They said the nexus 6 is going yo get WiFi calling in early 2015. Will the moto x get it ? I mean you its running the same 5.0 its only makes sense that it would.
I think that not only will you need 5.0, T-Mobile will need to send out an update. From what I read, T-Mobile will be sending an update out in 2015 for the N6. My guess is Google actually will, but with T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling framework inside. So, that would lead me to believe that T-Mobile will have to want it added to the moto X in order for it to work.
So most likely it won't happen ...
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I think that not only will you need 5.0, T-Mobile will need to send out an update. From what I read, T-Mobile will be sending an update out in 2015 for the N6. My guess is Google actually will, but with T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling framework inside. So, that would lead me to believe that T-Mobile will have to want it added to the moto X in order for it to work.
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Idk how T-Mobile is going to do so, when there is only one SKU for the American n6. Also, Google doesn't want tainted software so I don't think carriers are allowed to mess with the system files Google provides. If T-Mobile can, then that means carriers are in control of ota updates then?
I'm thinking if it does come to the n6, I'm sure we can hack that and make it work on the Moto X since both are very similar in software
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Idk how T-Mobile is going to do so, when there is only one SKU for the American n6. Also, Google doesn't want tainted software so I don't think carriers are allowed to mess with the system files Google provides. If T-Mobile can, then that means carriers are in control of ota updates then?
I'm thinking if it does come to the n6, I'm sure we can hack that and make it work on the Moto X since both are very similar in software
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I sure hope you're right. I was only relaying what T-Mobile said, by pushing out an update. I'd hate for the N6 or our phone turn into the Verizon galaxy nexus.
Any updates on this? Are people with the 2014 Moto X able to use T-Mobile's wifi calling?
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Any updates on this? Are people with the 2014 Moto X able to use T-Mobile's wifi calling?
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No, no Wi-Fi calling.
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No, no Wi-Fi calling.
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Huh, even with Lollipop? I thought Lollipop was supposed to have native wifi calling built into it, that would work with T-Mobile's wifi calling.
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Huh, even with Lollipop? I thought Lollipop was supposed to have native wifi calling built into it, that would work with T-Mobile's wifi calling.
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It is, or at least a future version will. But.... I'm sure T-Mobile will either need to release an app or give Google the code to add it in and who knows if moto will implement that code, if that's the route T-mo/Google goes.
I guess it could be like an APN where we'd need to enter the correct settings, but I just can't see that as it would be too easy for the masses (not like us here who at least know a little bit) to screw it up.
My honest guess, we'll never see it as T-Mobile doesn't sell this phone in stores or online like they do the Nexus 6. That shouldn't matter, but I can see it being an issue of knowledge base and support (even though the damn thing comes with a T-Mobile Sim). I hope I'm wrong as I'd really like to get WiFi calling back, but in not holding my breath.
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It is, or at least a future version will. But.... I'm sure T-Mobile will either need to release an app or give Google the code to add it in and who knows if moto will implement that code, if that's the route T-mo/Google goes.
I guess it could be like an APN where we'd need to enter the correct settings, but I just can't see that as it would be too easy for the masses (not like us here who at least know a little bit) to screw it up.
My honest guess, we'll never see it as T-Mobile doesn't sell this phone in stores or online like they do the Nexus 6. That shouldn't matter, but I can see it being an issue of knowledge base and support (even though the damn thing comes with a T-Mobile Sim). I hope I'm wrong as I'd really like to get WiFi calling back, but in not holding my breath.
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Yeah, I really don't want another phone without wifi calling. But I'm hesitating to get the Nexus 6, because of the size. And of course, T-Mobile still have yet to make good on the promise that wifi calling will be enabled on the Nexus 6.
It just doesn't seem like this should be such a big deal. Apple did it on the iPhones and you don't have to buy the iPhone directly from T-Mobile. And T-Mobile has an interest in getting people onto wifi and off of their cellular network, whenever possible.
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What do you think about the Nexus 5 coming to Verizon
Serious thread
Will update with some sources of speculation as they roll in
Funny read on Nexus 5 rumors on droid-life:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/08/so-many-ridiculous-nexus-5-rumors-today/
According to CNET it will have Verizon support:
http://reviews.cnet.com/google-nexus-5/
Verizon Forums with some thoughts on the Nexus 5:
https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/1004704
It won't come to the useless CDMA carrier. They are happy with their ugly verizon logo branded phones.
