Hi guys,
Is there any chance of seeing Android 5.0 lollipop on this device.
Sorry if this is a repost.
Thank you
Noooooope.
Can any of the developers to port the art to any of our phone? Because this time is with full features and well optimised. It would increase stability more than it is in this moment . I would to like to see that effort that it would be made for this thing to be possible. Everything is possible if you really want
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Android 5.0 Lollipop from Team Canjica probably will never see the light. In our opinion, Galaxy S Advance and in generally STE-based devices are too weak to handle well another Android major release.
The fact is that more time passes, more OS and applications become heavier and complex.
Was a pain to get a "stable" (between quotes since still has some issues like huge battery drain, that can't be fixed) Kitkat.
Another major release means heavier, more complex, CPU even with OC is too slow to handle and execute well threads, RAM memory is too little and this means lags, impossibility to run big apps and the Mali 400 single core GPU is too weak for more complex graphic effects in games that will come and especially in transitions between menus, pull down status bar etc. The last perfect major release for this device is Jelly Bean 4.3, to build any major release means that we need to research and find (with A LOT OF TESTING) how to fix bugs, means that we need to develop new OMX patches to make camera and videos working. KitKat is okay but huge battery drain and a lot of lags are signal that it's the last major release that these STE devices can handle in a non-stable way against JB 4.3 that it's almost (to not say "totally") stable. Now, stop a moment and imagine Lollipop, totally ruined user experience. Do you wanna live together with device lagging 99/100 times (1/100 without lags rightly after power on, maybe) and with charger always connected? We should be lords of our devices, not slaves. Nobody of us still uses a STE device and without is totally impossible to develop what has never been developed, if you want to keep updated I'm sure that you would change device asap, today even a 100€ device is more powerful than these. Janice will be 3 years old on April 2015, it's just the future coming...
We loved this device, development, known good guys here... Officially this device died on 4.1, Team Canjica gave you 3 major releases!!!
Never forget
@diego-ch @frapeti @Paul L @Rox do you agree with me?
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Completely !
@AntaresOne @Rox
Thats sad and brutal true.
O our device is not a tytan of performance .
But still (IF u look and test all CM builds (starting form CM 10) u will see that CM 11 is the most stable.
On jellybean roms (CM based) there are bugs that were fixed in KITKAT.
As AntaresOne told our device is anable (propably) to boot android 5.0/CM 12 . But whats the point od having phone thats compleatly out of RAM and need charger after 5 hours in deepsleep ?
But still having bootnable lolipop will be interesting (for testing).
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MikiGry said:
@AntaresOne @Rox
Thats sad and brutal true.
O our device is not a tytan of performance .
But still (IF u look and test all CM builds (starting form CM 10) u will see that CM 11 is the most stable.
On jellybean roms (CM based) there are bugs that were fixed in KITKAT.
As AntaresOne told our device is anable (propably) to boot android 5.0/CM 12 . But whats the point od having phone thats compleatly out of RAM and need charger after 5 hours in deepsleep ?
But still having bootnable lolipop will be interesting (for testing).
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What I meant is yes, KK ROMs are stable about bugs (except huge battery drain), but in the performance profile? They're very fast but just some minutes and will start to lag...
Galaxy S Advance may surely boot Lollipop, but can't handle well!
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And fix 4.3 bugs?
Will be awesome, Rox did it for codina and work so good.
I think it'd be awesome to get on stable build of cm10.1 since so many say it is fast with good battery life. Personally I haven't tried it due to the remaining bugs.
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@[mention]AntaresOne[/mention], yep agreed.
AntaresOne said:
NOTE FOR EVERYBODY
Copy & paste this answer in any thread like this.
Android 5.0 Lollipop from Team Canjica probably will never see the light. In our opinion, Galaxy S Advance and in generally STE-based devices are too weak to handle well another Android major release.
The fact is that more time passes, more OS and applications become heavier and complex.
Was a pain to get a "stable" (between quotes since still has some issues like huge battery drain, that can't be fixed) Kitkat.
Another major release means heavier, more complex, CPU even with OC is too slow to handle and execute well threads, RAM memory is too little and this means lags, impossibility to run big apps and the Mali 400 single core GPU is too weak for more complex graphic effects in games that will come and especially in transitions between menus, pull down status bar etc. The last perfect major release for this device is Jelly Bean 4.3, to build any major release means that we need to research and find (with A LOT OF TESTING) how to fix bugs, means that we need to develop new OMX patches to make camera and videos working. KitKat is okay but huge battery drain and a lot of lags are signal that it's the last major release that these STE devices can handle in a non-stable way against JB 4.3 that it's almost (to not say "totally") stable. Now, stop a moment and imagine Lollipop, totally ruined user experience. Do you wanna live together with device lagging 99/100 times (1/100 without lags rightly after power on, maybe) and with charger always connected? We should be lords of our devices, not slaves. Nobody of us still uses a STE device and without is totally impossible to develop what has never been developed, if you want to keep updated I'm sure that you would change device asap, today even a 100€ device is more powerful than these. Janice will be 3 years old on April 2015, it's just the future coming...
