) is so poor that you have to send a much lower quality stream to compensate.
And if that is an issue for you then you are ultimately better off just doing local playback through the device HDMI port and remove the WiFi transfer from the equation entirely.
Another option I found and I'm not sure might work for you is this portable router....(don't go running out to buy it, I have not used this or know if it actually is a solution for you so do some research on it first!)
It claims to stream Audio and Video...
http://www.ravpower.com/ravpower-rp-wd01-filehub-3000mah-power-bank.html
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I was fortunate to get my hands on a Chromecast at my local BestBuy the other day, and after a full day of use it is one of the best $25 (had a $10 reward cert) I have spent since my last trip to Outback Steakhouse .
Getting the dongle up and running in my entertainment center was a bit awkward with the mini USB required for powering the device, but all went smoothly. First time set up was simple, requiring installation of the Chromecast app on my HTC One which was able to pair with the dongle and hook it up to my home WiFi network. Once connected to WiFi, it's ready to use, displaying the "Ready to Cast" home screen.
Google Play Music was the first app I tried out, and I was immediately disappointed to get the error message "Unable to Cast sideloaded content". Hopefully an update for local content will be added to phones and tablets in the near future, since it is only possible within the Chrome browser on your Mac/PC. Music playback through their Unlimited music service worked as advertise though, however the Now Playing interface displayed on the TV could use a bit more polish. It doesn't look awful, but it doesn't look very good either. Every now and then I would get an error when selecting songs saying "Could not stream your selection at this time," where I would have to kill the app from the multitask screen and restart.
Where this device thrives is video playback. Netflix, Youtube, and Google Play Videos are the only content supported so far but they deliver. Watching AMC's The Killing and The Avengers in 1080p by simply "casting" to my TV with my new Nexus 7 is a real treat. And the best part is I can use my tablet while watching for anything I want. Be it games, web browsing, reading, or music; it doesn't effect playback at all since it is being streamed by the dongle, not your phone/tablet/computer. Even better, ChromeCast has minimal effect on battery life of your device. I started an episode of The Killing with 55% battery, after the episode was over about an hour later my battery held at 54%.
I have not been able to try out screen mirroring yet, but will update once I play around with it. Overall I am satisfied with my purchase. The lack of local media support on phones/tablets are preventing it from being a serious threat to AirPlay and the Apple TV, but at the same time being 65% cheaper make it a more than reasonable trade off. The way I see this device: it makes watching Netflix on my TV simpler. Before it was turning on my PS3, navigating to the Netflix app, waiting for it to load, choosing between regular content or kids, and then finally getting to pick what I would like to watch. Now I just switch to the input my Chromecast is hooked up to, fire up the Netflix app on my phone/tablet (whichever is closer), make my selection, and then "cast" to my TV.
If you are looking for a fast simple way to watch Netflix, YouTube, and movie rentals through Google Play this device is for you. If you are expecting an Airplay/Apple TV killer, well this device isn't for you...yet. With its open API for future dev support, it is just a matter of time for local files and more streaming sites such as HBO GO and Hulu to be supported.
The oneinfour score: 7.5/10 - lack of local content playback and wacky music playback issues hold back an otherwise solid streamer.
interesting read.
I think we may be waiting a bit for Hulu to get on board. They're a bit quirky regarding the various contract and licensing agreements. To me, they should just view this as HDMI out on the Hulu app, but who knows. Sometimes they're just obtuse because one can just hook up a PC to the TV and have all content available.
It's early, so to some degree, we're going to see a lot of growing pains as the product matures. I look forward to trying it out myself when I eventually get one.
Chromecasting a chrome tab on your desktop allows HBO go (and others I presume) to work with your chromecast. I was even able to drag and drop a local mkv file into the active chrome tab and it played on my TV just fine. Some pixelation and artifacting, but mostly negligible. Audio synced up fine too. Here's a video of it in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT2XUI-yZxE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Chromecast messes with AdBlocker
You can't expect it to be compatible with every third party app. Adblocker needs to fix on their end.
As far as Chromecast.. I went to buy one and it is sold out every where.