VZW is a skank. You should ditch that skank.
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VZW is a skank. You should ditch that skank.
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Swerve, I don't have Verizon....
I want it to happen really bad but I know it probably won't. Verizon will never let Google have the software control they need because CDMA.
I really wish I didn't have unlimited data. Otherwise I'd pick a new carrier.
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If it comes to Verizon their going to screw it up somehow, someway!!:crying:
My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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Naw..you mean JUST like they're doing on the Nexus 7 LTE tablet!?!
I would love to stay with Verizon. They are great at my job plus I get a work discount and I have unlimited data...With that said after the way they have handled recent big phones (like the HTC One) if they don't get the Nexus 5 (which they probably won't) I am out of here.
Yup I dont see it happening at all
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My prediction is it'll come compatible with Verizon's network, but Verizon will refuse to activate it and beat around the bush about why they won't, when they are obviously trying to find a way that they can install bloatware or otherwise screw with the device.
Just look what happened when deb came out.
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Well, a device without Verizon Navigator is not much of a device at all. They are just looking out for their customers and want to give them the best experience that they can.
/sarcasm
I REALLY want it to come to verizon.. The only reason why I'm still with vzw is because its either them, Alltel, or Southern Linc. And as ****ty as it is, vzw is the best of those :/
My gnex is getting old and tired and I would relaly like to replace it with the N5. But time will tell. I'm not very optimistic though...
I know this will be a bit selfish, but I hope it won't come to Verizon. They messed everything up, will remove Google Wallet, add their own bloatwares and giant ugly logos, not to mention 6months late updates, it will give a bad reputation to the Nexus brand.
However what I wouldn't mind is if Google work with Verizon and Sprint to make a CDMA device but with pure and unadulterated Android without the firmware being messed with, although Verizon would not agree to that, they need to put in CarrierIQ and what not.
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I know this will be a bit selfish, but I hope it won't come to Verizon. They messed everything up, will remove Google Wallet, add their own bloatwares and giant ugly logos, not to mention 6months late updates, it will give a bad reputation to the Nexus brand.
However what I wouldn't mind is if Google work with Verizon and Sprint to make a CDMA device but with pure and unadulterated Android without the firmware being messed with, although Verizon would not agree to that, they need to put in CarrierIQ and what not.
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According to leaks....nexus 5 is already compatible with CDMA....at least from what ive read....the issue is that verizon wont let you activate/use it...again from what ive read
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I think that it's compatible with CDMA, just not Verizon's CDMA. Something about it skips over the 800 band in CDMA. If I recall correctly anyways.
Wonder why CNET assume it's coming to Verizon?
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Wonder why CNET assume it's coming to Verizon?
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I wonder why anyone still read or trust CNET.
eksasol said:
I wonder why anyone still read or trust CNET.
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Yeah. The author probably saw cdma bands in the fcc filing and assumed that meant Verizon(not realizing that they were not Verizon bands) . I really doubt that this writer has some inside information about the phone coming to Verizon.
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Screw Verizon and its users. Yes, Verizon has a great network, but NO it's not worth getting raped by them and having to use their locked down hacked phones and over priced plans.
Verizon and AT&T are the big brothers of the cell industry, their mentality of "You will take what we give you and like it." is killing it for consumers. Yeah T-Mobile and Sprint has worse networks, but the more people that move to them will show the giants they can't operate like that.
I would drop Verizon in a heartbeat if I could. Paying for a single line with 1gb of data and it's right at 100 bucks. And that's with my 17% discount through work! But, I can't drop Verizon... It's either them or alltel for my area...
I'm using Motorola Moto X with Verizon Wireless (XT1060) (on unlimited data plan) and Android KitKat 4.4.
I'm having some _MAJOR_ issues with battery( and bluetooth as well. The only reason I didn't update my phone yet is I _REALLY_ need to have WiFi tethering and as far as I understand I cannot update my phone to even 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 as I'll lose root and therefor wifi tethering.