We loved this device, development, known good guys here... Officially this device died on 4.1, Team Canjica gave you 3 major releases!!!
Never forget
@diego-ch @frapeti @Paul L @Rox do you agree with me?
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S3 Mini also STE device but slightly better in ram, New Maclaw already did with android 5.0 .
So I think SGSA will still have the chance, pls DON'T cut off the development for SGSA.
Refer Link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-android-source-project-5-0-20141106-t2930961
Why can't it be possible? when htc explorer can get it?
if low end devices like htc explorer have got it.. why can't it be possible for Samsung Galaxy S Advance? which is way better than HTC Explorer?
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if low end devices like htc explorer have got it.. why can't it be possible for Samsung Galaxy S Advance? which is way better than HTC Explorer?
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The source is on github if anyone wants to do it...
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The source is on github if anyone wants to do it...
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I can't believe finally our s advance will not receive android lollipop; i must agree, why there are some older and less performant device which receive cyanogenmode 12????i think s advance still has. Some potential,( although his age); it was (and still) my first android phone, i think it is a great phone ...it will remain forever in my mind... I just remeber when yuo develop cyanogen mode 11 android kitkat ,and i flash it, ....you did a miracle! Actually i still use it, no bug(just a little sometimes), no lags, work very fine, so let the miracle repeat!
I think the fault was of samsung tha wasn't clement with this device (samsung suck).., they release a very awfull upgrade , very very bad, a lot of bug, at the time, it lag also to reproduce video, on browser web...it was unusable, so thi was the reason why i installed cyanogen mode; so i hope, you will hear our prayers...let the miracle repeat again!!!
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if low end devices like htc explorer have got it.. why can't it be possible for Samsung Galaxy S Advance? which is way better than HTC Explorer?
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however we can get LOLLIPOP in market and store, but we hope S Advance can taste it !!!
Gentlemans, the latest cm11 from novafusion: http://novafusion.pl/downloads/
The team working on 5.0.
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Gentlemans, the latest cm11 from novafusion: http://novafusion.pl/downloads/
The team working on 5.0.
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Zombies, novafusion = fake changelogs / fake updates.
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Zombies, novafusion = fake changelogs / fake updates.
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But they are working on it
kilroy69 said:
But they are working on it
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Zombies, novafusion = fake changelogs / fake updates.
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ZombiePopFusion_5.0.1_Stablev1_Janice for ex [emoji12]
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I want this hardware with cm or pure aosp software, and I'd love it if you all could share some of your knowledge:
What are the challenges, obstacles, and chances of cm on this device happening?
I don't know much about Sony and their way of locking or unlocking the bootloader, so what can we expect here?
Codeworkx praise Sony for their recent contribution to the community, can we expect this to continue?
Are there any new proprietary additions to this phone compared to the other xperia line, something new that will prevent cm running smoothly?
How are the free xperia team going with their work?
Please share and enlighten me.
Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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http://freexperiaproject.com/
dioggo92 said:
Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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Cool, but have they succeed with proper ports of cm to xperia, no battery issues, no camera issues, all hardware working properly?
The z has the new "dual camera thingy" (i can't remember what the press release called it) for proper hdr, and considering this is a somewhat new invention, will Sony give out proprietary sources/drivers to create open source versions?
CyanogenMod went well for my arc S, and is coming alon great for my Xperia T.
I can't imagine why the XZ will be any worse.
I think it will actually be better as the XZ will be released on 4.1, with the promise of 4.2 coming soon after.
I can't see poor development being an issue with this device.
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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So exciting! really looking forward!
cant wait to see this phone..also cant wait to see stock Android on this.
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Codeworkx is different from Fxp. Anywho Fxp has listed z in its supported devices now on its website so yeah i think you can count them in.
It'll depend on codeworkx if he wants to join Fxp or not. I don't have the Xperia t so can't be sure about what you asked. I'll check the thread out and let you know.
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Oh my version! Well this new group popped up they made cm10.1 for Xperia S can't be used as a daily driver as of now was just testing it they launched it about a week ago still fixing it up . Other than that i am running cm10.
As far as your questions go Sony supports developers! If you want to get cm on your device don't get it from a carrier! Get it unlocked like me unlock the bootloader and start flashing!
Xperia z shares many similarities in hardware with the nexus 4 so I'm guessing that would mean faster development. The only issue I can think of is camera since its a Sony proprietary! Like with the Xperia S. Had to wait till Fxp got a hold of a leaked beta jb driver. Still doesn't support 1080p video. But it works! On the other hand xperia T has full camera I think and cm10.1 is being worked on.
Bottom line you won't get it asap but you'll get it! Cause here is the thing Sony supports developers and stuff but mostly people go out get a Samsung or htc. Maybe that's why development is a bit slow paced.
