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Finding reasons for reboots

Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
EDIT: Ghardashyan a bit lower mentioned hes been having reboots when watching youtube videos. Anybody else having this kind of behavior? Also, I had my reboot when watching trailers in the IMDB app - its playing via youtube, right?

The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???

CrazyPeter said:
The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???
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I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.

michalurban said:
I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.
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Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.

Wilks3y said:
Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.
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Just for your information, I dont use HD Widgets

Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

ajhn said:
Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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I know that, but as it was one reboot only in less than a week, it could take months to track the app down ... :laugh: Im about to restart the device myself and then use alogrec to continually record stuff.
EDIT: Alogrec is not recording a thing, so I rooted my phone. In case of restart, I believe it should be enough to save last_kmsg. Am I right?

michalurban said:
Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
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I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.

ghardashyan said:
I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.
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I had my reboot when watching IMDB trailers - which also are on youtube, am I right??
BTW Is your problem repeatable? Eg. is there any time watching youtube that quarantees reboot? Id like to check that ... And are you using the youtube app?

REALLY?
Check out the thread 4.2 Random reboots instead of making new threads.
Sent from my GT-I9100

Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

najaboy said:
Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?

michalurban said:
Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?
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Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

najaboy said:
Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Great, thanks. :good: I disabled that for now and will turn it on only when I need navigation. I dont use Google Now anyway.
BTW, when Google finds a solution for this, should I expect a full system upgrade?

Just experienced my first random reboot while streaming a flash video on Firefox Beta..

Random reboots are annoying me as well with my stock unrooted n7
Mostly though its during wifi/network activity not just in one app, have had reboots while in youtube, ebay, chrome etc. I have also seen it reboot while in standby
All started from 4.2
Would be interested to know if these reboots are reported back to google?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

My Nexus 7 has 38 days uptime, only thing "special" I've done is I've disabled lockscreen widgets:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.deviceadminkeyguard
Stock 4.2.1, rooted.

[PSA]Using Xposed causes LAG!

If you are using Xposed framework on the Note 4, Secure storage will fail to process and save data, which leads to a Sensor service hangs, which causes the laggy experience some of you have been having.
This was an issue back on the S5, it is fixed by using this module XSecureStorage by @wanam or disabling S Health.
However from what I have heard this doesn't fix Private Mode.

just to clairfy...mine is laggy all the time. I am probably wrong considering it is 830am but it said s-health and private mode only...does that mean that module will only fix the lag
when using s-health?

installed XSecureStorage but S health still hang. it's really a difficult decision: use xposed for full control, or uninstall xposed for smoother operations...

RomBox said:
installed XSecureStorage but S health still hang. it's really a difficult decision: use xposed for full control, or uninstall xposed for smoother operations...
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What if you "freeze" S health using ROM Toolbox?. Does it still cause problems?

are you using ART or DALVIK as your runtime?

Shtihi said:
are you using ART or DALVIK as your runtime?
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You can't use Xposed with ART yet.

Batfink33 said:
What if you "freeze" S health using ROM Toolbox?. Does it still cause problems?
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disabled S Health use TB and installed xposed back, so far no lag noticed...

Got my Note 4 last night, and it lagged right away straight out of the box.
If you boys are only getting lag after installing Xposed you're lucky!!! lol
Although I was planning to install it, I might think twice after your thread. How bad is it exactly?
For example my settings always stutters if I open it and start trying to scroll straight away. If I wait a couple of seconds, it's usually fine.
Same goes for pressing recently used apps button, and scrolling through the card stack. If I give it a second it's ok, but if I try straight away it's lag city.
So far I've found 0 difference between the Note 4 and the S4. Maybe I'm just unlucky!

prophet42 said:
Got my Note 4 last night, and it lagged right away straight out of the box.
If you boys are only getting lag after installing Xposed you're lucky!!! lol
Although I was planning to install it, I might think twice after your thread. How bad is it exactly?
For example my settings always stutters if I open it and start trying to scroll straight away. If I wait a couple of seconds, it's usually fine.
Same goes for pressing recently used apps button, and scrolling through the card stack. If I give it a second it's ok, but if I try straight away it's lag city.
So far I've found 0 difference between the Note 4 and the S4. Maybe I'm just unlucky!
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TRY THIS I hope this helps as much as myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXtjgrfgEY

asia559571 said:
TRY THIS I hope this helps as much as myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXtjgrfgEY
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First think I did out the box =)
Along with removing touchwiz, switching off certain google now features (such as "OK Google" detection), and removing flipboard.
Always slowed the animations down since the days of the Galaxy S 3. S Voice and health are the first things I remove since the S5.
It helps a little, but unfortuntely the lag is still there (well unless I leave it a split second for it to load).
But that's something I can live with. Thanks anyway. Anyone who doesn't done it, it will help.
Although one interesting side effect is the accessability options mess up, so now the calculator talks to me lol.
But hopefully that will be addressed soon. There are other threads on that subject.