I will definitely try to wait for Dan Rosenberg and/or Justin Case, however as of now as far as I know it's not certain if/when an usable exploit/tool would be released to public, so it's a long shot(
my question is with recent Obama signing bill about "unlocking" cell phones, could that be another way or is it something completely different?
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I'm using Motorola Moto X with Verizon Wireless (XT1060) (on unlimited data plan) and Android KitKat 4.4.
I'm having some _MAJOR_ issues with battery( and bluetooth as well. The only reason I didn't update my phone yet is I _REALLY_ need to have WiFi tethering and as far as I understand I cannot update my phone to even 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 as I'll lose root and therefor wifi tethering.
I will definitely try to wait for Dan Rosenberg and/or Justin Case, however as of now as far as I know it's not certain if/when an usable exploit/tool would be released to public, so it's a long shot(
my question is with recent Obama signing bill about "unlocking" cell phones, could that be another way or is it something completely different?
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This has nothing to do with bootloader unlocking. This is in regards to SIM unlocking, which allows you to take your device to another carrier.
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This has nothing to do with bootloader unlocking. This is in regards to SIM unlocking, which allows you to take your device to another carrier.
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ah, ok.. sorry for stupid question.. i took my phone abroad and it was working, i didn't had to unlock sim or anything like that...
You can take the 4.4.2 OTA and still root with PieTowelRoot, I have a moto x on 4.4.2 right now rooted with it and using the entitlement hack by kryptonite, the set up works nice.
Get a developer edition
For once att isn't the worst carrier I can use Hotspot without any issues on stock 4.4.2. I haven't tried since updating to 4.4.4.
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You can take the 4.4.2 OTA and still root with PieTowelRoot, I have a moto x on 4.4.2 right now rooted with it and using the entitlement hack by kryptonite, the set up works nice.
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the downside for that is i'll lose write protection to /system.
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Get a developer edition
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as much as i like to do that, i don't think there is a point to do that right now, especially as in less than a month new version coming out...
superp32 said:
For once att isn't the worst carrier I can use Hotspot without any issues on stock 4.4.2. I haven't tried since updating to 4.4.4.
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i can use it too, just gotta pay for it and just person next to me i don't wanna) especially 'cause i have unlimited data plan))
i dont have any issues with my batt and im on 4.4 rooted with slap.. I keep the brightness down to a minimum location battery saving mode and I get 3 or 4 hours surfing constantly lot longer than that if I'm just using it periodically. I also have another Moto X its on 4.4.2 rootrd with topie using entitlement hack and I don't see any difference at all in the battery.. or anything else. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan also so I need the hot spot it powers my home internet Netflix everything. you won't lose write if you go to 4.4.2 when rooted with towel pie you can write but your changes are lost if you reboot
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i dont have any issues with my batt and im on 4.4 rooted with slap.. I keep the brightness down to a minimum location battery saving mode and I get 3 or 4 hours surfing constantly lot longer than that if I'm just using it periodically. I also have another Moto X its on 4.4.2 rootrd with topie using entitlement hack and I don't see any difference at all in the battery.. or anything else. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan also so I need the hot spot it powers my home internet Netflix everything. you won't lose write if you go to 4.4.2 when rooted with towel pie you can write but your changes are lost if you reboot
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I don't even get 2 hours of screen time(( I guess its also depends on apps you have installed and usage, before i took OTA update from 4.2.2 I was getting _MUCH_ greater screen time for sure, so I was thinking since there are bugs in 4.4, updating to anything higher would (re)solve at least some of them, but going that route has its own pros and cons.
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I don't even get 2 hours of screen time(( I guess its also depends on apps you have installed and usage, before i took OTA update from 4.2.2 I was getting _MUCH_ greater screen time for sure, so I was thinking since there are bugs in 4.4, updating to anything higher would (re)solve at least some of them, but going that route has its own pros and cons.
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Since you've still got write protection off you can use safestrap to flash newer versions and retain full root, that's what I'm doing!
And I'm getting much more battery life with 4.4.3 (over 4.4.2 at least)
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Since you've still got write protection off you can use safestrap to flash newer versions and retain full root, that's what I'm doing!
And I'm getting much more battery life with 4.4.3 (over 4.4.2 at least)
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Good point!
