I must say I am very impressed with the video quality on the Note 4. The OIS gives video great stability. I have a couple of questions about resolutions/fps and lossless zoom.
1.I heard somewhere that in smooth motion (where it defaults to 1080p) the fps is double that of the note 3 in this mode, ie 120fps. Can anyone confirm this? This would be awesome as unless I'm mistaken we could take 2mp snap shots from the video and these would have an equivalent shutter speed of 1/120 - great for moving objects!
2. Does anyone know how far you can zoom in losslessly in the various resolutions. I've got a feeling it's 1.5x in 1080p but I'm not sure. Would also be interested to know if we can zoom in losslessly at higher resolutions and to what extent. Although shooting in 4k isn't that useful to me, the ability to screenshot 8mp images from any part of the video is a very cool feature.
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Hi,everyone!
Currently I am using the NostromoPop rom on my One Mini 2,along with DSLR camera for taking photos and Cinema FV-5 for video recording. Now,I know the phone is limited by its internal capabilities when it comes to the resolution and framerate it can shoot a video at,but I know for a fact that sometimes you can get more from a camera that the developer intended (I have used a Huawei G510 before,horrible phone but with a lot more roms to choose from,and one of them allowed 720p recording,which wasn't possible on any other rom,including the stock one).
What I'm asking : Is there a camera app(perhaps combined with a kernel or tweak of files) to allow 1080p 60fps video recording on the HTC One Mini 2?
sk8erteo1997 said:
Hi,everyone!
Currently I am using the NostromoPop rom on my One Mini 2,along with DSLR camera for taking photos and Cinema FV-5 for video recording. Now,I know the phone is limited by its internal capabilities when it comes to the resolution and framerate it can shoot a video at,but I know for a fact that sometimes you can get more from a camera that the developer intended (I have used a Huawei G510 before,horrible phone but with a lot more roms to choose from,and one of them allowed 720p recording,which wasn't possible on any other rom,including the stock one).
What I'm asking : Is there a camera app(perhaps combined with a kernel or tweak of files) to allow 1080p 60fps video recording on the HTC One Mini 2?
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Not sure what you asking since HTC One Mini 2 already records at 1080.
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Main Camera: 13MP, BSI sensor, f/2.2, 1080p video recording
Front Camera: 5MP, BSI sensor, 1080p video recording
kativiti said:
Not sure what you asking since HTC One Mini 2 already records at 1080.
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Main Camera: 13MP, BSI sensor, f/2.2, 1080p video recording
Front Camera: 5MP, BSI sensor, 1080p video recording
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Ummm...not trying to be mean or anything,but you should learn to read better before voicing an opinion,not just between the lines. What I asked was if it was possible to shoot at 1080p 60fps on the One Mini 2.
Have a nice day!
sk8erteo1997 said:
Ummm...not trying to be mean or anything,but you should learn to read better before voicing an opinion,not just between the lines. What I asked was if it was possible to shoot at 1080p 60fps on the One Mini 2.
Have a nice day!
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you right...
it records 1080p at 30fps
and 720p at 60fps
On the S9+, you can use optical zoom while recording video. It seems to be that this is not the case with the P20 pro for some reason, which would be a deal breaker for me.
Can someone confirm?
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The youtube camera comparison vids from SupaSaf suggest that there is no optical zoom button in Video Capture Mode like on the S9 but you can pinch to zoom (it's just not known whether this is optical or digital but suggests digital to me).
Optical zoom is there. Just no button. Have to use fingers.
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The youtube camera comparison vids from SupaSaf suggest that there is no optical zoom button in Video Capture Mode like on the S9 but you can pinch to zoom (it's just not known whether this is optical or digital but suggests digital to me).
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Optical zoom is there. Just no button. Have to use fingers.
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I just watched the SuperSaf video and it does seem like digital. Is there any confirmation it's actually optical zoom?
Bump, anyone who received it can confirm?
You can zoom. It's digital zoom as far as I can tell
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You can zoom. It's digital zoom as far as I can tell
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That’s disappointing. I’m contemplating just cancelling my order and going back to my S9+. I loved everything about it but the very, very mediocre battery life. But the P20 pro which seemed great with the camera at first now seems to have some major drawbacks (no stabilization at 4K, no 4k60 recording, pictures looking soft, no way to enable beauty mode, etc.). What a shame.
Sorry to exhume this thread, but I'm interested in the topic. I can see why the 5x hybrid zoom might be too taxing for video, but it would be extremely disappointing for the phone to contain a 3x telephoto lens and not contain a 3x optical zoom.
YouTube has a couple new videos, but I'm not sure how to interpret. This one shows digital zoom that strikes me as very disappointing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DOobLhcCqU
This one, on the other hand, to my eye, looks more like optical zoom. It's tough to judge the quality in portrait mode on YouTube, but it looks better than digital zoom to me:
https://youtu.be/mJJw8lLJF8I?t=207
Anyone have any thoughts on this or new experiences with the phone in the last couple of weeks?
Thanks in advance!
Please see:
youtube.com/watch?v=XwstKlJFCoc
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Please see:
youtube.com/watch?v=XwstKlJFCoc
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Thanks, that was a great video.
