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math history help!!!!!

Hey everyone, i need some help. Im suppose to come up with a paper. This is what the instructions are: Remember that you need one mathematical topic and one topic that involves the wider society. Usually they will be from the same time period and culture, but not always. There should be some connection between the two topics. For instance, you might like to research a mathematician and an artist who have no direct connection but are both representative of the intellectual spirit of a particular historical age.
You want something that allows you to make some connections of your own. This could involve an ancient or modern development in algebra. The critical thinking would come in connecting it to the wider society. How was it used in a way that affected the world outside mathematics? How did it come to be represented in schools/universities? Algebra is a rich field, so I am sure you can refine this to a suitably limited topic.
More info: you could look at the move from rhetorical algebra to symbolic algebra and highlight one application that the change facilitated. Likewise, you could look at the development of abstract algebras (e.g. Lie algebras) and one application that has been facilitated. For instance, the Lie algebras are widely used in physics.
I also had to pick a theme which was Algebra.
Could someone help me on this? Any help would be appreciated. i just need some ideas thats all. i just need some topic ideas, because i cant think of anything.

pythagoras but may be overdon
laplace as in the laplace transform
George Boole as in bool true false boolean algebra very used in computers
Rafael Bombelli if you wanna be l33t and write about imaginary numbers those are great think squareroot(-1)

there is also Ada the daughter of lord byron

Why not L'Hopital?

[OT] Learning the ins and outs of java.

I'm a sophomore in high school taking computer science. (please don't judge me because of my age) Our school is making some major budget cuts, so sadly our video game programming and design class (the only other higher level programming class offered) got cut and this will be my last and only programming class at my school (well there's a possibility that it will be brought back in my senior year, but I'd at least like to stay fresh over the summer and next year). I don't know much about java to tell you the truth. I know how to use loops, conditionals, arrays (1 and 2 dimensional) and arraylists and most of the basic variable types (off of the top of my head, integers, doubles, booleans, longs, and strings). I've made some very very simple apps such as whack a mole and craps, but the gui class was provided by my teacher.
My question is this: is there a good, preferably free online program that teaches you the basics of java (especially related to the gui) and possibly some more complex programming?
I appreciate any help. thanks.
P.S. Please forgive me if this is too off-topic, but I really couldn't think of a better place to post this. Hope you guys will be able to help.

gonintendo said:
I'm a sophomore in high school taking computer science. (please don't judge me because of my age) Our school is making some major budget cuts, so sadly our video game programming and design class (the only other higher level programming class offered) got cut and this will be my last and only programming class at my school (well there's a possibility that it will be brought back in my senior year, but I'd at least like to stay fresh over the summer and next year). I don't know much about java to tell you the truth. I know how to use loops, conditionals, arrays (1 and 2 dimensional) and arraylists and most of the basic variable types (off of the top of my head, integers, doubles, booleans, longs, and strings). I've made some very very simple apps such as whack a mole and craps, but the gui class was provided by my teacher.
My question is this: is there a good, preferably free online program that teaches you the basics of java (especially related to the gui) and possibly some more complex programming?
I appreciate any help. thanks.
P.S. Please forgive me if this is too off-topic, but I really couldn't think of a better place to post this. Hope you guys will be able to help.
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Go to Youtube.....search for a guy named "thenewboston"
He has a whole series of java programming lectures that saved me in my Advanced Java course in college....

Mr. Apocalypse said:
Go to Youtube.....search for a guy named "thenewboston"
He has a whole series of java programming lectures that saved me in my Advanced Java course in college....
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Thanks! I'll make sure to check him out!