Wanam xposed module already has these functions built in. Been using it since day 1. No need for a separate module guys

badwolf94 said:
If you are using Xposed framework on the Note 4, Secure storage will fail to process and save data, which leads to a Sensor service hangs, which causes the laggy experience some of you have been having.
This was an issue back on the S5, it is fixed by using this module XSecureStorage by @wanam or disabling S Health.
However from what I have heard this doesn't fix Private Mode.
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I don't know but I think you are posting wrong information.
I've been using xposed and secure storage on FireKat without any lagging or secure storage issues.
My Note runs buttery smooth and 100% stable since day one.
Cheers ?
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Rayan said:
I don't know but I think you are posting wrong information.
I've been using xposed and secure storage on FireKat without any lagging or secure storage issues.
My Note runs buttery smooth and 100% stable since day one.
Cheers ?
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
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If you are running a custom rom chances are the dev has already fixed the issue by editing the buildprop to secure storage support false

sawdoctor said:
If you are running a custom rom chances are the dev has already fixed the issue by editing the buildprop to secure storage support false
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Yeah this pretty much, the thread was made back when Note 4 first came out and their wasn't any custom ROMS available. All of the ROMS to-date have the necessary fixes enabled.

I have both private mode and S Health running without any problems or lag. Running Firekat v. 8, Xposed. Disabling secure storage in Xposed is the key.

sawdoctor said:
If you are running a custom rom chances are the dev has already fixed the issue by editing the buildprop to secure storage support false
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I wish it was as simple as editing the Build.prop file... But no, for some reason DynamicKat's Secure Storage does not work for me even though it comes with the required settings on build.prop
No matter what I throw at it, paches, fixes, editing build.prop, disabling SHealth, xposed modules, etc, it simply refuses to work.
But the good thing is that at least on Firekat it does work flawlessly as I've mentioned before.
Cheers!

wipe cache and data of s health in app settings, you will have it running again, I have no lags

May have a fix for the random lagginess but requires root

Just want to compare to others as of what I may have found. After rooting my watch and installing the custom rom from janjan I was still getting the random lag. I decided to try my hand at removing a few apps just in case it could be one of the of those. I removed a few apps installed by my phone as I don't use them but the lag was still there. Lastly I removed the zenwatch manager (the app used for some custom watch faces and a few features that are not all that super useful). After removing this I have not noticed any more random slow downs. Will report back after a few more days but I think that this may solve the random lag issue.

Only beware; you'll lose the upper and lower button functionality.

re: disabling zenwatch manager
nicolahinssen said:
Only beware; you'll lose the upper and lower button functionality.
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That's the first thing I thought of too but after disabling zenwatch manager
by freezing it on my S7 Edge phone both of the programmable buttons still
worked fine and remain programmable.
I even checked to see if I can still re-assign the top and bottom buttons and
found that I could just like before I froze zenwatch manager.
After freezing zenwatch manager I still have the zenwatch manager icon in my watch along
with all the other apps but when clicking on it it tells me to install zenwatch manager so I
know that after freezing it it no longer is functioning on my watch.
So far I can tell the difference before&after freezing/disabling zenwatch manager and I have
found that I can feel and see the difference and it is true that without zenwatch manager the
watch is noticeably faster and quicker without any lag or stuttering.
My zenwatch 3 also suffered from a lot of random lag, stuttering and unresponsiveness
before I froze/disabled zenwatch manager. My watch is not rooted and I am not using twrp.
It's 100% stock waiting patiently for the Android Wear 2.0 update.
@texanman is right about zenwatch manager.
Have a great day!

