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Hi, I recently got a data plan for my vogue and signed in to thr Google account, as well as downloaded a few apps. What I find is that without even touching my phone my battery drains dramatically (about half way in four hours). I had data enabled before, it's just that I never used it. Anybody know why this is?
Data sync is off, and background data is off as well.
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manifest3r said:
Hi, I recently got a data plan for my vogue and signed in to thr Google account, as well as downloaded a few apps. What I find is that without even touching my phone my battery drains dramatically (about half way in four hours). I had data enabled before, it's just that I never used it. Anybody know why this is?
Data sync is off, and background data is off as well.
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how old is your battery?

almost 2 years old now, I know that takes a toll too...
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Currently the phone runs at full clock speed all the time.
Back when the kernel had the clock speed and voltage reducing (late feb/early march), I used to get 48-56 hours out of the battery with data on.
Lately, over the past few weekends, I've been only able to get 36 hours. Sucks if I forget to charge my phone overnight.
These numbers are based on when the phone actually shut off due to no more power, not the battery gauge itself (it has been incorrect in the past and may still be).
Try the 2/22 kernel. See if it helps.
You'll lose features, but let me know if it improves anything. I intend to check this out in the future.
You can also open a terminal app in a current kernel and do:
Code:
su
echo 1 > /sys/module/board_htcvogue/parameters/slow_clock_when_lcd_off
echo 1 > /sys/module/pm/parameters/slow_clock_when_idle
Sleep and wake up to make it take effect. This will do the same as the 2/22 kernel.
Perhaps Myn can make this a RogueTools startup option?
NOTE:
1. This was disabled because it didn't work on some phones (caused them to freeze -- worked fine on mine).
2. Don't use this with overclocking! Bad things may result (I haven't checked the code).

jnadke said:
Currently the phone runs at full clock speed all the time.
Back when the kernel had the clock speed and voltage reducing (late feb/early march), I used to get 48-56 hours out of the battery with data on.
Lately, over the past few weekends, I've been only able to get 36 hours. Sucks if I forget to charge my phone overnight.
These numbers are based on when the phone actually shut off due to no more power, not the battery gauge itself (it has been incorrect in the past and may still be).
Try the 2/22 kernel. See if it helps.
You'll lose features, but let me know if it improves anything. I intend to check this out in the future.
You can also open a terminal app in a current kernel and do:
Code:
su
echo 1 > /sys/module/board_htcvogue/parameters/slow_clock_when_lcd_off
echo 1 > /sys/module/pm/parameters/slow_clock_when_idle
Sleep and wake up to make it take effect. This will do the same as the 2/22 kernel.
Perhaps Myn can make this a RogueTools startup option?
NOTE:
1. This was disabled because it didn't work on some phones (caused them to freeze -- worked fine on mine).
2. Don't use this with overclocking! Bad things may result (I haven't checked the code).
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I'd love to add this to RogueTools but I am not sure if this is something that dzo will address in the kernel.
dzo: Please let me know. I don't want to step on your toes. I have no probs adding this to RogueTools but if you have plans for this I'll stay clear.

myn said:
I'd love to add this to RogueTools but I am not sure if this is something that dzo will address in the kernel.
dzo: Please let me know. I don't want to step on your toes. I have no probs adding this to RogueTools but if you have plans for this I'll stay clear.
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Actually I have plans for this, however it won't be fixed in the near-term. You could probably add it to RogueTools for now.
I would like to get some form of cpufreq support working on the vogue. I've already talked with dzo in the past about adding cpufreq support, he didn't have much interest in implementing it.
I've never tested scientifically if these values actually make a difference. Technically, as dzo mentions, the clocks are all turned off when the device is idle (i.e. truly sleeping). However, there are cases where the clock-reducing would have an effect when linux is idling, but the processor hasn't slept yet. This would happen if an app is repeatedly waking up the device to sync.
My observations are entirely empirical. I used to get really good battery life across the board until I upgraded my kernel past 2/22 (I used that one up until late March).
I'll use the phone for a while with clock idling turned on and see if my battery life improves.

jnadke said:
Actually I have plans for this, however it won't be fixed in the near-term. You could probably add it to RogueTools for now.
I would like to get some form of cpufreq support working on the vogue. I've already talked with dzo in the past about adding cpufreq support, he didn't have much interest in implementing it.
I've never tested scientifically if these values actually make a difference. Technically, as dzo mentions, the clocks are all turned off when the device is idle (i.e. truly sleeping). However, there are cases where the clock-reducing would have an effect when linux is idling, but the processor hasn't slept yet. This would happen if an app is repeatedly waking up the device to sync.
My observations are entirely empirical. I used to get really good battery life across the board until I upgraded my kernel past 2/22 (I used that one up until late March).
I'll use the phone for a while with clock idling turned on and see if my battery life improves.
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All the tests I have done suggest that changing the clock when the device is on has no effect on power consumption. We are lucky because the battery reports power consumption. On idle the cpu does a SWFI which stops the CPU clock (and some other clocks too). What would make a difference is implementing power collapse on idle (CPU is completely powered down just like when asleep) and I have thought about doing this. It's quite a bit of work and wince doesn't do this so perhaps it's not reliable. I might do some tests to see how much power it would save.