Yeah, There is actually a 4.4.4 safestrap-compatible ROM "Krypton" in the Development sub-forum.
EDIT @KidJoe : I sent you a PM regarding the post below this one...
a1exus said:
...i took my phone abroad and it was working, i didn't had to unlock sim or anything like that...
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Verizon LTE phones are sim UNlocked out of the box, and considered "global" due to quadband GSM support, and some HSPA support.
superp32 said:
For once att isn't the worst carrier I can use Hotspot without any issues on stock 4.4.2. I haven't tried since updating to 4.4.4.
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Verizon users on a TIERED data plan can tether without hacks or anything. I just eats from their tiered data bucket.
Those still on the old Unlimited data plans have to pay for tethering or hack their phone. Hence rooting being required.
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EDIT @KidJoe : I sent you a PM regarding the post below this one...
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Fixed. Thanks!!
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Verizon LTE phones are sim UNlocked out of the box, and considered "global" due to quadband GSM support, and some HSPA support.
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Since I have a Moto X and Droid Ultra I could pop in a Cricket or Net10 sim and be good to go? Every time I tried to search about only thing I can find is sites to pay for a SIM unlock code.
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Since I have a Moto X and Droid Ultra I could pop in a Cricket or Net10 sim and be good to go? Every time I tried to search about only thing I can find is sites to pay for a SIM unlock code.
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Depends on whose towers Cricket and Net10 use. If they use GSM (like use T-Mobile's towers), then yes.
I can stick my T-Mobile USA sim (my work line used for GS3 and iPhone), into my personal Verizon X since I got it. Some of the firmwares work better than others, some I needed to manually enter APN settings, some I get "SIM is from unknown provider" etc.
With 4.4.4. its been the best and most compatible to date. I haven't had to enter T-Mobile's APN settings on my VZW X, and voice, sms, mms and data work, including HSPA+ and LTE. There is a slight lag of switching from H/H+ to LTE (like after I hang up a phone call), but that is about it.
Keep in mind, the VZW X supports LTE bands 4 and 13. T-Mobile uses 4 and I'm not sure if they use any other bands for LTE.
For HSPA/HSPA+ on T-Mobile, you need to be in areas where T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900mhz from EDGE to HSPA/HSPA+
Now, if you use ATT... EDGE/GPRS/HSPA/HSPA+ will be fine, but LTE will likely not work as ATT uses different bands.
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Since you've still got write protection off you can use safestrap to flash newer versions and retain full root, that's what I'm doing!
And I'm getting much more battery life with 4.4.3 (over 4.4.2 at least)
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as much as I'd like to use that, I really would like to stay on stock rom, and that dev made some customization to rom that i'm not too crazy about it, i really wish there was a rom without any of that customization.. maybe its just me and everyone else wants to have all that customization in
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Depends on whose towers Cricket and Net10 use. If they use GSM (like use T-Mobile's towers), then yes.
I can stick my T-Mobile USA sim (my work line used for GS3 and iPhone), into my personal Verizon X since I got it. Some of the firmwares work better than others, some I needed to manually enter APN settings, some I get "SIM is from unknown provider" etc.
With 4.4.4. its been the best and most compatible to date. I haven't had to enter T-Mobile's APN settings on my VZW X, and voice, sms, mms and data work, including HSPA+ and LTE. There is a slight lag of switching from H/H+ to LTE (like after I hang up a phone call), but that is about it.
Keep in mind, the VZW X supports LTE bands 4 and 13. T-Mobile uses 4 and I'm not sure if they use any other bands for LTE.
For HSPA/HSPA+ on T-Mobile, you need to be in areas where T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900mhz from EDGE to HSPA/HSPA+
Now, if you use ATT... EDGE/GPRS/HSPA/HSPA+ will be fine, but LTE will likely not work as ATT uses different bands.
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I'll be using ATT. If T-Mobile was where I live I'd be all over it. I made up my mind to leave Verizon and I just want to get going. I'm going to try and do the activate, port, and generate new Verizon number thing. I don't want to buy new GSM phones yet. Going to hold out until the new Moto X is released or Moto Maxx. Or Motorola Nexus to buy new phones. My wife won't give up her Droid Ultra at all. The Active Display has her hooked. So I have to wait to see what is coming in September.
