Moto x or Nexus 5 - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I sold my nexus 4 a few months back and have been using a galaxy nexus as a get over device. I have seen the reports of the 5.9" nexus 6 and that is too big to fit in my pocket.
I designed my moto x and it came to roughly $600 with tax.
I can find a nexus 5 for about half the cost.
Is the $300 worth it? What do you guys think. Especially if you have had experience with both devices I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
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I don't care for the nexus 5 (which is what I'm typing on now). Bad signal, bad battery, bad camera, bad speakers. I greatly preferred the 2013 x over the nexus 5. My 2014 x will arrive tomorrow and I'm sure I'll like it more at first. Will have to see if it exceeds the 2013 version but I'm pretty sure it'll exceed the nexus 5. $300 better? I don't know...some people like the 5 and plan to keep it. If you have the money then give both a try and sell / return the one you like less.

Well I can tell you I just made that exact switch, from a Nexus 5 to the Moto X. Is it worth $300 more probably not. But is the Moto X better yes, hands down. The signal I get on the Moto X is much better than I had with the Nexus 5. Battery life is also much better. Camera wise to me they are about the same, which isn't really great, just OK. Software wise Moto X is about 99.9% stock Android and is very fast and smooth. The Nexus 5 will get updates faster but if you get the pure Moto X no carrier version the updates should be very soon after nexus devices. And active display is a really cool feature which the Nexus 5 does not have. You can pretty much send a text, call someone read an email play music etc without even touching your phone. Is all that worth $300 more probably not but only you can decide that I happy I made the switch, I sold my nexus 5 for $250 and the Moto X was $500 so it was a bit easier to pay $250 for it rather than the full price of $500. Oh one more thing the speaker on the Moto X blows away the speaker on the Nexus 5, its much much louder and crystal clear.....

I know there is a $50 off when you have a edu account .

jmtjr278 said:
Hey guys,
I sold my nexus 4 a few months back and have been using a galaxy nexus as a get over device. I have seen the reports of the 5.9" nexus 6 and that is too big to fit in my pocket.
I designed my moto x and it came to roughly $600 with tax.
I can find a nexus 5 for about half the cost.
Is the $300 worth it? What do you guys think. Especially if you have had experience with both devices I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
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what did you get to bring price up to $600 on your moto x? I had the nexus 5, loved that phone but the moto x is better in almost every way. Build, speaker , call quality, bigger screen but about same size device and faster. The Motorola added software is nice and doesn't hinder the stock android experience. Is it worth 300 over nexus 5? No but the x is better. I'd go for a pure edition and maybe spec it out a little cheaper if the $600 is bothering you. The plain moto x with soft touch plastic back is still a nicer build phone than the nexus 5 for $499.
I have the a&t model but might sell so that I can get a pure edition.
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jmtjr278 said:
Hey guys,
I sold my nexus 4 a few months back and have been using a galaxy nexus as a get over device. I have seen the reports of the 5.9" nexus 6 and that is too big to fit in my pocket.
I designed my moto x and it came to roughly $600 with tax.
I can find a nexus 5 for about half the cost.
Is the $300 worth it? What do you guys think. Especially if you have had experience with both devices I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
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what did you get to bring price up to $600 on your moto x? I had the nexus 5, loved that phone but the moto x is better in almost every way. Build, speaker , call quality, bigger screen but about same size device and faster. The Motorola added software is nice and doesn't hinder the stock android experience. Is it worth 300 over nexus 5? No but the x is better. I'd go for a pure edition and maybe spec it out a little cheaper if the $600 is bothering you. The plain moto x with soft touch plastic back is still a nicer build phone than the nexus 5 for $499.
I have the a&t model but might sell so that I can get a pure edition.
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It was that price with taxes and everything added in.
And the plain version is nice but if I'm spending that much I'm going with exactly what I want.
I did spring for the white body bamboo back and blue accents. Pure edition. Should arrive Thursday.
Pretty psyched.
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I've had around 11 replacements when I had my N5.
-Call quality was awful as noise cancellation never worked properly
-Got dead pixels on 3 of the replacements
-Small particles of dust began to generate between the screen and the bezel due to bad design
-Poorly optimized for it's hardware as benchmarks prove

So signal is way better with the Moto X. I would lose service entirely with my n5 at times in my house. The dB are consistently stronger with the Moto X.
It also handles multitasking better. The most intensive thing I do is run a dash cam app while navigating. The n5 (and 2013 moto x) both struggled with this and would lag while unlocking, or while scrolling around the map, or when turning off the dash cam. So far with my new 2014 x it acts almost like the background dash cam app isn't running at all.
Without the signal issue I may have kept the n5 and dealt with the camera. Not sure if it's "worth" $300 over the n5 but it is an improvement for sure.