What would be amazing would be a device that would allow us to send screen to TV for gaming, etc.. With the higher res this would be awesome on my 1080 Bravia!
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The way I see this device: it makes watching Netflix on my TV simpler. Before it was turning on my PS3, navigating to the Netflix app, waiting for it to load, choosing between regular content or kids, and then finally getting to pick what I would like to watch. Now I just switch to the input my Chromecast is hooked up to, fire up the Netflix app on my phone/tablet (whichever is closer), make my selection, and then "cast" to my TV.
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This is what makes it a potentially killer app. I own a roku, a wdtv, an htpc (out of commission because of fan noise), and I have had multiple cable boxes. In terms of interfaces, nothing has gotten it right. Interfaces are either time consuming to get working, slow, unpolished, or difficult to navigate. Worse, sometimes they rely on unstable hacks that are destroyed by API changes. The difference with chromecast is that most of the apps on your tablet and phone are fairly polished, speedy, and easy to navigate. Most importantly, the video is separated from the UI, meaning you don't stop what you're doing to look at something else. There are a lot of great ways that this can be used: Playing a movie automatically brings up more information about that movie on the tablet; it could tell you the names of the actors on the screen (I think amazon has something like this). Song lyrics could be displayed on the tablet. Sky is the limit in that respect.
Yes, screen mirroring would be nice, but I doubt it will ever work as well as we want it to on this device. Google has not released an API for windows or mac os so speed may never be something we see on the desktop. We will see though.
It would depend on the screen it was being mirrored too and would not be perfect but it would be awesome.
Ideally instead of having to stay media info chrome I would just like to my screen on the TV. That would be a huge selling point for Google.
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Why do you think direct local streaming was not included? Just seems like no brainer to me... Anyway I think ill probably go pick one up once Skype gets on board with suppprt.
Great review, I agree with everything you wrote. I am loving mine so far too. If Amazon wakes up and adds support, this will be a killer little dongle. Though, if they don't, then I will just starting buying my TV shows and Movies from Google's store instead =)
I too would like to see the ability to stream local content soon, and also from the cloud services like Dropbox/Box/Drive/etc. The developers have already proven it to be possible, with great results ... it is really up to Google now to allow it to happen. The fact that they released the Chromecast without local file support has me a little worried. But I am hoping this was more a scheduling decision to get it out the door to beat the competition to the punch and get people talking.
This cheap little gadget has the potential to shake up the media industry in a big way.
Whats your BIG Chromecast idea? More potential than a "traditional" A/V streamer?
So I've seen many people, developers and users alike, swarming the ideas of the expected basic usages of this wonderful device.
Examples: Out-of-Box expected usage (streaming from qualified providers), mirrored A/V from PC/Phone/Tablet, other connectivity proof of concepts (IE: emulators), ect…
So my question is: What's your big idea to extend the usage of this device beyond "traditional" implementation?
I’ll start by sharing mine (actually 2 product idea’s, that could become 1 at some point in time).
1. All-in-one media station. Taking the concept of a HTPC/XBMC build, and extending it to have the Chromcast as the “presenter”, and the PC/Phone/Tablet as the “remote”. The software package would include a “media server” run on a compatible PC on the same network, accompanied by the “remote” app on the Phone/Tablet (web-based control for PC remote).
I intend to also include the ability to queue/control presentation files such as PPT, PDF, ect… I’d like to have the package useful to both home and business clients/users.
One of my favorite parts of this idea resides in the remote app. Upon selection of the media you intend to cast, use a 2-finger up gesture to begin casting (makes me think of the scene in IronMan2 when he takes over the monitors in the courtroom by using a similar gesture on his “phone”, lol) It’s the little things that get me excited haha.
2. A home automation/security media point. On demand or automated view of automation/security enabled objects in your environment. Example: You have a security system with camera’s in your home, specifically, one is mounted at your front door. Someone appears at your door (motion-trigger), and/or rings the doorbell (another available trigger). HDMI-CEC enabled TV’s would switch the input to the Chromcast and display the camera at your front door.
My brain begins to hurt as all the possibilities for automation and security integration pile up. But hopefully, you get the point.
