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Hello folks.
I'm on a bit of a limbo. Can you help me?
Fist of all i should state that i was a former Galaxy S3 owner, so even if I have some experience with the underworld of rooting and flashing, bootloader issues are a bit alien for me.
The problem:
My Brazilian Moto X with unlocked bootloader was on 4.4, and after receiving the OTA update, i thought that i could update it if I removed root and etc (after all i was not using Xposed and ETC, so no deep modifications at /system that i know).
Of course i was wrong, and as greeted with a nice bootloop by my moto X. No problem, I got the 4.4.2 UK and flashed it thought RSD lite. After the flashing, I dit not liked the modifications the UK 4.4.2 retail have (like carrier name on bar, etc etc) and just flashed Philz and recovered my nandroid.
All is nice, but now i can't update to 4.4.2 Brazilian because i can't install 4.4 Retail Brazilian trought RSD lite, since the Moto X just detects that it haves 4.4.2 bootloader and not let me downgrade! I'm in a Limbo \o/
What now? There is any way to downgrade the bootloader? There is any one who have a full Brazilian 4.4.2 image (or a image without carrier name on the bar) for unlocked bootloaders? Any 4.4.2 flashable update using CWM or TWRP?
Oh god, so many questions. Thanks for your atention!
brunodmjr said:
Hello folks.
I'm on a bit of a limbo. Can you help me?
Fist of all i should state that i was a former Galaxy S3 owner, so even if I have some experience with the underworld of rooting and flashing, bootloader issues are a bit alien for me.
The problem:
My Brazilian Moto X with unlocked bootloader was on 4.4, and after receiving the OTA update, i thought that i could update it if I removed root and etc (after all i was not using Xposed and ETC, so no deep modifications at /system that i know).
Of course i was wrong, and as greeted with a nice bootloop by my moto X. No problem, I got the 4.4.2 UK and flashed it thought RSD lite. After the flashing, I dit not liked the modifications the UK 4.4.2 retail have (like carrier name on bar, etc etc) and just flashed Philz and recovered my nandroid.
All is nice, but now i can't update to 4.4.2 Brazilian because i can't install 4.4 Retail Brazilian trought RSD lite, since the Moto X just detects that it haves 4.4.2 bootloader and not let me downgrade! I'm in a Limbo \o/
What now? There is any way to downgrade the bootloader? There is any one who have a full Brazilian 4.4.2 image (or a image without carrier name on the bar) for unlocked bootloaders? Any 4.4.2 flashable update using CWM or TWRP?
Oh god, so many questions. Thanks for your atention!
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you can't downgrade the bootlaoder sorry
as for the carrier name in the bar someone will make a xposed mod to remove it.
i would either stay with 4.4 if that makes you happy or flash the correct 4.4.2 firmware for your device and tweak it to your liking.
Unfortunately you cannot downgrade the bootloader from 4.4.2 to 4.4.
Is it so dificult to do a 4.4.2 flashable update or we just lack devs?
brunodmjr said:
Is it so dificult to do a 4.4.2 flashable update or we just lack devs?
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If you find the factory 4.4.2 image for your device, then you manually flash the 4.4.2 files.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
If you find the factory 4.4.2 image for your device, then you manually flash the 4.4.2 files.
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I can only find the UK one. There is no 4.4.2 factory image for Brazilian Moto X, and i really don't want to install Xposed to remove the carrier name from the bar, since i play Square Enix titles.
brunodmjr said:
I can only find the UK one. There is no 4.4.2 factory image for Brazilian Moto X, and i really don't want to install Xposed to remove the carrier name from the bar, since i play Square Enix titles.
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Well...then you are at an impasse. Sorry.
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Well...then you are at an impasse. Sorry.
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So bad. Know any way to convert the OTA update to a CWM flashable zip? Any guide or something?
brunodmjr said:
So bad. Know any way to convert the OTA update to a CWM flashable zip? Any guide or something?
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No. I, like you, depend on the hard work of developers here for that kind of thing.
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No. I, like you, depend on the hard work of developers here for that kind of thing.
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I'm a dev too. Let's research.