When I had a 2013 X, I bought the Nexus 5 to play around with. After about five minutes, I packaged up the N5 to go back to google. And that was comparing it with my 2013 X!

Definitely don't get the nexus 5. The 6 will be out probably November 1st. People have beat this horse dead. Read one of the thousand comparisons between the 2014 moto x, nexus 5, LG G3, and galaxy s5 and make your decision. At the end of the day no one on here is going to say anything to sway you, you know what you want, so just get it. It sounds like you want the nexus 5 to me because of the price point. I say to that, still wait for the 6 because it is essentially a larger dev ed. moto x and will probably only be $100-$200 more depending on what storage size you get. I went with the x because a 5.9 inch screen is way too big for me. even the 5.2 on the x is borderline.

Want a good phone with great features.... The X.
Are a flashaholic and like many options... N5 or 6.
That's the biggest decision in my eyes. ?

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The Moto X or Note 3 or LG G2 or Nexus 5??

Which one y'all this going to be the best? Right now I have the Moto X and it's the best phone I had so far but what about these other great phones are they just as good or better? Will the Nexus 5 be like the Moto X just with a bigger screen and a little differences? What y'all think?
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I have the SGS4 and honestly I'm so over skins on android. so no matter what the specs on a phone I'm done with anything skinned. That said I am torn between the Moto X and nexus 5. The 5 maybe has better specs but I really love the X and want motorola and the USA made X to do well. So in in the fence. 60% Moto x 40% nexus 5
I tried the Note 2 last year and hated the huge size. So for that reason the Note 3 is completely out of the question (even though i'd love it).
The LG G2 is out of the question for me also because in my opinion if i'm gonna get a 5" phone it's going to be the Nexus 5.
That being said, I love my Moto X. I have one more week to return it to AT&T and decide if I want something else but i'm not sure what i'm going to do.
From what I can tell the only advantages to the Nexus 5 will be the larger screen, the fact that it's LCD (which I prefer) and the development will probably be awesome.
The Moto X has SUCH good battery life, comfortable size, active notifications, and as someone else mentioned... built in the US which I like.
I'm pretty torn between the X and the Nexus 5 and ultimately i'll probably end up keeping the X and if anything i'll sell it down the road and pick up a Nexus 5 off contract.
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I tried the Note 2 last year and hated the huge size. So for that reason the Note 3 is completely out of the question (even though i'd love it).
The LG G2 is out of the question for me also because in my opinion if i'm gonna get a 5" phone it's going to be the Nexus 5.
That being said, I love my Moto X. I have one more week to return it to AT&T and decide if I want something else but i'm not sure what i'm going to do.
From what I can tell the only advantages to the Nexus 5 will be the larger screen, the fact that it's LCD (which I prefer) and the development will probably be awesome.
The Moto X has SUCH good battery life, comfortable size, active notifications, and as someone else mentioned... built in the US which I like.
I'm pretty torn between the X and the Nexus 5 and ultimately i'll probably end up keeping the X and if anything i'll sell it down the road and pick up a Nexus 5 off contract.
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Its posts like this that make me want the X and not wait for the nexus 5
Yea I got the Moto X on the first of October so it's to late for me if I wanted to switch. I have Sprint. I love the phone but I have a feeling it's going to be like the Nexus 5 so it's no need to bring the Nexus 5 but I hope it gets Updated just as fast as the Nexus phones.
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I think the T-Mobile and developer editions will be updated right away
AndreaCristiano said:
Its posts like this that make me want the X and not wait for the nexus 5
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Are you still using an S4? It's hard to appreciate how awesome the Moto X is until you actually use it.
Every night I still have between 20-40% battery with 2-5 hours screen on time over about 16 hours.
I've never seen anything like it except phones like the Note.
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Yes unfortunately haven't decided if I want to plunge the 600-650 for the moto x or wait and see what the nexus 5 costs
I hope the Sprint Moto X gets updates right away. And when I went to Sprint I was going to get the IPhone 5C but then I saw the Moto X so I got it and I made a good decision it's a very awesome phone.
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AndreaCristiano said:
Yes unfortunately haven't decided if I want to plunge the 600-650 for the moto x or wait and see what the nexus 5 costs
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Well that changes things a bit in my opinion. If I were looking at paying full retail for the Moto X or potentially as low as $349-399 for the Nexus 5 I would absolutely choose the Nexus 5 every single time.
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Well that changes things a bit in my opinion. If I were looking at paying full retail for the Moto X or potentially as low as $349-399 for the Nexus 5 I would absolutely choose the Nexus 5 every single time.
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And there lies the conundrum. The person I was selling the sgs4 to decided he didn't want to wait any longer. I now have only the option of gazelle or buyback world. The most their giving is 322 so if this nexus doesn't drop by months end that will go down as well
AndreaCristiano said:
And there lies the conundrum. The person I was selling the sgs4 to decided he didn't want to wait any longer. I now have only the option of gazelle or buyback world. The most their giving is 322 so if this nexus doesn't drop by months end that will go down as well
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Have you ever used Swappa? I've had GREAT success. The S4 is currently listing for $300-600.
cc16177 said:
Have you ever used Swappa? I've had GREAT success. The S4 is currently listing for $300-600.
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No how does it work
AndreaCristiano said:
No how does it work
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Just check out www.swappa.com you make an account and list your phone. Check how much other phones like yours sold for to figure out an asking price and I generally ask for 20 over that to allow wiggle room.
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Just check out www.swappa.com you make an account and list your phone. Check how much other phones like yours sold for to figure out an asking price and I generally ask for 20 over that to allow wiggle room.
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Phone is up. Selling it a 32g Samsung SD and the S view cover
I know I hate skinned android and I dont have much time to flash or keep up with the latest ROMS, so LG, Samsung, and HTC were out for me. I picked up the moto X and I will probably hold onto it for a little while and then sell if for the nexus.
That being said, the X is an awesome phone. Great form factor, active notifications are awesome, good battery, no lag or issues.

