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[Q] New Moto X hoping for unlock Bootloader, avoid OTA's ?

Just picked up a new ATT Moto X yesterday and hoping someone figures out how to unlock the Bootloader.
Would it be best to not take any OTA's ( like the camera update OTA ) and any future OTA's ? My thought is that the people working on figuring out an unlock are prob working on the original first ROM since release.
If anyone here is trying to crack the bootloader, are you working mainly with the original ROM ?
Thanks,
J

just bumping this for some fresh eyes maybe
thx

jimmycinla said:
just bumping this for some fresh eyes maybe
thx
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Your boot loader will never be unlocked, go to the original development threads and look for pawnmymoto or slapmymoto, root method for permanently locked boot loaders
Sent on my Moto X

flashallthetime said:
Your boot loader will never be unlocked, go to the original development threads and look for pawnmymoto or slapmymoto, root method for permanently locked boot loaders
Sent on my Moto X
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Yes, I was told the same for my Razr M, then of course, someone figured it out 6-7 months after release.
Never is a term I see crushed so many times by the geniuses on XDA, so I hold out hope !!.... :good:
j

jimmycinla said:
Yes, I was told the same for my Razr M, then of course, someone figured it out 6-7 months after release.
Never is a term I see crushed so many times by the geniuses on XDA, so I hold out hope !!.... :good:
j
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I hope you have patience because you may be waiting for a while or forever
Sent on my Moto X

Getting Started on Moto X

Background: Just received my Moto X yesterday (Ebony back, black front, silver trim, SEXY!!!). I'm coming from a Droid 4 (tired of waiting on Droid 5) and I'm hoping you guys can help point me in the right direction by answering a few general questions for me. I've browsed through some of the forums already but since the Moto X has been out a little while now there is a LOT to wade through. So....
1. What is the current state of root on the Moto X? The last I saw there is not an easy root method for Moto X on KitKat. Is that still true?
2. On my D4 we did not really have options when it come to recoveries. It was safestrap, which is great, but that was it. I think I saw a safestrap for Moto X thread somewhere but are there other recoveries like TWRP or CWM available?
3. Probably a stupid questions but what is the difference between the "Moto X Android Development" forum and the "Moto X Original Android Development" forum?
Really love the XDA community and looking forward to getting started with my Moto X and finding ways to contribute. Thanks!

Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Not afraid of a little reading. Just trying to figure out where to start. Can you at least clarify what the difference is between the "Android Development" and "Original Android Development" sections?

kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Read the sticky explaining the differences in the original android development section.
sent from Moto X

Jizzylax said:
Read the sticky explaining the differences in the original android development section.
sent from Moto X
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Totally missed the sticky. Thanks for the heads up.

kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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OK, So I have read through a whole bunch of stuff now and I think I have root figured out. What I cannot seem to figure it out is the recovery situation. All the recoveries I see are for "Recovery Unlocked" or "Unlocked Bootloader" devices. I just have a plain old non-dev edition Moto X. Are there no compatible recoveries for regular non-dev edition Moto Xs?

kwyrt said:
OK, So I have read through a whole bunch of stuff now and I think I have root figured out. What I cannot seem to figure it out is the recovery situation. All the recoveries I see are for "Recovery Unlocked" or "Unlocked Bootloader" devices. I just have a plain old non-dev edition Moto X. Are there no compatible recoveries for regular non-dev edition Moto Xs?
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You need an unlocked bootloader to use custom recoveries. But it isn't just dev edition that can be unlocked.
If you can't or don't want to unlock your bootloader (which voids your warranty), then you can't use a custom recovery.
You can still root....but no custom recovery. Which means no flashing from recovery...since stock doesn't flash.
Again....this is all in the dev section....and Google can help you find this stuff too.
I can't help further, I'm not an expert at the unlocked bootloader root stuff, as I unlocked my bootloader on day one.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
You need an unlocked bootloader to use custom recoveries. But it isn't just dev edition that can be unlocked.
If you can't or don't want to unlock your bootloader (which voids your warranty), then you can't use a custom recovery.
You can still root....but no custom recovery. Which means no flashing from recovery...since stock doesn't flash.
Again....this is all in the dev section....and Google can help you find this stuff too.
I can't help further, I'm not an expert at the unlocked bootloader root stuff, as I unlocked my bootloader on day one.
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Thanks. I didn't see any threads related to unlocking the bootloader but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the information.