The full image will probably be available in a few days to a week, so you should probably just wait for it since your phone is working.
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
flashallthetime said:
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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It certainly seems Motorola has changed the game with 4.4.2, flashing other carriers firmware at this time seems quite risky. As you said I wouldn't recommend it right now until more is known and all full flash images of 4.4.2 are released.
Steve-x said:
It certainly seems Motorola has changed the game with 4.4.2, flashing other carriers firmware at this time seems quite risky. As you said I wouldn't recommend it right now until more is known and all full flash images of 4.4.2 are released.
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Someone should start a thread with all info and have it stickied, getting stupid here, miss info, assuming have a unlocked boot loader will prevent hard bricks.
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
flashallthetime said:
Boot loaders are number differently that's why everyone who has flash, or just about everyone who has flashed a new firmware has had issue evedn though the firmwares are 4.4.2, morale . Flash only your specific carrier firmware and all this craziness would stop, my 2 cents
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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OP's issue was that he wanted to downgrade to 4.2 -- not that he was trying to change the carrier version of the 4.4.2 bootloader. Are there any threads about someone having an issue trying to flash a different carrier's version of 4.4.2?
piccit said:
OP's issue was that he wanted to downgrade to 4.2 -- not that he was trying to change the carrier version of the 4.4.2 bootloader. Are there any threads about someone having an issue trying to flash a different carrier's version of 4.4.2?
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Threads no but multiple threads about issues, stay away from flashing another carriers 4.4.2 firmware at this point in time, I'm trying to get boot loader numbers for all carrier firmware , so far all north american and south american boot loaders are the same but T-Mobile and AT&T have yet to be released, European boot loaders are not yet posted
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
Every issue that I've read about is from people trying to downgrade. I haven't seen anyone have an issue about trying to side-grade
piccit said:
Every issue that I've read about is from people trying to downgrade. I haven't seen anyone have an issue about trying to side-grade
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Boot loaders numbers are different
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
That's the risk of being impatient and flashing things in a hurry when they drop....that weren't made for our particular phone.
Remember ...good things come to those who wait.......and bad things for those who are too impatient.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
Just find the Brazilian full 4.4.2 file and rsdlite it or mfastboot flash. I believe it was floating around somewhere.
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I just bought a new VZW Dev Edition and rooted/unlocked the BL on it. After this, I flashed several different ROM's and on every one, I can't access the "security" menu in settings. This is the only menu in my entire settings that I cant open.
I have no idea whats going on, so any help would be appreciated.
Current setup: Latest TWRP with Eclipse 4.4.2
I had an exact same issue after flashing my xt1053 to t-mobile (original was some mexian customer) without modem.
After I flashed original modem from t-mobile - 'security' option began to work.
Hope this helps you in some way.
Thanks! I have looked all over this forum and google searched...where can I find the stock VZW modem to flash?
@bigw34 First... Boot into bootloader/fastboot mode on the phone.
Which of the following does it say for the second line?
30.70
30.71
30.B2
30.B4
30.B7
If it says 30.b7, and you are using a 4.4.2 or lower rom based rom, that is your issue. If it says 30.b4 and you are using a 4.4 or lower based rom, that is your issue.
KidJoe said:
@bigw34 First... Boot into bootloader/fastboot mode on the phone.
Which of the following does it say for the second line?
30.70
30.71
30.B2
30.B4
30.B7
If it says 30.b7, and you are using a 4.4.2 or lower rom based rom, that is your issue. If it says 30.b4 and you are using a 4.4 or lower based rom, that is your issue.
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I ended up flashing back the stock 4.4.2 image from Motorola since I have the Dev Edition. I then flashed Eclipse ROM again and it all worked perfectly. Thanks so much for your help! I will keep this post around for the future. I always appreciate learning something new from people like you on here!
I have a bootloader-UNLOCKED Moto X XT1058 and I'm running one of the really old CM lollipop builds that came out back in November.
I love Lollipop but I miss my Moto Display, and I was wondering if there was a safe way for me to downgrade back to a 4.4.x firmware so I could get it back.
My bootloader is unlocked, but I'm concerned about any issues that would arise from downgrading from a 5.x to a 4.x firmware. Is this safe?
