Buying from at&t - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If I am reading everything correctly, the att version is xt1097 and has a locked bootloader. There is no way to unlock the bootloader and there is no root method for a moto x bought from att. Am I correct in this assumption? :crying:

pclaunch said:
If I am reading everything correctly, the att version is xt1097 and has a locked bootloader. There is no way to unlock the bootloader and there is no root method for a moto x bought from att. Am I correct in this assumption? :crying:
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Yes you are correct. The original Moto X (carrier locked) bootloaders can be unlocked using "Sunshine", there is a potential it will become available for the 2014 version in the future, but I don't think it will be anytime soon.
Secondly, there is no reason to get the AT&T version because rumor is Motorola is going to enable all the AT&T supported LTE bands in the Pure version: http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-pure-edition-xt1095-may-soon-get-more-lte-bands

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moto x xt1058 bootloader unlock

moto x xt1058 bootloader unlock Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
Which carrier variant do u have? If att, no. If other than att, yes...
amos700 said:
moto x xt1058 bootloader unlock Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
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mschumacher69 said:
Which carrier variant do u have? If att, no. If other than att, yes...
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I did not understand! I want to buy XT1058 And I wanted to know Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
amos700 said:
I did not understand! I want to buy XT1058 And I wanted to know Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
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It depends on which xt1058 it is. If it's the at&t variant, u cannot unlock the bootloader. If it's any other non-us carrier, u can unlock the bootloader...
amos700 said:
I did not understand! I want to buy XT1058 And I wanted to know Is it possible to unlock the bootloader?
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For the Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web SIte. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon, ATT and a few other carriers.
That is why you will see people ask what carrier.
One last note...
IF you get a 2013 X for ATT or Verizon, AND the phone is still on 4.4.2 or lower AND the bootloader is NOT 30.B7, you can use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader.
NOTE: once the phone has 4.4.2, 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 on it, you can NOT Safely downgrade it!!! And there is no way to downgrade the bootloader (even on Dev Edition models).
thanks i got the XT1058 ATT model but i am having bootloader BO.4 which is a good sign and i have android 4.4.2 so i can unlock with sunshine root. thanks for replying
Raj
you saved me form lots of regret my friend, i will keep cancelling updates until i can pay for sunshine. i have boot loader 30.b4 thanks a lot for your suggestion
Is there no other way to unlocked BL XT1058 ?
My previous phone is dead, but the data was backup via TitaniumBackup.
Without unlocked bl, i can not root... Without root, i can't restore my data via TitaniumBackup
*sigh* I guess i bought the wrong phone?
vashta said:
Is there no other way to unlocked BL XT1058 ?
My previous phone is dead, but the data was backup via TitaniumBackup.
Without unlocked bl, i can not root... Without root, i can't restore my data via TitaniumBackup
*sigh* I guess i bought the wrong phone?
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Correct. If you have an ATT XT1058, Sunshine was the only option to unlock the bootloader. And to use it, you needed to be on 4.4.2 or lower, and never had 4.4.4 or higher on your phone.
IF you have a Rogers Canada XT1058 or other non-ATT XT1058, you should be able to get your bootloader unlock code directly from Moto's web site.
KidJoe said:
Correct. If you have an ATT XT1058, Sunshine was the only option to unlock the bootloader. And to use it, you needed to be on 4.4.2 or lower, and never had 4.4.4 or higher on your phone.
IF you have a Rogers Canada XT1058 or other non-ATT XT1058, you should be able to get your bootloader unlock code directly from Moto's web site.
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My ATT XT1058 is on lollypop.
And i read its dangerous to downgrade my os.
Hmm... dead end for me, so far...