I have an old Thundebolt and RAZR HD to activate on my verizon lines right now.
If I pull this off I'll have two unlimited data lines up for exchange for some expresidents
Thank you.
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as much as I'd like to use that, I really would like to stay on stock rom, and that dev made some customization to rom that i'm not too crazy about it, i really wish there was a rom without any of that customization.. maybe its just me and everyone else wants to have all that customization in
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I'll admit these are buried deep, and I don't even think there's one for 4.4.3.
These should be fully stock with the exception that they come rooted.
here's vzw stock 4.4.2: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/116025-romsafestrap-unlockedxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-164552-kitkat-442/
here's vzw stock 4.4.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-rooted-vzw-212-55-26-t2829123
The LG G2 is basically a better Nexus 5. I've been looking at the Nexus 6 (and G3) and honestly the G2 is still pretty fast and does everything I need, plus it has unlocked bootloader exploit which is a huge plus.
The only question is, will we get a stable L rom? Will Verizon give us an update, and how long will it take CM/AOSP?
If Verizon actually gets the Nexus 6, I would seriously consider getting it. I still love my g2 though.
Thanks Devs, from my LG G2
Nope, not happening... 5.9" display is just too big. The G2 with a 5.2" is at about the max I can handle with one hand, and I use my phone almost exclusively one-handed. I actually passed on a OnePlus One because of size, going to the N6 is just too big.
I am hoping the playstore version has VOLTE support so we can avoid the Verizon branded Nexus. As long as the device supports VOLTE we can use it on the VZW network, thanks to the 700mhz specturm that VZW uses for its LTE. I'm sure Verizon will try to find some BS loophole to try to exploit to maintain their control. Back on topic... I definitely get the Nexus 6 as I am Nexus fanboy!
Moto is and has been known for their crappy cameras. Even the new Moto X is crappy especially considering that it is a late 2014 device. The Nexus line is and always has been known for using crappy cameras, even the Nexus 5 took a step back from the G2. Put the two together and I wont touch the Nexus 6.
I am considering going to the n5 to be honest the price will go down and if they release a 6 in phone I feel they will keep the n5 around for a bit.
Finally ready to ditch Verizon and move on to a company that will let me text and call from my house. I was thinking the droid turbo because moto apparently has the best radios but idk
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I am considering going to the n5 to be honest the price will go down and if they release a 6 in phone I feel they will keep the n5 around for a bit.
Finally ready to ditch Verizon and move on to a company that will let me text and call from my house. I was thinking the droid turbo because moto apparently has the best radios but idk
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Google has already stopped making the N5 I believe.
I am also considering the Droid Turbo, it has a huge battery + Moto radios, but they have locked bootloaders.
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I am hoping the playstore version has VOLTE support so we can avoid the Verizon branded Nexus. As long as the device supports VOLTE we can use it on the VZW network, thanks to the 700mhz specturm that VZW uses for its LTE. I'm sure Verizon will try to find some BS loophole to try to exploit to maintain their control. Back on topic... I definitely get the Nexus 6 as I am Nexus fanboy!
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I think they are locking it down via your account. Although I guess anyone could turn it on. For the LG G2 you needed an update and you had to go into your account to turn it on. Doesn't makes sense why you would have to do that, I think its just one more point of control maybe to exclude devices. Maybe that is the loophole in the 700 Mhz block rules.
Maybe they are requiring some kind of special software that the device manufacturer or google will have to implement to get it to work? I think they are going to do anything they can to exclude devices they don't approve.
I'm on Verizon now with a HTC one m7. I'm not upgrading but I will be buying a nexus 6 and switching from Verizon.
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Google has already stopped making the N5 I believe.
I am also considering the Droid Turbo, it has a huge battery + Moto radios, but they have locked bootloaders.
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I have had a few droid phones in the past and they apparently had locked bootloaders but devs usually find a way around it.
If Verizon gets the Nexus 6, it's very likely that it will be my next phone. I have a Nexus 7 (2013) and love it. I think with a Nexus 6, we could possibly get Multi-ROM, which would be amazing. I'd love the ability to test drive new ROMs without going through the whole backup/restore process. I think the only things I might miss would be knock-on (easily fixed with a custom kernel, of course) and the IR blaster. I actually do use it.
