http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...eated-on-starting-phone-each-time/td-p/819877
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2kjrev/sony_xperia_phones_come_preloaded_with_baidu/
Well this isn't good. I don't use the Sony services and can confirm I have an outbound connection to China.
pm block com.sonymobile.mx.android
Reboot
Delete the "baidu" folder manually
Reboot
I just did this but baidu is still created after reboot.
If that makes you feel better. If people want to spy you, they can do it without a problem and without you ever noticing.
Hardly a justification. It's been found. I know about it. I want it to stop. Most people who are affected seem to want it to stop.
Better than an inbound connection from China Nobody would have cared if this was connection to Google US, but China = evil. Interesting.
I trust the devil I know more than the devil I don't.
The same problem on Nexus 5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/baidu-folder-t2545185
I looked on my Galaxy S2 CM11, there is a Baidu folder too.
I don't think its a Sony problem, because: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55041302&postcount=28
Some people are saying the phones report to Baidu servers are done so this "find my phone" feature can work.
https://myxperia.sonymobile.com/signin
if that's true, i have no issues. it's cheaper to use servers in china than amazon or google servers in the western world. my company deals with this issue all the time.
Why does Enterprise Services automatically get checked as on in Security/Device Administrators on each reboot?
jamesey10 said:
it's cheaper to use servers in china than amazon or google servers in the western world.
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I guess they're using more than one path, but internet access in China ist just too restricted for some services to work reliably so they're using something they can rely on.
I'm just wondering why the "Device Usage" service always keeps running, eventhough I unchecked the checkbox to send anonymous usage data to Sony. And then there's also that "User Data Logging" service. Vague stuff.
degraaff said:
I'm just wondering why the "Device Usage" service always keeps running, eventhough I unchecked the checkbox to send anonymous usage data to Sony. And then there's also that "User Data Logging" service. Vague stuff.
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Well, one is for collecting the data and the other is for sending the data. The phone (hopefully) only sends data once you allow it. Don't get me wrong, I disable as much as possible of the (apparently) not needed stuff on my phone always, and that before I enable any WiFi or put in my SIM, I'm just trying to look at it from the programmers point of view.
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Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
mastercut said:
Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
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You mean you want to turn off the radio?
Simple method is to go to Settings -> Wireless controls -> Airplane mode. NOTE: This turns off all radios, including WiFi.
If you want a icon to do this, go to the Market and download AnyCut and make a shortcut to Airplane mode.
no not turn off the radio , just close all open connection. cuz i can't see if there's some connection open !!!!!!
A little more description on your dilema would be apreciated.
Who charged you 55 euros?
Are you talking about data transmissions?
If your phone is on and you have service with some provider AND haven't installed any apps that require streaming data, you should not have any "open connections" as you say.
mastercut said:
no not turn off the radio , just close all open connection. cuz i can't see if there's some connection open !!!!!!
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anycut to 'phone info' might help.
'service viewer' in marketplace, but without root cant kill ;{
mastercut said:
Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
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No need for a task manager as the device closes programs on its own.
To disable all data connections use anycut to phone info (like said above) and then menu -> more and you can disable data connection for just that time or disable it on boot to disable forever.
If you were charged 55 euros for using data then you need to get a different phone as this phone is meant for an always on connection so it is connected 24/7
Well I have the same issue. There are no affordable dataplan in the country I live in so letting any application use as much network as it feels like is not an option.
Sadly the phone does not have a way to control who's allowed to use the radio/network or anything for that matter past the installation time. So if pong3d has been installed with full network access you're screwed it can wake up at any time and start streaming whatever it wants from and to your phone. It can even clog your bandwidth and make your browsing suck.
I understand the whole fully connected device thing, but I still think this is a major flaw as users end-up with limited control over what application is doing what. There should be a way to disable data connection, like disabling wifi.
And ultimately there should be a way to manage the permission of the various app. I want to run pong3d but there is no way I'm giving it Contact Access and SMS access and "service that cost you money". Or I want a fair warning "accept/deny" whenever the application tries...
It also happens that people travel (like me) to other countries. And when traveling I use local pre-paid SIM card to avoid roaming fees. I don't need gtalk and MarioSimulator (yeah it does check for update when you launch it) to burn through my credit just because they think they can.
Since we had networking on phone they have been asking you if you wanted to allow the application to connect "Always/Never/Just this time". If Android expect to be used on other devices (so other providers, other countries, other dataplan) that feature will be needed. And the all or nothing attitude towards permissions when installing an app must be changed.