I was in the same place as you a while back. The best way to learn is by trying to make something you want.
Before jumping into any serious programming you need to learn a few more important concepts. Methods, classes, objects, and more on those. You need to understand how it all works before going further.
If you have any questions feel free to message me or hit me up on gtalk. I'll give you some tips, ideas, and some source code of apps to dig into, if you like.
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the basics:
http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
now go to some university's entry level cs website and do some of the programming assignments.
but if you know control flow, some data structures, types, etc. just program. there are a ton of simple things to write. for example, write a calculator that has an add method that just adds the two arguments, then write recursive multiplication, factorial, and exponential methods that only use add (or other methods you wrote). it's simple, but decent recursion practice. i could give you a ton of simple programs to write.
oh and pay attention to what everything actually is. read and understand what static, private, public, classes, objects, etc. actually are and their purpose.

birgertime said:
I was in the same place as you a while back. The best way to learn is by trying to make something you want.
Before jumping into any serious programming you need to learn a few more important concepts. Methods, classes, objects, and more on those. You need to understand how it all works before going further.
If you have any questions feel free to message me or hit me up on gtalk. I'll give you some tips, ideas, and some source code of apps to dig into, if you like.
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I should have added, I have a basic understanding of methods and classes, and we are just getting into objects now.
Thanks for all the responses guys! really appreciate the help.

also, if you guys have any suggestions for simple apps that a beginner like my self could make, fire away.

I applaud you for beginning a hobby/interest in programming early. Currently I'm a 2nd year student at a university for Computer Science so I have a very direct understanding of Java. You should know that structure of Java (for every day use) is different than that of the Java on Android.
Download the Android SDK: developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Follow all the steps of installation and DO the Hello, Android (World) app that it gives you. Make sure you UNDERSTAND everything on the screen and in your main class.
Continue reading all the Developer documents for the SDK here:
developer.android.com/guide/index.html

Joy2DaWurld said:
I applaud you for beginning a hobby/interest in programming early. Currently I'm a 2nd year student at a university for Computer Science so I have a very direct understanding of Java. You should know that structure of Java (for every day use) is different than that of the Java on Android.
Download the Android SDK: developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Follow all the steps of installation and DO the Hello, Android (World) app that it gives you. Make sure you UNDERSTAND everything on the screen and in your main class.
Continue reading all the Developer documents for the SDK here:
developer.android.com/guide/index.html
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Thanks! I had kind of figured that android developement would be a whole different beast.

Who is this "java" girl and why would you like to go in and out and in and out of her?

What can I say? Different strokes.

gonintendo said:
What can I say? Different strokes.
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Perhaps you would like to have a go at Missionary Java or K9 Java.

I can sell you my 'Programming with Alice and Java' textbook...if I find it. It has all the intro stuff. First it uses a program called Alice to teach you how it works, and then it teaches you to do actual code. When I find it I can tell you where it leaves off.

College student, Which classes should I take?

I will be starting college next semester for my first time practically with a major in CIS. I am interested in Linux development and more specifically Android development. Also web page development. I'm not entirely new to linux or android but I've never built a ROM or anything of that nature. My question is what classes should a freshman majoring in CIS be looking to enroll in. I'm sure I'll need Java and C but not sure what else. thanks for your help.

Ooo would like to know too. Planning to major in Computer Science next year when I leave for college so this would be nice.
Sorry if this is considered hijacking your thread. Dx

if you are single.... this is an obvious one...
YOGA
hawt chicks... everywhere. in stretchy pants.
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skinnyveganboy said:
I will be starting college next semester for my first time practically with a major in CIS. I am interested in Linux development and more specifically Android development. Also web page development. I'm not entirely new to linux or android but I've never built a ROM or anything of that nature. My question is what classes should a freshman majoring in CIS be looking to enroll in. I'm sure I'll need Java and C but not sure what else. thanks for your help.
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If you're particularly interested in Linux and Android those are both embedded systems. To some classes have classes dedicated specifically to embedded systems and kernel development (I'm taking one soon). In order to do this you'll need to know how to code and learn more about memory stacks and the way computer memory is allocated down to the very last bit.
I suggest learning java to start off. And kernels are actually coded in C. So you'll have to learn coding basics and get more in depth as you progress. As a freshman I would start off with learning java, I also suggest you take some of your own time to learn about kernel development before you actually take the class.
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-

Cool, I know how to code in c. Problem is java. xD Well I can more or less tell what a basic to average java code says, but can't write one. xD
Guess i'll hit up the schools on embedded systems and such.