kwyrt said:
Thanks. I didn't see any threads related to unlocking the bootloader but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the information.
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You have to unlock the boot loader at Motorola's website. That way they know and your warranty is void. Lol
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kj2112 said:
You have to unlock the boot loader at Motorola's website. That way they know and your warranty is void. Lol
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Well poop. Looks like the normal VZ version is not supported by Moto's bootloader unlock program.

kwyrt said:
Well poop. Looks like the normal VZ version is not supported by Moto's bootloader unlock program.
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Well...you're familiar with safestrap already....that's a positive.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
Well...you're familiar with safestrap already....that's a positive.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Yep. There's that at least. LOL
Makes things simple. Root, install safestrap, and enjoy!

kwyrt said:
Background: Just received my Moto X yesterday (Ebony back, black front, silver trim, SEXY!!!). I'm coming from a Droid 4 (tired of waiting on Droid 5) and I'm hoping you guys can help point me in the right direction by answering a few general questions for me. I've browsed through some of the forums already but since the Moto X has been out a little while now there is a LOT to wade through. So....
1. What is the current state of root on the Moto X? The last I saw there is not an easy root method for Moto X on KitKat. Is that still true?
2. On my D4 we did not really have options when it come to recoveries. It was safestrap, which is great, but that was it. I think I saw a safestrap for Moto X thread somewhere but are there other recoveries like TWRP or CWM available?
3. Probably a stupid questions but what is the difference between the "Moto X Android Development" forum and the "Moto X Original Android Development" forum?
Really love the XDA community and looking forward to getting started with my Moto X and finding ways to contribute. Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49260947#post49260947

Can I get the 4.4.2 OTA update while on 4.4 rooted?

Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?

tomh12player said:
Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section

Really time to open a troll thread.
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

I opened this thread a while ago :crying:. I did read the first thread but it I saw on xda somewhere that it wasn't safe to root if you used SlapMyMoto, and the thread didn't confirm or deny that statement. Which is why I posted this thread. I do apologize if this seemed like an obvious question to you, but I'm not that experienced in rooting/flashing/whatnot yet. So could you give me a straight answer please?

I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Yeah, I won't be taking the risk. I read somewhere that you CAN update to 4.4.2 safely, but write permissions will be denied so you can't use things like Xposed. I'm just going to wait and watch the dust settle first.

biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?

Cozume said:
Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
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Okay just send me your phone and I'll gladly do it.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
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kj2112 said:
There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Well the forums are inundated with a bunch of posts regarding unlocked bootloader X's. I don't know why people are having issues, they just need to disable all things root, go back to stock, then take the OTA. The solution to these has been documented a million times.
Our problem has to do with a locked bootloader, and there's not much information besides "wait for it to be rooted."
I'm sitting patiently (but anxiously, hah), but it's a bit confusing for everyone because we're all just sitting on our hands hoping for 4.4.2 root.

dray_jr said:
why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
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The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
I will not answer any question in regards to slapmymoto or pawnmymoto regards to accepting the ota
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And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..

densets said:
The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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OK changed my op, I have tried to make it simple as possible and it for any ota up to date, if you hacked rooted with slapmymoto or pawnmymoto do not accept the ota, as to date , there is no root hack for 4.4.2 and may never be. If your boot loader is unlockable and you used jcases root method, then unlock your boot loader. To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

Thank you guys for clarifying what I meant, I know not to root now :good:

densets said:
The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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apparently you did not even read my guide because it tells you how to root both locked and unlocked bootloaders so next time read before you open you mouth and tell me i did not give him a straight answer

yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?

densets said:
yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
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Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
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kj2112 said:
Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
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And if you had read the guy's post you would see he wasn't clear on when the thread was referencing locked bootloaders or unlocked bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50252348&postcount=4
Sometimes people can search and read and still not get it. Because some times the people giving the answers aren't clear in their explanations for a variety of reasons or because they leave out critical facts/steps that seem so basic to them they don't feel the need to include them but yet to a noob, you are lost without those critical facts/steps. Hence the need for:
Moto X Q&A Forum

It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!

flashallthetime said:
...To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
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that is the way you should have written it (so people can see it).