I’d love to hear from some of the other inventive people on this forum, and interested in the Chromcast. Again, what’s your idea?
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The one thing I'd love to see the chromecast do is be able to connect directly to my phone and use it's 4g for streaming. I would figure something like this should be possible since it's basically what it does during initial setup.
Due to the layout of where I work (big concrete building), I get great signal with my phone in the window, but no signal anywhere else. i'd love to be able to plug the chromecast into the tv during breaks and stream from the phone.
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The one thing I'd love to see the chromecast do is be able to connect directly to my phone and use it's 4g for streaming. I would figure something like this should be possible since it's basically what it does during initial setup.
Due to the layout of where I work (big concrete building), I get great signal with my phone in the window, but no signal anywhere else. i'd love to be able to plug the chromecast into the tv during breaks and stream from the phone.
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No during initial setup the chromecast generates its own wifi hostpost. Ofcourse this hotspot has no internet access and so would be useless for anything but setting up.
But why not make a hotspot with your phone? That would do the same thing.
I just want miracast support
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Chromecast supports multiple connections so could do things like a card game where player cards need to be private. The screen shows the playing field and each player sees just their cards on phone/tablet/computer. Is a simple example but there may be other uses to have multiple game play or interaction to same screen.
Chromecast and DIAL protocol are free to license so could be put into any consumer electronics device - SmartTV, refrigerators, home thermostat, etc.
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Chromecast supports multiple connections so could do things like a card game where player cards need to be private. The screen shows the playing field and each player sees just their cards on phone/tablet/computer. Is a simple example but there may be other uses to have multiple game play or interaction to same screen.
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That is quite an awesome idea! Granted, I see it as a similar setup that the WiiU has tried to do with some of their games. And MS also with the "second screen" for xbox and such.
But why shouln't google get in on this tech as well? I'm very interested to start investigating this idea myself. Mind if I borrow your idea xenokc? lol
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That is quite an awesome idea! Granted, I see it as a similar setup that the WiiU has tried to do with some of their games. And MS also with the "second screen" for xbox and such.
But why shouln't google get in on this tech as well? I'm very interested to start investigating this idea myself. Mind if I borrow your idea xenokc? lol
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Go for it!
Unholyfire said:
So I've seen many people, developers and users alike, swarming the ideas of the expected basic usages of this wonderful device.
Examples: Out-of-Box expected usage (streaming from qualified providers), mirrored A/V from PC/Phone/Tablet, other connectivity proof of concepts (IE: emulators), ect…
So my question is: What's your big idea to extend the usage of this device beyond "traditional" implementation?
I’ll start by sharing mine (actually 2 product idea’s, that could become 1 at some point in time).
1. All-in-one media station. Taking the concept of a HTPC/XBMC build, and extending it to have the Chromcast as the “presenter”, and the PC/Phone/Tablet as the “remote”. The software package would include a “media server” run on a compatible PC on the same network, accompanied by the “remote” app on the Phone/Tablet (web-based control for PC remote).
I intend to also include the ability to queue/control presentation files such as PPT, PDF, ect… I’d like to have the package useful to both home and business clients/users.
One of my favorite parts of this idea resides in the remote app. Upon selection of the media you intend to cast, use a 2-finger up gesture to begin casting (makes me think of the scene in IronMan2 when he takes over the monitors in the courtroom by using a similar gesture on his “phone”, lol) It’s the little things that get me excited haha.
2. A home automation/security media point. On demand or automated view of automation/security enabled objects in your environment. Example: You have a security system with camera’s in your home, specifically, one is mounted at your front door. Someone appears at your door (motion-trigger), and/or rings the doorbell (another available trigger). HDMI-CEC enabled TV’s would switch the input to the Chromcast and display the camera at your front door.
My brain begins to hurt as all the possibilities for automation and security integration pile up. But hopefully, you get the point.
I’d love to hear from some of the other inventive people on this forum, and interested in the Chromcast. Again, what’s your idea?
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#1 will be done when Plex enables Chromecast functionality.
C$39 on amazon.ca, free shipping. http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00IT92PR0
I guess that world release was even closer than Google predicted at SXSW.