Kailkti said:
Cool, I know how to code in c. Problem is java. xD Well I can more or less tell what a basic to average java code says, but can't write one. xD
Guess i'll hit up the schools on embedded systems and such.
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You don't NEED to know java, but it really helps understanding the concepts as C is a little more complicated than Java. Funny thing is, EVERY OS have a kernel. Even windows. Most people don't know that.
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-

Really? I thought java would be more complicated seeing as how c seems very robust, if I may say, and seems limited, e.g. cannot really have GUI.
I found out about windows having kernels last year too. Com sci at my high school is awesome which is why i want to take it up at college also. xP

Kailkti said:
Really? I thought java would be more complicated seeing as how c seems very robust, if I may say, and seems limited, e.g. cannot really have GUI.
I found out about windows having kernels last year too. Com sci at my high school is awesome which is why i want to take it up at college also. xP
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The thing that makes java easier is because it's object oriented. C is not...the fact that it's not so limited and anything can be anything (A string variable can even be an int.) is actually what makes it difficult for some people to grasp the concept. AND java can have a gui, Android applications are actually coded in hand, I'm also taking a course on java GUIs and all that nice stuff next semester too.
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-

Java and C share a lot of similarities, but generally speaking C is not object oriented, but Java is (C can be and Java doesn't have to be, but that's generally the way it is).
Object orientation is something that takes learning, regardless of what language it's in. It's a very powerful programming technique (if that's the correct word) that has a lot of advantages over non-OO programming techniques, and that obviously comes with a learning curve.
Definitely worth getting into, especially for app development.

Archer said:
Java and C share a lot of similarities, but generally speaking C is not object oriented, but Java is (C can be and Java doesn't have to be, but that's generally the way it is).
Object orientation is something that takes learning, regardless of what language it's in. It's a very powerful programming technique (if that's the correct word) that has a lot of advantages over non-OO programming techniques, and that obviously comes with a learning curve.
Definitely worth getting into, especially for app development.
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Stole the words right out of my mouth bud
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I_am_Error said:
The thing that makes java easier is because it's object oriented. C is not...the fact that it's not so limited and anything can be anything (A string variable can even be an int.) is actually what makes it difficult for some people to grasp the concept. AND java can have a gui, Android applications are actually coded in hand, I'm also taking a course on java GUIs and all that nice stuff next semester too.
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-
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Oh no i was talking about c programs not being able to really have a GUI, not java.
That's what I hate about my school in a way though, they switched from java to c.
Now that you mentioned it, I thought all other programming language allowed a string to contain numerical values since they are characters also, but I guess not. Guess that's another reason as to why c is still so popular due to its universitality.

Kailkti said:
Oh no i was talking about c programs not being able to really have a GUI, not java.
That's what I hate about my school in a way though, they switched from java to c.
Now that you mentioned it, I thought all other programming language allowed a string to contain numerical values since they are characters also, but I guess not. Guess that's another reason as to why c is still so popular due to its universitality.
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Well, a String can be an int but not really. More so, you're doing this String example = "126"; which make it equal to the characters. Not like String otherExample = 126; See the difference?
Plus, people use c because c "speaks" directly to the hardware. As a opposed to java which doesn't speak past the environment that java has set up for itself. C is an extremely useful language and I don't think it's going anywhere in the programming world.
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More or less i think i get what you're saying.
I see, so c speaks to the machine (now i see why it's used for the kernel development) while java only speaks on say a speak virtual machine level.