SymbioticGenius said:
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...!
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First, in the US very few people buy off contract phones given the carrier subsidies are built into their wireless service contracts. And the Motorola Dev Eds (as is true of all Dev Eds) are only available off contract. So if you go with a Dev Ed, you are paying for a subsidy but not using it. Of course, you can buy an iPhone with your subsidized upgrade and sell it, but many people aren't willing to do this or don't know how to do this or are afraid of using craig's list/swappa/ebay to sell a phone. I know I was nervous the first time I did it.
Now things are beginning to change in that at least 3 of the major carriers are offering discounts on your bill if you will forego subsidized phone pricing, but for my carrier, to get a discount you have to enroll in their installment program and get the phone through them, and you can't get a Dev Ed through them. The discount does not equal the subsidy unless you are on a family plan using 10GB or more per month of data. But if you are, the discount exceeds the subsidy. So your best bet is to either stick with the subsidy built into your plan or go with Verizon's installment plan, but either way you can't get a Dev Ed.
Second, you can't customize the Dev Eds and while that may not be important to some people, a lot of people really like it. I bought a second Moto X just to get the wood back, lol! Not entirely true as I am going to use it for WiFi tether in my house as soon as I root it, but that wood back for only $25 extra sure was hard to resist.
So in the US with the subsidy and customization options, being readily available isn't the whole story.

[Q] MultiROM for Moto X??

Hey guys I just want to know if it is possible to port multirom to the moto x???? My previous Motorola Atrix 2 had something similar called boot menu manager. So is it possible to get multirom????

You'd have to talk to the dev who created it. And he would surely need a moto x. For the N7 2013 he had a kick start campaign to collect funds for the N7 2013 purchase.
With half the moto x people being out of the picture, cause they have locked bootloader.....interest may be low. Also, there's only so much to flash on a moto x.....again, interest may be low cause of that.
I'll say this, if the people that want it put a moto x in his hands (through up front donations) its very possible he would make a version for the X.
This is all assuming its even technically possible.
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Maybe @Tasssadar can weigh in?
It is on my N5....amazing. I have 4 ROMs currently on it.
Personally, I think a lot prefer stock....tho I guess with multirom they may try other things and keep stock as their main ROM.

KJ said:
You'd have to talk to the dev who created it. And he would surely need a moto x. For the N7 2013 he had a kick start campaign to collect funds for the N7 2013 purchase.
With half the moto x people being out of the picture, cause they have locked bootloader.....interest may be low. Also, there's only so much to flash on a moto x.....again, interest may be low cause of that.
I'll say this, if the people that want it put a moto x in his hands (through up front donations) its very possible he would make a version for the X.
This is all assuming its even technically possible.
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Maybe @Tasssadar can weigh in?
It is on my N5....amazing. I have 4 ROMs currently on it.
Personally, I think a lot prefer stock....tho I guess with multirom they may try other things and keep stock as their main ROM.
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So its not possible for one of the devs of the moto x to port it themselves with his help???

davidjumani said:
So its not possible for one of the devs of the moto x to port it themselves with his help???
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Most of the devices that we use here are Bootloader locked, and would not allow flashing. As for the devs of the device, Motorola, I don't think they support the rooting scene as much as say someone like Oppo does.

dier325 said:
Most of the devices that we use here are Bootloader locked, and would not allow flashing. As for the devs of the device, Motorola, I don't think they support the rooting scene as much as say someone like Oppo does.
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Thanks and I've been reading up on safestrap. Can you flash custom roms using that on another system??

davidjumani said:
Thanks and I've been reading up on safestrap. Can you flash custom roms using that on another system??
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I am not the person to ask. I use a locked boot loader device. Sorry :/
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dier325 said:
I am not the person to ask. I use a locked boot loader device. Sorry :/
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It says its for locked bootloaders too

davidjumani said:
Thanks and I've been reading up on safestrap. Can you flash custom roms using that on another system??
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Even if you safestrap you can't flash kernals(so you can't have anything like CM11, PAC, etc) only Stock based roms will work.
Stock roms:
Eclipse:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-eclipse-moto-x-v3-2-2-4-4-2-blur-t2521509
Krypton:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657

I'm not sure safestrap will work if you're already on 4.4.2 or higher.

So..The thread needs to be awaken.
Since now we have unlocked bootloaders, can any dev please try porting Multirom Manager for our X? :fingers-crossed:
@Tasssadar @iKrYpToNiTe can weigh in..

I'm praying for this day to come

No cyanogen mod?