If I were you I'd wait a month maybe? Just to see how things go over here in the development forum.
Keep visiting xperiablog.com (everything related to xperias)
And also http://freexperiaproject.com
You'll get an idea of how it's going.
Or you could get it play with the stock Sony rom! Till development kicks in Ps you'll fall in love with the media apps I'm telling you!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099499 (here's the rom I'm running right now)
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AW: [Q] CyanogenMod on the z?
For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Bin4ry, perhaps you can share some thoughts on cm on this device: Proprietary camera sensor.., battery workings, bootloader and customization, what to expect..?
Support is one thing, working rom is another. Are there any major issues to be expected, or do you reckon this will be smooth sailing? Also, how are the other sony/xperia devices running with cm now? Any big issues?
Thanks mate
I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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I covered this a few weeks ago on Google+, but mainly:
A decision was made to "pull an aries" with CM10.1. That means rebasing as much as possible onto the Mako kernel base, just like the Galaxy S (aries) family device maintainers rebased onto the Nexus S kernel base.
The bad: In the short run, when the effort is underway, the device will appear to be behind others.
The good: Once the effort is complete, it should be MUCH easier to keep the device up to date. See the original Galaxy S (aries) family of devices. You know, "the device that just won't die".
There was a pretty big influx of new developers to the platform a month ago, and some of us are still getting up to speed and learning things. For example, I've been focusing on what could best be described as "polishing" on CM10... Taking those little minor annoyances and squashing them. I'll transition over to 10.1 when I'm done. It's kind of nice that I can actually do something like this... Instead of fighting generic platform brokenness all over, I'm working on polishing up a few very minor annoyances. Seriously, my list of things to work on is "broken scaling of anamorphic videos over HDMI"... That's a lot better than "HDMI no worky" on Samsung Exynos devices.
Bin4ry said:
For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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As I understand it, the FXP builds will sometimes contain things that have yet to be merged into the main CM baseline via Gerrit.
For those coming from Samsung devices that codeworkx or I or any of the other CM people have worked on - Think of it as the difference between nightlies and the occasional experimental "test build" from maintainers. With the main difference being that FXP builds are always built each week whether or not there might actually be a difference.
(Correct me if I'm wrong here please.)
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Exactly, with key lime pie coming up, all we can do is wait
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I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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I'm also absolutely sure it will be smooth as nexus 4
after 3 weeks
We have everything working,... according to changelog...backlight is ok now, even the FMRadio is working now...
So Can we expect made working the last thing - CAMERA ?:victory::good:
PS: i know this is "headshot" question...but i would like to know whether there is some problem and there will be NO camera...or if i just should wait for some weeks ?
Especially those people who owned the Note since the beginning in Q4 2011.
What do you think of the development of our Exynos-based Note?
How do you feel after one year that CM for our Note even our little brother S2 is not fully working?
Are you satisfied with the stock ROMs provided by Samsung?
How about the superbrick fiasco? Do you think Samsung should have done something more quickly?
What do you think of the Jelly Bean update for Note? Quality is there?
EDIT: One more question. Will you consider a Samsung for your next device?
Development - good not that bad
CyanogenMod - Not working at its full potential but it is still my daily driver
Satisfaction with Samsung firmware ? - Are you kidding ?
How about the superbrick fiasco ? - I considered selling selling my note when Superbrick bug was detected but there were no other 5' phones at that time. Even now, non-removable battery (Xperia Z and others) is a deal-breaker for me.
Jelly bean update - It does not have professional and finishing touch as I quoted your post in other thread.
Am I happy with my Note ?
I am happy because I'm content and I am content because I am happy
For your every question it's a no.. There are not much development even some peps here think uploading the stock deodex rom with xyz name adding some mods which are already present on forum individually is a developmnet..? A big no, but the elite xda-developers who are trying their best bringing cutting edge work and something innovative to android development world is called development and i am very thankful to them.. But still it's not up to par.. I wish i bought a nexus device in place of note regarding android development and modding.. And sammy is just to lazy in providing update to our device and providing source codes, stock jb is just unacceptable for me it's too laggy for anyone who uses cm as a daily driver.. I am afraid to say that cm is also not fully functional, the memory leak sometimes make me go crazy but have to live with this sh*t truth about my beloved note.. After all i love my note than any other device owned by me in past and please don't term me as complainig it's all what any note user has in his heart to say.. And yeah how can i forget about brick bug, when my note firstly got affected by it i was like what the heck is wrong with my baby it is dead and you will not believe still i fear from doing any wipes it doesn't matter if i have modified kernel or not and the black crush issue is like never gonna sorted out
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Development - we hamper our own progress, more politics than codes, groupism, lack of feedback, squelching of viable ideas
CM - an alternative to explore but not be ruled/smothered by.
Samsung performance - Good in many ways- stable, battery friendly/new features/ frequent updates. Good inspite of black clipping, highly priced devices and poor build quality.