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I love the IR blaster and KnockOn. I'm not sure if the Nexus 6 will support the CDMA bands and such. Being limited to just VOLTE 700mhz is sucky. What about 3G and such?
5.9" is too big. I passed on the Note 3 for the G2 because I travel often for work and require being able to comfortably dial/text/email/facebook using one hand while I drive/eat/fiddle with the radio (lol).
I really love my G2 but I fear that all future next gen devices will be ~6.0"
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I love the IR blaster and KnockOn. I'm not sure if the Nexus 6 will support the CDMA bands and such. Being limited to just VOLTE 700mhz is sucky. What about 3G and such?
5.9" is too big. I passed on the Note 3 for the G2 because I travel often for work and require being able to comfortably dial/text/email/facebook using one hand while I drive/eat/fiddle with the radio (lol).
I really love my G2 but I fear that all future next gen devices will be ~6.0"
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I'm pretty sure the play edition N6 won't support CDMA unless Google has changed its stance on the matter. Either we will have Verizon release another "Nexus" device for us that officially will always be behind. Or we will just have to stick with the play edition N6 and anyone that doesn't have LTE in their area is SOL. But as of now Verizon's LTE footprint is supposidly just as large as the 3G/1x footprint so I would imagine there wouldn't be too many issues.
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I think they are locking it down via your account. Although I guess anyone could turn it on. For the LG G2 you needed an update and you had to go into your account to turn it on. Doesn't makes sense why you would have to do that, I think its just one more point of control maybe to exclude devices. Maybe that is the loophole in the 700 Mhz block rules.
Maybe they are requiring some kind of special software that the device manufacturer or google will have to implement to get it to work? I think they are going to do anything they can to exclude devices they don't approve.
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Once you active voice over LTE via the website that is all you have to do. Stock LG roms have the ability to switch voice over LTE on, not too sure if any CM/AOSP based have the ability to do so yet. You don't need the crappy Verizon software the advanced calling 1.0 or whatever to use voice over LTE. I'm pretty sure either it will be enabled by default in future devices as VOLTE becomes more popular.
I just hope it works with lte from metro pcs or other mvno carriers. I'm actually leaving Verizon for this phone.
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Once you active voice over LTE via the website that is all you have to do. Stock LG roms have the ability to switch voice over LTE on, not too sure if any CM/AOSP based have the ability to do so yet. You don't need the crappy Verizon software the advanced calling 1.0 or whatever to use voice over LTE. I'm pretty sure either it will be enabled by default in future devices as VOLTE becomes more popular.
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Cool, which ones? I has on a LG G3 ROM on my G2 but went back to a Verizon Stock -based one to get VoLTE. I would love to go back to the G3 ROM if I was still able to have VoLTE.
I'm not sure if G3 ROMs have it or not. I know xdabbeb's ROM has it and the stock Verizon 25B and 26A have it.
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I'm not sure if G3 ROMs have it or not. I know xdabbeb's ROM has it and the stock Verizon 25B and 26A have it.
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Yes those are Verizon stock ROMs. Not just a LG G2 stock ROM. Verizon had to push a software update to enable VoLTE. They controlled the feature.
I'm pretty sure any ROM can eventually have the option to enable VoLTE. Once activated on the site we very well could be accessing VoLTE without being on Verizon software. I haven't seen much clarification on this, eventually someone will chime in.
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I'm pretty sure any ROM can eventually have the option to enable VoLTE. Once activated on the site we very well could be accessing VoLTE without being on Verizon software. I haven't seen much clarification on this, eventually someone will chime in.
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All I was saying is that right now Verizon holds the keys to the VoLTE kingdom as I see it. They require a change on your account, which I assume shows up no matter what. But the key is the software update that is coming from Verizon. It remains to be seen if manufacturer updates or Nexus Google updates will be able to have the same update, or if there was something unique to Verizon in that update. I wouldn't put it past Verizon to have something special in the update even if it goes against the FCC rules for the LTE spectrum. I would bet that Verizon is going to have to be told they have to allow any LTE device on the network. Look at the Nexus 7 issue, IIRC, if you already had a Sim you could pop it in, but they lagged on getting it "in their system" for it to be put on LTE with a new Sim. Its something that shouldn't even have to be "in a system". You should be able to get a data LTE sim for whatever you want.