I noticed that not even the maxx has a working installation of cyanogen and was wondering if once the turbo has a working method for root will people be more likely to create an installation?
I'm really looking forward to over clocking my processor if so

DireWolfAlpha said:
I noticed that not even the maxx has a working installation of cyanogen and was wondering if once the turbo has a working method for root will people be more likely to create an installation?
I'm really looking forward to over clocking my processor if so
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Dev is working on CM12 for the Moto Maxx. We're not bugging him, so he can work in peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59242949&postcount=2

ChazzMatt said:
Dev is working on CM12 for the Moto Maxx. We're not bugging him, so he can work in peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59242949&postcount=2
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Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked

DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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Root is almost available for the DT but BL unlock is not guaranteed yet so no one can say if DT owners (like myself) will even be able to flash anything. Good question though.

DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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I think will work

matheus_sc said:
I think will work
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Likely not. You can't just "swap ROMS" between a CDMA device and a GSM device.
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Root is almost available for the DT but BL unlock is not guaranteed yet so no one can say if DT owners (like myself) will even be able to flash anything. Good question though.
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I helped a few people with unlocked turbos out in rooting theirs. I can confirm that the Moto Maxx TWRP does boot, but in the long run it'll need a few recoveryfs tweaks.
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Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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Probably not. Look at the top of my post (yes, this one) where I replied to matheus_sc.

r3pwn said:
Likely not. You can't just "swap ROMS" between a CDMA device and a GSM device.
I helped a few people with unlocked turbos out in rooting theirs. I can confirm that the Moto Maxx TWRP does boot, but in the long run it'll need a few recoveryfs tweaks.
Probably not. Look at the top of my post (yes, this one) where I replied to matheus_sc.
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Were those turbos XT1250s? Because nothing has been shown about someone working on BL unlock for the DT (XT1254)......yet. but ofc the XT1250s are already unlocked but not the XT1254s which is the model I believe he was asking about.

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Were those turbos XT1250s? Because nothing has been shown about someone working on BL unlock for the DT (XT1254)......yet. but ofc the XT1250s are already unlocked but not the XT1254s which is the model I believe he was asking about.
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They were XT1254s. They were all prototype models and came unlocked from the factory.

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They were XT1254s. They were all prototype models and came unlocked from the factory.
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Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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jhoutz said:
Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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I have one of their bootloaders. It's not that simple. Good thought, though.

jhoutz said:
Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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That would not work because it is not signed by moto. The ONLY things that matter are: 1) Signed vs unsigned packages and 2) bootloader exploits. Some BL exploits require root, most do now since they have gotten advanced. I miss the days of hardware level exploits and stuff. No more though. Root will likely be needed for a BL unlock and I would assume once root drops people will start working on one. Jcase has unlocked many motos and I would assume he will work on one when he has time (he is sick and very busy).
So root will not allow a BL unlock by itself. I am not even sure if this root exploit removes /system write protection. Some don't. We just have to wait and see.

I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.

Skrilax_CZ said:
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
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Great news

Skrilax_CZ said:
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
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Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards

##W4TCH0UT## said:
Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
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Thanking you this way until my "thanks limit" re-sets. Thank you.

##W4TCH0UT## said:
Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
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Great news, more devs make uor maxx even better

123421342 said:
That would not work because it is not signed by moto.
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Since when isn't a Motorola Engineering Bootloader signed by Motorola?
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Jcase has unlocked many motos and I would assume he will work on one when he has time (he is sick and very busy).
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But he already said he shows no interest in unlocking the turbo.

EDIT: Gah, double post didn't get merged.

r3pwn said:
Since when isn't a Motorola Engineering Bootloader signed by Motorola?
But he already said he shows no interest in unlocking the turbo.
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If you dump the package yourself I would imagine it would no longer have the same check sum no? Jcase has said this about many devices and then out of nowhere released exploits. I am not asking him to, I am just saying he enjoys doing this and is really, really good at it. I can see him collaborating with the root author to develop a proper exploit if it does not already exist. Either way, this root probably won't be released for another few weeks, if ever.

123421342 said:
If you dump the package yourself I would imagine it would no longer have the same check sum no? Jcase has said this about many devices and then out of nowhere released exploits. I am not asking him to, I am just saying he enjoys doing this and is really, really good at it. I can see him collaborating with the root author to develop a proper exploit if it does not already exist. Either way, this root probably won't be released for another few weeks, if ever.
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No, if you dump the bootloader yourself, it will be signed with the exact same certificates as when it was compiled. As a quick demonstration, take a device (not the Turbo) and download a custom kernel for it.
Check (and make note of) the MD5 checksum. Then install it.
Boot it once or twice, messing around with it. Then dump it (via
Code:
dd if="/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot" of="/sdcard/boot.img"
) and compare the MD5 of your dumped image to that of the one that had not yet been installed. Zero difference.