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[q] help! Can't clear phone data

Ok, long story short, I have 113MB of 'system data' in my /datadata folder (66% full), and I want it gone.
But I can't get rid of it... I've tried a full clean install, I've tried manually formatting /datadata from CWM, and I've also tried formatting boot, cache, data, datadata, and system from CWM followed by a fresh install (Kang 12/17).
My wife has the same phone and ROM and she only has 26% full in /datadata. I can't - for the life of me - figure out how to completely clean /datadata.
One thing I noticed in terminal emulator is that the data in /data and /datadata is about equal to what is listed in /system. However, formatting /system did not clear it out.
Please help as this is driving me insane!

Isn't datadata based on your apps? Like dalvik? I think ur wife just has less apps.

mbc663 said:
Isn't datadata based on your apps? Like dalvik? I think ur wife just has less apps.
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I thought so to, but even with no apps (nothing but what comes with the ROM) I have 3x what she has... and she has what comes with the ROM plus all her other apps.
If it does have to do exclusively with the apps, I'm more than willing to do everything step by step to figure out which app(s) cause my issue, but in order to do that I need to be able to clear the folder of everything except what true system data is necessary and start from square 1.

/datadata is apps settings and data. A little more info might help...

b-eock said:
/datadata is apps settings and data. A little more info might help...
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What kind of info do you need, and I'll try and supply it. I'm trying to do a clean install so that all of those app settings and data are starting from scratch. Factory resets didn't do it, formatting the folders through CWM didn't do it...
I must be missing something... but I can't figure out what it is.
Some basic background:
Most recently on the 12/17 Kang (CM7.2 RC0) with the glitch v13 (2.6.35.13) kernel and Gapps 08/28
For the just completed testing I only flashed Gapps (08/28) and the 12/17 Kang so I could see if anything I did worked on clearing /datadata.
Other than that, the only modification I've done to my phone is the modem is KG3 i9000.

Have u tried Titanium Backup Pro app ??

4-2ndtwin said:
Have u tried Titanium Backup Pro app ??
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I haven't... I have the free version currently. Would the pro version do all of this stuff?

The free version should do for deleting data and removing apps.
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I'll go out out on a limb here but try backing up your sd card and formatting it?

mbc663 said:
I'll go out out on a limb here but try backing up your sd card and formatting it?
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I had thought of that too... once formatted and I reinstall the ROM and stuff, is it easy enough to just copy those folders back on the phone? That was the one thing I was worried about... and thus I hadn't tried yet.
Formatting always makes me nervous

Are you encountering any issues with it being that full? Or is this just to satisfy your ocd?

theyurtingyeti said:
I had thought of that too... once formatted and I reinstall the ROM and stuff, is it easy enough to just copy those folders back on the phone? That was the one thing I was worried about... and thus I hadn't tried yet.
Formatting always makes me nervous
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As simple as dragging and dropping files. Also nice to start fresh every once in a while to clear out junk from old apps.

I'm getting ready to format my SDcard and start all over... but if I format my SD card, I'll no longer have my ROM zips there to flash. I put the ROMs on my external SD card (emmc), but in CWM I can't mount emmc to make sure they are there to flash when I format my SDCard...
How do I get my ROM flashed again once I format my SD card?
EDIT:
Doing more research it appears that I should be able to format my SD card w/o losing my ROM as long as I leave my boot and system folders alone.
So, if I format /data, /datadata, and /sdcard I should be able to reboot and see if it worked

studacris said:
Are you encountering any issues with it being that full? Or is this just to satisfy your ocd?
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I am encountering issues with it being that full. I have like 70 apps with approx 38MB of data taken up... combined with the large amount of 'system data' in the /datadata partition I'm running into the issues when that folder gets to 90% capacity.
It's at the point that I can't install new apps that save any data at all or I will have to constantly shuffle which apps can save their data. Doing research I found that the 172MB cap shouldn't be an issue unless you are hording apps... I have a small number of apps with a small amount of data, so things should be better

Thanks for all the suggestions...
But so far nothing has worked.
I formatted the SD card along with data and datadata and rebooted the phone.
My /datadata folder was still listed at 66% full. So formatting nearly everything still couldn't clear this folder.
I'm still boggled why the other captivate started with 8MB system data and I start with 113MB, both on a clean install...
Perhaps my only hope is to clear stuff out again and flash ICS and hope that something is different enough that this 'problem' goes away...

