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Hellbent on Xperia Z1. Work on tmobileusa HSPA+42? Where to buy? Bootloader locked?

Hi all! I really want to buy the Xperia Z1 but I'm an american and I might have to import it. I keep on looking at a site called Negri. I want to buy it unlocked but it has to work on tmobile's HSPA+42 network. I hear there are different models but I don't see model listing numbers on any sites for preorder. My phone currently is a lg G2x. I've tried many custom roms but its on its last legs.
I keep on looking at sony.com and sony mobile.com but I don't even see it for preorder (usa sites). Is the Negri the international version?
If anyone knows anything please give me a hand. Also is the bootloader locked?

mas5acre said:
Hi all! I really want to buy the Xperia Z1 but I'm an american and I might have to import it. I keep on looking at a site called Negri. I want to buy it unlocked but it has to work on tmobile's HSPA+42 network. I hear there are different models but I don't see model listing numbers on any sites for preorder. My phone currently is a lg G2x. I've tried many custom roms but its on its last legs.
I keep on looking at sony.com and sony mobile.com but I don't even see it for preorder (usa sites). Is the Negri the international version?
If anyone knows anything please give me a hand. Also is the bootloader locked?
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I've been looking at Negri's site also for the Z1. According to the spec description, all the necessary bands are there for it to work on T-Mo. I say you contact Negri customer service to confirm that or just wait till the phone is released on T-Mo. With T-Mo carrying the Z, I wouldn't count them out on carrying the Z1. Just for your reference, my international HOX is getting the 3G sign on T-Mo instead of the H.

Order from clove.co.uk or handtec.co.uk
they are better than negrielectronics, plus usually negri kinda lags on their shipping dates because they get their devices from wholesalers or dealers w/e.
order from the above sites, its about 20 dollars cheaper, and you get a FREE SMART WATCH ($250)!!!!
plus they will get the device starting on the 16th, so it will ship 16-20, with 1-3 day shipping to the US.
The devices sold by these two companies are C6903 which have all the freq/bands for t-mobile. So it should work unless something horrible goes wrong when we get them (doesnt work lol).

expertzero1 said:
Order from clove.co.uk or handtec.co.uk
they are better than negrielectronics, plus usually negri kinda lags on their shipping dates because they get their devices from wholesalers or dealers w/e.
order from the above sites, its about 20 dollars cheaper, and you get a FREE SMART WATCH ($250)!!!!
plus they will get the device starting on the 16th, so it will ship 16-20, with 1-3 day shipping to the US.
The devices sold by these two companies are C6903 which have all the freq/bands for t-mobile. So it should work unless something horrible goes wrong when we get them (doesnt work lol).
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Hi all,
I just recently switched to T-Mobile from Sprint, so please excuse my ignorance.
I'm looking to pre-order the phone from one of 2 UK sites; www.clove.co.uk and/or www.unlocked-mobiles.com.
Does the phone need to be unlocked for use of T-Mobile?
Are phones from UK auto unlocked or do I need to check with these 2 companies?

expertzero1 said:
Order from clove.co.uk or handtec.co.uk
they are better than negrielectronics, plus usually negri kinda lags on their shipping dates because they get their devices from wholesalers or dealers w/e.
order from the above sites, its about 20 dollars cheaper, and you get a FREE SMART WATCH ($250)!!!!
plus they will get the device starting on the 16th, so it will ship 16-20, with 1-3 day shipping to the US.
The devices sold by these two companies are C6903 which have all the freq/bands for t-mobile. So it should work unless something horrible goes wrong when we get them (doesnt work lol).
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Thanks for the source for ordering the Z1 in Europe. These are really great deals, Negri is pretty much $50 more (that's what it looks like when I run the conversion on XE.com) and there's no smart watch offer. Hopefully I'll be able to save up enough before these deals are gone.
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Kcyen18 said:
Hi all,
I just recently switched to T-Mobile from Sprint, so please excuse my ignorance.
I'm looking to pre-order the phone from one of 2 UK sites; www.clove.co.uk and/or www.unlocked-mobiles.com.
Does the phone need to be unlocked for use of T-Mobile?
Are phones from UK auto unlocked or do I need to check with these 2 companies?
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The phones on the sites above should be unlocked. You should probably pick between clove and handtec that were recommended, unlock-mobiles offers the phone around the same price, but doesn't have the offer for free Sony Smart Watch 2. Clove and handtec will be the better deal.