Anyway at all to unlock bootloader for ATT Moto X (2013) on 4.4.4

I have the XT1058 on 4.4.4 and I have been having no luck in finding a way to unlock the BL. Is there anyway at all?
hexbox117 said:
I have the XT1058 on 4.4.4 and I have been having no luck in finding a way to unlock the BL. Is there anyway at all?
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There is no way now.
Google says no, as does many posts in many threads on this forum.
It's because AT&T version is sim locked?
Nicolae-Daniel said:
It's because AT&T version is sim locked?
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sIm Lock, aka carrier lock, has nothing to do with bootloader unlock.
To bootloader unlock, you need the unique code for the phone. Likely due to carrier contracts, Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock code for ATT, Verizon, or Republic Wireless, but does for many/most other carriers. At one point there was a web site in China and a Middleman who access to Moto's list or database of codes which included even those Moto didn't publicly make available (I.e ATT, VZW, RW) but that dried up a while ago. JCase found a vulnerability in the bootloader on the 2013 X, and came out with/updated his Sunshine tool with a hack exploiting that vulnerability to unlock the bootloader (without having the unique code) on the 2013 X too, but it doesn't work once the X has been upgraded to 4.4.4. Sunshine DOES work on the 2013 X if it has never been upgraded past 4.4.3.
Thanks for letting me know. I got the phone in August and it was on 4.4.3, but then I accidentally installed 4.4.4. If only I had known that I wouldn't be able to root it after that.... It really sucks because I really want Viper4Android on my Moto X.
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Jcase has been teasing us with word of the next sunshine version working for 4.4.4. It was projected to release early January but they must not be done putting all their awesome into that sauce. Be patient and I bet you'll have an unlocked bl soon enough.
In an abundance of caution, I would probably hold off taking the lollipop update coming soon in case it patches whatever vulnerability they are exploiting.
hexbox117 said:
Thanks for letting me know. I got the phone in August and it was on 4.4.3, but then I accidentally installed 4.4.4. If only I had known that I wouldn't be able to root it after that.... It really sucks because I really want Viper4Android on my Moto X.
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4.4.3 or 4.4.2? because I wasn't aware that there was a 4.4.3 for ATT.
I checked it as soon as I got it and it was 4.4.3. A few days after, a notification for 4.4.4 popped up and I accidentally hit install. I got the phone August 10th, 2014.
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Same problem with me too. Eagerly updated to 4.4.4. Now no option to unlock bootloader. Waiting for ota L update which seems to take long time in india. Hope sm1 cracksnthis case soon
I wonder if Android 5 will have an exploit or something to unlock the boot loader.
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azu89 said:
Same problem with me too. Eagerly updated to 4.4.4. Now no option to unlock bootloader. Waiting for ota L update which seems to take long time in india. Hope sm1 cracksnthis case soon
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India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
KidJoe said:
India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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Ya mine is XT1052 .I checked the site ,in find device section there's
moto xCanada / Rogers
Moto xUS / Sprint, USC, TMO
Moto x Latin America
Mine is Asian retail Indian model so how to find if unlocking is avbl?
If I proceed with (moto x US) and generate serial key of my phone using SDK tools and check for unlock bootloader in site, my phn won't get bricked or anything right? That's a doubt I have.
azu89 said:
Ya mine is XT1052 .I checked the site ,in find device section there's
moto xCanada / Rogers
Moto xUS / Sprint, USC, TMO
Moto x Latin America
Mine is Asian retail Indian model so how to find if unlocking is avbl?
If I proceed with (moto x US) and generate serial key of my phone using SDK tools and check for unlock bootloader in site, my phn won't get bricked or anything right? That's a doubt I have.
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You should be able to use the same web site to get the bootloader unlock code, many others with the European and Asian XT1052 have been able to get their bootloader unlock code there.
If you get the code in an email, it will either work, or give you an error if its not the right code. It will not brick your phone.
KidJoe said:
You should be able to use the same web site to get the bootloader unlock code, many others with the European and Asian XT1052 have been able to get their bootloader unlock code there.
If you get the code in an email, it will either work, or give you an error if its not the right code. It will not brick your phone.
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Thanks.i will try then
Is there a way to achieve temporary root on att moto x 2013 without wiping the device
km8j said:
Is there a way to achieve temporary root on att moto x 2013 without wiping the device
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See the one stop shop for root thread in general. Right at the top of the page.
All current root methods are there, based on device versions and state. ?
There is a untested way to unlock the bootloader but is very risky, you must open your device. Anyway if you are so brave to try this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra/general/droid-ultra-maxx-brick-recovery-t2830806 look at this guide at the second point, first you must drill the plate on the ram chip, you must short the right pin on your moto x to ground (i attach a photo,pointed by the orange arrow) then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057
THIS IS A VERY RISKY PROCEDURE: YOU CAN BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!!
I wouldn't. ^^^^
Lol
thankyou
KidJoe said:
India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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i tried as you told and turns out that my device can be unlocked! :victory::good:
thankyou for the help.
just unlocking/rooting wouldnt prevent ota updates from motorola right?

What are my options with a simfree, locked bootloader AT&T 1058 moto X?