[Q] Maximizing battery life as much as possible?

Before anyone accuse me of it, I did, in fact, look through the other battery threads on this forum (and other forums, for that matter), and I've already applied numerous tricks. I managed to get my phone to last roughly 9 hours from my typical usage, which now makes it comparable to other phones I've used in the past.
However, in about a day or two, I'm going to be getting a bluetooth headset...which basically means that I'm going to need to keep the Captivate's bluetooth on 24/7 (or, at least, most of the day). I really don't know how much battery this is going to cost me on the Captivate, so I'm trying my best to make things better now to make things smooth in the future. However, I appear to be at the end of my rope.
I have pretty much gimped the Captivate as much as one could reasonably take (more, I'd dare argue). I cut all of my volume down to half of what it was and I removed most of the quick icons. I also set a completely black wallpaper, I turned off all animation, and I turned the brightness down to its lowest setting.
I honestly don't know how to make it any worse. The SAMOLED screen is basically a meaningless PR term to me now and I'm actually missing phone calls from sheer lacking of hearing my phone ring...despite it being right in my pocket.
Going even further, I also attempted to switch to ADW.Launcher based upon recommendations by others that it increases battery life (I found that it had little to no effect). I also attempted to severely underclock my CPU (down to 200Mhz) based, again, upon other claims that it increases their battery life all the way to as high as 30+ hours on a single full charge.
Somehow, underclocking my CPU actually made the battery die out faster.
Furthermore, I attempted to use programs (SMODA, 2G/3G) which claim they allow me to switch to EDGE because, for some God-forsaken reason, Android doesn’t seem to have any toggle for doing it. Unfortunately, none of them seem to work; rather than switching to 2G, they all just completely disabled data, which, unfortunately, is completely unacceptable to me. So at this point, I only seem to have a few more extreme (from my perspective) options. Once I actually get the bluetooth, I plan to turn off most of the auto-updating apps (email, weather, twitter, etc), and just update them myself periodically. Furthermore, I plan to turn off the GPS location feature once I get my GPS unit.
Beyond the above, though, as I said, I'm at the end of my rope. Once I employ the other tricks, I figure I might be able to stretch battery life to 9.5-10 hours, but I would like to go even further. If anyone could offer me some help, I would highly appreciate it.

if your gonna have a bluetooth headset on disable your ringtone completly that would be meaning less. if your near wi-fi a lot have it connect only though that.
also you can clock the cpu down to 100Mhz along with the GPU.
AND to force 2G/edge read my howto in general
oh the ext2 lagfix can also save you some battery life

xatrekak said:
if your gonna have a bluetooth headset on disable your ringtone completly that would be meaning less. if your near wi-fi a lot have it connect only though that.
also you can clock the cpu down to 100Mhz along with the GPU.
AND to force 2G/edge read my howto in general
oh the ext2 lagfix can also save you some battery life
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I'm already doing the first sans disabling ringtone. I'm not so sure doing such a thing would be acceptable to me.
As for the underlocking suggestion, as I said, I underclocked the CPU all the way down to 200Mhz and the battery actually drained even faster. I doubt underclocking even further is going to help. Furthermore, I actually did try 100Mhz originally, but the performance was so horrendous that it was unbearable.
As for the lag fix, I already have it. Lastly, I knew about that 4636 technique to switch to 2G already, but, unfortunately, it doesn't appear to work for me. The setting doesn't save and 3G still remains.
EDIT: I actually found a way to make the above work. Simply dial *#*#197328640#*#*, then go Debug Screen > Phone Control > UE State Control > Change RAT to GSM. This will actually force your phone to use GSM only. This seems like the answer to all of my battery problems....except it doesn't work. Once you make the change, the INFO menu reports that it has been changed to 'GSM Only', but data appears to have been disabled. Restarting your phone makes data works again, but the INFO menu reported that data has been reset back to 'GSM/CDMA auto'. Yay.

If you haven't already, turn off GPS when you aren't using it. Use the Power Control widget to help. Make sure all of the things in the power control widget are off unless you are using it. And use advanced task killer if you haven't already.

i say screw underclocking let run at whatever i dont think it makes a difference.
forget advanced task killer, i like auto killer.
leave gps off unless needed, and backround data
switch to 2g when you can.
no live walls of course use dark or black, no updating widgets
i dumped stuff like juice defender, cause with backround data off i dont think it does anything.
flight mode it at night (when sleeping) if not charging
ive been running jh3 (now jh7) with sre. get to work (i run 2g at work)at 9am listen to pandora all day through bluetooth (which is on for 6-8hrs) and wifi (6-8hrs) good amount off browsing bout 30 min of voice calls, some texts email checking, more browsing, some games. on average lately after being unplugged for 13-17 hrs at the end of the day with 20-30% life left,using bout 3hrs of display, 30 min voice calls, bluetooth doesnt use crap bout 3%, media server usually 15%, cell satndby i wanna say 10%, im pretty happy i guess, even though im always lookin for better results, tryin the new sre with undervolting, heard some good things.
still when that seidio 3200 mah battery comes out im gettin it, dont care how fat it makes the phone, things to dang thin as it is, and without some sort of cover its like a wet bar of soap!!