I get what you're saying and I agree that Verizon will try to pull some BS. We could very well be using the feature on AOSP/ non vzw ROMs without knowing (doubtful) as long as we enabled the provisioning online. Let's just hope that Verizon doesn't try to pull some stupid bs loophole and let us use any unlocked LTE device that supports the band.
As everyone may know by now, T-Mobile plans to provide wifi calling to the Nexus 6 in early 2015.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t...-to-its-data-strong-network-this-november.htm
My question is if this will only come to T-Mobile purchased Nexus 6 devices or will it be a global update pushed out by Google to allow wifi calling on carriers that provide this service. I would love to go with T-Mobile, but my home does not offer great service on their network. When wifi calling becomes available I'll jump on their network but until then I'll need to stick with either Verizon or AT&T. With that said, could I purchase the phone unlocked through Google Play or through Motorola (financing at 0%) and still use the phone with T-Mobile wifi calling once available?
Thoughts? Any input is appreciated.
There's one variant for the US so yes, you can.
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There's one variant for the US so yes, you can.
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Agreed. I know there's only one model for the US. I'm just not sure how this would work. I guess I don't know enough about wifi calling and the update that needs to be pushed for it to work. I know the only current phones that work with T-Mobile wifi calling are T-Mobile phones. I think I read somewhere it's baked into the kernal, but really not sure.
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Agreed. I know there's only one model for the US. I'm just not sure how this would work. I guess I don't know enough about wifi calling and the update that needs to be pushed for it to work. I know the only current phones that work with T-Mobile wifi calling are T-Mobile phones. I think I read somewhere it's baked into the kernal, but really not sure.
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I mean it's hard to say for certain until the update is pushed, but odds are what will happen is the update will be pushed to everyone with it restricted to working with t-mobile in the update, since the update is going to be from T-Mobile working with Google. I suppose there's hope that it'll support any carrier that will allow it but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
Im assuming it will be the same hardware but with different device IDs for each carrier. This way OTAs will be more easily targeted.
It will be pushed to everyone. The same as a Verizon iPhone will work with t mobile Wi-Fi calling.
I was messing around with an unlocked At&t iPhone 5s I had gotten from my daughter which was supposed to have wifi calling pushed to it with ios 8 on T-mobile. Sorry to say it never happened. I am going to wait on the T-mobile sold phone just to be safe.
I don't see them pushing an update to all the phones for WiFi calling.
The way their current WiFi calling works is with a modified kernel. This means that only T-Mobile branded phones that get their updates from T-Mobile will be able to do WiFi calling. However, if they come up with a way for the Nexus 6 to support WiFi calling, i'm guessing it's going to be another app you'll have to install so that it can forward calls to your dialer. I do NOT think that they will push an update out to all Nexus phones to get this to work on ONE carrier. Since the Nexus 4, ALL of the nexus phones are the same across all carriers. At least in the US, if you buy the Nexus 5 from T-Mobile, you got the same Nexus 5 that you'd get from the Google Play Store. It also seems that they're the same phone for overseas too. The reason i say that is because if you look at the Galaxy Nexus (it had multiple versions; including international versions), it had multiple versions of the software, as you can see here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#takju. Takju and Yakju are both the Galaxy Nexus with different software. They haven't done that since.
I think this will be an app you can install on your phone to make it work with WiFi calling. Maybe Google will be pushing out an update to change the kernel to allow this... maybe... but the carriers will still need to build an app and push the users to download it. The carriers have not been allowed to change the software since the Nexus 4.
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I don't see them pushing an update to all the phones for WiFi calling.
The way their current WiFi calling works is with a modified kernel. This means that only T-Mobile branded phones that get their updates from T-Mobile will be able to do WiFi calling. However, if they come up with a way for the Nexus 6 to support WiFi calling, i'm guessing it's going to be another app you'll have to install so that it can forward calls to your dialer. I do NOT think that they will push an update out to all Nexus phones to get this to work on ONE carrier. Since the Nexus 4, ALL of the nexus phones are the same across all carriers. At least in the US, if you buy the Nexus 5 from T-Mobile, you got the same Nexus 5 that you'd get from the Google Play Store. It also seems that they're the same phone for overseas too. The reason i say that is because if you look at the Galaxy Nexus (it had multiple versions; including international versions), it had multiple versions of the software, as you can see here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#takju. Takju and Yakju are both the Galaxy Nexus with different software. They haven't done that since.