In the mean time, I suggest the original poster do what I do.. Delete all your APN settings and re-add them when needed. In my case just changing one letter in the APN seems to be enough.
my 2p.
mrboyd said:
Well I have the same issue. There are no affordable dataplan in the country I live in so letting any application use as much network as it feels like is not an option.
Sadly the phone does not have a way to control who's allowed to use the radio/network or anything for that matter past the installation time. So if pong3d has been installed with full network access you're screwed it can wake up at any time and start streaming whatever it wants from and to your phone. It can even clog your bandwidth and make your browsing suck.
I understand the whole fully connected device thing, but I still think this is a major flaw as users end-up with limited control over what application is doing what. There should be a way to disable data connection, like disabling wifi.
And ultimately there should be a way to manage the permission of the various app. I want to run pong3d but there is no way I'm giving it Contact Access and SMS access and "service that cost you money". Or I want a fair warning "accept/deny" whenever the application tries...
It also happens that people travel (like me) to other countries. And when traveling I use local pre-paid SIM card to avoid roaming fees. I don't need gtalk and MarioSimulator (yeah it does check for update when you launch it) to burn through my credit just because they think they can.
Since we had networking on phone they have been asking you if you wanted to allow the application to connect "Always/Never/Just this time". If Android expect to be used on other devices (so other providers, other countries, other dataplan) that feature will be needed. And the all or nothing attitude towards permissions when installing an app must be changed.
In the mean time, I suggest the original poster do what I do.. Delete all your APN settings and re-add them when needed. In my case just changing one letter in the APN seems to be enough.
my 2p.
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I completely understand where you are coming from and I think once the OS comes out of beta it will be a lot better. In the meantime I think it is easier to do the method I did above as it just turns off the data connection and doesn't change any other settings. And you can turn it on or off on the fly.
neoobs said:
I completely understand where you are coming from and I think once the OS comes out of beta it will be a lot better. In the meantime I think it is easier to do the method I did above as it just turns off the data connection and doesn't change any other settings. And you can turn it on or off on the fly.
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Don't mean to derail the converstaion but... Google, out of BETA? ROFLOL!!!
That'll be the end of life as we know it!
Anyways... going back to the subject. Your trick is neat and I don't need it (T-mobile customer with unlimited data) but still usefull.
@ mrboyd:
As neoobs stated, you'll have to do that workaround untill Google does add such a feature, but unless you give enough stink (complain) about it, they won't listen.
You could go here to developers and see if anyone is doing something about it and "ask" for such a "feature"
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers
Also, where are you located? Who's your service provider? What data plans do they have there, or don't?
On the same topic... if someone notices they have no data connection and want to enable it follow the same directions. I did this the other night when tmobiles towers were down. It helped me get connected again.
Does this thing works? I have tried playing with it a little bit and it didn't seem to do much. I'll give it another shot.
mrboyd said:
Does this thing works? I have tried playing with it a little bit and it didn't seem to do much. I'll give it another shot.
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what 'thing' ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi,
I have this big, big problem with my carrier (Orange Spain) where they are charging me an arm and an eye for data connections I didn't make. I mean I just got this month's bill and I owe them 150€! Looking at it in detail I see numerous data connections ranging in the tens or hundreds of megs, made when I wasn't even using the phone. There's even one where I supposedly used 1,7 Gb!
They assure me that the connections have been made even if I'm not aware of them, and said that maybe they're due to a faulty phone. Is there a known problem with the N1 or any Android apps where they might be using those huge amounts of data without the user knowing it?
The apps use as much data as you let them use.
For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account. Don't be surprised that doing it will result in huge bills.
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
email accounts with sync amount=all?
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
Jack_R1 said:
For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account.
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Nope, I don't. I wasn't even tethering by USB at the time these connections were made.
Jack_R1 said:
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
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Does 3G Watchdog tell you which app is using / has used the data?
britoso said:
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
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Yep... but no new photos were uploaded.
britoso said:
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
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No, none of that.
britoso said:
email accounts with sync amount=all?
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Yes... still, those amount to 5-10 mails a day, tops.
osugsxr said:
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
No, 3G Watchdog doesn't tell you what app used the traffic. But there are others that do. Recently someone asked about such app, try to search the forum.
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
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Well, that should rule out Android itself from your OP. It must be an app. Newsrob? You should look into any app that autosyncs. Also check their sync interval settings.
Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
frandavid100 said:
Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
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This is, obviously, your bias showing and nothing more. There is no "background" data besides the obvious data - Gmail? Email? Contact sync (only when contacts change)? Data-syncing apps? Data-downloading apps (Maps/Navigation)? They're not present on "other mobile OS"? If they are - they draw the same data.
