I am thinking about getting the Moto X. I was wondering, if I use 3d Launcher, will I loose the benefits of Goolge now everywhere? Meaning, I would to use 3d launcher and still be able to say 'okay google' from the lock screen and have it google now respond.
dman777 said:
I am thinking about getting the Moto X. I was wondering, if I use 3d Launcher, will I loose the benefits of Goolge now everywhere? Meaning, I would to use 3d launcher and still be able to say 'okay google' from the lock screen and have it google now respond.
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Touchless isnt tied to a launcher.. I use apex launcher for example and in the past have also used adw
Yes, moto X has it's own touchless control program. (always listening) It's not tied to the Google Now app. So you can use any Launcher you'd like.
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Which do you guys use or prefer?
Would using the GEL effectt any of the motos features or effect battery any?
None of the above, Nova Launcher.
Moto's features? No.
Battery? Possibly, but probably not.
knitler said:
Which do you guys use or prefer?
Would using the GEL effectt any of the motos features or effect battery any?
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I use the Google Now Launcher with Xposed GEL Settings. Makes it decently customizable. Doesn't really affect battery life as opposed to the stock launcher. As for the Moto features, all phones with touchless controls are blocked from using the in-app "Ok Google" hotword, therefore we are not able to access the "Ok Google" or "Ok Google Everywhere" feature. There are workarounds for this such as Unleash The Google which debugs Google Search settings but all the debug flags have been renamed so its hard to tell what you need to fix, its possible though. When I did have Ok Google Everywhere enabled on my phone it greatly interfered with touchless controls making it near unusable. So instead I went the Xposed route and now use Ok Google Hotword for Third Party Activities which allows you to pick and choose which apps can activate a search using the hotword (that fixed the problem entirely). Using the built in hotword from search is a lot faster than touchless controls, but it is also nice to use touchless when you are away from the phone. If you use the procedures I just described above you can have both (have your cake and eat it too). I also see you have a DE so this shouldn't be out of your reach if this sounds like something you'd want to do. Cheers.
I've been using the GEL since it first became sideload-available. It's just as smooth as stock and looks the same, only it has larger icon sizes on the home screen. Stoked the new Moto X will be running GEL as it's stock launcher out of the box.
Is it persistent? Its annoying as heck to have it there permanently.
Use a different launcher. Nova is very popular.
Nova is a good launcher. Been using Action Launcher and both allow you to customize your launcher experience beyond what stock does.
So the answer is no without getting a launcher
No, the answer is yes, you just have to use a different launcher. People give you the answer to your question, but you respond rudely. Nova launcher can be just as close to AOSP as the stock launcher, or you can trick it out to your heart's content. It's just as reliable, and faster than the stock launcher. Absolutely zero drawbacks to using a custom launcher at all, plus you can easily hide the apps you were complaining about in your other thread.
You have an awesome phone, with an incredibly customizable OS, not you've just got to take full advantage of it, and have fun.
With root there is an exposed module for the GEL that lets you do all kind of things including remove the search bar. Google wants to mine data and it cant mine data when you go to some other internet based source and skip their search engine. For this reason and because they are becoming increasingly aggressive in their data mining efforts they have made the search bar fixed, force it onto every page, and it cannot be removed, all in the hopes that you will use it rather than an alternative source.
Probably works in the grand scheme from their point of view but all it did for me is make me dislike them and their increasingly overbearing behavior. And of course change to a different launcher which I would have done anyways since there are so many that do it better but thats beside the point. I shouldn't have to change launchers just to avoid having the corporate boy wonders waste a part of every single screen with a widget I don't use.
If you don't want to use another launcher and you don't plan on ever using Google Search, just disable it. The widget will be removed.
It's 'persistent' for a reason, try using it, maybe then you'll realize how great it is having it there.
Ever turn your phone on to go hit chrome and type something in? Try turning on your phone screen, say, "okay google, (pause for a second) what are the showtimes for Interstellar."
Or if you want to search for something without speaking, just tap the google search bar, it's quite useful once you use it. And it's there when you need it, not obtrusive in any way with the cards and notifications.
Alternatively if you don't like any of those suggestions....a different launcher.
you can remove the widget but then it would be removed from all the screens as well.
I switched to galaxy launcher which is a bit buggy but i used to use nova which was very good.
Ironkidz said:
Is it persistent? Its annoying as heck to have it there permanently.