But notice that this is the "New Canada Compatible" version! (i.e., package printed in French as well as English )
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C$39 on amazon.ca, free shipping. http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00IT92PR0
I guess that world release was even closer than Google predicted at SXSW.
But notice that this is the "New Canada Compatible" version! (i.e., package printed in French as well as English )
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Ordered one this morning. I've already got two rooted 'casts but I figured I'd get an "official" one to see just what it supports without the rooting. I suspect that the answer will be "not much".
Croptop said:
Ordered one this morning. I've already got two rooted 'casts but I figured I'd get an "official" one to see just what it supports without the rooting. I suspect that the answer will be "not much".
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Geo-blocked U.S. services are still geo-blocked, but you don't need a rooted version to work around that.
I just got one as well from Amazon.ca. Wondering if it gives the possibility to live stream TV channels like something from Russia. I saw several sites that offer subscriptions but none offers Chromecast compatibilities.
Reading now about Plex, some say it cost something, some don't, trying to figure out what is the main purpose of Plex and if its a monthly fee and if so why.
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Reading now about Plex, some say it cost something, some don't, trying to figure out what is the main purpose of Plex and if its a monthly fee and if so why.
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Plex is useful for...
Streaming locally-stored content
Transcoding (converting on-the-fly) content for streaming content in formats that the device does not support
Extra Premium features such as offline sync
Support for Chromecast used to be available to premium users only (as part of early access), but it is now available to all.
To use Plex on Android, you need the Plex app.
If you subscribe to PlexPass (the premium features), you can use Plex for PlexPass which is free.
If not, the Plex for Android app is $4.99
So...
Plex Media Server software - free
Hardware to run Plex Media Server on - you provide
PlexPass (Premium) features - monthly, yearly or lifetime subscription
Plex Android app - free for PlexPass subscribers, $4.99 (one-time) without PlexPass subscription
Plex (and on-the-fly transcoding in general) is especially useful if you have multiple playback clients that don't necessarily support the same formats. Otherwise an alternative is to simply convert your media library to a format that your player supports.
The main reason that many of us end up using Plex is that it's useful in several different ways, and although there are equally good alternatives in each area, it just seems sensible to consolidate on Plex.
I don't really need to index all the media on my network and add metadata - but as long as the capability is there with Plex, why not?
I can get by without transcoding, at least for one or two devices, as long as I'm willing to do some quick conversions when I need to - but as long as Plex is there and it will do transcoding, I guess I don't need to bother. And I keep adding more devices...
There are other ways to browse my media on my iPod Touch or Android tablet, but I bought those Plex apps some time ago when they were on sale for $1.99, so I might as well use them now that they support the Chromecast.
My old Samsung TV happens to have a Plex client app, and so does my Roku media player, so it supports my devices in addition to the Chromecast.
And Plex has a bunch of channels of its own to supplement what I get from other sources, and some of those channels are killer!
So while Plex is far from perfect - there are bugs and the indexing and meta-data sometimes goes wrong - it's hard to find another tool that does so much.
Hmmm, as other people have noticed, the Chromecast now has a new internal data field for Country Code, set by IP address. You may need to update your Chromecast app to see it (under the firmware settings for 16041). In Canada it reads CA. In Spain it apparently reads ES.
If they have a country code, it's probably exposed to apps loading on the Chromecast. How long will it be before new versions of those apps start checking Country Code for geoblocking. I have a feeling that the Chromecast is about to become a whole lot less useful to international users.
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Hmmm, as other people have noticed, the Chromecast now has a new internal data field for Country Code, set by IP address. You may need to update your Chromecast app to see it (under the firmware settings for 16041). In Canada it reads CA. In Spain it apparently reads ES.
If they have a country code, it's probably exposed to apps loading on the Chromecast. How long will it be before new versions of those apps start checking Country Code for geoblocking. I have a feeling that the Chromecast is about to become a whole lot less useful to international users.
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If we're lucky it'll only be used for localization of apps, but probably not... If that's the case, DNS bypass may stop working and VPN may become the only way to bypass regional restrictions.