Have a nexus 4, should i upgrade to moto x?

I actually have a nexus 5 but my gf has a nexus 4, (my old one). I got the promo code for the X (150 off) that i havent used yet. I am curious if I should upgrade her nexus 4 to the moto x for christmas. It doesnt seem like its really an upgrade cept for a few small things. With the moto x also being 350 after the rebate i am wondering if I should just wait and order her a nexus 5.
I am hoping someone that has used the n4 and moto x can shed some light and your thoughts. Thanks!
newtonfb said:
I actually have a nexus 5 but my gf has a nexus 4, (my old one). I got the promo code for the X (150 off) that i havent used yet. I am curious if I should upgrade her nexus 4 to the moto x for christmas. It doesnt seem like its really an upgrade cept for a few small things. With the moto x also being 350 after the rebate i am wondering if I should just wait and order her a nexus 5.
I am hoping someone that has used the n4 and moto x can shed some light and your thoughts. Thanks!
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I just did exactly this switch...and I'm really glad.
Nexus devices cut a few corners to make them the prices they are. The moto X is an extremely well made phone... The only thing anyone could complain about as far as I see is no SD card slot.
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The second thing to complain is the camera quality not just shooting quality, but also I have to install a 3rd party app to get the Photo Sphere function.
I also had a N4...once I used touchless control, impossible to return to N4.
I have a nexus 5, gave my boyfriend my nexus 4, and bought a Dev Edition Moto x on cyber monday. I have been using it all day and i'm loving it so far. I'm going to test drive it for a week. At the end of the week i have to decide if i want to sell this Moto X or My Nexus 5.
While with the nexus 5 for a month, I felt that it was too big sometimes, i had to shift it in my hand all the time to reach the top of the screen. I loved the 4.7 inch screen on my nexus 4. IMO its the perfect size screen for the size of my hands. I'd say i have medium sized hands.

Why did you get the moto x instead of the nexus 6 ?