Kcyen18 said:
Hi all,
I just recently switched to T-Mobile from Sprint, so please excuse my ignorance.
I'm looking to pre-order the phone from one of 2 UK sites; www.clove.co.uk and/or www.unlocked-mobiles.com.
Does the phone need to be unlocked for use of T-Mobile?
Are phones from UK auto unlocked or do I need to check with these 2 companies?
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Just like Gwuhua, they are unlocked. Buying from these resellers are unlocked. Preorder from clove or handtec, I read that they are on backorder, but you will still receive your phone/watch
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expertzero1 said:
Just like Gwuhua, they are unlocked. Buying from these resellers are unlocked. Preorder from clove or handtec, I read that they are on backorder, but you will still receive your phone/watch
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Tks for your response!
I'll go ahead and look into Handtec, but as for warranty repairs, can I send it to Sony USA or do I have to send it to UK should anything happen to the phone?

Kcyen18 said:
Tks for your response!
I'll go ahead and look into Handtec, but as for warranty repairs, can I send it to Sony USA or do I have to send it to UK should anything happen to the phone?
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Back to UK/ reseller (handtec or clove or whoever)
Just wish you get a nione lemon
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Kcyen18 said:
Tks for your response!
I'll go ahead and look into Handtec, but as for warranty repairs, can I send it to Sony USA or do I have to send it to UK should anything happen to the phone?
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I've put the product in the basket and almost went through the ordering process just so I could see the actual USD total in Paypal. The cost is running close to $78X.XX which is quite high, but do remember, they're throwing in the smartwatch 2 which is worth at least $250. Just want to make sure you don't get shocked by the bill. Paypal may or may not be using the currency rate from XE.com or other currency sites.

I ordered mine from HandTec UK and it is 1-3 day FedEx shipping to the US. The cool thing is that it also comes with a free Smartwatch 2! I checked with T-Mobile and the unlocked Xperia Z1 should support all the bands for HSPA and 4G LTE.

OMEiAM said:
I ordered mine from HandTec UK and it is 1-3 day FedEx shipping to the US. The cool thing is that it also comes with a free Smartwatch 2! I checked with T-Mobile and the unlocked Xperia Z1 should support all the bands for HSPA and 4G LTE.
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What's the total you paid?

gwuhua1984 said:
What's the total you paid?
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$793.22

OMEiAM said:
$793.22
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I paid $769 and change through Clove but chose the less expensive shipping option.

negri is offering the bundle now.. 780 something

Bought my purple Hong Kong C6903 variant in early October from Negri, and couldn't be happier! LTE works great on T-Mobile USA!

Is the UK Z3C same as Indian Z3C?

I live in India and am planning to buy Z3C from UK as the prices there (Handtec or Clove) are at least INR 10,000 less than what I have to pay for it in India where it is priced at a ridiculous INR 45K. The Z1C is available for around INR 15K less than Z3C now in India and I'm wondering if this 15K difference is even worth it? Anyways, my friend who is coming from UK can buy it for me. Even if Sony India do not honor the warranty on it I think 10000 price difference justify my risk. I also see that Handtec gives 24 months warranty on it while I get only one year warranty in India.
My question is does the UK version that Handtec sell has LTE 4G and will that work in India? Is this exactly the same device as sold in India?
Thanks,

coolmalayalee said:
I live in India and am planning to buy Z3C from UK as the prices there (Handtec or Clove) are at least INR 10,000 less than what I have to pay for it in India where it is priced at a ridiculous INR 45K. The Z1C is available for around INR 15K less than Z3C now in India and I'm wondering if this 15K difference is even worth it? Anyways, my friend who is coming from UK can buy it for me. Even if Sony India do not honor the warranty on it I think 10000 price difference justify my risk. I also see that Handtec gives 24 months warranty on it while I get only one year warranty in India.
My question is does the UK version that Handtec sell has LTE 4G and will that work in India? Is this exactly the same device as sold in India?
Thanks,
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They are different. UK models are D5803, while Indian model is D5833. D5833 is the only model that has "2300 TD-LTE", which is used in India.