I got a used sim-free AT&T moto x 1058 (2013) 1058. it has Android 4.4.4 and a 30.B7 (sha-bae5e20, 2014-6-23 18:44:49) locked bootloader.
I am not a AT&T user and don't like the fact that I have their bloatware on my phone and that I am totally depended on them to update my phone.
I went to Motorola official website to try and unlock my bootloader like I did in the past with devices I purchased directly from Motorola and got a massage saying "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
So what are my options to unlock my bootloader?
As for your options with the locked bootloader, you have none, period. Nothing will unlock it because the AT&T variant is not one that's capable of being bootloader unlocked (a requirement set by AT&T afaik) with any bootloader other than the original one (30.07 iirc) and running a build before 4.4.
So, you have a Moto X that potentially could be carrier unlocked to use with another cellular provider but that is only possible if your IMEI doesn't start with 35321 because those apparently can't be without a lot of hassles if at all) but that's it.
I actually just got a Moto X from Motorola as a replacement exchange - it was Android 4.2.2 with bootloader B0.07 which was the original one and I could pretty much do anything with it I wanted but I wasn't going to pay the $25 for Sunshine (which would unlock the bootloader, tested and verified). I never really had intentions of keeping the Moto X anyway so I went ahead and did the updates which of course ruined that original pristine state.
Your option is to sell the XT1058 and buy a XT1053

Getting used VZW Moto-X - want root - What to look for?