What is your typical daily usage? I have fairly light usage (few games here and there a little music and a good amount of web surfing, app browsing and texting with a few phone calls using speaker phone) and I'm at 28 hours of use with 55% battery.
I have just the typical power saving tricks(gps off, bluetooth off, screen at minimum or 30% and my data doesn't sync automatically), no under clocking or anything. I should point out I'm running a euro galaxy rom and am not ever on a wifi connection.

NotAppropriate said:
What is your typical daily usage? I have fairly light usage (few games here and there a little music and a good amount of web surfing, app browsing and texting with a few phone calls using speaker phone) and I'm at 28 hours of use with 55% battery.
I have just the typical power saving tricks(gps off, bluetooth off, screen at minimum or 30% and my data doesn't sync automatically), no under clocking or anything. I should point out I'm running a euro galaxy rom and am not ever on a wifi connection.
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Wow you are lucky. Yesterday I got 2 phone calls for a total of 3 minutes. I sent 7 text messages. I surfed the web maybe for 15 minutes. No games. Nothing else major. GPS off. Bluetooth off. Wifi on. Screen at 22%. Only background data I have is email which checks once every hour and a weather widget that refreshes every 6 hours. I got barely 12 hours in before my battery died.

fishgator said:
If you haven't already, turn off GPS when you aren't using it. Use the Power Control widget to help. Make sure all of the things in the power control widget are off unless you are using it. And use advanced task killer if you haven't already.
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Yes, I'm keeping GPS off, and I'm using ATK already.
NotAppropriate said:
What is your typical daily usage? I have fairly light usage (few games here and there a little music and a good amount of web surfing, app browsing and texting with a few phone calls using speaker phone) and I'm at 28 hours of use with 55% battery.
I have just the typical power saving tricks(gps off, bluetooth off, screen at minimum or 30% and my data doesn't sync automatically), no under clocking or anything. I should point out I'm running a euro galaxy rom and am not ever on a wifi connection.
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Typical usage for me runs along this line: A lot of web browsing, perhaps 30-45 minutes of music, and plenty of IM. I also use Aldiko to read now and then. Calls do factor into this, but typically only two or three 10-15 minute phone calls.
Truthfully, I simply don't see how it is possible for you to use the phone for 28 hours straight and still have 55% battery. I could lose 30% battery just by leaving my Captivate on stand-by for 30 hours.

I certainly understand the interest in having the best battery life possible.
Are you in a work environment where you cannot plug it to a computer for part of the day?
Fortunately, I am. And I always have it plugged in in the car.
I don't want to have a powerful phone with all the features turned off in order to keep it going.

I dont see how you can get 28hrs @ 55% either, with the kind of usage he was claiming, i wouldnt exactly call that light usage
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28hrs @ 55% What firmware you runnin
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ewingr said:
I certainly understand the interest in having the best battery life possible.
Are you in a work environment where you cannot plug it to a computer for part of the day?
Fortunately, I am. And I always have it plugged in in the car.
I don't what to have a powerful phone with all the features turned off in order to keep it going.
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Well, I do have a work environment where I can keep my Captivate plugged in, but only half of the time. Other times, I need to move. Aside from that, it kind of annoys me to use a phone attached to a wall socket. I prefer to keep my smartphones plugged in only long enough for them to fully charge (or at least charge to 80+%), then unplug them for usage. This is kind of tough for the Captivate considering it takes 3-4 hours to fully charge.
I also fully agree with you on the last point, which is what makes all of this so frustrating.
*Sigh* It's really too bad the Captivate is my first Android phone; it's been kind of a negative experience for me so far. Ironically enough, the one issue that hasn't been a problem for me is the one issue most seem to be having -- GPS performance.

roadrash7 said:
I dont see how you can get 28hrs @ 55% either, with the kind of usage he was claiming, i wouldnt exactly call that light usage
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I am in class for most of the day so the phone is idle most of the time but i only play about 10 minutes of music with about an hour or 2 combined web surfing and games but my phone is still chugging at 39 percent battery life at 38 hours of usage. I guess that qualifies as light usage then.
edit: jm6 with unhelpful kernel and sre
also, you have let the battery die out completely and recharge completely with the phone powered off correct?

NotAppropriate said:
I am in class for most of the day so the phone is idle most of the time but i only play about 10 minutes of music with about an hour or 2 combined web surfing and games but my phone is still chugging at 39 percent battery life at 38 hours of usage. I guess that qualifies as light usage then.
edit: jm6 with unhelpful kernel and sre
also, you have let the battery die out completely and recharge completely with the phone powered off correct?
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I'm honestly shocked at your usage. Am I reading right that in the 38 hours since you last charged it, you only used it for 10 minutes of music and a combined 1-2 hours of web surfing/games? I wouldn't call that light usage. I would call that hardly any usage.
Under such conditions, I can see why your battery life lasts so long.

