Tasker Pandora - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to using tasker, but I want it to play pandora when it sees my car's bluetooth, and exit pandora when I leave my car. But the media play/pause actions, are causing moto assist to pop up. Is there a way to send play/pause pandora and not have the moto assist interfere?

You can tell Moto Assist to launch Pandora instead of Google Play Music when it detects your car's Bluetooth. Not sure if that's what you're after, but it sounds like that would solve your problem.
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Well I was trying to launch Pandora using Tasker, I guess i didn't realize you could use Moto Assist to add any custom actions/events. How do you tell Moto Assist to launch Pandora upon connecting to the car's bluetooth?

Nevermind, I just checked and found the play music option under the driving profile. I do wonder though, how long does it take Moto Assist to "learn" my bluetooth devices associated with driving? I have that option turned on, but the section that says it will list devices it has learned is empty...I really don't want it playing music or reading texts to me while I'm riding in someone else's car.

Interesting question and I'm not sure. I've never had it try to play in someone else's car. Once you've paired it to your car, assuming you haven't paired it with other cars, I think it will work correctly. If you've paired with multiple cars and only want it to play in yours, I'm not sure.
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I've only paired it to my car, but I just bought a bluetooth car kit so that I can stream music (my car only does phone calls), so when I drive my phone is connected to two bluetooth devices at once. My question is that Moto Assist says it will overtime learn which bluetooth devices are associated with driving and use them to help determine when the phone should switch to driving mode. It has not yet learned my car (or the bluetooth kit...but that I just got that yesterday), because it doesn't show up in the "devices associated with driving" list. So the only way it knows that I'm driving is based on gps speed/acceleration, which means that I could be in any car, not just my own. How long does it take for it to associate my car's bluetooth with driving? Or is there something I can do manually to define particular devices with driving mode?

Not sure. For me after I paired my phone with my car radio, it immediately saw it in Moto Assist and I've never had problems since. You're sure you've paired your phone to the car?
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Playing music automatically when connected to my car