Kailkti said:
More or less i think i get what you're saying.
I see, so c speaks to the machine (now i see why it's used for the kernel development) while java only speaks on say a speak virtual machine level.
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Basically. That right there is more or less the reason why people code in C.
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-

Honestly, likely whatever your adviser says you should take. For my college, computer science courses are taken on a "if it's offered, take it. You can't afford to wait until next time it's offered." That being said, you probably will be lucky to take any until 2nd semester. You have gen eds to finish, which will probably fill up your schedule for at least a year (I'm not taking any major courses until 2nd semester of sophomore year).
In short, don't worry, you'll have time to feel it out and won't be slammed with a crapton of computer science courses and not know what to do.

Thanks a bunch for all your inputs. My wife and I are going to major together so we can bounce assignments off eachother and such. I know one of the college's admissions councilors so I'll just ask here what she recommends we take. but I think the most important thing we've all learned from this thread is that 'crapton' is one word...

hottubtimemachine said:
if you are single.... this is an obvious one...
YOGA
hawt chicks... everywhere. in stretchy pants.
stretchy. pants. @[email protected]
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Yeaaaaa @[email protected]
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College Major to be and Android Developer?

I like making roms but I would like to take this to a whole new level and find a major that would me improve my rom development skills.
Anyone know exactly what that/those majors would be?
So far I've looked into computer science and computer engineering.

Just search the different coding languages on the advanced class search and take those. The other 75% of classes may prove useless.
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-x]Trunks[x- said:
I like making roms but I would like to take this to a whole new level and find a major that would me improve my rom development skills.
Anyone know exactly what that/those majors would be?
So far I've looked into computer science and computer engineering.
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It depends on what part of ROM making you like. Computer engineering is obviously more hardware related and CS is more software and algorithms based.
I can't speak for all programs, but I go to the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and our CompE program is mixed with electrical engineering. So I'm forced to take electrical engineering classes I have absolutely zero interest in. I honestly wish I would have done CS, as I've found it much easier, less harsh, and I don't have to take EE courses.
ECE at Illinois is almost like being tossed into battle right away. You get one intro course that's what I would consider "fair". Almost all courses after that attempt to weed you out of the major.
So my advice would be to go for CS, you'll probably like it more and it'll make your college experience a hell of a lot more enjoyable. CS is in no way easy, but it's nicer to you than CompE.

Yep, do CS + maybe IT, since IT is pretty effortless and will give you a great backup plan if google won't hire you for software development.

TechSavvy2 said:
Just search the different coding languages on the advanced class search and take those. The other 75% of classes may prove useless.
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CS majors end up taking required courses in Java and C++. CompE has a heavier focus on C and assembly, at least this is what I have experienced.

Developing help

Hey guys I've been flashing and rooting and unlocking for a couple years and I'd like to actually learn how to build roms, apps, ect. Where can I learn?
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I think the best place to start learning how to develop apps is the official android SDK with adt. but if building android is what you want then take any Linux distro and start reading about official aosp. information for both are publicly available from Google.

frog1982 said:
I think the best place to start learning how to develop apps is the official android SDK with adt. but if building android is what you want then take any Linux distro and start reading about official aosp. information for both are publicly available from Google.
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Linux is, like, mac or something right? I'm on Windows 7 so am I screwed?

Blackest Pain said:
Linux is, like, mac or something right? I'm on Windows 7 so am I screwed?
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Read this.
Good luck!
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html
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Blackest Pain said:
Linux is, like, mac or something right? I'm on Windows 7 so am I screwed?
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buy a decent sized harddrive and install ubuntu or mint linux on it. then you can dual boot win7 and linux like me. Just start tooling around with the linux command line (terminal) and learning how to think like a geek lol. Then take someones rom, and take it all apart. look at what makes up a rom... the apps, libs, frameworks, etc. Setup a build environment on your linux box, download the official source code from google, and try compiling it until you can do so without errors. at that point, if you want to start actually deving, you need to know java, cuz that's what source code is in mostly. there are alot of source code modifications avaiable on xda, try merging one in with the source code and rebuilding it and see if it compiles... if not, it''ll tell you where the error is. just play around with it, practice, ask questions, but actually jumping in and just making your self do it is the best way