I don't see why you can't get a days worth of usage out of your phone. Cell phone calls use the most battery - that is why the phone is rated at about 5 hours of talk time. This would be in the best signal area. If you are in a lower signal environment (especially in a heavy building all day) you will see faster battery drain.
I am not sure why you are bothering with BT if you are only talking on 2 or 3 calls - but if you take 3 15 minute calls that is at least 15% of your battery - the only way to change this is force the phone to Edge.
I would not lower ringtone volume - that is not a big battery saver in the grand scheme of things and you are missing calls - not a good trade off. If you are doing a lot of web surfing, go WiFi instead and you will see big battery imrovements. 3G voice and data suck battery - it doesn't matter if you have android or iPhone.
If you put your phone in Airplane mode you can go for 5 days between charges with minimum use.

The radio does kill the battery, I don't think the battery usage screen really depicts this. Since I've gotten my captivate my old BB Bold (at the time would only last 3 hours due to its degraded battery) lasts days on end with its radio disabled while sitting in my desk. I'd love to see native 3G toggle or at least a captivate catered app, I'd even pay for the latter
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alphadog00 said:
I don't see why you can't get a days worth of usage out of your phone. Cell phone calls use the most battery - that is why the phone is rated at about 5 hours of talk time. This would be in the best signal area. If you are in a lower signal environment (especially in a heavy building all day) you will see faster battery drain.
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Well, that rating is probably the battery life if your decide to talk on your phone for five hours straight. I really, really doubt it takes into consideration the in-between times (games, apps, and, of course, web surfing). Phone calls undoubtedly takes the most amount of battery, but Internet usage is probably second place and, as said, I use that fairly often.
Lastly, I'm not planning to use my bluetooth exclusively for phone calls. I'm going to use it for calls, listen to music on the Captivate, chat on my PC, and so on. It's multi-usage.
Next, you're missing a lot of the things I said. As I said, I already tried numerous methods to force the phone into 2G; not one of them works (they either don't work at all or actually completely disable my data). I'm already using wifi as opposed to 3G as much as possible.
Lastly, I'm sorry, but using airplane mode to save battery is not acceptable. If I'm even willing to consider this, then I might as well just turn off the Captivate to save battery.

I just read something about an external sd card being another battery drain.
Took mine out and we will see. I was already getting through the day with about 20%left.

8525Smart said:
Well, that rating is probably the battery life if your decide to talk on your phone for five hours straight. I really, really doubt it takes into consideration the in-between times (games, apps, and, of course, web surfing). Phone calls undoubtedly takes the most amount of battery, but Internet usage is probably second place and, as said, I use that fairly often.
Lastly, I'm not planning to use my bluetooth exclusively for phone calls. I'm going to use it for calls, listen to music on the Captivate, chat on my PC, and so on. It's multi-usage.
Next, you're missing a lot of the things I said. As I said, I already tried numerous methods to force the phone into 2G; not one of them works (they either don't work at all or actually completely disable my data). I'm already using wifi as opposed to 3G as much as possible.
Lastly, I'm sorry, but using airplane mode to save battery is not acceptable. If I'm even willing to consider this, then I might as well just turn off the Captivate to save battery.
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I didn't meant to suggest that airplane mode was an alternative, just to point out that the cell radio for Voice and Data is your biggest drain.
If you are going to use the phone for almost an hour of talk time, heavy web surfing and BT connections for tethering then your battery life will be limited. If you are using BT to chat on your pc - then maybe tethering with USB would be better - you could charge at the same time.
Your other option is to get a spare battery.
And I did read what you had to say, I just didn't realize how much you were expecting your phone to do. The only numbers your provider were around talk time.
I use my phone a lot and I charge it every 24 hours - I am more then satisfied - but I know that if a spend an hour or more talking on it and bunch of web surfing that I will have to think about charging it as my usage increases.

There is a way to force the phone into 2G. It isn't very user friendly. I have tested this and it works great.
Enter the Phone app.
Dial *#*#197328640#*#*
Select [1] DEBUG SCREEN
Select [8] PHONE CONTROL
Select [4] UE STATE CONTROL
If you want 2G, select:
[3] CHANGE RAT TO GSM
If you want 3G, select:
[2] CHANGE RAT TO WCDMA

Screen Brightness kills battery more than you'd think

So the poor battery life on my Note 4 might have more to do with screen brightness than I would have expected. Unfortunately, most people posting their SOT's aren't doing it in a very scientific way, so it's hard to know what we should expect from these devices.
Here are my battery test results using PCMark for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.pcmark.android.benchmark
In one test, I put the screen brightness to 100% and the results were pretty dismal. In the second test, I ran it at 50% brightness, which is brighter than the Note 2 at full and the results were much better.
I use Auto brightness during the day, which might explain my poor battery life, but I'd love to know what others score on PCMark are (it does run for 5+ hours!). I do keep my background BLACK, as well as using black themes on everything I can - for apps that only have white backgrounds, I use AutomateIt to invert the colors automatically. I would have thought these black backgrounds would do more, but it really comes down to brightness it seems.
I'm using an Exynos N910U model and left wifi connected while doing this test - 3 google accounts are synced on my device.