An additional thought
Would I be able to delete the /datadata folder through Root Explorer, reboot into recovery and reflash the ROM?
I would assume the ROM will repartition the phone correctly. System data can't exist in a folder that doesn't exist - right?

SD Card Cleaned when flash rom, Space still being USED

So I know when flashing roms sometimes it will erase the SD Card, Okay well I forgot about 5 pictures I had taken and was like oh well, so when I went to go load all my stuff back on it, My SD card is empty but it says 6GB is being used, which is about right what it was but there are NO files on it... Where are the files??? Using Root explorer and show hidden stuff on the computer still dont know where the files are at....

did you flash a 4.2 rom?

I wanted to try out cm mod. Then went back to stock 4.2.2 I don't care if I lost some stuff. But its Stikl there but I can't see it.
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i know that your suppose to wipe before flashing a 4.2 rom.
the file system is in a different spot so it leaves the old system there.
I do not know how to get back the free space beside formating and reflashing the system.

xile6 said:
i know that your suppose to wipe before flashing a 4.2 rom.
the file system is in a different spot so it leaves the old system there.
I do not know how to get back the free space beside formating and reflashing the system.
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Ive already formatted system and it still shows stuff stored there.

Not to sure then.
Only had the phone for a week so haven't gotten use to the file system yet.
I just know it's set up different from other phones.

I had the same experience also... what I did was I went to CWM recovery and format /sdcard and I did wipe user data/factory reset...
This was happened when I flashed 4.2.2 onto 4.1.2 without wiping anything....

transfer everything from your sdcard to your computer then format sdcard in cwm and transfer your files back and they should be in the right place

Ive got the same problem. Stock rom never rooted, "OTHER" in storage taking up 6.7GB.
I have looked at clearing junk files with CLEAN MASTER app but my cache files only takes up 33mb.
Did anyone look what "OTHER" in storage was when they got their brand new phone? Does Sense 5 really takes up over 6GB?
EDIT:
A few people confirmed that the phone have about 26GB of space out of 32GB brand new, so yeah Sense 5 DOES take about 6GB of space!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265598

[Q] How much used Storage in 'other' on HTC one

Hi
I'm very new to Android. I just flashed ARHD 4.3 to my rooted HTC one. Before that it was on rooted stock 4.1.2. Now, when I look at the 'other' section in storage in my settings info I have over 7gb of data in there.
Before I flashed ARHD, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, performed factory wipe, formatted data, system and cache. I was pretty thorough.(I even formatted my sd/data and lost root so I had to to adb Sideload superSU and adb sideload my ROM from my pc - not sure if I needed to sideload superSU but it seemed the right thing to do but yes, I'm still learning!)
Anyway, my question is how much data should be in Storage, Other on a 32GB Htc one? 7gb seems too much. Have I not wiped something? Is there possibly an issue with flashing that ROM. I don't seem to be able to post in that forum as I'm noob, so I'm asking here.
Thanks in advance...

showingcatches said:
Hi
I'm very new to Android. I just flashed ARHD 4.3 to my rooted HTC one. Before that it was on rooted stock 4.1.2. Now, when I look at the 'other' section in storage in my settings info I have over 7gb of data in there.
Before I flashed ARHD, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, performed factory wipe, formatted data, system and cache. I was pretty thorough.(I even formatted my sd/data and lost root so I had to to adb Sideload superSU and adb sideload my ROM from my pc - not sure if I needed to sideload superSU but it seemed the right thing to do but yes, I'm still learning!)
Anyway, my question is how much data should be in Storage, Other on a 32GB Htc one? 7gb seems too much. Have I not wiped something? Is there possibly an issue with flashing that ROM. I don't seem to be able to post in that forum as I'm noob, so I'm asking here.
Thanks in advance...
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This is my situation now.. I have the 32gb model and im using AndroidRev 20.2. i JUST flashed from 20.1 yesterday and did a wipe of dalvik, and a regular wipe, i didnt do the extra steps you did but now i have 15gb in other being used. it SHOULD be around 6 or less because i have a couple apks and Roms(PSP,NDS,PS1) not "ROMS" being held in my phone. I was going to back up all system data and user apps with titanium back up data but now its saying "insuffiecient free storage". I have 11 gb of storage left. Should I just copy all files to my computer from the SD? I also would like to know how to wipe away as much data and storage as possible without removing ADR 20.2