Youngunn2008 said:
buy a decent sized harddrive and install ubuntu or mint linux on it. then you can dual boot win7 and linux like me. Just start tooling around with the linux command line (terminal) and learning how to think like a geek lol. Then take someones rom, and take it all apart. look at what makes up a rom... the apps, libs, frameworks, etc. Setup a build environment on your linux box, download the official source code from google, and try compiling it until you can do so without errors. at that point, if you want to start actually deving, you need to know java, cuz that's what source code is in mostly. there are alot of source code modifications avaiable on xda, try merging one in with the source code and rebuilding it and see if it compiles... if not, it''ll tell you where the error is. just play around with it, practice, ask questions, but actually jumping in and just making your self do it is the best way
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Thanks What size hard drive do you recommend and what rom should I dismantle?
(I'd thank both of you but apparently there's a thanks limit I didn't know about...)

each aosp build is about 30 gigs and Linux takes almost no room no matter which distro you use so when it comes to the size of the HDD it is all about the balance of how often you want to clean and how much you want to spend.

frog1982 said:
each aosp build is about 30 gigs and Linux takes almost no room no matter which distro you use so when it comes to the size of the HDD it is all about the balance of how often you want to clean and how much you want to spend.
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That. I'll add that, on my PC, Linux uses 20GB of space...but I also have two distros installed on the same partiton with one being a chrooted build environment.
Roms use around 20-30GB as is, another 15-20GB is used up when compiling, so you want to reserve 40-50GB PER ROM to be safe.
If you do buy a hard drive just for compiling roms, BUY A SSD...solid state drive. That and RAM will help you the most. I'd expect just a SSD alone would cut my current build times in half.
I'll tell ya that without any Linux experience at all that you're gonna be in for a nice fun time.
Now, if you just wanna write apps, LEARN JAVA. You can do app writing on Windows and test on an Android Emulator (or your phone for at matter). No Linux necessary for just writing apps.
That said, if you want to get into compiling roms, you've picked the right place because I will help you if your serious. If you ask me a SPECIFIC QUESTION I'll give a specific answer. Don't ask "How do I use git?" cause I might not reply very nicely. Ask me "How do I update the kernel with the Dev Teams latest updates and I'll give you step by step instructions. I'm about to have 3 different roms I'm gonna have to compile. So if you just wanna pick one of them that isn't PAC, feel free to be the compiler of it. So far I've had multiple offers for compilers and only @Youngunn2008 has stepped up and actually started doing it.
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//I started building custom roms about a year into using Android. Had to. Nobody else on my device could (or would?) and I wanted more roms, simple as that. All I did was CM7, PA, and a few others, but it got me to where I am now. Kanged from Quarx's repos. I owe much of my Android knowledge just from watching his commit history (and for keeping us up-to-date with proper drivers). A good Dev Base is a good place to start from, just remember to give proper credit and thanks (and ask permission if it isn't open souce -- that's a big one).

You guys are the best. I'm gonna start looking for the equipment asap. Although I need to learn how to write code, so I'm gonna go through Java.
@skeevydude I'll definitely hit you up when I need serious help
P.s. where do you recommend I learn Java from?
Thanks everyone!
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Blackest Pain said:
You guys are the best. I'm gonna start looking for the equipment asap. Although I need to learn how to write code, so I'm gonna go through Java.
@skeevydude I'll definitely hit you up when I need serious help
P.s. where do you recommend I learn Java from?
Thanks everyone!
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http://developer.android.com/training/index.html

frog1982 said:
http://developer.android.com/training/index.html
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I'd click Thanks but I've seemed to run out of them (seriously, 8 thanks a day? Really?), so thanks. I can't read script at all (It's like looking a spanish, knowing it's spanish, and not knowing what it says) but I'll try to stumble through this lol

Blackest Pain said:
I'd click Thanks but I've seemed to run out of them (seriously, 8 thanks a day? Really?), so thanks. I can't read script at all (It's like looking a spanish, knowing it's spanish, and not knowing what it says) but I'll try to stumble through this lol
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my suggestion is to download the SDK and start following the my first app tutorial. I did not understand code at all until I did that and then things started falling into place and making sense.