Brickbug - never existed beyond the walls of xda and/or rooting process.
Jelly bean - better than ics
Had a lot of fun with my Note. if i didnt have it , with my past experience of it, Id go for a Samsung product but would wait for price to go down first.
NB - Can you really hope for an unbiased answer ? where you become popular and part of the herd if you call Sammy Crapsung and start off your OP with a statement like - I hate Touchwiz , and thanks are heaped on you for it ? Hate begets hate.
I never put forth my views for argument so dont even try.
1 No development to full potential without Exymos drivers, still ppl did best they could. Most devs left by now
[email protected] ... ... ...them.
3No, but some custom ROMs are/were good.
4My phone has sane chip - they should recall vulnerable devices or deliver sw fix earlier.
5For me on AllianceLSZ it is as close as possibly, but I did not tried stock version.
Last one. I don't think so. They grow to big market share - lame corporation. They are lying, promising and not delivering. All I liked -big screen now is no longer Samsung's only thing. I am not fond of cheap plastic too. I liked sd card and removable battery.
Time will tell. HTC one Motorolla X LG who knows?
Development you can't talk about it since it is for every device separate and the devices high end life is under 6 months so developers are using the hit and run tactic since after awhile the device isn't popular and if you now add the delay of source to be given from the manufacture tell me what can - could you await from the developers. Who they make this with 0 to low profit gain except few of them, but that's another story.
You can't compare s2 with any device out there. S2 is legen wait for it dary .
Samsungs firmware upgrade policy was ok till ics came out, the updates where faster then you could find all the changes from one. After the second ics firmware the things did go worse, if I remember right it was s3 comming out time. And before the note 2 was introduced there was the end.
Profit rules them all.
If you don't buy that you will buy the other. Tell me a company who is making a good device with great support? None.
Google isn't producing her own devices.
Apple? Come on you can spend your money somewhere else.
As long smartphones aren't as PC's where you can add 10, different self picked, parts to make a phone and after that you pick a OS to install on it with the drivers for the parts. Till then you will pay to be happy when you will get a fully operating device with SOME of the things you need.
Own a DBT N7000
Flashed first time on JB leak since till then, the device and OS was enought/had nothing to offer more, to my needs.
Cm never used it. But N7000 without spen? Huge respect to the guys and girls for supporting so many devices ofc.
Let the "flames" begin.
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1 [Development]. Well, there are some sweet ROMs and mods, but my mate that recommended looking for stuff here some time ago said there's everything here, and TBH I don't see it, was looking for ported S Memo for JB, ink effect for S Pen only and other small mods and didn't find anything
2 [CM]. Never cared about it, I picked Note for features built around TW
3 [Stocks]. Until JB, it was pretty good, new features, not too much crap, stable and efficient
4 [Brick]. Terrible mistake and marketing failure, didn't affect me fortunately
5 [JB]. Nope, it's a total disappointment, I was eager to update it ASAP, but after I did it I was like "WHAT THE HELL MAN?". Sad, sad update
6 [Sammy]. I never considered any Samsung's phone other than SII or Note, so no
I am still very happy with my Note...with some work to be done, JB is very fast and stable and bugfree...i tried all CM and his derivates and they are great, but i still like modded stock most, mainly for all the features coming with it or possible to add - and it lags 0 (in words ZERO) for me...brickbug was an awful mistake, bricked 2 devices for me (one i got repaired on warranty)...i dont care about blackclipping cause it never affected me that much...
And cause this seems to be the 'bash sammy and note 1 thread' i am looking forward to some public flogging
I am also happy with my note.
I feel there is a strong but disappointed community regarding development. Most developers have strained that Samsung closedness in regards of hardware level drivers have halted back development months if not a year.
I personally feel the folowing is true: because of difficulty in basic os openeness guys like CM team have found time wanting in further development then basic os. I saw endevours in spen functionality and firmly believe if Samsung was more open, not only would rom development taken off more but also the app development. Just gettting rom functional has sucked the living daylights out of a lot of good devs. Had that not been the case they would have been motivated and have time left to revolutionizing further spen/apps stuff. This is a cascading effect.
I in that sense having seen burnouts and close burnouts with certain devs, am definitely not dissapointed in the devs. Greatfull for their devotion and spirit. In Samsung, yes definately dissapointed. I love what Samsung did with JB. But this whole ordeal is not a good example of transforming an opensource platform into a true community platform. That Samsung can do better. Must do better, because the XDA community is already speaking of moving from Samsung to more dev friendly mobiles. Samsung needs to turn that around.
Their future lineup is promising, but with this trackrecord, its not gonna appeal the devs into storming buyin.
More and more users are following favorite devs, if those devs move away, so will xda members following those devs. Time to step up the game Samsung, we know you want to.
Note is a great device(except battery) for me.Yeah,I miss more ported roms from other phones too,but today we have so many different chips and without sources for drivers I know it's hard...
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Livebyte said:
What do you think of the development of our Exynos-based Note?