I think this will be an app you can install on your phone to make it work with WiFi calling. Maybe Google will be pushing out an update to change the kernel to allow this... maybe... but the carriers will still need to build an app and push the users to download it. The carriers have not been allowed to change the software since the Nexus 4.
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All nexus 5 phones got the update for sprint spark.
Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?
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Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?
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I haven't come across any issues however I don't use Google Voice or tether (two most common questions). Otherwise, it works just like any other device would.
Does anyone with a Google play device have it show up as non Verizon device on your account.
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Does anyone with a Google play device have it show up as non Verizon device on your account.
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That is exactly what is shown. NON-VZW DEVICE.
Ok so neither moto devices or Google are in the Verizon system.
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Is Google Voice working?
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I got mine from Moto and everything works as fine as any other phone I've ever purchased directly from Verizon. It was as simple as inserting the nano SIM from my old Moto X and I was good-to-go.
I use Google Voice for VM and have had no issues.
I don't pay for the hotspot feature, so that doesn't work until I have root.
Yes, My Verizon shows NON-VZW DEVICE, but it works flawlessly. FWIW Google Play also initially showed "No carrier Nexus 6", but now it says "Verizon Wireless Nexus 6".
I think everything works as far as I know. Tempted to buy from tmobile but don't want Verizon to whitelist or black list or whatever.. I already have a nano sim from the m8 and adapter for,my g3.
But tmobile. Has to activate it first.. I wonder if that would cause any issues?
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I got mine from Moto and everything works as fine as any other phone I've ever purchased directly from Verizon. It was as simple as inserting the nano SIM from my old Moto X and I was good-to-go.
I use Google Voice for VM and have had no issues.
I don't pay for the hotspot feature, so that doesn't work until I have root.
Yes, My Verizon shows NON-VZW DEVICE, but it works flawlessly. FWIW Google Play also initially showed "No carrier Nexus 6", but now it says "Verizon Wireless Nexus 6".
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Hmm but the Motorola one will not show up as Verizon wireless nexus 6. I wonder if later they can disable it. Edit: nevermind that's the actual phone saying that.
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Hmm but the Motorola one will not show up as Verizon wireless nexus 6. I wonder if later they can disable it. Edit: nevermind that's the actual phone saying that.
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I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I agree. The only caveat is if you don't have a nano SIM you have to either cut yours or order one from Verizon on the phone not in store. Then activate using your old phone.
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I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I agree, but we don't have definitive answers on whether VZW white listed all nexus 6 or if only GP and Moto ones
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I agree, but we don't have definitive answers on whether VZW white listed all nexus 6 or if only GP and Moto ones
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Yea. I was worried about this. I want to pull the trigger buying from tmobile but yea because Verizon might pull some whitelisting crap
I haven't found anything that isn't working yet.
Google Voice for calls and VM are working, and Portable Hotspot is fine too. That is on my micro-cut-to-nano SIM card from my S4.
SimonTuffGuy said:
Google Voice for calls and VM are working, and Portable Hotspot is fine too. That is on my micro-cut-to-nano SIM card from my S4.
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Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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Pretty sure you need to root for it to work.
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Pretty sure you need to root for it to work.
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Oh I know that - I was hoping that it wouldn't be disabled out of the box but I was hoping lol
What about the alleged carrier bloat that was supposed to be downloaded upon activation? Havent heard a word on this so I assume it aint true
Nothing came down on mine, but this could also be due to the fact that Verizon doesn't even have the N6 in their system so there may not be anything on there side setup to even push. This could possibly change down the line when Verizon actually starts carrying it.
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Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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My phone is part of my works plan, in which hotspot is a feature. When I clicked on the hotspot option the phone did a "checking for subscription" type warning and then it enabled.
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What about the alleged carrier bloat that was supposed to be downloaded upon activation? Havent heard a word on this so I assume it aint true
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I had an OTA that installed, but no carrier bloat after activation.