The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the trigger on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
I went with Moto X because I wasn't sure whether the Nexus 6 was going to be 5.2" or 5.9". I figured that with the delivery and the return period that I could check out the Moto X and return it if the Nexus 6 was a 5.2" phone. I love everything about the Nexus 6, except the size. I'll be keeping the Moto X. 5.2" is almost too big, 5.9" as your only offering is just completely stupid imo. I understand that there are some people out there think that bigger is better, but I'm willing to bet that a majority aren't interested in a phone that large. Polls have shown this.
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
dia_naji said:
The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the plug on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
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I believe you meant pull the trigger. Pulling the plug implies taking somebody off life support to kill them.
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mattjacobson said:
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
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You just nailed it! If the new nexus was 5.2", it would be competing directly with the Moto X. You chose the option best for you, and for that, you are a good cat!
Size
Seriously, Motorola has 3 new devices. They only needed one.
Moto X design language and customization. Droid Turbo hardware including screen size and resolution, Nexus 6 pure android support and the 65 GB memory size availability. Put those elements of the phones together and the single device would be better than any one of the three.
Size, phablets are a blight on society :laugh: If the Nexus 6 were <5.2 I would've considered it, although it would be tough to give up my leather back
And the fact that, while Android L will add most of these, I find that the moto additions to stock android to be extremely value add.
Size is the true factor. In hind sight I would have likely gone with the turbo.
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Size and Bamboo!
Once I started reading that the Nexus would be designed based of the X, I figured why wait and also the bamboo back is just awesome.
You do lose quick Android updates, but to be honest, this thing stock is just as good as any phone I've ever used.
I've been spoiled by CM ever since I've had an Android device, but couldn't be happier with my choice to get the Moto X.
I went with the X for the size and close to stock Android feel. That nexus 6 is just too damn big.
5.9 too much, too expensive compared to the X, dont need all that battery, too much screen on QHD
The X is all i need, enough battery and moto maker.
And yes the 805 and the 801 are pretty much the same
I went with the Moto X since I needed a new phone. With today's announcement, I'm glad I bought it. The N6, being 5.96 inches in screen size is so darn big. The price is too high. For 64gb, I would be spending probably $700. I could get a financing plan through T-Mobile but still, that's expensive. Being a tech geek though, it's still tempting
The thing n6 has is the better camera sensor, imx214. Moto X has imx115 or whatever (older). N6 has OIS also. Also, the fact n6 has a 64gb option is good. Let's not forget lte band 12
I'll wait until 64bit chips and 4gb ram phones are out. QHD will probably be the standard next year
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As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
Verizon. Need I say more.
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GatorsUF said:
As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
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You could even say that theres the Moto X 2013 for someone looking for a cheaper, smaller and still very very good flagship phone.
So you have the Moto E & Moto G for budget/entry devices, the X 2013 for cheaper and smaller flagship, the X 2014 for the new flagship device and the Nexus 6 for a phablet
After all every Motorola phone its pretty much a Nexus device
For those who want woodback for their Nexus 6, ToastMade will eventually release a woodback for it, so no worry there.
I actually was looking forward to buying the Nexus 6 as backup device for my Moto X, to use as a tablet and backup phone. At $649 I would get it as my primary device, which I will not since it's too large, but not as a backup device. So I bought a used Nexus 7 for ablet instead.
For back up phone, I think I will just get the Sprint Moto X 2013 and GSM unlock it, or a Nexus 5.
6 inch screen is way too big. Super happy with my moto x and leather back and green accents. As everyone else said, I will miss the unlocked boot loader and all that but I can live without it. Stock moto x is a great phone.
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The design of the Moto X just really appeals to me more than the Nexus 6 did, from what I could tell of the many leaks and teasers. There's something wonderfully different about having a high-tech phone with a visibly wooden back. The Nexus 6 is just another plastic device. As soon as I found out the Nexus was going to be closer to phablet size I knew it wasn't for me. Moto X is a great size for me.
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You do lose quick Android updates (...)
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No, you don't!
Previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S 3 International, originally decided to wait to see what the next Nexus was all about.
Saw that it was a phone for whales, bought Moto X.
Speaking of which, whats this Pure edition stuff people keep mentioning about?

What's next for Nexus 5 users??

Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives. Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be? I suppose it's way too early to know, but just wanted to put my mind at ease because ever since the latest release, I'm really at a loss as to what my next phone purchase will be?
We now have the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, nexus 7, Nexus 9, Nexus 10? Will they refresh the current screen sizes with newer hardware? I really hope so cause screen size is the biggest factor now for me in terms of buying a nexus. If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives. Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be? I suppose it's way too early to know, but just wanted to put my mind at ease because ever since the latest release, I'm really at a loss as to what my next phone purchase will be?
We now have the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, nexus 7, Nexus 9, Nexus 10? Will they refresh the current screen sizes with newer hardware? I really hope so cause screen size is the biggest factor now for me in terms of buying a nexus. If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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If you're looking for your next phone, I HIGHLY recommend the new Moto X. Gorgeous and powerful hardware, stock Android with a few actually useful and innovative additions, and it's sold for a great price. I have both the N5 and Moto X and the X is an upgrade in every way, and IMO is the spiritual successor to the N5.
After not being able to get N6 64gb the last 3 weeks & playing with one at a tmobile store, I've decided its too big! My Nexus5 is still rocken for now. I'll be watching S810 device's announcements at CES Jan. 5, 2015. Maybe a Sony Xperia Z4/Z4 Ultra, M9 or other newly branded devices. Thin frame, stereo front speakers, 5.5 to 5.7 screen, unlockable, etc are my preferences...
rogerchew said:
Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives.
Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be?
If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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Nah. Last year, I wanted at least a 5" 1080p display. Nexus 5 was close enough.
Agreed the NEXUS 6 is too large. Not the display, the entire phone. Anything larger than the LG G3 is too big for a phone, for me.
This year I wanted at least 5.2" 1440p (preferably the size of the LG G2) with Snapdragon 805. As late as mid-August Google was testing a 5.2" 1440p with Snapdragon 805 to be the NEXUS 6. But instead they they stupidly went with the monstrosity, and let Motorola release the 5.2" version as the Moto Maxx/Droid Turbo.
So in getting the Moto Maxx in spite of the silly capacitive buttons.
I'll have to check out the Motorola phones then, but the goal really for me is something smaller than 5 inches, but a "nexus" device for the fast updates.
Yea I'm in the same boat. The N6 is insanely big especially for my hands and there's really nothing that stands out about it besides fast updates. Now that it's nearly twice as much its put itself in a completely new category against the note 4 which literally destroys it in every way besides the front speakers and updates (I also prefer no buttons but since the galaxy phone home buttons are now fingerprint scanners it doesn't seem as bad) and I don't ever use the speaker in the phone besides occasionally showing a friend a YouTube vid or notifications. I'm between a note 4 and just keeping my n5 until s810s start popping up.
all the reviews for the Moto X (2014) cite a mediocre battery life and hit or miss camera results. Those are literally the two things holding back the N5.
Exactly. The Moto X could have been the top phone on the market but they failed on battery and cam. So I'm leaning toward the Droid Turbo, but I'm still not sold on it. The size is tolerable (N5 seems just right. N6 is ridiculous) and battery isn't as good as they claim but still far better than N5. Camera, I'm not sure. Mixed reviews I think.
Is the moto x even an upgrade in any area? The software seems to be what people like. The hardware is basically the same in every day use as a nexus 5 isn't it?
Nexus 6 is too big for hands, that's for sure. No way you're going to one-hand that with a cup of coffee in the other and still slide your metrocard to get on the subway. And forget about getting that thing into your pocket.
Why did they ruin our Nexus? And why are they charging twice as much? I'm actually very sad about all of this. Now I'm stuck with deciding between the Moto X and the Droid Turbo. Sucks.
You know what? I'm just gonna keep my Nexus 5. This phone rocks. Google just sent me a free refurb replacement, and with Lollipop, it feels like I have a brand new phone.
Nexus 5 is still a great smartphone and still a superb buy, even this time next year it still be decent and rocking with whatever latest Android is by then, plus hopefully Google will see sense and go back to a 5" or 5.2" screen & give either HTC or Sony a bash at a Nexus Smartphone, or better still have 2 Nexus Smartphones Phablet and standard to keep everybody happy.
I was very very close to getting a moto x, but after flashing lollipop, my Nexus was like a brand new device and I decided I would stick with it for a bit.
Then I was lucky enough to get an invite for the oneplus the other day and it is expected to arrive this weekend. We will still if that is a worth successor without being too big.
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For now, I'll keep using the Nexus 5, although I initially wanted to buy the Nexus 6.
Unfortunately, the significant price increase (Nex 6 costs about 300 EUR more than a Nex 5 in the German Play Store) forced me to do the decision not to buy it. I primarily need a good developer phone, and 650 EUR for the Nex 6 is just waaaay to much money.
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I'm holding out to see what Samsung and HTC do in the spring. GS6 and M9. Nothing from this year impresses me. Scratch that... Note 4 hardware is impressive, but TouchWiz still kills it, as always.
I'm waiting for project ara.… .
My wife for my nexus 5
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Probably gonna wait for the nexus release next year. Price is way too high for a nexus 6. I'm good with a 5.in fact I bought a used one about a month ago and it's still a very fantastic phone for its price. I'm kicking myself now for not buying it 1year earlier.
absolutely moto X
Z3c
LG G3 with cyanogenmod for the win phone has the right hardware, size, removable battery , now we just need the right ROM. Until then I'll stick to the N5.
I was wanting the Xperia Z3, but ****ing Sony and their DRM removal when you unlock the bootloader... the camera turns to **** and the modem/radio doesn't even work when you unlock the bootloader! I'm watching the Note 4.

Best phone to get next? (Small)

Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:
I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...
I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)
I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.
Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
Thanks!
me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.
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Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..
I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
mario24601 said:
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
vikramkhalsa said:
Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.
Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.
My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.

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