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From Samsung, laughable. From individuals, can't ask more.
How do you feel after one year that CM for our Note even our little brother S2 is not fully working?
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Read somewhere that Samsung denied CM Officials' request to release TW Source. IMHO, I don't know if its true or actually a matter of concern but it is quite noticeable that other manufacturers' devices have amazing CMs whereas TW based phones are suffering.
Are you satisfied with the stock ROMs provided by Samsung?
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No.
Dear Samsung, Nobody wants your ****ing motion sensor voodoo you call "Smart-this-Smart-that" and annoying visual/audio effects you call "Nature-Nature". Your idea of using a Digitizer with a phone? Excellent. Making a phone that is a Milestone for Smartphones? Fantastic. Providing Dedicated apps? Orgasmic. ****ty optimization? You lost me.
How about the superbrick fiasco? Do you think Samsung should have done something more quickly?
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Lost my "dear" to that once. My Beloved Samsung with Amazing Proprietary Issues.
What do you think of the Jelly Bean update for Note? Quality is there?
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Pfffffhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
Will you consider a Samsung for your next device?
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Probably. When it comes to RAW Power, Samsung doesn't shy away. That's the beauty of it.
Note has many achievements.
1. It tasted 3 flavors of android.
2. Its the first >5 inch phone which changed the way of users habit.
3. It has seen the mist development more than galaxy nexus. It got all tge major custom releases with tw stock roms as a bonus.
4. Its the only phone which even after 1 and a half year life has a place in users heart.
5. It was a future proof device of its time and the way dev helped it groom is remarkable.
6. Thanks to devs who despite being annoying contributes so much to make our experience good.
Entropy, dr.ketan,Eybee1976, chasmodo, Criskelo, and so many others who take out time to make things better.
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Hello everyone !!!
I owned Galaxy ace before and now I'm deciding to go for a new Android .
I was thinking about going for S-Advance[i9070] , but then now it's been discontinued (that's why it's selling so cheap) , currently it's not available in any Samsung Gallery , it's only there in some shops who had purchased large stock of S-Advance [i9070].
The Hardware is just Awesome .. No doubt about it .
But then again this phone is going to become old and outdated like all the other after a year or so ...
Then Custom Rom based on Cyanogen [by some Awesome Dev's] come into picture and keeps outdated phones on par with latest ones ...
Now I want to inquire if S-Advance has any chances of Getting a STABLE Cm10 ????
I've Heard that NovaThor Chipset has Shut Off and there are no drivers available for this Chipset ...
Many phones like Xperia Sola , Xperia U etc... are facing lot's of problems due to this Chipset (Xperia U is released loong time back still has no Drivers for ThorNava Chipset ) .
So what are the chances of Drivers getting released ?
And is it True that Novathor Sources is Directly proportional to getting CM10 for this device ?
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Hello everyone !!!
I owned Galaxy ace before and now I'm deciding to go for a new Android .
I was thinking about going for S-Advance[i9070] , but then now it's been discontinued (that's why it's selling so cheap) , currently it's not available in any Samsung Gallery , it's only there in some shops who had purchased large stock of S-Advance [i9070].
The Hardware is just Awesome .. No doubt about it .
But then again this phone is going to become old and outdated like all the other after a year or so ...
Then Custom Rom based on Cyanogen [by some Awesome Dev's] come into picture and keeps outdated phones on par with latest ones ...
Now I want to inquire if S-Advance has any chances of Getting a STABLE Cm10 ????
I've Heard that NovaThor Chipset has Shut Off and there are no drivers available for this Chipset ...
Many phones like Xperia Sola , Xperia U etc... are facing lot's of problems due to this Chipset (Xperia U is released loong time back still has no Drivers for ThorNava Chipset ) .
So what are the chances of Drivers getting released ?
And is it True that Novathor Sources is Directly proportional to getting CM10 for this device ?
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To Be Honest Well Cm10.1 Is Now Slowly Being Developed by Our Recognised Dev Shaaan He's doing Builds Slowly and Mostly Has Fixed Many Issues and Bugs of the Cm10.1 plus this Device Isnt Bad Enough
Games No Lags Everything working Great == Custom Kernels Doing their Job
UI Launcher Fluid Smooth ==> thanks to Custom Rom's and also kernels again
CM10.1 Now Slowly Getting All it's bugs and everything fixed but will take time okay
Yes the Resources are the cause that CM10.1 isnt there but Shaaan I think has got the resources thats why he's able to get them Partially fixed CM10.1 will soon be Stable and yeah the resources are the key to CM10.1
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To Be Honest Well Cm10.1 Is Now Slowly Being Developed by Our Recognised Dev Shaaan He's doing Builds Slowly and Mostly Has Fixed Many Issues and Bugs of the Cm10.1 plus this Device Isnt Bad Enough
Games No Lags Everything working Great == Custom Kernels Doing their Job
UI Launcher Fluid Smooth ==> thanks to Custom Rom's and also kernels again
CM10.1 Now Slowly Getting All it's bugs and everything fixed but will take time okay
Yes the Resources are the cause that CM10.1 isnt there but Shaaan I think has got the resources thats why he's able to get them Partially fixed CM10.1 will soon be Stable and yeah the resources are the key to CM10.1
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Yeah I'm aware that Cm10.1 development is going on ...