Thanks
mspadam said:
I have a bootloader-UNLOCKED Moto X XT1058 and I'm running one of the really old CM lollipop builds that came out back in November.
I love Lollipop but I miss my Moto Display, and I was wondering if there was a safe way for me to downgrade back to a 4.4.x firmware so I could get it back.
My bootloader is unlocked, but I'm concerned about any issues that would arise from downgrading from a 5.x to a 4.x firmware. Is this safe?
Thanks
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I used one of the first CM12 ROMs available in november and then returned to an official ROM for XT1058 (KitKat 4.4.4) and it worked flawlessly, so you should be ok.
mspadam said:
I have a bootloader-UNLOCKED Moto X XT1058 and I'm running one of the really old CM lollipop builds that came out back in November.
I love Lollipop but I miss my Moto Display, and I was wondering if there was a safe way for me to downgrade back to a 4.4.x firmware so I could get it back.
My bootloader is unlocked, but I'm concerned about any issues that would arise from downgrading from a 5.x to a 4.x firmware. Is this safe?
Thanks
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I believe that CM only flashes /System. IF so, to return to a stock Moto rom, just boot into fastboot/bootloader, check the bootloader version, and the corresponding Moto rom, or a newer Moto Rom.
30.70 = original 4.2.2
30.71 = 4.2.2 OTA with camera update
30.B2 = 4.4
30.B4 = 4.4.2
30.B7 = 4.4.4
Umm. Custom ROMs have nothing to do with anything technically speaking. Unless it's an official Moto update that was pushed to the device via OTA or RSD, then it might change things depending on your carrier device. Downgrading is nothing more than flashing a ROM or restoring a nandroid in the case of ROMs via TWRP/CWM or whatever you use.
Problem one. The fact you asked this means you probably goofed up and never made a nandroid backup. If you did make one. Just restore that stock nandroid and you're set. If not. Time to RSD or fastboot back to stock.
You can always flash back to stock with RSD however, I too missed ambient display until I tried Dynamic Notifications. Totally replaces ambient display for any of the CM based ROMs I have tried.
Thanks for all the help, guys!
One last question, I'm retarded. I have the Rogers Canada version but the Rogers firmware (ROGERS-CA_GHOST_KXA20.16-1.26_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml) is apparently 4.4.2 - will it matter if I use a different firmware that is 4.4.4 (which corresponds to my Bootloader version)?
mspadam said:
Thanks for all the help, guys!
One last question, I'm retarded. I have the Rogers Canada version but the Rogers firmware (ROGERS-CA_GHOST_KXA20.16-1.26_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml) is apparently 4.4.2 - will it matter if I use a different firmware that is 4.4.4 (which corresponds to my Bootloader version)?
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NEVER use a firmware that is for an older bootloader.. i.e. NEVER DOWNGRADE.
If bootloader version on your phone is 30.B7, then it corresponds with 4.4.4, so you MUST use a STOCK Moto 4.4.4 SBF!!!!
But if your bootloader version is 30.B4, that corresponds with 4.4.2, and you MAY use either 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 SBF. Just know that if you use 4.4.4, you will not be able to downgrade to 4.4.2 in the future.
If you can't find your rom.. check ALL of the sources linked in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347
Use the motox toolkit to downgrade your phone/return back to stock
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Thanks for the help - so if I use a different 4.4.4 firmware that isn't Rogers it won't matter? I'm just concerned that there's a difference between them, my phone is Rogers but if I use a 4.4.4 firmware that isn't Rogers will it make any difference or is it not a big deal?
mspadam said:
Thanks for the help - so if I use a different 4.4.4 firmware that isn't Rogers it won't matter? I'm just concerned that there's a difference between them, my phone is Rogers but if I use a 4.4.4 firmware that isn't Rogers will it make any difference or is it not a big deal?
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Are you asking about flashing a 3rd party rom, like CM? or a Stock Moto rom for a different carrier/model?
I would recommend against flashing a ROM not meant for your carrier/model... There are several possible outcomes which I've seen.