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Yes, disable google search service.
gordonzhao said:
It's 'persistent' for a reason, try using it, maybe then you'll realize how great it is having it there.
Ever turn your phone on to go hit chrome and type something in? Try turning on your phone screen, say, "okay google, (pause for a second) what are the showtimes for Interstellar."
Or if you want to search for something without speaking, just tap the google search bar, it's quite useful once you use it. And it's there when you need it, not obtrusive in any way with the cards and notifications.
Alternatively if you don't like any of those suggestions....a different launcher.
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There is nothing particularly great about being forced to have it on every screen since you can have all those features without the search bar on any screen or if you wish only the screens you want it and and where you want it located. This of course if you are rooted and use the exposed module for GEL. Ok Google can then work on every screen and without requiring the search bar, assuming of course you want it that way. When you think about it who exactly would want to start a voice search by swiping over 5 screens to tap the same search bar that was on every screen before it? Or to swipe over 5 screens to say ok Google when they could have done that from their home screen and every screen before it or simply swiped left to the google now screen? At any rate it should have been an option you can use or not at your discretion but Uncle Goog is getting downright overbearing about their data mining. They didn't have to make it they way they did as the exposed module shows, they did it because they are becoming a bunch of Richards who cant ever be rich enough.
With the latest update, there is now a fix for removing the Google Search bar without disabling anything.
Long touch the home screen.
Touch Settings.
Touch Goolge Search to turn it off.
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There is nothing particularly great about being forced to have it on every screen since you can have all those features without the search bar on any screen or if you wish only the screens you want it and and where you want it located. This of course if you are rooted and use the exposed module for GEL. Ok Google can then work on every screen and without requiring the search bar, assuming of course you want it that way. When you think about it who exactly would want to start a voice search by swiping over 5 screens to tap the same search bar that was on every screen before it? Or to swipe over 5 screens to say ok Google when they could have done that from their home screen and every screen before it or simply swiped left to the google now screen? At any rate it should have been an option you can use or not at your discretion but Uncle Goog is getting downright overbearing about their data mining. They didn't have to make it they way they did as the exposed module shows, they did it because they are becoming a bunch of Richards who cant ever be rich enough.
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With the latest OTA you can long press on the background and select settings to turn it off.
Glad to hear it, I wouldn't use the stock launcher anyways but it's a bonus for those who do.
It removes it, but doesn't give up that screen space real estate to use for anything else. Kind of stupid. Until they fix that, I'll just leave it there.
So I just got my MotoX 2014, coming from a MotoX 2013 I'm used to using the Google Now widget on one of my home screens. The new phone has the full google now card list "preinstalled" on one of the screens and I can't find a way to get rid of it. This is purely a cosmetic problem for me, I prefer the smaller widget display and I want it to appear on a different screen but I can't seem to move the cards page and/or disable it. Is this just a Lollipop thing and I'm stuck with it or am I missing a setting somewhere?
From desktop, go to Settings, then Now Cards, and turn them off - or, get another launcher
I saw that but it then gives me a warning that it will turn off Google Now completely. Is that really what I want to happen?
So I gave it a try. I turned off Now Cards which did get rid of the "full list". I then added the Google Now widget to my screen and had to turn cards back on in order for it to display anything. As soon as I did the full display reappeared on the left most home screen again. Must be baked into Lollipop so I guess I'm stuck with it.
Or you can try a different launcher as geekabilly said. Look at Nova Launcher in the play store. It isn't baked into Lollipop. That specific screen to swipe to is part of Google Now Launcher.
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Or you can try a different launcher as geekabilly said. Look at Nova Launcher in the play store. It isn't baked into Lollipop. That specific screen to swipe to is part of Google Now Launcher.
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I hadn't considered that it was part of the launcher (duh on my part). I was so content with the launcher on my MX13 that I never had to change it. I'll have to see if I can get used to this one. I actually have Nova on my tablet so I'll keep it in mind.
I read several days ago about how the pixel 4/4xl already allows third party launchers to use the native gestures.
I also read that you need to have gestures enabled in order to utilize the new google assistant.
My question is has anyone that has received their new pixel used nova launcher (my all-time fave), enabled native gestures and was able to utilize the new google assistant?
My new 4xl is on a truck for delivery today and I'm pretty excited.
I'm coming from the 3xl so I know it's not a huge upgrade, but I think there's enough to make me happy with the decision.
TIA
It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
Well, that's disappointing.
I'm certainly not interested in a third party gestures app in addition to a third party launcher.