DJames1 said:
If they have a country code, it's probably exposed to apps loading on the Chromecast. How long will it be before new versions of those apps start checking Country Code for geoblocking. I have a feeling that the Chromecast is about to become a whole lot less useful to international users.
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It will be a problem for anyone who uses an App that comes directly from a content provider (Netflix, HBOGo, Hulu, BBC) but it shouldn't affect things like Plex, Playon and Bubble. (I call them content referrers because they simply pass on content from other content providers as a sort of middleman).
The question is does the unit you buy come country code locked (ie a UK CCast is locked to UK available content only) or does it determine where it is based on IP and then set the country code?
If Hardlocked then we will need to find a way to root and change this at will
If softlocked then it should be easy to fool the device via use of a VPN and Proxy. (I'm guessing this is what is happening)
Netflix would appear to be the toughest nut to crack and I'm not sure exactly how they go about geolocating and determining what you should see.
If you subscribe from the UK (or Canada) you get one set of content available but if you are in the US you get a different set of content.
What happens if your usually in the UK (UK Sub) but then go to the US do you see US content? Probably...So just a matter of fooling the device. VPN some router trick or via Root.
If they do try and mess this all up with geolocation then I'm betting it won't be long before someone creates a service that will fetch geolocatated/restricted content and pass it onto another geolocation in the same way Plex does with it's channels. Think of it as VPN Plus service.
Apparently it is a soft value determined dynamically from IP address, because I've seen a few people mention that it changed for them when using a VPN.
In theory the DNS proxy services could determine what new Google site is doing the location check and add it to their redirection list, but that may take some time. They haven't been in a big hurry to test and support the Chromecast so far, but maybe that will change now that it's released internationally.
Netflix always goes by your current IP address to set its content filter. They don't care what country your account is based in, or what country you were in 10 minutes ago. If your IP address is now in Mexico, you can watch that new movie that's only licensed for streaming in Mexico.
Services that are U.S.-only like Pandora and Hulu+ tend to be much more diligent and strict about enforcing geoblocking. Unlike Netflix they don't want your steenking international business. That's why Netflix is a stock market superstar and Pandora and Hulu are perpetually struggling to survive.
I can verify it's a soft value, I bought both my chromecasts from the US and I'm from Israel, the latest patch added localization, meaning half of my chromecast is in hebrew and everything is godamn at the wrong side, I hate it but not enough to start messing around with VPN's.
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I can verify it's a soft value, I bought both my chromecasts from the US and I'm from Israel, the latest patch added localization, meaning half of my chromecast is in hebrew and everything is godamn at the wrong side, I hate it but not enough to start messing around with VPN's.
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This jives with the Chromecast setup application being "available in 50 languages"
Thanks for the confirmation!
bhiga said:
This jives with the Chromecast setup application being "available in 50 languages"
Thanks for the confirmation!
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Google changed something from yesterday, the hebrew is gone, but I think its still different, the cloak suppose to be on the right side?
Hello folks,
I got my Chromecast, it works, I like it.
But I find it unnerving that the system is so closed.
Some guy has, months ago, released something he called "PiCast" as an open alternative on the Raspberry Pi.
I wonder: Why aren't there more devs bringing an open, extensible alternative, installable on a Raspberry Pi or other small computer, to life? I really don't understand it, since. like I see it, it doesn't seem particularly complicated! The following features would at least have to be implemented:
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- media player software which can play a broad palette of formats and stream from different sources (VLC, Mplayer etc. come to mind an can surely be used as a part of the project)
- web interface which accepts URLs (web or LAN) of files that are to be played and passes them to the media player; and which accepts control commands for the now playing file like pause, forward etc.
Most convenient would be if these URLs could not only be http ones, but also SMB, streaming protocols etc.
Don't we all want a device where we NOT are confined to certain formats?
- apps for computers and mobile devices which let the user choose files he wants to watch / listen to and pass the URL to the web interface and which pass control commands like pause, forward to the web interface
- a customized, lean OS with a Chromecast-like, very simple UI
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Any thoughts?