showingcatches said:
Hi
I'm very new to Android. I just flashed ARHD 4.3 to my rooted HTC one. Before that it was on rooted stock 4.1.2. Now, when I look at the 'other' section in storage in my settings info I have over 7gb of data in there.
Before I flashed ARHD, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, performed factory wipe, formatted data, system and cache. I was pretty thorough.(I even formatted my sd/data and lost root so I had to to adb Sideload superSU and adb sideload my ROM from my pc - not sure if I needed to sideload superSU but it seemed the right thing to do but yes, I'm still learning!)
Anyway, my question is how much data should be in Storage, Other on a 32GB Htc one? 7gb seems too much. Have I not wiped something? Is there possibly an issue with flashing that ROM. I don't seem to be able to post in that forum as I'm noob, so I'm asking here.
Thanks in advance...
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7GB of reserved space sounds about right. I also have only 25.49GB of free storage after a full format.
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Spidakid said:
This is my situation now.. I have the 32gb model and im using AndroidRev 20.2. i JUST flashed from 20.1 yesterday and did a wipe of dalvik, and a regular wipe, i didnt do the extra steps you did but now i have 15gb in other being used. it SHOULD be around 6 or less because i have a couple apks and Roms(PSP,NDS,PS1) not "ROMS" being held in my phone. I was going to back up all system data and user apps with titanium back up data but now its saying "insuffiecient free storage". I have 11 gb of storage left. Should I just copy all files to my computer from the SD? I also would like to know how to wipe away as much data and storage as possible without removing ADR 20.2
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Change the TiBu backup folder in preferences
MENU -> Preferences -> Backup folder location -> Detect! -> Whole Device
It should find one in "/storage/emulated/legacy/<backup folder>", select that one. That should fix the insufficient space bug.

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nkk71 said:
7GB of reserved space sounds about right. I also have only 25.49GB of free storage after a full format.
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Oh OK. Thanks for letting me know. If I have no sideloaded apps,Titanium or nandroid backups, any ideas what this used 7gb might be?

showingcatches said:
Oh OK. Thanks for letting me know. If I have no sideloaded apps,Titanium or nandroid backups, any ideas what this used 7gb might be?
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Don't forget your phone does need an operating system to work.

showingcatches said:
Oh OK. Thanks for letting me know. If I have no sideloaded apps,Titanium or nandroid backups, any ideas what this used 7gb might be?
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Not really. I also find it a bit on the high side, but I guess the OS needs it

deeevan said:
Don't forget your phone does need an operating system to work.
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Yep. Only ARHD is 1gb as a zip. I'm just confused as to why it unpacks to so big.
nkk71 said:
Not really. I also find it a bit on the high side, but I guess the OS needs it
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Ok, thanks anyway.

i tried to do the "scan whole device" thing with Titanium Backup and it still didnt work. I might have to completely wipe the whole phone :crying:.
Would i have to re-unlock the boot loader and re-root?

Spidakid said:
i tried to do the "scan whole device" thing with Titanium Backup and it still didnt work. I might have to completely wipe the whole phone :crying:.
Would i have to re-unlock the boot loader and re-root?
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What was the result of "detect", didn't it give you two locations for the backups
In either case, you won't need to re-unlock or re-root, worst case you format your sd-card (ie internal storage) using recovery. Don't forget to backup your pictures, music, etc to your PC first.
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Nah man all I get is "there's no backup location" but yeah I'll just super wipe everything. After I back up my music etc.
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[Q] I'm out of free space, but how??