Why do android phones do this and how do i stop it?
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I assume you mean through bluetooth, which is strange because none of my phones do this(Nexus One, Vibrant, Nexus S, and G2).
All of my Androids have done this and it has been discussed. If my car is in Bluetooth Streaming mode and the phones bluetooth is on, as soon as I start the car, music starts playing.
I can confirm this on a captivate and the nexus s. And there seems to be no way to choose the player it uses. I too would like to know how to prevent the auto playing or at least select the player it will launch.
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hah2110 said:
All of my Androids have done this and it has been discussed. If my car is in Bluetooth Streaming mode and the phones bluetooth is on, as soon as I start the car, music starts playing.
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all my old phones did that properly (Palm, Desire, SGS, XT720 and now SNS)
Except the Windows phones, which i hated, because they didn't do it
This may be a "feature" of the car's stereo. Like how if you leave your radio on when you turn off your car, then your radio turns back on automatically when you turn the car on again.
ravidavi said:
This may be a "feature" of the car's stereo. Like how if you leave your radio on when you turn off your car, then your radio turns back on automatically when you turn the car on again.
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Yes, that's partly correct, it will only start autoplaying anything (for me) if the car's stereo is set to BT streaming. If I'm on Sirius or AM/FM, no interaction with the phone beyond pairing.
The issue is that if you're listening to something like BeyondPod or Pandora, the Music app starts autoplaying on top of the audio stream you're already listening to.
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Yes, that's partly correct, it will only start autoplaying anything (for me) if the car's stereo is set to BT streaming. If I'm on Sirius or AM/FM, no interaction with the phone beyond pairing.
The issue is that if you're listening to something like BeyondPod or Pandora, the Music app starts autoplaying on top of the audio stream you're already listening to.
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Exactly! That's a problem
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Press the sync button and say autoplay off.
ScotchtapeLoser said:
Press the sync button and say autoplay off.
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I have this same problem, does this work? Thanks if it does!
ScotchtapeLoser said:
Press the sync button and say autoplay off.
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What Sync button?
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What Sync button?
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If you have the Microsoft Sync system in your vehicle you will have this command and a Sync Button. It worked in my 2009 Mercury Mariner Premier. It was previously opening winamp and playing all of the notification noises.
Now it waits for my to decide what noise to play.
Sync....please say a command....."AUTOPLAY OFF DAMNIT!"
I will be testing this on my lunch and will report back, heres hoping!
Sorry to bring an old thread back from the dead but I couldn't find an answer for this elsewhere. Well, I found an answer for the HTC Hero but couldn't find one for the Nexus S.
I'm having this problem with the Nexus S 4G always wanting to run WinAMP over whatever else (Pandora, Spotify, AmazonMP3 etc.). I don't have a Ford so I don't have a Sync button. I have a Nissan Leaf which only gives the options of Play/Pause, Next Track, and Previous Track. I believe the Leaf's infotainment system runs on a Microsoft designed OS, but it's not branded as Sync.
Even if I'm listening to something in Spotify after previously closing WinAMP and press Next Track from the steering wheel it will launch WinAMP and start playing WinAMP's music over top of Spotify's music. Makes for some interesting mashups, though unfortunately not in a good way.
idevin said:
Sorry to bring an old thread back from the dead but I couldn't find an answer for this elsewhere. Well, I found an answer for the HTC Hero but couldn't find one for the Nexus S.
I'm having this problem with the Nexus S 4G always wanting to run WinAMP over whatever else (Pandora, Spotify, AmazonMP3 etc.). I don't have a Ford so I don't have a Sync button. I have a Nissan Leaf which only gives the options of Play/Pause, Next Track, and Previous Track. I believe the Leaf's infotainment system runs on a Microsoft designed OS, but it's not branded as Sync.
Even if I'm listening to something in Spotify after previously closing WinAMP and press Next Track from the steering wheel it will launch WinAMP and start playing WinAMP's music over top of Spotify's music. Makes for some interesting mashups, though unfortunately not in a good way.
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It sounds like winamp is registering as the handler for the media controls and either spotify is not or winamp is not unregistering when closing.
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I use tasker, which prevents the problem of opening wrong app, but still haven't solved the skip and pause problem.
Did you go to application settings-->manage applications and clearing the defaults for the app? Sometimes they are set by default.