Blackest Pain said:
You guys are the best. I'm gonna start looking for the equipment asap. Although I need to learn how to write code, so I'm gonna go through Java.
@skeevydude I'll definitely hit you up when I need serious help
P.s. where do you recommend I learn Java from?
Thanks everyone!
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Couldn't tell ya where to learn Java from -- I don't know it. I'm starting to learn it myself...meaning today....but it really depends on the weather on what I can for the rest of the day -- lost internet for most of yesterday during a thunderstom and since another one is rolling in I might have to shut my machines down. Also why I haven't been on a whole lot the past 2 days. After today its supposed to be clear skies ahead.
I've just been lucky cause even though I don't know Java, its still pretty human readable and easy to figure out what I need to do when I merge code.
For a bit of help Java=Apps, C++=Kernel/Hardware. Not necessarily 100% true, but for the most part it is.
If you wanna get into writing apps for making money then start with Java....the only reason why I'm starting with Java over C++. As much as I'd like to learn C++\Bionic to help with bug fixes for the kernel, hardware libraries, etc, I'm flat broke and can't find a decent job -- Java and a good idea could fix that. Combine my current situation with the fact that in 10-15 years I won't even be able to do my current line of work (construction is a young man's job) so I need to buckle down and learn a new trade that doesn't involve 8-12 hours work in the sun, crap pay, sore body at the end of every day, and no real job security or benefits.
If anyone reading the above is thinking that I'm thinking I could be the next App Millionaire...I'm not. I'd be happy just to break the poverty line (1-3 thousand a month or more than 18k a year)....cost of living isn't that high in Arkansas luckily. I'd hate to live in NYC\Random Big City where a crappy 1 room apartment's rent is a high as a high-end middle class home here.

skeevydude said:
Couldn't tell ya where to learn Java from -- I don't know it. I'm starting to learn it myself...meaning today....but it really depends on the weather on what I can for the rest of the day -- lost internet for most of yesterday during a thunderstom and since another one is rolling in I might have to shut my machines down. Also why I haven't been on a whole lot the past 2 days. After today its supposed to be clear skies ahead.
I've just been lucky cause even though I don't know Java, its still pretty human readable and easy to figure out what I need to do when I merge code.
For a bit of help Java=Apps, C++=Kernel/Hardware. Not necessarily 100% true, but for the most part it is.
If you wanna get into writing apps for making money then start with Java....the only reason why I'm starting with Java over C++. As much as I'd like to learn C++\Bionic to help with bug fixes for the kernel, hardware libraries, etc, I'm flat broke and can't find a decent job -- Java and a good idea could fix that. Combine my current situation with the fact that in 10-15 years I won't even be able to do my current line of work (construction is a young man's job) so I need to buckle down and learn a new trade that doesn't involve 8-12 hours work in the sun, crap pay, sore body at the end of every day, and no real job security or benefits.
If anyone reading the above is thinking that I'm thinking I could be the next App Millionaire...I'm not. I'd be happy just to break the poverty line (1-3 thousand a month or more than 18k a year)....cost of living isn't that high in Arkansas luckily. I'd hate to live in NYC\Random Big City where a crappy 1 room apartment's rent is a high as a high-end middle class home here.
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I would also recommend Java. I'm in an internship developing an Android app for a local company and it's pretty straightforward. I'm not very good at building GUIs, but I can manage the flow of code fairly well and I'm learning as I go.
I didn't know you were in construction, Skeevy... With how skilled you seem in all of this I would have thought you'd be from some sort of tech trade.
I've been looking into ROM development myself but it seems a bit overwhelming to me. I have always been interested in how operating systems are put together and built, but the most complex thing I've ever done was patch together a Linux server box for gaming and hosting an old website I had a year or two back.
I have worked with Linux for quite a while and I now run Ubuntu as a primary, no dualboot. It kinda sucks to get used to the lack of applications but I would much rather have the stability and responsiveness of a Linux system. Plus documentation is everywhere so anything is usually fairly easy to fix/get working.
If you guys could post some websites/threads with some tutorials or further reading so I can know what I am getting myself into, that would be awesome. I have always hoped that one day I'd be able to help you guys out with getting bugs squashed and features added.