shahulvm said:
They are different. UK models are D5803, while Indian model is D5833. D5833 is the only model that has "2300 TD-LTE", which is used in India.
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But, if I dont need the LTE 4G in India, I should be fine right? I mean will it have any effect on 3G connectivity in India? A such 4G LTE coverage is very limited in India and I live in a place where I dont expect to get LTE 4G any time soon.

coolmalayalee said:
But, if I dont need the LTE 4G in India, I should be fine right? I mean will it have any effect on 3G connectivity in India? A such 4G LTE coverage is very limited in India and I live in a place where I dont expect to get LTE 4G any time soon.
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Should be fine :good:

coolmalayalee said:
I live in India and am planning to buy Z3C from UK as the prices there (Handtec or Clove) are at least INR 10,000 less than what I have to pay for it in India where it is priced at a ridiculous INR 45K. The Z1C is available for around INR 15K less than Z3C now in India and I'm wondering if this 15K difference is even worth it? Anyways, my friend who is coming from UK can buy it for me. Even if Sony India do not honor the warranty on it I think 10000 price difference justify my risk. I also see that Handtec gives 24 months warranty on it while I get only one year warranty in India.
My question is does the UK version that Handtec sell has LTE 4G and will that work in India? Is this exactly the same device as sold in India?
Thanks,
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Hey, I'm also from India and interested in buying the Z3C from Clove. Can you let me know how it goes? If everything works fine with our Indian networks.
About the warrany I sent an email to Clove and they said it's only valid in Europe. So that might be a problem but for INR 10,000 cheaper it's certianly worth it.
Thanks, hope you get the device and everything works perfectly. Please let me how it works out for you :good:

Aniruddha10 said:
Hey, I'm also from India and interested in buying the Z3C from Clove. Can you let me know how it goes? If everything works fine with our Indian networks.
About the warrany I sent an email to Clove and they said it's only valid in Europe. So that might be a problem but for INR 10,000 cheaper it's certianly worth it.
Thanks, hope you get the device and everything works perfectly. Please let me how it works out for you :good:
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Please dont count on me on this. I'm still debating whether to purchase from outside and if so, from UK or US. I have decided that even if I am purchasing it will be the D5833 model, the one sold in India. It is available in US. It will be at least a month or two before I get these though. I am waiting for the prices to drop further. Meanwhile my three year old GS-II is still rocking.

coolmalayalee said:
Please dont count on me on this. I'm still debating whether to purchase from outside and if so, from UK or US. I have decided that even if I am purchasing it will be the D5833 model, the one sold in India. It is available in US. It will be at least a month or two before I get these though. I am waiting for the prices to drop further. Meanwhile my three year old GS-II is still rocking.
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Alright, that's fine. Just let me know if you get the device.
Thanks a lot, appreciate it

Aniruddha10 said:
Alright, that's fine. Just let me know if you get the device.
Thanks a lot, appreciate it
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BTW, I took the plunge finally. My friend purchased it for me in USA for US$ 515 from the Ebay seller never-msrp who is well reputed. That works out to about INR 31000. I bought the D5833, the model sony is selling in India. It will be at least 3 weeks before I get it though

[Q] Droid Turbo works outside of the US?

Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?

fba9398 said:
Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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The turbo covers hsdpa 850 so it should work fine on 3g. You'd just need to add the correct apn
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Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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fba9398 said:
Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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Why not buy the mexican version who is already unlocked and with the correct bands?.