And I'm also Very Sure that it will be "almost" bug-free within couple of months ... except for the NovaThor sources [that's what I think] ,
but then again I need conformation that is it possible to Completely Build it without NovaThor releasing it's sources...???
No
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Yeah I'm aware that Cm10.1 development is going on ...
And I'm also Very Sure that it will be "almost" bug-free within couple of months ... except for the NovaThor sources [that's what I think] ,
but then again I need conformation that is it possible to Completely Build it without NovaThor releasing it's sources...???
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Unfortunately, the simple answer to that is No. Without ST Ericsson releasing sources for NovaThor™ U8500.
So, for this wonderful phone with good specs. We may well have to be happy with stock JB if it is released anytime soon.
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Unfortunately, the simple answer to that is No. Without ST Ericsson releasing sources for NovaThor™ U8500.
So, for this wonderful phone with good specs. We may well have to be happy with stock JB if it is released anytime soon.
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Well this is Sad news ...
Most probably I'll have to go for Desire X then ...
Has lower Specs than S Advance , but then it will surely get a Totally Stable CM10.1 after few months ...
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Well this is Sad news ...
Most probably I'll have to go for Desire X then ...
Has lower Specs than S Advance , but then it will surely get a Totally Stable CM10.1 after few months ...
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hi The "A" Factor
i wouldn't suggest the Desire X over the S Advance.
seen both the phones and you wouldn't believe - i first got an SGSA (over the DX) in January at 19500
now in the months of March & April, I got 2 SGSAs (one each for me & my wife) :fingers-crossed:
and just this week an acquaintance got one because of the value for money :good:
if you comfortable with online shopping, you can get it at a steal around 13500 INR
BombayBoy
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hi The "A" Factor
i wouldn't suggest the Desire X over the S Advance.
seen both the phones and you wouldn't believe - i first got an SGSA (over the DX) in January at 19500
now in the months of March & April, I got 2 SGSAs (one each for me & my wife) :fingers-crossed:
and just this week an acquaintance got one because of the value for money :good:
if you comfortable with online shopping, you can get it at a steal around 13500 INR
BombayBoy
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I know the value for money and the Hardware that this device packs ...
but then like I said ... I can't stay with stock Rom forever ...
I'm very much used to this Cyanogen thingy and all other rom based on it (Paranoid,AOKP,PAC)
[I've also myself developed Roms and themes] .
I'm very hesitant to spend on a phone which has discontinued and also the MAJOR Fact that , there are no Drivers ... (Xperia U is released looong back , but it's still struggling JB and Cm10 due to this same NovaThor 8500 chipset ) .
(also many shopkeerps tell that you won;t be able to claim warranty[if i purchase this phone now ]as this model is shut off )
Desire X on the contrary offers similar Ram , processor and graphics are little outdated (but it still plays games like subway surfer,max payne , temple run 2 without lags).
Also HTC gives timely updates and I'm getting something unique like the Beats Audio processor and a camera with more features like BURST SHOTS and more FOCAL lense to capture light (also there will be offical Cm10.1 , as there are no problems with the driver releases I guess) .
Well it's your choices... when i came over to this thread there was mostly nothing except few roms about 3-4 max perfect working... and now we have so many roms CM10 is not an exception... Shaaan is working hard and has much of it fixed except ril well lets see what happens
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Well it's your choices... when i came over to this thread there was mostly nothing except few roms about 3-4 max perfect working... and now we have so many roms CM10 is not an exception... Shaaan is working hard and has much of it fixed except ril well lets see what happens
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Maybe I'll wait a week or two to see the Development that @Shaaan is doing and also what happens of the Petition that Xperia users have Signed to obtain the Drivers of novaThor.
Hi to all devs involved in this really interesting project.
I'm CM user. When I just discovered the ROM I was very exited as it gave me more or less the same feeling than I had when I discovered Linux. Nevertheless, the recent turn of events and decisions made in Cyanogenmod (now Inc) are less than thrilling in terms of freedom, innovation possibilities and ultimately, users involvement.
Thus, I'm really interested on OMNI as a project. Despite the fact that I have no clue on android development (programming, design, etc.) I would like to see support for the phone I'm currently using, in order to collaborate with testing, or bug reporting, or anything that can be provided by a end user type of user like myself.
Congrats and good luck with the project! :laugh:
Tomas.
woo.. sounds good..
and is this project was going on now?? :confuse:
send my siggy phone to XDA
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Hi to all devs involved in this really interesting project.