I had switch to an old iphone, while I'm waiting for my new one to come and paired the watch. Now the watch is flying, no lag at all, everythings is super smooth. So weird...
I'll try this when I switch back to android. Should I install Zenwatch Manager and then disabling it ? Or is it working too if I just not install it ?

re: zenwatch Manager
Habaddon said:
I had switch to an old iphone, while I'm waiting for my new one to come and paired the watch. Now the watch is flying, no lag at all, everythings is super smooth. So weird...
I'll try this when I switch back to android. Should I install Zenwatch Manager and then disabling it ? Or is it working too if I just not install it ?
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Zenwatch Manager has never been a requirement, it's an optional add-on.
It can be installed before or after setting up the watch, it does not matter.
Good luck, have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
Zenwatch Manager has never been a requirement, it's an optional add-on.
It can be installed before or after setting up the watch, it does not matter.
Good luck, have a great day!
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Ok I tried it, is the remap button app linked to zenwatch manager ? It wasn't appearing until I installed it. So I uninstall it after and reboot, now it feel snapier than before on android, thx

re: zenwatch manager
Habaddon said:
Ok I tried it, is the remap button app linked to zenwatch manager ? It wasn't appearing until I installed it. So I uninstall it after and reboot, now it feel snapier than before on android, thx
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You are right, zenwatch manager did contain the required firmware patch for the remap buttons
and the first time we installed the updated zenwatch manager it flashed the firmware patch to
the watch's firmware get the two remap'able buttons to work.
Once zenwatch manager flashed the remap button patch there is no more
need for zenwatch manager for that purpose.
Android Wear 2.0 will not need zenwatch manager for the firmware patch
because the new v2.0 firmware will already have the remap feature in it.
Good luck, have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
You are right, zenwatch manager did contain the required firmware patch for the remap buttons
and the first time we installed the updated zenwatch manager it flashed the firmware patch to
the watch's firmware get the two remap'able buttons to work.
Once zenwatch manager flashed the remap button patch there is no more
need for zenwatch manager for that purpose.
Android Wear 2.0 will not need zenwatch manager for the firmware patch
because the new v2.0 firmware will already have the remap feature in it.
Good luck, have a great day!
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We have to wait and actually see what Asus did to 2.0. I would not jump to conclusion just yet, even if it is highly possible the stock remapping function could be there.
And the zw manager is not needed for remapping to work. First time you push any button the button remap app will show up

re: rooting
texanman said:
Just want to compare to others as of what I may have found. After rooting my watch and installing the custom rom from janjan I was still getting the random lag. I decided to try my hand at removing a few apps just in case it could be one of the of those. I removed a few apps installed by my phone as I don't use them but the lag was still there. Lastly I removed the zenwatch manager (the app used for some custom watch faces and a few features that are not all that super useful). After removing this I have not noticed any more random slow downs. Will report back after a few more days but I think that this may solve the random lag issue.
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I already booted and installed twrp recovery, so far all the rooting instructions that I have
read all say that after rooting we will still not get a writeable /system which means it will
not be possible to edit the build--prop file or any other file which is located in /system .
How did you root your watch? - Did you use any of the methods outlined here in this
xda zenwatch 3 forum? - If you have used any of the methods here in this forum did
you check if /system is read and writable ?
Thanks in advance.

Just a note...
I disabled the ASUS Manager but was still laggy.
Used "Advanced settings" app to clear all data in ASUS Manager
Lagginess FINALLY gone
Hopefully it will stay that way

Any way to apply this fix to AW 2.0? I mean i did what @WaxysDargle did but i still see stutters and lag (especially when using play music).

thagabe said:
Any way to apply this fix to AW 2.0? I mean i did what @WaxysDargle did but i still see stutters and lag (especially when using play music).
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i did this on 2.0.
make sure to disable the app, force stop it and then clear all the data. you may need to force stop and clear data a couple of times

I also found that adjusting the animation scale from 1x to 0.5X or none helps. this is under the developer options settings.

WaxysDargle said:
i did this on 2.0.
make sure to disable the app, force stop it and then clear all the data. you may need to force stop and clear data a couple of times
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so disabling the app also disables the watchfaces and the "dock mode" face, right? at least this did for me. I'm fine using watchmaker, but would like to keep the night time dock screen.
is there a way to enable this after disabling the app?
thanks!

jco23 said:
so disabling the app also disables the watchfaces and the "dock mode" face, right? at least this did for me. I'm fine using watchmaker, but would like to keep the night time dock screen.
is there a way to enable this after disabling the app?
thanks!
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i believe this is the case for me too. i actually lost all of my watch faces.
i have no idea if what you are asking is possible, but i seriously doubt it. you might be able to find an APK somehwere and sideload it for the watchface only.
personally, i forgot all about the watch faces when the laginess vanished. watch was unusable out of the box.