I'm running Kitkat 4.4.2 from insertcoin. The Storage space is 25.4gb, and I'm using 16gb of it, but my phone says I'm out of free space. I tried Clearing out all my data from my SD, and it still said my SD had about 10gb in use. I'm thinking maybe its some system data, but what part of the OS could be taking up 10gb?
Also, I've got some sort of audio dump going on under /Data/Audio that I have to keep deleting through android commander. how can I turn off the auto audio dump?

You have any nandroid backups? Each of those, including data, will be around 2-3 gb. In TWRP they are in a folder in the TWRP directory. Don't know about CWM.
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I move all my backups to my PC...

bbmaster123 said:
I move all my backups to my PC...
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This happened to me once. The way I dealt with it was I transferred all of my important files (e.g. pics, vids, nands, etc) to my computer, then formatted the internal storage and installed a fresh ROM.

and its still okay? I tried that about a week ago, but I didn't flash a fresh rom, I just reformatted the storage partition and I gained about 6gb, which has now disappeared.

Try a few storage apps from Playstore.. I can't recommend something but there are a few which will get you a good idea.

reinstalling the ROM seems to have fixed my problem, but now I've got a new problem. I guess I should make a new thread for it though. thanks for the help!

SaHiLzZ said:
Try a few storage apps from Playstore.. I can't recommend something but there are a few which will get you a good idea.
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try downloading diskusage from the playstore. it should give you a pretty accurate view of your completely usage and where its coming from and then you can go about clearing space up

TWRP Quickie

I've been wanting to ask this question forever, but havent and just dealt with it. Never experimented either.
When using TWRP to flash a new rom do i have to wipe my internal storage? Does that really ruin the flash? Again, never tried it id just rather ask. Its annoying to transfer my music and large files. Every time i flash a new rom i wipe everything and have to move the 12 gigs of files i enjoy using on my phone pretty often. So if i dont have to wipe them out every time that would be awesome to know.

Nope.

OcazPrime said:
I've been wanting to ask this question forever, but havent and just dealt with it. Never experimented either.
When using TWRP to flash a new rom do i have to wipe my internal storage? Does that really ruin the flash? Again, never tried it id just rather ask. Its annoying to transfer my music and large files. Every time i flash a new rom i wipe everything and have to move the 12 gigs of files i enjoy using on my phone pretty often. So if i dont have to wipe them out every time that would be awesome to know.
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I've never wiped my internal storage when flashing a new rom

sakumaxp said:
I've never wiped my internal storage when flashing a new rom
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+1 never wiped my internal storage

It's definitely not needed to wipe internal storage, nor do I recommend so; at least not every time. Some folks like to wipe it once in a while, to get rid of extraneous folders and files created by some custom ROMs, old (no longer used) apps, etc. Some folks might even do it frequently, but that is just their obsessiveness. But it's definitely not a requirement to do so.
I've flashed dozens and dozens (maybe hundreds) of ROMs on various Android devices over the years. I've never once wiped internal storage when doing so, that I can recall.
Think about it, on this device the internal storage is the only place TWRP can create a backup (since there is no removable SD slot). So if you made a backup before flashing a ROM (which I highly recommend), then wiped internal storage (to flash the ROM) you would be wiping out the backup you just made. Sure, you can copy a TWRP backup to your computer, than move it back to the phone after you wipe. But that is just a lot of hoops to jump through for little reason, and really not how the TWRP backup/restore feature is intended to be used.
If you look at the TWRP wipe screen, the default wipe just consists of user data (apps and settings ... /media is not touched), cache and Dalvik. And it says right there on the screen that most of the time, this is the only wipe you will need. It says that for a reason. Some folks may choose to go above and beyond, but that is just their choice (again, not a requirement).
On the other hand, it is good to routinely backup any files on your internal storage (that are important to you) to an off-phone location like your computer or cloud. Just in case something gets wipe unintentionally. But you can for the most part, save yourself the steps of wiping internal data and moving those files back to your phone every time you flash a ROM.