Fwiw, I ended up buying it. So long as you take video in 30fps, you get what looks to be sharp, optical zoom. If you film in 1080p60, however, you get a hot mess of digital zoom. The attached shows a frame capture of 1080p30 (pretty sharp) next to 1080p60 (blurry mess). 4K30 looks much like 1080p30 but appears not to zoom in quite as far.
3x video definitely uses optical zoom. You can compare 3x vs 2.7x frame quality.
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3x video definitely uses optical zoom. You can compare 3x vs 2.7x frame quality.
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Thx a lot but 5x doesent have hybrid zoom?
Mmmm, I'm not sure, but I think so.
Pic 1: 4,8x
Pic 2: 5x
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Mmmm, I'm not sure, but I think so.
Pic 1: 4,8x
Pic 2: 5x
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Interesting! Fwiw, my screenshots were both taken at 10x to maximize distortion so I assume there was some optical/hybrid as well as digital zoom occurring on the 30fps sample and pure digital on the 60fps sample
I tried to make a video in indoor light in 4K and 1080, 60 FPS, is there a reason why 4K is much less noisy? I did not think that resolution decides how much noise is there.
4K provides you with almost 4 times the resolution of 1080P thus you will most certainly see a difference in clarity.
In running a quick test, at 1080P on the default camera app, it captures the video at a bit rate of 20.0Mbits per second.
In contrast, at 4K @ 30FPS, it captures the video at 41.9Mbits per second.
So the capture size versus the bit rate is certainly going to play a deciding factor.
But there are other ways to achieve an optimal capture rate @ 1080P.
If Xiaomi gave us the ability to utilize the High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) and dictate our own bitrate, you'd see better capture rates @1080P.
My only other suggestion would be to seek out a third-party camera application (GCAM perhaps?) and test further.
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4K provides you with almost 4 times the resolution of 1080P thus you will most certainly see a difference in clarity.
In running a quick test, at 1080P on the default camera app, it captures the video at a bit rate of 20.0Mbits per second.
In contrast, at 4K @ 30FPS, it captures the video at 41.9Mbits per second.
So the capture size versus the bit rate is certainly going to play a deciding factor.
But there are other ways to achieve an optimal capture rate @ 1080P.
If Xiaomi gave us the ability to utilize the High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) and dictate our own bitrate, you'd see better capture rates @1080P.
My only other suggestion would be to seek out a third-party camera application (GCAM perhaps?) and test further.
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Is there an app that supports [email protected]? There is no point in recording videos [email protected] if there is 4K, but I like the idea of 60FPS.
Hi,
I noticed the bit rate in video recording on the S21 ultra is significantly lower than the competition's and I think this is why the video doesn't look as sharp (because the photos are better than that of the same competitors). Is there anyway to make it record at higher bit rate to get properly good results?
It seems like Samsung artificially decreases the quality of the video for some unknown reason. Do you think there is a chance Samsung will fix it in future update?
Thanks
yes you should use 3rd party software like FilmicPro & mcpro24fps
I will give it a try, but usually the HDR capabilities of 3rd party apps are not as good, as well as stabilization.
Filmic Pro also still doesn't support 10bit or [email protected]
Is there a way to get rid of the oversharpened look of videos in the main app?
it supports both , you cant control anything in stock apps
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I will give it a try, but usually the HDR capabilities of 3rd party apps are not as good, as well as stabilization.
Filmic Pro also still doesn't support 10bit or [email protected]
Is there a way to get rid of the oversharpened look of videos in the main app?
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Since the last 1 or 2 updates it now supports both.
Stabilization seems quite bad, though. Edit: This due to the stabilization being turned off, probably....
The FilmicPro is really underwhelming in low light:
Wagnerian said:
Stabilization seems quite bad, though. Edit: This due to the stabilization being turned off, probably....
The FilmicPro is really underwhelming in low light:
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Why does filmic fail to impress you? It is significantly better if you look at it from a more experienced perspective. Original is overbrightenned and denoised to a hurtful point so it looks blurry almost.
The filmic one is more realistic and much sharper. The noise is easy to remove in post.
Plus filmic has plenty of quality and denoise settings which could be turned on and off and adjusted. We don't know what the Korean guy in the video has for his settings in Filmic.
it supports only OIS though which makes 4k60 as shaky as it was on Mi 8 back in the day, so you need gimbal or something of sorts, + one thing it doesn't sort is 2x less detail compared to 4k30, i get higher detail with Filmic on 4k60 with S20 Ultra with a generation older sensor than what i get with S21 Ultra so i avoid using 4k60 completely on that phone
This question arised from the fact that I noticed something strange when selecting FHD 30 FPS mode. It seems that the video is grainy but it is very sharp. However, when selecting UHD 30FPS, the video becomes blurry and smudged, allmost like it's being upscaled. I have uploaded here a screen recording from Filmic but this also happens in the stock camera aswell. Also, does anyone know of an app that can enable me to record in UHD but keep that FHD sharpness? I don't mind the grain as long as it is sharp.
Taking a video in the night and waiting for a sharp image... LOL
Of course no device can record a sharp video without light... basic photo/video knowledge
Why does FHD look sharper than UHD then?