Hopefully nova can update their app so I can use the native gestures while utilizing the new google assistant.
The new assistant is supposed to be awesome, so if nova can't do it right now, I'll be forced to stick with the pixel launcher, which would also be a little disappointing but would be necessary as I value the new assistant more at this point.
Thanks for the response.
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It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
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Yeah ideally I'd rather not have to install additional programs if I can avoid it, but there was a notice within the Nova Launcher app saying it's beyond their control.
Anyway, maybe things might change when you receive your phone so no harm trying out for yourself. At least the stock launcher is still pretty decent.
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It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
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Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
So, have you actually done this and, more importantly, does the new assistant work with nova as your launcher?
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Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
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bkrickles said:
So, have you actually done this and, more importantly, does the new assistant work with nova as your launcher?
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Yes, using nova and gestures and assistant works perfectly
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Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
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Hmm...I stand corrected. Not sure why it didn't work when I tried earlier even though I specified Nova as my default, but thanks!
Thanks.
I know I did a duplicate post in the 4 and 4xl forums and appreciate the quick responses.
This is great news and I had not seen this particular question asked anywhere.
Good luck to all!
spaceman860 said:
Yes, using nova and gestures and assistant works perfectly
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I tried to use Nova with the new gestures on my Pixel 3 but Nova said that they can't support the new gestures due to Google not making it compatible with 3rd party launchers. Didn't try it on my pixel 4.
Maybe I missed something, how did you get it to work?
I switched to Nova as default and it worked fine. However, the smooth new app animations do not work or look like the pixel launcher animations. System animation in Nova is just the slide.
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I tried to use Nova with the new gestures on my Pixel 3 but Nova said that they can't support the new gestures due to Google not making it compatible with 3rd party launchers. Didn't try it on my pixel 4.
Maybe I missed something, how did you get it to work?
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I had to set it to 3 button navigation, hit home and set nova the default launcher, then re-enable gesture nav. But it is working perfectly for me.
I'm using Nova and the gestures are working fine.
Only thing is can't get rid of the line on the bottom of the home page.
Nova and Action launcher both work fine for me on P4XL
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Nova and Action launcher both work fine for me on P4XL
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Have you had any issues at all with Action Launcher? I tried using it and certain apps seemed to get stuck. It was very weird, like the app screen got set as the home screen - I could long press on the app screen and make home screen things happen. But I never could get back to actual home screen. I had to reboot.
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Have you had any issues at all with Action Launcher? I tried using it and certain apps seemed to get stuck. It was very weird, like the app screen got set as the home screen - I could long press on the app screen and make home screen things happen. But I never could get back to actual home screen. I had to reboot.
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I did not notice this, but I'm currently using Nova. I do know that you need to actually set the launcher as your default through the settings menu rather than through the launcher. That's the only way I could get it to reliably work.
Is anyone experiencing an issue where the default home launcher reverts to One Ui for no reason?
Also google discover being inconsistent in third party launchers?
mtm1401 said:
Is anyone experiencing an issue where the default home launcher reverts to One Ui for no reason?
Also google discover being inconsistent in third party launchers?
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Yep. Mine would even switch back after setting my default launcher to my custom one... But with that said, I also had so many other problems with every custom launcher that I had tried....so I just stuck with the stock, OneUI launcher (and I love Google News, so that's a good thing for me lol).
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Yep. Mine would even switch back after setting my default launcher to my custom one... But with that said, I also had so many other problems with every custom launcher that I had tried....so I just stuck with the stock, OneUI launcher (and I love Google News, so that's a good thing for me lol).
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Yea I really like Google discover, but hate the sideways scrolling on One UI menu. Currently my work around is Nova with a button for google
mtm1401 said:
Yea I really like Google discover, but hate the sideways scrolling on One UI menu. Currently my work around is Nova with a button for google
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Ahh, gotcha. But wait, doesn't just about every launcher scroll sideways between pages and then allow you to swipe up to view all apps?
NippleSauce said:
Ahh, gotcha. But wait, doesn't just about every launcher scroll sideways between pages and then allow you to swipe up to view all apps?
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Yea but they all either a) keep reverting to One UI for no reason, or the discover page stops working until you restart the phone
I have issue too.
I have been update to 12.1.01.15 by using samsung app stroe,
and when I want add remove home page/widget by using gestures,
it always got crash with out any error message,
because of this situation,
I had reset my phone to factory to rule out other factor, but it still no work