Do you all recommend disabling the Zen Manager app on your phone or on your watch (or both)?
Hoping to get better performance.
Thanks!

jpzsports said:
Do you all recommend disabling the Zen Manager app on your phone or on your watch (or both)?
Hoping to get better performance.
Thanks!
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from my understanding, the ZM app on the phone is NOT required.
as I mentioned earlier, I tried disabling the app on the watch, but did not see any difference.
i'm going to try some other settings adjustments (including disabling the fitness app) to see if that helps.
also trying to disable "smart reply" and just keep "ok google" enabled.

I tried all of these things and none of them had a significant impact on the watch's responsiveness or speed.
The thing that finally fixed my lag was editing build.prop and changing debug.composition.type to gpu in the two places it appears. I also changed ro.core_ctl_min_cpu from 2 to 4, removed zenfit from /system/apps, and disabled Zenwatch Manager from the watch (couldn't find an apk for it on the filesystem). The gpu parameter fixed the lag - it's just about completely gone and the UI is about as smooth as my Moto 360 v2, and I think the min CPU setting is responsible for significantly speeding up actions like launching assistant.
I've been meaning to post a writeup but haven't had the time. Two threads that were extremely helpful are this one and this one (linked to from the first). The only downside to following these instructions is I get a warning about the OS not being validated because dm-verify is turned off. Not sure if I can turn it back on with a modified build.prop, but I'm not concerned because I finally have a smooth, properly functioning watch.

saturnspike said:
I tried all of these things and none of them had a significant impact on the watch's responsiveness or speed.
The thing that finally fixed my lag was editing build.prop and changing debug.composition.type to gpu in the two places it appears. I also changed ro.core_ctl_min_cpu from 2 to 4, removed zenfit from /system/apps, and disabled Zenwatch Manager from the watch (couldn't find an apk for it on the filesystem). The gpu parameter fixed the lag - it's just about completely gone and the UI is about as smooth as my Moto 360 v2, and I think the min CPU setting is responsible for significantly speeding up actions like launching assistant.
I've been meaning to post a writeup but haven't had the time. Two threads that were extremely helpful are this one and this one (linked to from the first). The only downside to following these instructions is I get a warning about the OS not being validated because dm-verify is turned off. Not sure if I can turn it back on with a modified build.prop, but I'm not concerned because I finally have a smooth, properly functioning watch.
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Editing the build.prop on the phone or watch? And if so, I presume you have rooted the watch?
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I didn't root. Fundamentally all you need to do is get the watch booted into twrp one time so you can mount /system, adb pull build.prop, make the edits I mentioned, then adb push it back and reboot.

Android Pie problem on my note9

Hello guys. I just intalled official pie update that came yesterday on my phone via OTA.
However I forgot to uninstall goodlock 2018 (im from EU and therefore its not officialy available) I had navstar (I added different buttons) and task changer turned on.
After installing Pie, these features are no longer available on my phone (in good lock app they appear blocked and I cant update them).
BUT since they were not turned off, now im stuck with them and I cant turn it off (the buttons from navstar are still there even after uninstal). I tried uninstalling but they still apear.
The result is that its now crashing with Pie ONE UI and experience home keeps crashing. I have temporarily added different launcher and its works, but if I go back to home experience, it starts lagging and crashing again.
What can I do? Can I officialy revert back to oreo, remove goodlock and then install pie again? Or is there other way to do it?
I have once heard that you must never uninstall goodlock features without turning them off first because they cause problems afterwards and it seems this is the case here.
Would appreciate any help here, the phone with default home experience launcher is useless because of crashing.

you could try a factory reset....

PorscheCarrera said:
Hello guys. I just intalled official pie update that came yesterday on my phone via OTA.
However I forgot to uninstall goodlock 2018 (im from EU and therefore its not officialy available) I had navstar (I added different buttons) and task changer turned on.
After installing Pie, these features are no longer available on my phone (in good lock app they appear blocked and I cant update them).
BUT since they were not turned off, now im stuck with them and I cant turn it off (the buttons from navstar are still there even after uninstal). I tried uninstalling but they still apear.
The result is that its now crashing with Pie ONE UI and experience home keeps crashing. I have temporarily added different launcher and its works, but if I go back to home experience, it starts lagging and crashing again.
What can I do? Can I officialy revert back to oreo, remove goodlock and then install pie again? Or is there other way to do it?
I have once heard that you must never uninstall goodlock features without turning them off first because they cause problems afterwards and it seems this is the case here.
Would appreciate any help here, the phone with default home experience launcher is useless because of crashing.
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I had good lock too with nearly all mods being used and switched on, after update, other than my phone looking like crap, it's not caused any actual issues like you describe.
I don't use navstar though and I use ruthless launcher so maybe that's why.
Have you uninstalled each individual module? Rather than just the good lock app itself?
If so your only options are either wait for good lock to be updated, or a factory reset, I say a reset is always best after a major version update anyway, although I can't be arsed doing that myself yet