You might argue that Android gives a lot more "connectivity" to use by default, so users end up using a lot more data. That's closer to the truth - since Google apps rely on web availability, and they're available by default and easily accessible, they end up being used. On the other hand, it doesn't differ from installing those apps on any other mobile platform that supports it.
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No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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I already took that into account: some of the connections Orange is charging me for don't amount to a Kylobyte, so we can discard that. And I have single connections that range from the tens of Megs to a top of 1.67Gb. All of them connections I didn't make, obviously.
Install this:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.curvefish.apps.trafficinfo
And check, what is connecting. If it's your phone at all.
Thanks, I've just started using it.
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
frandavid100 said:
Thanks, I've just started using it.
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I am encountering the same issue (not so huge leaks but unknown as well)
TrafficInfo says me the following components use that data (every day lots of megabytes):
MediaStorage
DRM Protected Content Storage
Download Manager
have you figured out what that was?
Please let us know.
Thank you in advance
lbcoder said:
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
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Thanks a lot man,
I don't know what that was in case of frandavid100,
but thanks to you I've figured out what is happening on my side.
I did tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap as you mentioned.
Your wise advice and mighty tool let me understand that my N1 downloads FRG83 firmware update from Google servers some times per day (but it can't install it because CM6 ROM is on board).
I really appreciate your help ! Thanks again.
Does anyone have a recommendation for an Android firewall app (wifi and mobile data), my phone is not rooted.
kenrw7 said:
Does anyone have a recommendation for an Android firewall app (wifi and mobile data), my phone is not rooted.
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pointless and will hog resources
Why when android phones are open to hacking when connected to any WiFi network. You don't think twice in having a firewall on your PC.
kenrw7 said:
Why when android phones are open to hacking when connected to any WiFi network. You don't think twice in having a firewall on your PC.
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There is a good Xposed firewall, and also a stand-alone firewall (BOTH REQUIRE ROOT) called "DroidWall".
Both work quite well IMO.
Good Luck :good:
Thanks, but the phone is a xt1052 and not rooted and boot loader locked with 4.4.4
watch what you connect too, dont use free charging stations etc and buy a Block-it pocket or a Detracktor Cell Phone Pouch
kenrw7 said:
Thanks, but the phone is a xt1052 and not rooted and boot loader locked with 4.4.4
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...no root, no firewall...
EDIT: You should have no issues unlocking the BL and rooting on an XT1052. It is the only way to use a firewall.
Samwathegreat OK thanks I thought so.
Qweesy that not bad idea but does stop receiving calls and texts which still want. So I continue what I do is switch WiFi off when not on home WiFi and also disabled all location services except gps
As said already.... Unless your a secret agent, or have sensitive government or corporate documents on your device... Something like this would only hurt your performance and battery.
Just keep backups off the device occasionally and you can always just wipe and reflash if anything happens. Tho in 6 years on Android.... Unlocked and rooted.... I've personally never got a virus or been hacked in any way.
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I'm not a secret agent just concerned about id theft as my data such as passwords, contacts, email addresses etc that are unlike the PC are unprotected. What brought it my attention was an article about Defcon hackers conference in Las Vegas where they hacked EVERY phone of anyone entering. And displayed their details on a wall of shame, the only way not to be on wall of shame is to have WiFi switched OFF or have a firewall. This applies not only to phones but tablets. For time I've never keep WiFi on whilst sleeping , scanning unchecked, avoid weak WiFi.
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I'm not a secret agent just concerned about id theft as my data such as passwords, contacts, email addresses etc that are unlike the PC are the unprotected.
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There are plenty of other reasons to use a firewall as well. Many apps have NO BUSINESS using internet access (games, file manager apps, etc), but they do and they send personal data to 3rd party marketing companies and the devs get paid for this info. If you care about privacy, it's not a bad idea.
mobiwol?
Has anyone here tried mobiwol? It claims to be a "No Root Firewall"
at mobiwol dot com
I got a new XT1068 (dual-SIM unlocked) last week. It came with Android 5.0.2 out of the box and hasn't been updated yet.
My mobile data plan starts on the 1st of every month and I get 500MB. I don't browse much on mobile data so I keep it on all the time for push updates and such.
The other day (the 8th) I got a text from my carrier saying I used all the data. This had never happened before on any phone or any carrier I've used.
I went to the carriers website to check my account and it shows mobile data traffic in bursts of 100KB approximately every 10 minutes right up until they cut my access, because I reached the cap.
The odd thing is under "Data usage" I don't see any of these bursts.
A friend of mine had the exact same problem (same model and same carrier) and his solution was to do a Factory Restore. I want to find a better solution, because the phone just came from the factory.