Galaxo60 said:
Why not buy the mexican version who is already unlocked and with the correct bands?.
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Because I don't know when the Mexican version (Moto Maxx) is coming out and probably the price is going to be around $800, that's the price in Brazil while the Verizon version is going to be rough $650

fba9398 said:
Because I don't know when the Mexican version (Moto Maxx) is coming out and probably the price is going to be around $800, that's the price in Brazil while the Verizon version is going to be rough $650
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Brazil and Mexico are really different countries, so also the prices are. The Moto Maxx start to sell on Nov 13, and it will cost the same as the Verizon version. The only version that Motorola would be selling here is the Ballistic Nylon version with 64GB. All the information was from the yesterday's announcement, so I guess it's a better option.
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Galaxo60 said:
Brazil and Mexico are really different countries, so also the prices are. The Moto Maxx start to sell on Nov 13, and it will cost the same as the Verizon version. The only version that Motorola would be selling here is the Ballistic Nylon version with 64GB. All the information was from the yesterday's announcement, so I guess it's a better option.
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Where did you get that info? Can I get a link?

Works great sure . Using it in Italy. LTE perfrct working too.
Best in the world !! Turbo
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fba9398 said:
Where did you get that info? Can I get a link?
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As I wrote before, the information was from the announcement here in Mexico; here you go:
http://blogmotorolalatam.blogspot.mx/2014/11/moto-maxx-elige-vivir-la-vida-sin.html

Youre right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?

Galaxo60 said:
As I wrote before, the information was from the announcement here in Mexico; here you go:
http://blogmotorolalatam.blogspot.mx/2014/11/moto-maxx-elige-vivir-la-vida-sin.html
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You're right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?

fba9398 said:
Youre right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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fba9398 said:
You're right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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I know for sure that people would be selling them in eBay or a page called "Mercado Libre", that is kind of the mexican eBay. In Mercado Libre they already sell all the newest phones at very reasonable prices; you can always ask to some vendor if he is willing to make international shipping, because some vendors do it and some don't.
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Galaxo60 said:
I know for sure that people would be selling them in eBay or a page called "Mercado Libre", that is kind of the mexican eBay. In Mercado Libre they already sell all the newest phones at very reasonable prices; you can always ask to some vendor if he is willing to make international shipping, because some vendors do it and some don't.
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Actually in Costa Rica we also have Mercadolibre, but here the phones are about $300 to $400 more, with eBay the problem is that the prices of new phones are almost $200 more because its hard to get, I'll definitely look in the mexican mercadolibre but I need around the same cost as the phone, you think that Motorola Mexico would do international shipping?

fba9398 said:
Actually in Costa Rica we also have Mercadolibre, but here the phones are about $300 to $400 more, with eBay the problem is that the prices of new phones are almost $200 more because its hard to get, I'll definitely look in the mexican mercadolibre but I need around the same cost as the phone, you think that Motorola Mexico would do international shipping?
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The page in Motorola Mexico doesn't allow to do international shipping, because the address it get is from the CP you enter in the form, I tried with couple of CP from USA and the form was showing cities from Mexico, so I guess the buy is not possible directly from Motorola page.

Galaxo60 said:
The page in Motorola Mexico doesn't allow to do international shipping, because the address it get is from the CP you enter in the form, I tried with couple of CP from USA and the form was showing cities from Mexico, so I guess the buy is not possible directly from Motorola page.
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Is there any information on which are the Latin American countries that will get the phone? Maybe Central America?

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Is there any information on which are the Latin American countries that will get the phone? Maybe Central America?
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As far as I know, it will be Mexico and Brazil for now, and some other countries maybe next year.

wolfgart said:
Works great sure . Using it in Italy. LTE perfrct working too.
Best in the world !! Turbo
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hello friend, friend where I buy the DROID TURBO ???
thank you

Will U.S. Amazon site get INT'L Xperia X Perf at the same time as other countries???

Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!

RockStar2005 said:
Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!
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check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.

kms108 said:
check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.
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kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???

RockStar2005 said:
kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???
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VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.

kms108 said:
VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.
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kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!

RockStar2005 said:
kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!
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I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem, HK only has the dual sim version, the second sim is a hybrid sim/micro sd, but that isn't a problem as I can get them both working together.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100

kms108 said:
I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around me can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this from happening the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!

RockStar2005 said:
kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!
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HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.

kms108 said:
HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.
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Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.

RockStar2005 said:
Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.
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If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.

kms108 said:
If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.
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Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??