Well it seems that deleting Home Experience data fixed the issue. Thanks for the replies though.
On side note I realy dislike new recent apps. Task changer in good lock was miles miles better. If you watched something in youtube and went into recent apps it kept playing in background, here it leaves any app and scrolling isnt nearly as smooth. Hopefuly they add it back for pie because right now I sort of regret upgrading.

After my update on AT&T yesterday, I have persistent handles on left and right as well as the edge handle that is usable in the upper left. Anyone know how to get rid of these? I tried turning off edge panels and they still show. Also I have tried the transparency trick, no good there either. Is this a known "upgrade" or a known issue? Thanks in advance.

Disable One Hand Operation + for those handles

Do any of you know how to get multi window to work? It seems to be gone.

beta546 said:
I had good lock too with nearly all mods being used and switched on, after update, other than my phone looking like crap, it's not caused any actual issues like you describe.
I don't use navstar though and I use ruthless launcher so maybe that's why.
Have you uninstalled each individual module? Rather than just the good lock app itself?
If so your only options are either wait for good lock to be updated, or a factory reset, I say a reset is always best after a major version update anyway, although I can't be arsed doing that myself yet
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What is ruthless launcher?

cushcalc said:
What is ruthless launcher?
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Well...it's a launcher, called ruthless haha. Just Google it and you'll find the XDA page, it's a branch off from the original rootless launcher, basically it's a pixel launcher but with lots of extra settings.

I am on the us carrier AT&T. I am using the snapdragon model. I took the OTA yesterday and I left goodlock 2018 installed and all the addons enabled.
I am not getting any of the issues you described. The good lock app just shows all the mods as "disconnected". One hand operation and edge lighting are still working.

raul6 said:
Disable One Hand Operation + for those handles
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Thanks mate, been scratching my head trying to get rid of those 2 bars. They were about the same height as the keyboard and pressing near a bar made it freeze for a few seconds. Cheers

Im on S8 exynos pie Beta 3. Task changer is not working. Even with badlock. Is this working for anyone of you?

Recent Apps reloading while switching all the time!

I recently bought the Honor 10 Lite and everything, from its looks to the performance has impressed me. However, I noticed a very frustrating issue with the "recent apps" function. Every time I try to switch to another app from the list, it reloads all over again instead of opening it in the way it was left.
I did my research and found that tons of other users using EMUI 9.0 or above are facing this and it is happening due to Memory Management. I found and tried all the alternative solutions like lowering the screen resolution, changing the "App Launch" settings to Manual in the battery options, disabling the apps from the "Battery Optimization" settings from the Special Access menu etc. but none of it works. Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
It seems like our phone's forum hasn't been quite active so far. Its obvious as its a new device and people are yet to find and talk about issues here. Anyway, there is surely a memory leak which is causing all this. The remaining memory is always below 1 gb which is unusual in a phone with 4 gb of RAM. And it is due to this, the apps are being reloaded in the Recent Apps list to free up more RAM! I really hope Honor will look into this and find a solution in the upcoming update!
Please share your opinion or help out if you are facing the same too. Thanks!

veezybaybee said:
Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
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If its non Chinese variant you can simply change launcher there is no need to afraid about it.And updates wont be effected.

miststudent2011 said:
If its non Chinese variant you can simply change launcher there is no need to afraid about it.And updates wont be effected.
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I have an Indian version of Honor 10 Lite. And I am using a different launcher already. So you are saying, I can disable or uninstall the stock launcher and the updates wont be affected? You sure?
I wrote about this to Honor India's official page in Facebook before few minutes. And their reply was quite typical. They wanted me to turn off the android system and transition animations to free up the ram and stuffs. I clearly told them that this was a memory management issue as others described it. But they gave me this irrelevant reply!
I just bought this phone. I mean its just been 2 days. I really dont wish to regret my decision now. The recent apps keeps reloading every time I switch them. Its ridiculous!