EP2008 said:
So the poor battery life on my Note 4 might have more to do with screen brightness than I would have expected. Unfortunately, most people posting their SOT's aren't doing it in a very scientific way, so it's hard to know what we should expect from these devices.
Here are my battery test results using PCMark for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.pcmark.android.benchmark
In one test, I put the screen brightness to 100% and the results were pretty dismal. In the second test, I ran it at 50% brightness, which is brighter than the Note 2 at full and the results were much better.
I use Auto brightness during the day, which might explain my poor battery life, but I'd love to know what others score on PCMark are (it does run for 5+ hours!). I do keep my background BLACK, as well as using black themes on everything I can - for apps that only have white backgrounds, I use AutomateIt to invert the colors automatically. I would have thought these black backgrounds would do more, but it really comes down to brightness it seems.
I'm using an Exynos N910U model and left wifi connected while doing this test - 3 google accounts are synced on my device.
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thanks for tests im using my exynos version on auto brightness and generally get 6 hours SOT. i saw on alot of people s stats and people who has problems generally has google play services on their battery usage list and it definetly shouldnt be at there... its probably about location reports to google every1 should disable it from location settings it doesnt break anything.

tmac31 said:
thanks for tests im using my exynos version on auto brightness and generally get 6 hours SOT. i saw on alot of people s stats and people who has problems generally has google play services on their battery usage list and it definetly shouldnt be at there... its probably about location reports to google every1 should disable it from location settings it doesnt break anything.
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Yes, location can be an issue, but I think that impacts standby time more than SOT. Currently I've done the following to help with location-related issues:
- used lion tamer (soon to be called amplify) to slow down NLP wakelocks.
- set my location settings to powersave mode
- setup AutomateIt to turn on GPS when I'm in Google Maps (I'm usually plugged into the car outlet, so battery isn't a concern while navigating.
- Greenify stuff like Google search, Maps and several others.
I like and use Location Reporting, so disabling it outright isn't an option. My standby usage is very good at usually less than 1% an hour and my wakelocks keep my device awake usually less than 6%, but I'm still working to lower that number.

EP2008 said:
Yes, location can be an issue, but I think that impacts standby time more than SOT. Currently I've done the following to help with location-related issues:
- used lion tamer (soon to be called amplify) to slow down NLP wakelocks.
- set my location settings to powersave mode
- setup AutomateIt to turn on GPS when I'm in Google Maps (I'm usually plugged into the car outlet, so battery isn't a concern while navigating.
- Greenify stuff like Google search, Maps and several others.
I like and use Location Reporting, so disabling it outright isn't an option. My standby usage is very good at usually less than 1% an hour and my wakelocks keep my device awake usually less than 6%, but I'm still working to lower that number.
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last night with 10 hours sleep time. with wifi connected sync was activated for 3 mails. i just lost 2% and i didnt do anything special like you did. no greenify no root nothing i couldnt even install wakelock detector cuz its broken on kitkat without root.
. i just disabled some useless stuff like samsung store etc.. everything else is working. and on my car i generally listen music over bluetooth

Lux could help

tmac31 said:
last night with 10 hours sleep time. with wifi connected sync was activated for 3 mails. i just lost 2% and i didnt do anything special like you did. no greenify no root nothing i couldnt even install wakelock detector cuz its broken on kitkat without root.
. i just disabled some useless stuff like samsung store etc.. everything else is working. and on my car i generally listen music over bluetooth
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Before I started tweaking, I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR! Disabling stuff without root only got me so far, then the xposed tweaks and Titanium Backup had to be used.

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Before I started tweaking, I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR! Disabling stuff without root only got me so far, then the xposed tweaks and Titanium Backup had to be used.
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like i said i dont know whats wrong for some people its probably something you installed(skype maybe) or mostly about location reporting. even last night i left my phone at 90% when i get it this morning after like 10 hours it was on 88% like i said earlier wifi was connected no power saving etc just normal idle time nothing special.

tmac31 said:
like i said i dont know whats wrong for some people its probably something you installed(skype maybe) or mostly about location reporting. even last night i left my phone at 90% when i get it this morning after like 10 hours it was on 88% like i said earlier wifi was connected no power saving etc just normal idle time nothing special.
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I was testing without any apps installed (just whatever I used to record battery consumption) and it was crazy high. Then I started adding accounts and apps, tweaking and I got my standby time to be much lower, but SOT leaves much to be desired. I'm going to try using the manual brightness and see if there are any differences - I often find auto brightness to be too bright or too dim! No "sweet spot" found! LOL

Greeny can also help but may need root

I'd suggest changing the settings for your Battery Monitor Widget app. AFAICS it polls every 10 minutes so a wakelock occurs every ten minutes to save the data. Use something like an hour and see what happens. Also would highly recommend BetterBatteryStats, a free version is available here for members.
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bnbasarir said:
I'd suggest changing the settings for your Battery Monitor Widget app. AFAICS it polls every 10 minutes so a wakelock occurs every ten minutes to save the data. Use something like an hour and see what happens. Also would highly recommend BetterBatteryStats, a free version is available here for members.
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I'll try that, although that might only improve wakelocks, not screen on time.
BBS never worked right for me. Always complaining that it couldn't retrieve the stats or falling back on something else.
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I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR!
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Wait, with the screen off? Then you have something horribly wrong with your device. Mine did a few % over a night. With nothing done to the phone to conserve battery at all. Snapdragon, though. With the update.

I loose only 2% for 7h of standby last night.