[Q] Bionic, Pandora, bluetooth, and my car

I have been having an interesting issue with my Bionic post-JB update, and hope someone here can give me some pointers of where to start.
Before the JB update, I was able to connect to my factory head unit (Toyota FJ Cruiser) without issue. I could stream anything via Bluetooth, and often listened to Pandora while on trips. I updated to JB, and now Pandora will not come through the speakers. a few useful tidbits of info.
1) Pandora thinks it is playing on the phone, but no sound comes out from the car stereo.
2) Google Music and PowerAmp both work flawlessly (even hve track data on head unit now
3) I have verified the basics (Bluetooth volume is up, Bluetooth enabled in Pandora, cycled the Bluetooth setting in Pandora, rebuilt connection to head unit, R&R'ed the app, etc.)
4) I have frozen the volume notification warning they added in JB.
5) Sound WILL play for about 3 seconds if I launch another music app and Pandora opens over it. Once the other app stops, so does the sound.
6) I have not been able to test this in another vehicle as my other car does not have Bluetooth connectivity.
I am at a loss. I can't find anything about anyone else having this particular problem, but it's driving me crazy. I may have to explore other options for music, which would be fine in a couple of months anyway, as a) will be eligible for an upgrade and b) my Pandora One subscription will be ending, but would rather not have to worry about it right now.
If anyone here has experienced anything like this, I would LOVE to have some help.
Have a little info, but no real help.
chaoswyrm said:
I have been having an interesting issue with my Bionic post-JB update, and hope someone here can give me some pointers of where to start.
Before the JB update, I was able to connect to my factory head unit (Toyota FJ Cruiser) without issue. I could stream anything via Bluetooth, and often listened to Pandora while on trips. I updated to JB, and now Pandora will not come through the speakers. a few useful tidbits of info.
1) Pandora thinks it is playing on the phone, but no sound comes out from the car stereo.
2) Google Music and PowerAmp both work flawlessly (even hve track data on head unit now
3) I have verified the basics (Bluetooth volume is up, Bluetooth enabled in Pandora, cycled the Bluetooth setting in Pandora, rebuilt connection to head unit, R&R'ed the app, etc.)
4) I have frozen the volume notification warning they added in JB.
5) Sound WILL play for about 3 seconds if I launch another music app and Pandora opens over it. Once the other app stops, so does the sound.
6) I have not been able to test this in another vehicle as my other car does not have Bluetooth connectivity.
I am at a loss. I can't find anything about anyone else having this particular problem, but it's driving me crazy. I may have to explore other options for music, which would be fine in a couple of months anyway, as a) will be eligible for an upgrade and b) my Pandora One subscription will be ending, but would rather not have to worry about it right now.
If anyone here has experienced anything like this, I would LOVE to have some help.
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I have a Droid Bionic and drive 2009 Tundra. Had no issues connecting and listening to slacker radio before JB update. Currently can only play Google play music or anything that I have on my SD card. I have searched and found that it is most likely the updated Bluetooth from AVSP? 1.0 to 1.3 which toyota vehicles dont fully comply with. Sounds like the stereo head units are being left behind with the new blueototh updates. Dont know if there is a way to fix this, but it really sucks. I just bought the truck too. Should not have updated to JB. Maybe I will have to get a new head unit.
I would just use an aux in instead of replacing the head unit. My bionic acts odd when connecting Bluetooth to my 2013 civic. Poweramp always cones on automatically. I usually listen to Xm app. There are apps in the market to help control what apps will play through Bluetooth automatically and I assume those that won't play. I'd search for an app like that was well. I wouldnt replace an OEM head for that. You might have the same problem. I think its fixable through apps if you reseaech enough
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I have basically the same problem with my bionic and Lexis CT200. Apparently it is just the 4.1.2 version of JB that is the problem. If you use a 4.2.2Rom out will work. CM10.1 has worked for me. YMMV
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Yes, I've had this happen. I can't help MUCH, I'm afraid. All that works for me is to turn off Pandora, turn off BT, start over. But I *am* able to get Pandora to play through my BT usually. It will get confused and only play through the phone at times, but restarting the two seems to help.
I am rooted but still running the stock ROM on my Bionic (4.1.2). I experience this issue with my 2010 Camry. Can anyone verify that a 4.2.2 ROM will alleviate this issue?

[Q] Taming Bluetooth?

Not sure if this is an HTC One (and One X+) thing or an Android thing in general - hoping someone can clarify this for me.
I stream audio (using Google Play Music and Rdio) to my car stereo via bluetooth daily. My HTC One's behaviour when I do this is unpredictable. Specifically, which process (if any) picks up the bluetooth remote commands seems to have no rhyme or reason.
My car sends a "play" command immediately upon connection with an A2DP device. This is good, but often this command isn't executed by any app on my phone. Rdio and Google Play Music's main processes will both be running, but neither will react to the command until I give that app the focus. Sometimes I'll go a day without giving a music app "focus" and one will pick up my car's commands immediately, sometimes I'll turn off my car for 5 minutes and no app will pick up my car's commands. It's very strange.
Sometimes, I'll be playing music in Rdio and when I send the "next track" command, another music app will pick up that command and start playing instead.
The HTC One X+ seemed to behave in a similar way. Anybody else had these issues?
I used my One X and I use my One to stream music to my car but I have never experienced this. The bluetooth unit came with my car and is not an aftermarket one, I have a SEAT Leon so that BT unit is a Volkswagen one. It is a standard and not a premium one, however voice commands work, as in "music - next track" or "music - pause/play", just fine. I also connected it to my friend's Wrangler's premium bluetooth before and steering wheel commands worked just fine, both on the One X and the One. My default player is the stock Music Player and I have never even opened Google Play Music and it is hibernated under Greenify so that could be the reason why? You can also try freezing whichever music application you do not want using TitaniumBackup if you're rooted so that the commands will only reach the target application.

Pebble interfering with bluetooth playback?