It works, but GPT.BIN version is slightly different and prevents your ability to flash back to the correct ROM for your carrier/model.
Flashes "correctly", but renders your cellular radio unusable.
works ok, but no differently, and no added functions.
Keep in mind, the above only holds true for flashing a different STOCK MOTO ROMS..
NOW, if you are asking about flashing a 3rd party ROM, like CM, or other, you should be relatively safe, and be able to flash back to stock if/when you wish.
KidJoe said:
NEVER use a firmware that is for an older bootloader.. i.e. NEVER DOWNGRADE.
If bootloader version on your phone is 30.B7, then it corresponds with 4.4.4, so you MUST use a STOCK Moto 4.4.4 SBF!!!!
But if your bootloader version is 30.B4, that corresponds with 4.4.2, and you MAY use either 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 SBF. Just know that if you use 4.4.4, you will not be able to downgrade to 4.4.2 in the future.
If you can't find your rom.. check ALL of the sources linked in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347
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KidJoe said:
Are you asking about flashing a 3rd party rom, like CM? or a Stock Moto rom for a different carrier/model?
I would recommend against flashing a ROM not meant for your carrier/model... There are several possible outcomes which I've seen.
It works, but GPT.BIN version is slightly different and prevents your ability to flash back to the correct ROM for your carrier/model.
Flashes "correctly", but renders your cellular radio unusable.
works ok, but no differently, and no added functions.
Keep in mind, the above only holds true for flashing a different STOCK MOTO ROMS..
NOW, if you are asking about flashing a 3rd party ROM, like CM, or other, you should be relatively safe, and be able to flash back to stock if/when you wish.
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I was hoping to reflash to my carrier's specific firmware, but I can't seem to find one higher than 4.4.2 on the ROM list or anywhere else
That explains a bunch though, thank you!
mspadam said:
I was hoping to reflash to my carrier's specific firmware, but I can't seem to find one higher than 4.4.2 on the ROM list or anywhere else
That explains a bunch though, thank you!
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I'm sure Rogers 4.4.4 is found in one of the sites listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347
i've an xt1052 indian version can anyobdy tell which rom to use, i tried all that i could get, none of it worked
Hi there,
I've been looking on XDA for a guide on how to flash stock 4.4.4 rom for Moto X XT1052. I'm also looking for the actual rom
Can anyone help me because I haven't been able to find it yet.
(
Something like this but then for the Moto X:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
)
Thanks!
UPDATE 01:
Found the roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347
But now I have a new question: can I flash the US Retail rom (this one, for example: http://motofirmware.center/files/file/1045-retail-us-444-kxa2112-l1291-2-cid9-cfc-1ffxmlzip/ ) on my XT1052 O2 (Europe)?
RejhGadellaa said:
Hi there,
I've been looking on XDA for a guide on how to flash stock 4.4.4 rom for Moto X XT1052. I'm also looking for the actual rom
Can anyone help me because I haven't been able to find it yet.
(
Something like this but then for the Moto X:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
)
Thanks!
UPDATE 01:
Found the roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347
But now I have a new question: can I flash the US Retail rom (this one, for example: http://motofirmware.center/files/file/1045-retail-us-444-kxa2112-l1291-2-cid9-cfc-1ffxmlzip/ ) on my XT1052 O2 (Europe)?
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First off, you have an XT1052, please only flash an XT1052 rom/SBF. I've seen XT1052 users try flashing XT1053 or XT1058 roms which left there radio's non-functioning.
Also be advised that you can not downgrade GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img. If you flash an SBF meant for another model, it might have a newer GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img and that could prevent you from flashing back to your stock XT1052 rom/SBF. (I've seen this also happen with XT1052 users who tried flashing Moto SBF's meant for other model 2013 X's.)
Lastly, you link to an XT1045 which is a Moto G meant for ATT USA, and completely different than the XT1052 (which is of course a 2013 Moto X).
As for the process of flashing back to stock, please see -> [GUIDE][VIDEO] Moto X - Return to 100% stock (using RSD Lite OR manual flash)
Thanks, will have a look.
KidJoe said:
I've seen XT1052 users try flashing XT1053 or XT1058 roms which left there radio's non-functioning.