We are seeing a trend I think, I noticed that it's mainly us 910U users or exnyos users complaining about battery life. So it must be something in the 910U rom?

I've got a 910F and I get 6 hours screen on time maximum :/

Slai said:
Wait, with the screen off? Then you have something horribly wrong with your device. Mine did a few % over a night. With nothing done to the phone to conserve battery at all. Snapdragon, though. With the update.
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Doesn't happen now that I've rooted and applied my standard tweaks, but I tried a factory reset to see if I could correct the high standby drain and was not successful without these tweaks.
Sent from my SM-N910U

I have 910f and i got same issues with my batt.
i've tried clean system, root, custom rom. Battery is always draining higher than some people.
As i said in other thread: some people have an issue, some have great battery life. And nobody knows why

Maybe it's the guys who keep it stock and don't root, custom rom and "tweak" that get the good battery life.

Delete it pls.

Slai said:
Maybe it's the guys who keep it stock and don't root, custom rom and "tweak" that get the good battery life.
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I'm on stock, but without tweaks I can't even go the day on standby. [emoji31]
Sent from my SM-N910U

[Q] Can I borrow your settings? (battery)

I'm at the end of my rope struggling with this battery. My average sot is 3.5 to 4 hours and I cannot seem to improve that. I've tried everything. Romming, disabling everything, running clean installs, no apps, etc. I think I've wiped this phone more than my..... Probably 10 times trying to improve this battery life. In 2 weeks.
I have wugs kit installed. I will match your settings, I will go appless, I'll root, remove stock apps, I'll do whatever you tell me to. I don't want to go back to my z3 but I need some decent sot in my life.
Just looking for one person with stellar battery life and a little bit of time.

FMMFL said:
I'm at the end of my rope struggling with this battery. My average sot is 3.5 to 4 hours and I cannot seem to improve that. I've tried everything. Romming, disabling everything, running clean installs, no apps, etc. I think I've wiped this phone more than my..... Probably 10 times trying to improve this battery life. In 2 weeks.
I have wugs kit installed. I will match your settings, I will go appless, I'll root, remove stock apps, I'll do whatever you tell me to. I don't want to go back to my z3 but I need some decent sot in my life.
Just looking for one person with stellar battery life and a little bit of time.
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3.5 to 4 hours sot? or the battery in general even the phone is sleep?

My average sot is 3.5 to 4 hours.

You borrowing someone else's settings isn't going to do anything because everybody uses their phone differently. Just because you get 3.5 - 4 hours of sot doesn't mean anything because your cellular signal is going to be different to other users, the better cellular signal you have the less battery it'll drain (and vice versa), if you're on WiFi all day then your battery life will be better.
As a good start, I'd recommend getting a app such as BetterBatteryStats to check for any apps that can be causing wakelocks.
Flash a custom kernel such as LeanKernel and underclock the phone's CPU/GPU frequency while disabling mpdecision.
Download App Ops (unless your ROM has it embedded) and deny permission to "Keep Awake" for Google Play Services. Google Play Services drain battery when having Keep Awake permission.

I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.

FMMFL said:
I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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You're not listening to what I said. You cannot just borrow someone's settings, it doesn't work that way because there is no universal setting that works for everybody. Perform the two other battery tips that I've mentioned.
Flash LeanKernel B10 and disable mpdecision and underclocking your CPU/GPU frequencies to a lower clock such as 1.5 GHz max CPU and 389 max GPU will help significantly as well as the Google Play Services permission deny as well as lowering screen off max freq to 960MHz or 1.2GHz.
Using black/dark backgrounds help as well since N6 is a AMOLED screen. Whites consume more battery, disable ambient display as well.
Don't use Gapps that include all the Google bloatware with Google+ etc. If you have BBS, then you aren't looking at it right. You need to look at partial wakelocks as well as alarms.
Greenify helps with apps that you need but consume a lot of battery (e.g. Facebook)
Disable sync for Google for the apps you don't need.
Make refresh interval for your apps longer or refresh manually (e.g. Twitter, weather apps)

FMMFL said:
I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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4 hours of sot is not bad. Mine is the same as you. The only thing that made me not returning that phone is the fast charging. This thing is fast I had a note 4 and it was not charging fast like this one. So battery is not a problem for me when I can put my phone on the charger for 15 min and get 50%.

zephiK said:
You're not listening to what I said. You cannot just borrow someone's settings, it doesn't work that way because there is no universal setting that works for everybody. Perform the two other battery tips that I've mentioned.
Flash LeanKernel B10 and disable mpdecision and underclocking your CPU/GPU frequencies to a lower clock such as 1.5 GHz max CPU and 389 max GPU will help significantly as well as the Google Play Services permission deny as well as lowering screen off max freq to 960MHz or 1.2GHz.
Using black/dark backgrounds help as well since N6 is a AMOLED screen. Whites consume more battery, disable ambient display as well.
Don't use Gapps that include all the Google bloatware with Google+ etc. If you have BBS, then you aren't looking at it right. You need to look at partial wakelocks as well as alarms.
Greenify helps with apps that you need but consume a lot of battery (e.g. Facebook)
Disable sync for Google for the apps you don't need.
Make refresh interval for your apps longer or refresh manually (e.g. Twitter, weather apps)
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Thanks for your help.
I've installed lean kernel b10, installed appops (and disabled gp services wake), disabled google syncs I don't use, underclocked CPU/GPU to your recommended values with kernel tweaker, installed a pure black wallpaper. But I do not see where I disable mpdecision.