Hi peoples!
I recently got my pebble and installed the app, but since I installed the app I've noticed something odd with my phone. When any bluetooth device connects, media playback will switch from the speakers to the earpiece, and bluetooth headsets wont play/control music anymore. When connected to wired headphones itll play, but the default audio buttons will change the call volume, not media. After 10-30min it reverts to how it should be...at least until a new bluetooth connection is made. This persists whether pebble is connected or not, or if the app is installed or later uninstalled. Is this something to do with the pebble's connection to the phone, and if so is there any way to fix it? I've tried a full system reset on the phone and it's good for awhile, then changes again. Is it possible to just reset the audio drivers?
For some background information, I'm using a Galaxy S4 (Verizon) running 4.3 and no custom/root software. Both the Pebble app and firmware are up to date (as of 12/10/13), and accessibility services are turned off.
I'd appreciate any help I can get, thanks in advance!
What media apps are you using? Some apps such as BeyondPod have a setting on whether they send the song info to the bluetooth device or not...turning this setting off will correct some issues.
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I got my Pebble two days ago and I've used it twice so far in my car with no problems. I use a Bluetooth receiver which I plug into my cassette adapter since I don't actually have a car system that has Bluetooth. I've also been able to control the music from the watch with no problems. I use a N5.
I got a N4. No problems over here. I would look over the settings of whatever apps you use! And play around with those.
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[Q] Bluetooth Connection Issue (Redux)