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I have done this by mistake without verifying the XT type properly and now radio is not functioning. Is it possible to get radio back if I re-flash with the proper XT type? I haven't tried this yet, but downloading image from site filefactory at folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/ based on recommendation else where on xda. Or will this be futile attempt?
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balajid said:
I have done this by mistake without verifying the XT type properly and now radio is not functioning. Is it possible to get radio back if I re-flash with the proper XT type? I haven't tried this yet, but downloading image from site filefactory at folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/ based on recommendation else where on xda. Or will this be futile attempt?
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(sorry for the delayed response, I'm on vacation and spending time with my family)
Some of the older posters couldn't get the radio working after flashing the correct one. bUT it's worth. Shot to flash with the latest 5.1 SBF for your model.
hi guys i surpass bricked but yeah one thing is important for it pc or bootloader must be unlocked so u can flash custom ROM or custom recovery.
I've been googling around and reading threads ... want to get Lollipop on my Sprint Moto X.
But quite confused by all the different versions.
Currently I have
- unlocked bootloader
- rooted
- TWRP recovery
- unlocked by Sprint for Int'l use
And this:
Code:
baseband
MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R
Kernel 3.4.42-gcac35be
[email protected] #1
HW version
P30
System version
212.44.28.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US
Build number
KXA21.12-L1.28
I do NOT care about every using Sprint again; I just want to be able to use GSM SIM in Europe.
If someone could please verify what I've gleaned ...
As I understand, I would need to
1. Flash the XT1053 4.4.4 from https://cloud.mail.ru/public/64a43f0fcc1e/Moto_X/Official_XT1053/
I do this from TWRP, yes?
2. Then flash a XT1053 5.0 or 5.1 from ... where?
Can I use this Verizon one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/vzw-5-1-soak-ota-t3144689
.... if I flash a Verizon 4.4.4?
3. Then I would need to re-unlock for int'l SIM ... as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155
But only change the NV-ITEM thing, not the SPC thing?
Or do I do that BEFORE flashing Lollipop?
Again, I do NOT care about every using CDMA/Sprint again.
But I do want GSM SIM with LTE in Europe.
Thanks!
There is no updates until now, you can get some info in here
also its able to flash any custom ROM like CM12.1 or any other via recovery
Any news?
Hi, did you try anything?
I have XT1049, manually flashed it to 5.1 with XT1056 rom, it worked fine, but than I installed another update to fix stagefright and since than phone does not detect sim card, you can read my whole story here
I just wanted to know if you had tried anything about installing lollipop? XT1049 and 1056 are almost identical hardware so we are in the same boat of being in the minority
I ended up just flashing the XT1053 version from this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/xt1053-retail-stock-lollipop-flashable-t3155843
and it's been working fine.
d0g said:
I ended up just flashing the XT1053 version from this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/xt1053-retail-stock-lollipop-flashable-t3155843
and it's been working fine.
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I did the same, but what did you do with the stagefright? Didn't you get OTA notification right after you installed lollipop, it should have been stagefright fix?
Thanks for your response, it's very important for me, trying to figure out what to do my "No sim card detected" XT1049.
0bser said:
I did the same, but what did you do with the stagefright? Didn't you get OTA notification right after you installed lollipop, it should have been stagefright fix?
Thanks for your response, it's very important for me, trying to figure out what to do my "No sim card detected" XT1049.
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(a) It was a few months ago, so I don't remember exactly what 'happened' -- but I don't recall getting any OTA notification
(b) I am in Europe, so haven't connected to Sprint network at all since then
(c) Mine is a 1056, so may be different ...
Sorry, wish I could help, but I'm not nearly expert enough to advise!
I assume you've done the idiotic stuff, like cleaning your SIM card, re-seating it, trying a different SIM, etc...
Yes, tried everything including sim cleaning etc.
I'm not in US neither, nor am I using Sprint.
Could you check and send your system version and baseband version please?
I might figure out something from it.
And if you remember did you directly flash XT1053 on 4.4.2? Or did you flash XT1053 4.4.4 first and then lollipop ,as you have written in OP here?