FMMFL said:
Thanks for your help.
I've installed lean kernel b10, installed appops (and disabled gp services wake), disabled google syncs I don't use, underclocked CPU/GPU to your recommended values with kernel tweaker, installed a pure black wallpaper. But I do not see where I disable mpdecision.
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You have to use a app such as trickster mod which you can find it on the play store. Set the cpu gpu mpdecision as well as other kernel settings there.
Don't forget to flash the set min mpdecision zip from the lean thread so the gpu cpu frequencies stick.
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FMMFL said:
I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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on wifi is when i get my worst battery life. wifi is like your network signal quality, it can be great quality, and it could be lousy quality. the worse the quality of your wifi signal, the worse your battery will be, no matter what. not using, i can lose 10-15% battery on wifi in about an hour. yes, not doing anything with the phone at all. on my network signal, i easily get 6h+ sot a cycle. so, repeating, your issue is probably your wifi.

simms22 said:
on wifi is when i get my worst battery life. wifi is like your network signal quality, it can be great quality, and it could be lousy quality. the worse the quality of your wifi signal, the worse your battery will be, no matter what. not using, i can lose 10-15% battery on wifi in about an hour. yes, not doing anything with the phone at all. on my network signal, i easily get 6h+ sot a cycle. so, repeating, your issue is probably your wifi.
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Interesting. What kind of router are you using? I have a netgear R6300 which has been solid in every other aspect of wifi.
I had my sim out of my phone yesterday while I used my Z3 and noticed, when I picked it up later in the day, it had used about 1% every three hours. This was turned on, connected to wifi, with my usual apps running. So it seems like my problem would be the opposite. Seems like I run into issues once I pop my sim into it.

FMMFL said:
Interesting. What kind of router are you using? I have a netgear R6300 which has been solid in every other aspect of wifi.
I had my sim out of my phone yesterday while I used my Z3 and noticed, when I picked it up later in the day, it had used about 1% every three hours. This was turned on, connected to wifi, with my usual apps running. So it seems like my problem would be the opposite. Seems like I run into issues once I pop my sim into it.
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well, then your wifi is much better than what i have around, for sure. what do you keep your brightness at? that could also make a huge difference in battery life. i keep mine around 15-20%. if i raise it to about 40-45%, ill get about an hour less screen on time.

simms22 said:
well, then your wifi is much better than what i have around, for sure. what do you keep your brightness at? that could also make a huge difference in battery life. i keep mine around 15-20%. if i raise it to about 40-45%, ill get about an hour less screen on time.
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Yeah I definitely wouldn't suspect the wifi at this point but I will try to run tomorrow without it to see if anything changes.
I usually have my brightness around 40% but today it is down closer to 25% while I test the changes I've made.

Heavy Battery Drain related to CPU usage?

Hey guys,
I've been having some issues recently with battery drain on my Turbo which I think is related to an unncessarily high CPU usage for apps that shouldn't be that demanding. Let me start way back
I work in a radiation shielded environment so I keep my phone in airplane mode at work with WiFi on. I don't think this has to do with the phone constantly searching for signal.
I also greenify apps like an OCD madman. I do have a Moto 360 1st gen paired to my phone along with a pair of bluetooth stereo headphones essentially all the time. I've been using amplify to block location based wakelocks and to override the sync rate to every 10 minutes instead of push for certain google apps. I've been watching the wakelocks closely and I haven't found anything like rogue programs as far as I can tell eating up battery (i.e. apps I wasn't already actively aware of running). Adaptive brightness is enabled but attentive display (where it's supposed to watch you) is disabled. I use moto display including the IR sensor wave gesture. I don't use the alarm gesture. I don't use Moto Assist.
My issue basically has been with listening to music/radio from my phone. Streaming radio from Tune In Radio Pro dropped my battery about 10% in 20 minutes with the screen on (I was texting and reading emails on the bus while listening to it). The phone was definitely hot to the touch. If I disable internet and do the same thing with Google Play music and local storage, the battery is slightly better but still drops significantly. Again, the phone ends up feeling like it's running hot. I looked at the CPU states under Bettery Battery Stats and the phone was at fairly high clock speeds (20% 1.73 GHz, 5% 2.65 GHz). I don't know if this was the definitive way to establish this.
Here's the kicker though. I enabled Android's battery saver option (it says it basically disabled sync, vibrate, and throttles the CPU) and have been running radio/music with FAR better battery drain. Like barely a percent or 2 in a half hour. I know that with sync disabled I would expect better battery too but the phone isn't hot and it wasn't always like this.
I'm running Computer Freak's 1.2.6 unlocked ROM. I guess my main question would be could I selectively choose power save features (i.e. CPU throttling WITHOUT disabling sync, vibrate, etc.) or is there any way to figure out why these apps end up making the phone run hot? Thanks!