Hi All,
I currently have an XT1053 on Lycamobile (T-Mobile MVNO). I rooted it when I got it, have a custom recovery, ROM, xposed framework, XPrivacy, titanium backup. It's been 1.5 years so I'm rusty on how I did it before.
I'd like to move to Verizon pre-paid so I'm looking to buy a used phone. I want to end up with the same capabilities - root, custom ROM, etc.
I'm thinking I should get a Dev edition Verizon Moto-X so that I can get the unlock code from Motorola. In order to reduce chances of issues/bricking, is there are particular version of Android the phone should already have? Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks,
Mark
From what I have been able to find by looking at a bunch of threads, it looks like I need to look for a Developer phone with Android 4.4.2.
What else am I maybe missing?
Thanks,
Mark
For the Dev Edition it doesn't matter what version you're on, you can root no matter what.
markd89 said:
From what I have been able to find by looking at a bunch of threads, it looks like I need to look for a Developer phone with Android 4.4.2.
What else am I maybe missing?
Thanks,
Mark
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The only reason you would need 4.4.2 for easy unlocking is if you were on a non-developer edition phone and were using Sunshine. Dev editions can be unlocked, flashed, and rooted quite easily. Non-developer editions though, you want to be on an earlier release of Android, although there is a root method for 4.4.4 now, so you may still be able to unlock the bootloader.
markd89 said:
....I'd like to move to Verizon pre-paid so I'm looking to buy a used phone. I want to end up with the same capabilities - root, custom ROM, etc.
I'm thinking I should get a Dev edition Verizon Moto-X so that I can get the unlock code from Motorola. In order to reduce chances of issues/bricking, is there are particular version of Android the phone should already have? Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks,
Mark
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Unlocking the bootloader is needed to run a custom rom, custom recovery, etc. and to ensure the ability to root no matter what ROM is on your phone.
Stick with a Developer Edition XT11060 for Verizon. You can get the bootloader unlock code directly from Motorola, for free.
If you get a RETAIL or Moto Maker variant, so long as the phone was never updated to 4.4.4 or higher, you can use Sunshine to unlock its bootloader. BUT Sunshine relies on exploiting a vulnerability to unlock the bootloader. There has been some question on if the vulnerability will be patched in Lollipop and could that pose any issues for those who used Sunshine to unlock. Will it re-lock them or will the unlocked status survive, etc? I have not seen a definitive answer.
While there is a ROOT method for a certain 4.4.4 build for non-Dev Verizon XT1060, that wont allow you to flash a custom rom or recovery, and it doesn't turn off write protection so there are some limits.
Thanks Gents, very helpful.
Is there any downside to getting a Moto X Developer that is already rooted? I'd still be able to contact Motorola for the unlock if I needed it again, right?
Thanks,
Mark
Thanks for bringing this up OP. I have a Verizon Note 4 and quite frankly I'm tired of the size and it's the longest I've been without root. Not to mention the lag with the TouchWiz lollipop build is driving me crazy. I now want a smaller (sorry Nexus 6) bootloader unlocked rootable android phone. After getting a pre-paid moto g to play around with I'm digging the smaller size and the resolution is more than acceptable. The Moto G should be even better.
I initially looked at the 2014 X but Verizon never released a developer model. My only hesitation to the 2013 is Android M. Is that coming to the 2013 X? And do people here have experience buying refurbished 2013 developer Xs from ebay. Pretty cheap around $110 to $150.
markd89 said:
Is there any downside to getting a Moto X Developer that is already rooted? I'd still be able to contact Motorola for the unlock if I needed it again, right?
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To clarify - if I get phone that's already unlocked because the previous owner got the code from Motorola, would I be able to contact Motorola in the future for the unlock code if I needed to re-unlock the phone or do they only give that out once?
Thanks much,
Mark
markd89 said:
To clarify - if I get phone that's already unlocked because the previous owner got the code from Motorola, would I be able to contact Motorola in the future for the unlock code if I needed to re-unlock the phone or do they only give that out once?
Thanks much,
Mark
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Developer editions come SIM Unlocked to begin with.
Saythis said:
Developer editions come SIM Unlocked to begin with.
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OK, I was under the impression that they come bootloader locked so that I would need an unlock to achieve root. Am I mistaken?
markd89 said:
To clarify - if I get phone that's already unlocked because the previous owner got the code from Motorola, would I be able to contact Motorola in the future for the unlock code if I needed to re-unlock the phone or do they only give that out once?
Thanks much,
Mark
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markd89 said:
OK, I was under the impression that they come bootloader locked so that I would need an unlock to achieve root. Am I mistaken?
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People often get SIM unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) confused with bootloader unlocked when someone just says "unlocked"
The Verizon XT1060, Developer Edition or Retail/Moto Maker are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) out of the box due to FCC 700 C-Block rules.
All 2013 X's ship as bootloader locked. The ATT XT1058, Republic Wireless XT1049 and Verizon Retail/Moto Maker XT1060 editions can not get the bootloader unlock code from Moto. The rest, including the Developer Edition XT1060 for Verizon, CAN.
Once bootloader unlocked using the code from Moto, the phone will stay that way unless you re-lock it. However, keep in mind there are 3 states of the 2013 X bootloader Locked Status 0 (as it ships from factory), Unlocked Status 3 (after you unlock via the code), and LOCKED Status 2 (aka relocked). We as users can not toggle it back to Status 0. Because we can't get back to Status 0, there is no real reason to try and relock. The "bootloader unlocked" warning message shows when status is NOT 0. *IF* you buy a used XT1060 Dev Edition where the previous owner as re-locked the bootloader, you will need the code to unlock it. The codes are unique to each phone.
I have no experience requesting the bootloader unlock code from moto for a USED phone, so I can't be of any help answering that question.
I purchased a used xt1060 dev that the previous owner had relocked the bootloader....not sure why. I was able to get a unlock code from Motorola no problem.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Thanks, all!
I have my used Dev Moto X Verizon on order and look forward to the XDA fun when I get it

Flashing Moto G6 with Verizon firmware

I have an unlocked Moto G6 that I am trying to flash with Verizon firmware. Can anyone point me in the right direction? A google search has shown nothing.
fmj77 said:
I have an unlocked Moto G6 that I am trying to flash with Verizon firmware. Can anyone point me in the right direction? A google search has shown nothing.
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What do you mean by unlocked. There bootloader unlock and sim unlock. Sim unlock just allows you to use another network. Bootloader unlock allows to to flash. Also there is no Verizon firmware to flash because the Verizon model can't be bootloader unlocked which means you can't flash it. Verizon and att are notoriously the worst when it comes to having there phones eligible to be bootloader unlocked
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What do you mean by unlocked. There bootloader unlock and sim unlock. Sim unlock just allows you to use another network. Bootloader unlock allows to to flash. Also there is no Verizon firmware to flash because the Verizon model can't be bootloader unlocked which means you can't flash it. Verizon and att are notoriously the worst when it comes to having there phones eligible to be bootloader unlocked
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I guess it's SIM unlocked since I can pretty much use it with any carrier by swapping the SIM card. I bought the phone new and unlocked from Republic Wireless and am trying to get it working with full features with Verizon Prepaid. A couple of folks on Reddit mentioned that I could flash the phone with Verizon software in order to get it to work as if I'd bought the G6 from Verizon.

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