Any ideas?
Try disabling Google location reporting, an use greneefy to other apps
fburgos said:
Try disabling Google location reporting, an use greneefy to other apps
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Thanks for your reply. I really like all the Google Now stuff, so I won't disable location, but I will look at Greeneefy.
I managed to find some concrete information on this here. The proposed solution was to change the APN settings to not include supl (Secure User Plane Location). Apparently that has to do with A-GPS and uses very little data, but I'm unlucky enough that my carrier deducts 100KB for every connection.
I applied the fix, but since I'm out of data, I can only know if it worked next month. I will report back.
MrBaker said:
Thanks for your reply. I really like all the Google Now stuff, so I won't disable location, but I will look at Greeneefy.
I managed to find some concrete information on this here. The proposed solution was to change the APN settings to not include supl (Secure User Plane Location). Apparently that has to do with A-GPS and uses very little data, but I'm unlucky enough that my carrier deducts 100KB for every connection.
I applied the fix, but since I'm out of data, I can only know if it worked next month. I will report back.
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You could restrict Data Usage on Google Services too.
SirRhor said:
You could restrict Data Usage on Google Services too.
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If this fix doesn't work I guess that's the only option. That would probably mess with location, wouldn't it?
MrBaker said:
If this fix doesn't work I guess that's the only option. That would probably mess with location, wouldn't it?
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I don't think so, when the phone needs to know where it is, it triangulates its position between cell towers (with no actual data being used) plus GPS and plus WiFi if connected. You can try it and see if it works.
SirRhor said:
I don't think so, when the phone needs to know where it is, it triangulates its position between cell towers (with no actual data being used) plus GPS and plus WiFi if connected. You can try it and see if it works.
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OK. It should still mess with some other things, I suspect.
I'll see if this SUPL thing works and if not I'll look into other options. Truth is that issue explains the frequent data use and the fact that it isn't reported under Data usage, so I really think that might be it.
SirRhor said:
I don't think so, when the phone needs to know where it is, it triangulates its position between cell towers (with no actual data being used) plus GPS and plus WiFi if connected. You can try it and see if it works.
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Yes Sir that's right the phone don't need internet connection to know it's location but if Google reporting is enabled is will connect to send it's location to Google servers I think it will help disabling location reporting also battery is improved a lot
fburgos said:
Yes Sir that's right the phone don't need internet connection to know it's location but if Google reporting is enabled is will connect to send it's location to Google servers I think it will help disabling location reporting also battery is improved a lot
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I see. I'm happy with the battery life so far and I find Google's services very useful, so I'll leave it on for now. If the same problem turns up, I'll really have no choice but to turn it off.
Hi,
I´m not a developer, but would describe myself as an advanced user and found a few helpful topics here at XDA.
Currently I´m almost succeeding in degoogling my phone, without root. This is a choice not to end up with update/warranty issues.
I currently have two primary issues.
1) I can´t disable com.xiaomi.finddevice without causing problems. This service is constantly reporting on me and has permissions for camera, contacts, files/media, location, phone and SMS. A temporary solution is to block it via NetGuard, but I would like a longer term solution.
2) The phone is constantly trying to connect to the Google server 216.58.202.106 / 2800:3f0:4002:802::200a, probably to detect my true IP address.
I´m not keen on anybody like Google, Alibaba, Xiaomi or the like to spy on me, so I´ve filed a legal notice to Google, but don´t expect to get anywhere with an ignorant evil organization like that, so I have to solve the problem on my own.
fgschack said:
Hi,
I´m not a developer, but would describe myself as an advanced user and found a few helpful topics here at XDA.
Currently I´m almost succeeding in degoogling my phone, without root. This is a choice not to end up with update/warranty issues.
I currently have two primary issues.
1) I can´t disable com.xiaomi.finddevice without causing problems. This service is constantly reporting on me and has permissions for camera, contacts, files/media, location, phone and SMS. A temporary solution is to block it via NetGuard, but I would like a longer term solution.
2) The phone is constantly trying to connect to the Google server 216.58.202.106 / 2800:3f0:4002:802::200a, probably to detect my true IP address.
I´m not keen on anybody like Google, Alibaba, Xiaomi or the like to spy on me, so I´ve filed a legal notice to Google, but don´t expect to get anywhere with an ignorant evil organization like that, so I have to solve the problem on my own.
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I have to clarify that for me deGoogling means not having to use any Google applications, Google Play Services or having any Google services reporting on me. Further I don´t want any connections to the Internet, that´s not essential for my use of the phone. Currently I´m scanning the network traffic with NetGuard or PCAPdroid, to identify who´s trying to connect.