RockStar2005 said:
Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??
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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.

kms108 said:
If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.
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You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol

RockStar2005 said:
You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol
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Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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MGSBigBoss said:
Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??

RockStar2005 said:
F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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MGSBigBoss said:
Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.

RockStar2005 said:
Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol

RockStar2005 said:
You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol
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I really don't know yet. I'm tempted to just stay with my z3v which has volte and hdvoice on verizon lol
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Where the unlocked international Dual-sim 256gb Note 8 will show up?

Experts,
What will be the best trusted online shopping site should I keep my eye at to wait for the unlocked international Dual-sim 256gb variant of the Note 8 to show up for buyers ?
regards,
Hasan

Don't think you'll find it in that size, only 64Gb

shollywood said:
Don't think you'll find it in that size, only 64Gb
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if you dont what we are talking about.....please leave it to the EXPERTS as my question was addressed to.

I am no expert but the 128 and 256 are S. Korea only at this time, no word on if or when they might be for sale elsewhere.

krabman said:
I am no expert but the 128 and 256 are S. Korea only at this time, no word on if or when they might be for sale elsewhere.
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Yes I KNOW.
my question was in what site will it show up... if it ever do.
and BTW the 256gb is already available on ebay to be shipped internationaly...but only the single sim

Ah, so we're talking grey market. In that case first will be eBay but which outfits are hard to guess. One of those will likely be reasonably reliable, seems like the international phones didn't get the jump US phones did though, my FD didn't ship until Friday.

Krabman, Where did you get your FD please?

hasan_dubais said:
Experts,
What will be the best trusted online shopping site should I keep my eye at to wait for the unlocked international Dual-sim 256gb variant of the Note 8 to show up for buyers ?
regards,
Hasan
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hasan_dubais said:
if you dont what we are talking about.....please leave it to the EXPERTS as my question was addressed to.
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there is no 256GB dual sim...lol

XATAGuy said:
Krabman, Where did you get your FD please?
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JTBC Global, eBay

shollywood said:
there is no 256GB dual sim...lol
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Not ...yet!

krabman said:
JTBC Global, eBay
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I saw that one but it's missing a couple bands. Looking for the UK Dual SIM as it seems to have all the bands the US does....

Krabman! Is JTBC Legit? Do you have your phone in your hand? Is it an FD? Is there any issue with region lock on the FD?
Thank you!!!!!

I answered your PM but I can get back here if others are interested, phone arrives tomorrow, it shipped on the 9th but lagged in customs for a few days.

Thanks for the info. I ordered one from them as well, but I wasn't able to view the model number. I hope it is an "FD".

I would be curious to see which CSC this phone will have and if you will be able to use Samsung Pay with the US sim card. I have a S8+, supposedly with Taiwanese CSC and can't use SP - it requires a Korean sim card.

hasan_dubais said:
Yes I KNOW.
my question was in what site will it show up... if it ever do.
and BTW the 256gb is already available on ebay to be shipped internationaly...but only the single sim
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if it ever does.

i bought the regular one on ebay for 1200
256 GB blue
coming Saturday. i don't mind if it's not FD

It's not FD, it's single SIM, Korean model, it's clearly stated in the description.

XATAGuy said:
Thanks for the info. I ordered one from them as well, but I wasn't able to view the model number. I hope it is an "FD".
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Yep, it's FD, both SIMS in and working fine. No, it's not region locked. Yes, it's a carrier phone. No, you are not stuck with useless bloat, it's stock Sammy but downloads a few apps during setup which you can delete. You didn't ask but you'll be glad to know they threw in a US Samsung charger.
I'm not sure if this constitutes taunting or not but I haven't been on Sammy since the Note 7 and I'd forgotten how many features they have salted all over the place. I've been screwing around for hours and still haven't got my setup in yet.
Oh, one other, other thing. I didn't see any way to enable LTE on both SIMS, it seems you can do either one but not both together. Isn't an issue for me but that bugs some people although I don't recall ever having a phone that could.

http://bgr.com/2017/07/26/galaxy-note-8-specs-ram-and-storage/