spy_1134 said:
I would also recommend Java. I'm in an internship developing an Android app for a local company and it's pretty straightforward. I'm not very good at building GUIs, but I can manage the flow of code fairly well and I'm learning as I go.
I didn't know you were in construction, Skeevy... With how skilled you seem in all of this I would have thought you'd be from some sort of tech trade.
I've been looking into ROM development myself but it seems a bit overwhelming to me. I have always been interested in how operating systems are put together and built, but the most complex thing I've ever done was patch together a Linux server box for gaming and hosting an old website I had a year or two back.
I have worked with Linux for quite a while and I now run Ubuntu as a primary, no dualboot. It kinda sucks to get used to the lack of applications but I would much rather have the stability and responsiveness of a Linux system. Plus documentation is everywhere so anything is usually fairly easy to fix/get working.
If you guys could post some websites/threads with some tutorials or further reading so I can know what I am getting myself into, that would be awesome. I have always hoped that one day I'd be able to help you guys out with getting bugs squashed and features added.
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GUI's are a pita to me as well...but then again, I'm barley mediocre at photoshop
I used to make good money doing what I do, and I liked doing it. I was doing custom wrought iron fences and gates -- the kind you see on high end lake houses and such. Since around September of '08 that line of work went from 30-50 hours a week to nothing....NOTHING. We've had maybe 6 jobs in the past 5 years nothing. Every job I've had since then has either gone under or I was let go because I was the new guy and they had too much costs in labor. Combine that with 2 years of 10 applications a week and not getting a single call back....almost applied and McD's a year ago. Asked how much I'd make and the manager said maybe 4 hours in a 7 day week for the first 6 months to a year....F THAT. Wouldn't have even covered the gas to work...no point in a job that you'd make -$15 for two weeks work....that's negative 15.
As far as my trade and tech are concerned -- I've always been naturally skilled at almost everything I've done. Not bragging, but that's always how things have been for me. My biggest weakness is I have crap social skills -- I have a bad tendency to see everything with pure logic and over analyze things, completely missing things like sarcasm and subtle hints. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out I had Asperger's.
Rom development and rom building (kanging) are two different things entirely. If you're already running Ubuntu (preferably 12.04) I could have you building a rom in no time at all.
Its nothing more following the official build setup guide (assloads of copy/paste )
making a directory for the rom
open a terminal to that directory
"repo init -u https://github.com/PAC-man/android.xml -b cm-10.1"
"repo sync"
". build-pac.sh mb886 -jX" where X is the number of cores your PC has
Do something else for a few hours
Check PC -- if the rom fully compiled then you've just kanged PAC-man
To update, go to rom's directory, "make clean", step 5, step 6.
Adding support for other roms is as simple as seeing what other devs\kangers did in the project's vendor directory as well as in the device/common-device directories. It really is simple once you've done it a few times -- first time or two can be a real b*tch.
My only real gripe with linux is some of the apps either just don't seem finished or are just good enough to do the job but look like crap. For me, other than gaming, I've been able to find a suitable replacement for all my common, everyday needs from emulation to video encoding to word processing.
As far as tutorials go....I just use Google, XDA search, and rootzwiki.com search...between the three I can pretty much find anything I need to know. Power searching is the unwritten requirement in all the tutorials I've ever read. Being able to scour the net for odd bits of information is a necessary skill to kang or dev roms.
//Lack of search skills is a reason some of us power users get upset and pissy around here...myself anyways...I can't tell ya how many help questions I've answered where I LITERALLY copy/pasted the error code in the help post to the google search box in Firefox and the FIRST LINK the fix....also why I don't answer the same question more than 2 or 3 times....search just our forums and you might find the answer. :whodathunkit: (// isn't at you, my mind likes to rant in the mornings )