vahx129 said:
Hey guys,
I've been having some issues recently with battery drain on my Turbo which I think is related to an unncessarily high CPU usage for apps that shouldn't be that demanding. Let me start way back
I work in a radiation shielded environment so I keep my phone in airplane mode at work with WiFi on. I don't think this has to do with the phone constantly searching for signal.
I also greenify apps like an OCD madman. I do have a Moto 360 1st gen paired to my phone along with a pair of bluetooth stereo headphones essentially all the time. I've been using amplify to block location based wakelocks and to override the sync rate to every 10 minutes instead of push for certain google apps. I've been watching the wakelocks closely and I haven't found anything like rogue programs as far as I can tell eating up battery (i.e. apps I wasn't already actively aware of running). Adaptive brightness is enabled but attentive display (where it's supposed to watch you) is disabled. I use moto display including the IR sensor wave gesture. I don't use the alarm gesture. I don't use Moto Assist.
My issue basically has been with listening to music/radio from my phone. Streaming radio from Tune In Radio Pro dropped my battery about 10% in 20 minutes with the screen on (I was texting and reading emails on the bus while listening to it). The phone was definitely hot to the touch. If I disable internet and do the same thing with Google Play music and local storage, the battery is slightly better but still drops significantly. Again, the phone ends up feeling like it's running hot. I looked at the CPU states under Bettery Battery Stats and the phone was at fairly high clock speeds (20% 1.73 GHz, 5% 2.65 GHz). I don't know if this was the definitive way to establish this.
Here's the kicker though. I enabled Android's battery saver option (it says it basically disabled sync, vibrate, and throttles the CPU) and have been running radio/music with FAR better battery drain. Like barely a percent or 2 in a half hour. I know that with sync disabled I would expect better battery too but the phone isn't hot and it wasn't always like this.
I'm running Computer Freak's 1.2.6 unlocked ROM. I guess my main question would be could I selectively choose power save features (i.e. CPU throttling WITHOUT disabling sync, vibrate, etc.) or is there any way to figure out why these apps end up making the phone run hot? Thanks!
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If you used baybutcher's custom kernel, you could throttle the CPUs frequencies, and set a more power saving CPU governer, as well as other battery saving options.
That would probably require you to flash RR.

vahx129 said:
Hey guys,
I've been having some issues recently with battery drain on my Turbo which I think is related to an unncessarily high CPU usage for apps that shouldn't be that demanding. Let me start way back
I work in a radiation shielded environment so I keep my phone in airplane mode at work with WiFi on. I don't think this has to do with the phone constantly searching for signal.
I also greenify apps like an OCD madman. I do have a Moto 360 1st gen paired to my phone along with a pair of bluetooth stereo headphones essentially all the time. I've been using amplify to block location based wakelocks and to override the sync rate to every 10 minutes instead of push for certain google apps. I've been watching the wakelocks closely and I haven't found anything like rogue programs as far as I can tell eating up battery (i.e. apps I wasn't already actively aware of running). Adaptive brightness is enabled but attentive display (where it's supposed to watch you) is disabled. I use moto display including the IR sensor wave gesture. I don't use the alarm gesture. I don't use Moto Assist.
My issue basically has been with listening to music/radio from my phone. Streaming radio from Tune In Radio Pro dropped my battery about 10% in 20 minutes with the screen on (I was texting and reading emails on the bus while listening to it). The phone was definitely hot to the touch. If I disable internet and do the same thing with Google Play music and local storage, the battery is slightly better but still drops significantly. Again, the phone ends up feeling like it's running hot. I looked at the CPU states under Bettery Battery Stats and the phone was at fairly high clock speeds (20% 1.73 GHz, 5% 2.65 GHz). I don't know if this was the definitive way to establish this.
Here's the kicker though. I enabled Android's battery saver option (it says it basically disabled sync, vibrate, and throttles the CPU) and have been running radio/music with FAR better battery drain. Like barely a percent or 2 in a half hour. I know that with sync disabled I would expect better battery too but the phone isn't hot and it wasn't always like this.
I'm running Computer Freak's 1.2.6 unlocked ROM. I guess my main question would be could I selectively choose power save features (i.e. CPU throttling WITHOUT disabling sync, vibrate, etc.) or is there any way to figure out why these apps end up making the phone run hot? Thanks!
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You could try messing around with Kernel Adiutor from the Play Store to control throttling.

Thanks guys I'll give those suggestions a shot and see how it works. I also did reflash my rom and modules and that seemed to help slightly as far as the overheating for today at least.

vahx129 said:
Thanks guys I'll give those suggestions a shot and see how it works. I also did reflash my rom and modules and that seemed to help slightly as far as the overheating for today at least.
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You might also want to constantly check for updates every week or so.
Also take advantage of the AMOLED screen to save battery i.e. use black themed apps, themes, wallpapers. Avoid white backgrounds wherever possible, avoid using the phone at max brightness (that'll kill your screen very fast.)

Hey any updates? I am running unrooted and have been noticing after I open certain apps my phone starts heating up and the battery draining. I haven't had much time to do troubleshooting but it seems that certain apps, not sure yet which ones, have runaway loops that end up eating up the processor and draining the battery. I am willing to root if I have to to solve this, but would prefer not to. Let me know if you have found anything out.