Best wishes,
Hasenbein
The entire reason for the CCast (which essentially replaced the GoogleTV fiasco) was to keep the system closed enough to get Content providers to support it due to the ability to use DRM and control the players being used.
Why do you think other projects like XBMC still to this day do NOT (and will NEVER) have access to Netflix for any sustainable time because Netflix will change their encryption and break any player app they do not have complete control over.
GoogleTV was actually blacklisted by the network websites to prevent it from playing content. All because it was just a little too open for their liking.
What @Asphyx said, plus Android TV sticks have been around for quite some time and already do similar. The key difference is market share. History is littered with proposed "standards" that never won. In the end it's not what is better, sometimes not even what's cheaper, but what picks up.
Iomega's Zip drive was inferior to SyQuest EZ drive, but Iomega won by marketing and hence adoption. Developers had more incentive to support Zip drives (not that much was specifically required but still) because there was a wider audience and market for them.
Adobe's changing the design market the same way. I still have CS6, but more and more I'm getting files from people on CC. And it's annoying. Essentially I'm being forced into CC if I want to work with anybody outside of my four walls.
Even though it's only available in select retail channels, Google is pushing Chromecast with TV ads. The fact that they've sold (or at least shipped) millions is a strong testament to its adoption rate. Even at my local stores, I can say just by the serial numbers they've cycled through, at least 500 have left the shelf since August 2013.
The market share attracts content providers, and the closed nature gives their lawyers ease regarding theft. Sure, there will always be people supporting TV sticks with clever solutions that are free or near-free, though they sometimes require jumping through numerous hoops (even moreso than Chromecast of today), and if something doesn't work as required, it involved researching. It's not like you can put in a support ticket or call support. Granted, Chromecast support isn't outstanding... but many of my non-techy friends have adopted Chromecast, even without hearing from me, and these are not people who visit XDA, nor are they people who would ever have run across or even considered an Android TV stick, nor are they people who have any idea of what an Arduino or Raspberry Pi is.
The draw is the consumer, and the consumer needs content to consume. Which means longevity of the product/concept/standard depends on support from the content providers.
At the price point of Chromecast it seems to be designed to draw in not just first timers, but also customers who may already have a media to TV solution but it's lacking in simplicity or quality. E.g. maybe you have a powerful HTPC that suits all your needs but Netflix is in low-def for DRM reasons. And YouTube stutters on 1080p because Windows keeps trying to do other things in the background while you play it. OK then you put $35 down on a Chromecast and now your Netflix & YouTube videos look better.
And similarly, it's cheap enough that if Chromecast alone does not suit your needs, you can say, well hey, all I spent on the Chromecast was $35, so I don't see why that should stop me from also buying that other media box that does more things.
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At the price point of Chromecast it seems to be designed to draw in not just first timers, but also customers who may already have a media to TV solution but it's lacking in simplicity or quality.
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I'm definitely in this boat.
I have a semi-Smart TV that supports YouTube, Amazon, and a about 12 other "channels" - but its interface is slow and clunky. It also doesn't support DLNA video (sadly, one model year too early).
I have a HTPC that I use to play DVDs and Blu-rays from my media server, and even though I have a BT keyboard remote for it, navigating between Windows Media Center and browser-sourced video is fiddly.
Chromecast didn't replace my HTPC, it's just giving me a much easier way to view those browser-sourced videos.
However, if/when Chromecast gets DVD and BD playback, it very well might replace my HTPC...
http://blog.vudu.com/?p=10711
https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?112941-UltraViolet-FAQ-s
Vudu ultraviolet on Chromecast will displace the need for a disc player or home video server for a number of people. Not sure yet but I'll probably be one of them.
cmstlist said:
At the price point of Chromecast it seems to be designed to draw in not just first timers, but also customers who may already have a media to TV solution but it's lacking in simplicity or quality. E.g. maybe you have a powerful HTPC that suits all your needs but Netflix is in low-def for DRM reasons. And YouTube stutters on 1080p because Windows keeps trying to do other things in the background while you play it. OK then you put $35 down on a Chromecast and now your Netflix & YouTube videos look better.