veezybaybee said:
I have an Indian version of Honor 10 Lite. And I am using a different launcher already. So you are saying, I can disable or uninstall the stock launcher and the updates wont be affected? You sure?
I wrote about this to Honor India's official page in Facebook before few minutes. And their reply was quite typical. They wanted me to turn off the android system and transition animations to free up the ram and stuffs. I clearly told them that this was a memory management issue as others described it. But they gave me this irrelevant reply!
I just bought this phone. I mean its just been 2 days. I really dont wish to regret my decision now. The recent apps keeps reloading every time I switch them. Its ridiculous!
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I have Honor 10 and I use different launcher other than Stock and its works fine and ota too work.

miststudent2011 said:
I have Honor 10 and I use different launcher other than Stock and its works fine and ota too work.
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Yeah, thats what I said too. I am using another launcher apart from the stock "Huawei Home". I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
A lot of people have said that uninstalling the stock launcher will free up a lot of RAM and also enable the Oreo styled recent apps card list which will solve this app reloading issue!
I just contacted the Huawei customer care and a lady advised me to record the whole issue and send the video to their service email address. I have shared this EMUI 9.0 issue faced by others as a feedback to them too. Hope they will fix this in the upcoming update!

veezybaybee said:
Yeah, thats what I said too. I am using another launcher apart from the stock "Huawei Home". I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
A lot of people have said that uninstalling the stock launcher will free up a lot of RAM and also enable the Oreo styled recent apps card list which will solve this app reloading issue!
I just contacted the Huawei customer care and a lady advised me to record the whole issue and send the video to their service email address. I have shared this EMUI 9.0 issue faced by others as a feedback to them too. Hope they will fix this in the upcoming update!
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I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
Yes, you can if any issue happens you can just reset your phone it will be back to normal.

veezybaybee said:
I recently bought the Honor 10 Lite and everything, from its looks to the performance has impressed me. However, I noticed a very frustrating issue with the "recent apps" function. Every time I try to switch to another app from the list, it reloads all over again instead of opening it in the way it was left.
I did my research and found that tons of other users using EMUI 9.0 or above are facing this and it is happening due to Memory Management. I found and tried all the alternative solutions like lowering the screen resolution, changing the "App Launch" settings to Manual in the battery options, disabling the apps from the "Battery Optimization" settings from the Special Access menu etc. but none of it works. Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
It seems like our phone's forum hasn't been quite active so far. Its obvious as its a new device and people are yet to find and talk about issues here. Anyway, there is surely a memory leak which is causing all this. The remaining memory is always below 1 gb which is unusual in a phone with 4 gb of RAM. And it is due to this, the apps are being reloaded in the Recent Apps list to free up more RAM! I really hope Honor will look into this and find a solution in the upcoming update!
Please share your opinion or help out if you are facing the same too. Thanks!
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Hey,
I can confirm this. I've got a model having 3 gb ram. I am using Microsoft Launcher and deactivated everything related to battery to test it out.
1. Closed all my apps via recent apps
2. Then I opened a folder in ES Explorer and went back to homescreen.
3. I went into gallery and watched a video for 60 seconds, back to homescreen.
4. I went into Facebook and read an article for 60 seconds.
5. Going back to Es Explorer (No matter via Homescreen or recent tabs) makes it reload completely.
This definitely is not related to not having enough RAM.
I also can't deactivate my Huawei home, it is greyed out. Right now i am seriously starting to hate that phone.

Alright I got it working more or less by uninstalling Huawei home via adb. it's not perfect (3-4 keep open mostly), but with the switch to card style in recent apps it finally feels not as sluggish as before anymore.

Muthzer the One said:
Hey,
I can confirm this. I've got a model having 3 gb ram. I am using Microsoft Launcher and deactivated everything related to battery to test it out.
1. Closed all my apps via recent apps
2. Then I opened a folder in ES Explorer and went back to homescreen.
3. I went into gallery and watched a video for 60 seconds, back to homescreen.
4. I went into Facebook and read an article for 60 seconds.
5. Going back to Es Explorer (No matter via Homescreen or recent tabs) makes it reload completely.
This definitely is not related to not having enough RAM.
I also can't deactivate my Huawei home, it is greyed out. Right now i am seriously starting to hate that phone.
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Remove battery saving mode or some apps automatically optimized by phone manager or other solution is to keep that app in app assistant or game mode. UI is made for battery optimization and ram management otherwise you have got stock android

I have this problem too! It's so annoying. The phone is perfect besidd this problem