Hey All,
I've done a quick and dirty search for this problem, but I haven't found anything that's exactly the same.
I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
I have done the unpair/re-pair thing a couple of times, but nothing changes.
I had an HTC phone before this, and it'd reconnect automagically to my cars BT server, so I suspect it's nothing to do with the car's BT radio. I really miss that...
Thanks for any suggestions anyone might have in how to remedy this. Fwiw, I'm willing to go through a diagnostic procedure if someone would clue me in to just how to do that.
cheers,
john
I've had issues with the bluetooth and pairing. When I was on 4.2.2 (I think..) it wouldn't connect automatically at all, and I used an app to connect for me. I have a Chevrolet Cobalt and it wouldn't connect to my built in bluetooth for calls or a small bluetooth dongle that I use for playing music through the AUX input on the stock radio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
Once I was on 4.4.2 it seemed to work much better. I have no real issues now on 4.4.4. The only time I notice it not really working right is when I try to connect to the bluetooth speaker in our bathroom at home. If I turn the speaker on, it almost always connects to my girlfriends phone nearly instantly, even though I open the bluetooth menu and tap the paired device to manually initiate right when I turn on the speaker. It usually takes me a few tries to get mine to connect before hers, or I ask her to shut her bluetooth off for a moment while I connect. She uses the speaker every day because she leaves for work after me, so it only happens to me 1-2 times per month on the off chance that I want to listen to music or a baseball game in the shower, so it never really bothered me much.
I think the bluetooth radio in this phone could be better.. I never had any similar issues with my Droid X or Moto Razr Maxx so I'm not sure what the deal is...
Edit: forgot to mention I also have an XT1060, but not dev edition. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted, but using the official 4.4.4 VZW rom with Xposed.
I have never had any issues pairing Bluetooth - on either my car or moto 360 watch (even simultaneously).
However, I have noticed that the Bluetooth connects much quicker on custom ROMs when compared to stock.
I think tour connection issue may be a setting or rogue app related.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
jrredho said:
Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
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You may need to delete the profile for the Bluetooth pairing in your car. Could be a conflict there.
Otherwise, try looking at your Bluetooth settings on the phone.
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I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
KidJoe said:
Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Guys, thanks for staying with me on this. One thing I've definitely learned is that the bluetooth thing is something I'm pretty ignorant on. I can see that I'm going to have to study it a bit before too long. Gad, that HTC spoiled me rotten---at least in that way.
I haven't tried the phone with any other BT devices. This is mostly because I don't own but two, the car and a travel speaker, and I haven't had the speaker out of its case since I scored the phone six or eight weeks ago. Also, I did some housecleaning, so I have only a small fraction, maybe 20%, of the same apps on the MotoX that I had on the HTC. I have no apps on the MotoX that I didn't have on the latter.
As for some of the car-related suggestions, it's a 2015 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5i, which is really only level up from the base model of that line. I can't find that there is a bluetooth profile setting in the car that I can change; I think that it's too basic. The relevant user manual simply states the following:
Media format
Bluetooth audio devices cannot be
connected if they are not compatible with
the following Bluetooth® profiles.
. A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution
Profile)
. AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control
Profile)
I don't even know what either of those mean!
Anyway, what I did do is go to the phone settings, and uncheck the Media box that shows up once the car's BT server is detected. Then I try to connect with the Phone box checked. It'll still fail to connect several times, but (a) it doesn't take as long to fail to connect, (b) it doesn't take as many tries (it seems) to make the connection, and (c) when it fails, it fails totally, so I don't have to disconnect from 'Media-only Connected (No Phone)' connection. That makes it easier I suppose. Then once the connection is established, it's a simple matter to go back to settings, and check the Media box. That add-on connection happens pretty quickly, but the process is still a little overwrought, imo.
Of course, KidJoe, up until you mentioned a Headset Profile, I didn't know one existed. But when I try to play music on my phone using PowerAmp, well, the app doesn't hook up to the BT anyway. That's a key difference between the HTC and the MotoX. In PowerAmp, I have "Play over Bluetooth on Detection" selected. The headset isn't being detected at all. So maybe that goes some distance to explaining what I'm encountering.
Again thanks to both of guys for hanging in there with me! I'll keep trudging "onward through the fog," as it were...
cheers,
john
A2DP and AVRC are used for Bluetooth Stereo audio streaming (like playing Pandora on your phone via your car stereo). Not phone calls.
For phone calls, usually a Headset or Handsfree profiles are used, and sometimes BT Phone Book Access (so you can see your phone's contact names/numbers on the car's screen).
I've run into compatibility issues between some phones and some Headset/Handfree devices (mostly cars, but a few bluetooth headsets too). Often times when this happens, you're stuck. Each side will blame the other (i.e. Moto will blame the Subaru car stereo, and Subaru will blame the phone).
I have had issues re-connecting to my car (a 2011 Saab 9-4x with Bose/Nav), IF I had my Moto S11 Flex HD headset connected to my Moto X before I got in the car (even if the S11 was powered off/disconnected from the X before I started the car). Usually toggling the X's bluetooth off/on, and sometimes worst case rebooting the phone, has always fixed it.. Another time I had troubles connecting to my Saab's car kit was when my wife was using her phone to stream audio. The next time I got in the car, I had to manually connect my phone. The car always tries to connect to the the last phone used, so it was looking for my wifes and it took a while before it timed out. When it did time out, it didn't look for mine.
Since you have a 2015 Subaru, I would consider visiting your car dealer, ask them to help with pairing the phone properly, and making sure its working right. See what they have to say.
My bluetooth in my car stopped pairing the other day, and it turns out it was an app that updated and requested permissions related to bluetooth. I didn't notice them because it's an app I trust so I accepted the new permissions without really looking at it.
I used App Settings (Xposed module) to disable the permissions and my bluetooth works fine again.
I could still pair with things if I went to the bluetooth paired device list and manually tapped on the device I wanted to connect with, but it would not pair automatically (like when I got in my car). Once I disabled that permission, it started working again without issue.
May be worth a look through your installed apps to see if anything has access to bluetooth and may be interfering.
Hey All,
Thanks again for the continued help!
It's true, I didn't do any research on app interference before I posted this thread topic, but since a couple of you have brought it up, I decided to do a little research. I installed a permissions app, and took a look at the permissions that allows an app to automatically seek out, and pair with, Bluetooth servers. I have to admit, I got some surprises there. (Who would've thought that Beautiful Widgets needed that permission; it is now gone.)
Anyway, most of the remaining apps are either system/Moto-related, or ones I would really like to keep. I'll report back on what I learn. If there are other permissions that I need to reference besides the two pairing-connecting to Bluetooth ones please let me know...
cheers,
john

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