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Yup. I really care about picture quality, so Chromecast offers the cheapest way to get SuperHD Netflix on my TV. If I wasn't bothered about the quality, I'd just connect my tablet with a cable whenever I wanted to watch something.
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http://blog.vudu.com/?p=10711
https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?112941-UltraViolet-FAQ-s
Vudu ultraviolet on Chromecast will displace the need for a disc player or home video server for a number of people. Not sure yet but I'll probably be one of them.
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Interesting service and a good idea....
Unfortunately $2 per SD conversion of DVD or $5 to HD is a bit too pricey considering how I have the equipment to rip my own DVD (I have more than 3000 titles in my collection), do the Upconvert and even rip the subtitles to put into an MKV.
But this service will do well because of the sheer number of people who do not have the capability to do that and the ease of use.
I wonder are they actually converting your DVDs or are they doing the much smarter thing and letting you insert the disk, check it for validity and then just giving you access to the already encoded content they have stored?
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I wonder are they actually converting your DVDs or are they doing the much smarter thing and letting you insert the disk, check it for validity and then just giving you access to the already encoded content they have stored?
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The second one, so far as I know.
And if you just enter your digital copy information that works too.
My son-in-law does that but I haven't asked him about the details - he's very happy with the service though.
It's a great Idea....
I have a similar validation system I use....
If I own it already on disc then I feel I have the right to download it if I choose...I paid them their cut so no Guilt involved.
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Similar but I don't pay the conversion fee!
I have a small collection.
I got tired years ago of format changes, player upkeep and having more plastic in the house, so I've been satisfied with rentals. I keep a few favorites on my shelves just in case.
And I had one of my media servers die of old age a few months ago. I'm tired of maintaining my own cloud. Been there, done that. Still do my music and just a few movies now.
I like the ultraviolet model, it sounds simple to me.
And to the OP -
LocalCast does direct entry of http and smb addresses.
EarlyMon said:
I have a small collection.
I got tired years ago of format changes, player upkeep and having more plastic in the house, so I've been satisfied with rentals. I keep a few favorites on my shelves just in case.
And I had one of my media servers die of old age a few months ago. I'm tired of maintaining my own cloud. Been there, done that. Still do my music and just a few movies now.
I like the ultraviolet model, it sounds simple to me.
And to the OP -
LocalCast does direct entry of http and smb addresses.
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yeah unfortunately I live in a very rural area and Cable and Internet outages are common (all the damn trees!)
So when that happens I really have no other recourse than to use whatever is on my Media server to entertain myself...
I went out and invested in a good NAS with Raid that holds 16Tb worth of drives (don't get full16Tbs with Raid though...I may even need to double that soon as I'm running out of space).
My Media Server is my HTPC so I can simply replace that unit if it craps out and just re-install the server software and map the drives.
Been checking out that Chromecast store app...a Lot of stuff in there I didn't know about...
Currently TV's usually negotiate the appropriate refresh rate/resolution for the stream being cast to the tv such as with netflix. The TV will adjust to the content being played as I watch in the system settings showing the resolution/hz dynamically changing if the content changes (ex to AD's) and back.
However when using chromecast/miracast screen mirroring the device and not having the TV handle the stream to the media preventing the TV from seeing the content and operating at the appropriate settings. So far the only app ive seen is by chainfire TVHZ which appears to be outdated and only for android 5 since my tablet on 6 shows not compatible along with my sg8+ as well running nougat. I also tested the app on a tablet running android 5.0.1 and unfortunately it just attempts to force 60hz unfortunately along with 720p rather than 1080 or any other desired setting.
The reason for this is at 60fps/720p, the content has massive jitter, audio stutters and in rare events the audio desyncs to the point of no recovery. My laptop using chrome browser will force 30hz and will alleviate the issue a bit but this is a mere workaround and not even a solution as 24p content is more common and 30hz still has some minor kinks despite being much smoother.
Any information or links on how googles chromecast operates on a technical level would be appreciated, I may just try to write something myself as chainfire did but I would need to understand the basics of how the protocol works. What information is in a request/active cast stream etc... Or if something exists already being an app somewhere that would be nice too, however I have not found anything yet.