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Couldn't tell ya where to learn Java from -- I don't know it. I'm starting to learn it myself...meaning today....but it really depends on the weather on what I can for the rest of the day -- lost internet for most of yesterday during a thunderstom and since another one is rolling in I might have to shut my machines down. Also why I haven't been on a whole lot the past 2 days. After today its supposed to be clear skies ahead.
I've just been lucky cause even though I don't know Java, its still pretty human readable and easy to figure out what I need to do when I merge code.
For a bit of help Java=Apps, C++=Kernel/Hardware. Not necessarily 100% true, but for the most part it is.
If you wanna get into writing apps for making money then start with Java....the only reason why I'm starting with Java over C++. As much as I'd like to learn C++\Bionic to help with bug fixes for the kernel, hardware libraries, etc, I'm flat broke and can't find a decent job -- Java and a good idea could fix that. Combine my current situation with the fact that in 10-15 years I won't even be able to do my current line of work (construction is a young man's job) so I need to buckle down and learn a new trade that doesn't involve 8-12 hours work in the sun, crap pay, sore body at the end of every day, and no real job security or benefits.
If anyone reading the above is thinking that I'm thinking I could be the next App Millionaire...I'm not. I'd be happy just to break the poverty line (1-3 thousand a month or more than 18k a year)....cost of living isn't that high in Arkansas luckily. I'd hate to live in NYC\Random Big City where a crappy 1 room apartment's rent is a high as a high-end middle class home here.
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spy_1134 said:
If you guys could post some websites/threads with some tutorials or further reading so I can know what I am getting myself into, that would be awesome. I have always hoped that one day I'd be able to help you guys out with getting bugs squashed and features added.
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I'm in high school but I REALLY don't want to work at a fast food place, so this like a good way to earn so change. Once I get out, this will (hopefully) become more of a hobby for the next 25 yrs as I'm training to become an Electrician. Then when I'm done and in the early retirement that seems to come with many people in that field I'll hop back onto this. I also second that idea with the idea of website tutorials lol.

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I'm in high school but I REALLY don't want to work at a fast food place, so this like a good way to earn so change. Once I get out, this will (hopefully) become more of a hobby for the next 25 yrs as I'm training to become an Electrician. Then when I'm done and in the early retirement that seems to come with many people in that field I'll hop back onto this. I also second that idea with the idea of website tutorials lol.
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Electrician is a good trade to get into. I wouldn't mind being an electrician actually. Especially since I know enough contracters, house flippers, and landlords that are always needing electrical done and hate paying the electrician (they can pretty much write their own check cause you GOTTA have that LICENSE to touch ANY wire)....why I always built my gates to run on a 12V solar setup (more reliable and I don't need a license to mount a panel and hook it up to a car battery; not to mention a grand cheaper).
Look, I'd post some links, but the best links are banned from a site like this where ethics matter. I'm broke so I can't afford the ebooks if ya know what I mean...hint, hint...find good looking book with positive reviews, google search "name of book .epub", ????, profit.
//see my above post for a quick glance at what McD's offered me....TL : DR version....negative 15 a week cause I factored in a thing called gas money.