I'm CM user. When I just discovered the ROM I was very exited as it gave me more or less the same feeling than I had when I discovered Linux. Nevertheless, the recent turn of events and decisions made in Cyanogenmod (now Inc) are less than thrilling in terms of freedom, innovation possibilities and ultimately, users involvement.
Thus, I'm really interested on OMNI as a project. Despite the fact that I have no clue on android development (programming, design, etc.) I would like to see support for the phone I'm currently using, in order to collaborate with testing, or bug reporting, or anything that can be provided by a end user type of user like myself.
Congrats and good luck with the project! :laugh:
Tomas.
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Yes please!
Please
can't wait...! please..!
This is like a no brainer..
The most bought phone of the year, with newest android version for the GE..
This should be the premier device to get the OmniROM's love.
People are working on various devices in the jf family, but being a Samsung it's a pain in the ass.
Right now it, along with nearly any other device that uses blobs for the sensor HAL, are having serious issues with sensors.
Sammy
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People are working on various devices in the jf family, but being a Samsung it's a pain in the ass.
Right now it, along with nearly any other device that uses blobs for the sensor HAL, are having serious issues with sensors.
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Why is Samsung always considered as a pain in the ass? hehe I kinda like my S4 lol
I'm another CM user that would try the OmniROM! I'm looking for stable ROMs
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Why is Samsung always considered as a pain in the ass? hehe I kinda like my S4 lol
I'm another CM user that would try the OmniROM! I'm looking for stable ROMs
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because Samsung is very reluctant in offering sources. Thus making the work 1000x harder or even impossible.
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because Samsung is very reluctant in offering sources. Thus making the work 1000x harder or even impossible.
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In addition, even on devices that are using chipsets that are well documented, Samsung always hacks things up. Standards mean nothing to them.
For example, the PROPER way to implement a light sensor is to have the HAL report the maximum value that the sensor can ever report. On the GS2 this was something like 16000 lux.
The way Samsung implemented it?
HAL reports 2000 lux maximum, happily reports values above 2000 lux, framework apparently is hacked to ignore whatever the HAL says.
With their GPS HALs, they added an extra field to the satellite status struct that broke all satellite status reporting until I spent 4-5 evenings reverse engineering it. On every device I've seen that field is always zero - it does nothing, has no way of being reported to apps or the frameworks, but breaks anyone who tries to talk to the GPS HAL using the "standard" interface.
And yes - Qualcomm deviates from the "standard" interface here too - but they document their changes to the header file on CodeAurora.
I'm using the great OmniROM since some hours on my 9505 LTE. It's working very good so far. Much better then CM 11.
Unfortunately the actual nightly from yesterday can't be downloaded - skips when reaching 20,5 kB
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Now that they've released the open source files for KitKat ( http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=I9505G_NA_KK ) can we have a proper super-duper OmniROM rom for jfltexx ?
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I'm using the great OmniROM since some hours on my 9505 LTE. It's working very good so far. Much better then CM 11.
Unfortunately the actual nightly from yesterday can't be downloaded - skips when reaching 20,5 kB
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link to the rom? I'd like to try out OmniRom on my S4
Cannot post links.. Sorry.. Try OmniThread
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At last the work on the new blobs from the g4 GE started... - http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/54810/
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OmniROM for S4 GT-I9505 Int'l LTE
Hello I'm finding the OmniROM great on my i9505 intl LTE.. Everything is working beautifully.. Except the buggy camera and the OTA nightlie updates which I manually still have to flash (no big deal).. Love the rom.. Keep up the great work:good:
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Hello I'm finding the OmniROM great on my i9505 intl LTE.. Everything is working beautifully.. Except the buggy camera and the OTA nightlie updates which I manually still have to flash (no big deal).. Love the rom.. Keep up the great work:good:
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You probably need to upgrade TWRP
Hello everyone, I invite you to this talk to discuss this topic
Did the Galaxy S Advance came to an end?
I have seen many developers are abandoning the Janice and migrating to other devices, it is very normal, everyone wants a change sometimes
but I worry that we're running out ROMs, I understand that this device is 2 years old but I think he had very little time to live
Anyone else think the same? please I would like to leave your opinion on this topic.
¡Sorry for my bad English!
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Hello everyone, I invite you to this talk to discuss this topic
Did the Galaxy S Advance came to an end?
I have seen many developers are abandoning the Janice and migrating to other devices, it is very normal, everyone wants a change sometimes
but I worry that we're running out ROMs, I understand that this device is 2 years old but I think he had very little time to live
Anyone else think the same? please I would like to leave your opinion on this topic.
¡Sorry for my bad English!
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I could not tell I have not then I think this phone can not do more rom
Sorry for my bad English
Greetings from Costa Rica
XperiAMM
MaxiCM Team
Epirex said:
Hello everyone, I invite you to this talk to discuss this topic
Did the Galaxy S Advance came to an end?
I have seen many developers are abandoning the Janice and migrating to other devices, it is very normal, everyone wants a change sometimes
but I worry that we're running out ROMs, I understand that this device is 2 years old but I think he had very little time to live
Anyone else think the same? please I would like to leave your opinion on this topic.
¡Sorry for my bad English!
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Fact is that we do not have any active developer any more. Just look at our Development section. And I am afraid that we can't do anything about that.
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Fact is that we do not have any active developer any more. Just look at our Development section. And I am afraid that we can't do anything about that.
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exactly
Maybe there'll be some revival with coming lolipop? As I know (not really into this) TC did their job bottom up, so all we need now is some talented kid to step up and learn a bit and prepare for coming OS.:fingers-crossed:
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Fact is that we do not have any active developer any more.
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What about vickiushu ?
What about AntresOne (he still is a dev but for other device) ?
Wysłane z mojego nexusowego tablecika.....
i believe we must understand and accept the scenario right now, right from the beginning this device has been struggling for some serious development due to lack of sources , but our capable and smart devs made efforts and as a result we had a variety of popular roms ported to our phone, but sad thing is the transition has been huge since this phone was launched, so its natural and logical for the devs to switch to other devices and for those who are still having the phone have fear of left alone but dont worry guys i think the devs are kind enough to continue bringing good stuff if anything major happens, although not frequently as it used to be
if we have only one good rom with support, we are done there is no need of many roms if that cannot happen according to me...
infacf even we too might eventually switch to a new device sooner or later
so chill, the change thats happening is natural and quite obvious, i just hope we continue to get support for aospa and cm ,
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built from sources* NOT ported.
Guys,don't cry and think a bit at past of s avance ! You know,you can't improve a phone day by day,forever.It has an end due hardware limitation.Who thought that s advance will run cm10.2/11 ? Who tought that we will overclock cpu and gpu? Everyday we opened xda (at least me ) to see if cm10.2/cm11 was released.Let's see what we got until now:
1.Cm 10
2.Cm 10.1
3.Cm 10.2
4.Cm 11
5.Cocore kernel,overclocking cpu + gpu
6.Many roms
What you want more???Overclock to 2.0 Ghz? lol.Is hardware limitation.Also,maybe it can't run Android L.
We got everything is possible for our phone and it was improved alot from stock thanks to our developers.If i would have money,i will donate to them,they deserve.Without them,probably we sold our phone in 1 year.So, every phone has an end.
PS: i forgot to mention that our roms are FULLY WORKING
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built from sources* NOT ported.
Guys,don't cry and think a bit at past of s avance ! You know,you can't improve a phone day by day,forever.It has an end due hardware limitation.Who thought that s advance will run cm10.2/11 ? Who tought that we will overclock cpu and gpu? Everyday we opened xda (at least me ) to see if cm10.2/cm11 was released.Let's see what we got until now:
1.Cm 10
2.Cm 10.1
3.Cm 10.2
4.Cm 11
5.Cocore kernel,overclocking cpu + gpu
6.Many roms
What you want more???Overclock to 2.0 Ghz? lol.Is hardware limitation.Also,maybe it can't run Android L.
We got everything is possible for our phone and it was improved alot from stock thanks to our developers.If i would have money,i will donate to them,they deserve.Without them,probably we sold our phone in 1 year.So, every phone has an end.
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i didnt mean port in winzip method of ported i said that they ported cm etc unofficially as they are called unofficial ports and i am not questioning anybody's hardwork point here is different
and of android L don't be so negative, at the time of kitkat people used to say the same thing but we got it running, so don't predict anything before devs say anything crude after its full launch...
having said that i am not demanding anything i am just being optimistic as everything that this device got was more than expected and a surprise and i am happy with what we have for now
Perhaps the simple language is "Let it flow like water flowing" alone.
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Perhaps the simple language is "Let it flow like water flowing" alone.
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yes of course, after all its just a phone : D
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Perhaps the simple language is "Let it flow like water flowing" alone.
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yes of course, after all its just a phone
Force said:
built from sources* NOT ported.
Guys,don't cry and think a bit at past of s avance ! You know,you can't improve a phone day by day,forever.It has an end due hardware limitation.Who thought that s advance will run cm10.2/11 ? Who tought that we will overclock cpu and gpu? Everyday we opened xda (at least me ) to see if cm10.2/cm11 was released.Let's see what we got until now:
1.Cm 10
2.Cm 10.1
3.Cm 10.2
4.Cm 11
5.Cocore kernel,overclocking cpu + gpu
6.Many roms
What you want more???Overclock to 2.0 Ghz? lol.Is hardware limitation.Also,maybe it can't run Android L.
We got everything is possible for our phone and it was improved alot from stock thanks to our developers.If i would have money,i will donate to them,they deserve.Without them,probably we sold our phone in 1 year.So, every phone has an end.
PS: i forgot to mention that our roms are FULLY WORKING
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never said we want more ROMs, The community achieved since earlier this year and was the difference in the ROMs that came and is grateful to Team Canjica!
But as TPD-21 said, you have to let everything flow as it should