just sharing a converstion i had with AT&T....so sad about the bootloader being locked
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Shedene: Welcome to AT&T online Sales support. How may I help you with placing your order today?
Julius: is the galaxy note 4 factory unlocked?
Shedene: Hey Julius!
Julius: hello
Julius: hows it going Shedene?
Shedene: It is going great! How about you?
Julius: good good
Julius: i wanted to know more about the galaxy note 4
Shedene: Not a problem at all!
Shedene: All our devices are locked to the AT&T network.
Julius: so i can't root the phone?
Shedene: You would have to complete the contract of the phone.
Julius: uh so after 2 years the phone will just unlock its self?
Shedene: No. You would have to request for the device to be unlocked.
Julius: ahhh okay then how dose it get unlocked do i have to go to a store or would it be over the phone?
Shedene: It can be done either ways!
Julius: oh okay
Julius: now i have to wait the 2 years i can't just speed that up anyway?
Shedene: For new customers or those upgrading their device, the Early Termination Fee (ETF) is $150 for basic and quick messaging devices and will drop $4 per month over the life of the 2-year service agreement. For more advanced or higher-end devices, including smartphones and netbooks, the ETF is $325 and will drop $10 per month over the life of the 2-year service agreement. Customers who complete their 2-year service agreement are not subject to an ETF until they upgrade and enter a new agreement.
Julius: okay so i would have to payfullprice to get a unlocked phone?
Shedene: You will have to activate it for 60 days with AT&T before it is unlocked.
Julius: okay so if i get the note 4 after 60 i can call and have to bootloader unlocked?
Julius: 60 days*
Shedene: That is correct.
Julius: why did you say 2 years before?
Shedene: If your purchase the device, you would have to have it activated for 60 days before you can caLL AND ACTIVATE IT.
Shedene: *and activate it.
Shedene: That is if you purchase under a 2 year contract.
Julius: gotcha
Shedene: Is that all for today Julius?
Julius: yeah
Shedene: Okay. Will you be purchasing today?
Julius: no im going to wait till November when my contract is up and go to T-Mobile. thanks for the info
Shedene: You are most welcome!
Shedene: Would that be all for today?
Julius: yep
Shedene: Okay. Have a fantastic day!
Julius: same to you
You guys are talking about two different things. Att is referring to Sim unlock. Your talking about bootloader unlock. Two different things. Att is not going to unlock bootloader.
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If I buy the AT&T S5 for full price on att.com, will it come unlocked?
Mysteriouskk said:
If I buy the AT&T S5 for full price on att.com, will it come unlocked?
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No. But getting the device unlocked by them won't be a problem.
Sim unlocked or Bootloader unlocked, bl will likely never be unlocked in the near future, sim unlocked u can usually call ATT if not there are unlocking services.
Mysteriouskk said:
If I buy the AT&T S5 for full price on att.com, will it come unlocked?
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go here to unlock:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/?
co.ag.2005 said:
go here to unlock:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/?
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Any links for non att users without their service.
charlieb620 said:
Any links for non att users without their service.
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not that I know of. it seems to me that any unlocking service outside of the carriers is quite pricey and takes a while. but I could be wrong.
I don't know what their current Sim unlock policy is. But I remember to receive a unlock code you must be with AT&T for 90 days first. But they could of had changed that. If you pay full retail it won't be unlock. You just won't be on a contract. Meaning you could cancel their service at any time.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
I don't know what their current Sim unlock policy is. But I remember to receive a unlock code you must be with AT&T for 90 days first. But they could of had changed that. If you pay full retail it won't be unlock. You just won't be on a contract. Meaning you could cancel their service at any time.
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I currently have been with AT&T using a iphone for move than 2 years. Should I be able to get it unlocked day 1?
Mysteriouskk said:
I currently have been with AT&T using a iphone for move than 2 years. Should I be able to get it unlocked day 1?
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Yeah you should. Just call them and see what's up
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The President of USA has signed the law enabling third-party companies to unlock locked mobile phone handset in U . s .. Another good information is that prices reduce and the cheapest unlock certainly is the unlock for AT&T iPhone. You can now unlock clean and out of contract AT&T iPhone 4, 4S for $15 only! This is certainly impressive because only one week ago the fee was $10 larger.
I would like to know if its possible to take my contract att note 3 to tmobile? if I get a sim card from them can i just put it in and use it on tmobile?
I am rooted but not unlocked of course
is there anyway possible to do this?
I have a family plan and just want to get this line switched
If you are looking to switch over to tmobile, your phone would need to be unlocked. There is 2 ways to do that. . . 1. Att will give you the unlock code when you finish off or early terminate your contract. or 2. Go to a website that unlocks phones. Use google to help you find a reputable one.
Remember that by ending your contract early with Att they will require you to pay a fee based off how many months you have on your contract.
147aaron said:
If you are looking to switch over to tmobile, your phone would need to be unlocked. There is 2 ways to do that. . . 1. Att will give you the unlock code when you finish off or early terminate your contract. or 2. Go to a website that unlocks phones. Use google to help you find a reputable one.
Remember that by ending your contract early with Att they will require you to pay a fee based off how many months you have on your contract.
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If I remember they just passed a law that now requires the providers to unlock at the users request, so shouldn't need to be out of contract anymore. And yes it early termination then you pay the ETF, HOWEVER tmo is paying the etf if you swap over to them. You pay the etf and then once you are with tmo I think like 30 days and they verify you made the requirement then they refund you the etf for each line you swapped, BTW it requires you to trade in a phone, so if that note 3 is your only one and you don't have something else, go buy a cheap go phone to use ?
But overall, yes you can use you att note 3 on tmo.
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Zugshad said:
If I remember they just passed a law that now requires the providers to unlock at the users request, so shouldn't need to be out of contract anymore. And yes it early termination then you pay the ETF, HOWEVER tmo is paying the etf if you swap over to them. You pay the etf and then once you are with tmo I think like 30 days and they verify you made the requirement then they refund you the etf for each line you swapped, BTW it requires you to trade in a phone, so if that note 3 is your only one and you don't have something else, go buy a cheap go phone to use ?
But overall, yes you can use you att note 3 on tmo.
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That's not what the bill was about. All it was is that you can now legally unlock your phone. The carriers can still hold on to the lock until you fulfill your 2 year contract.
I asked AT&T rep and escalated case to unlock my HTC M7 early in the contract, and also my Note3 was unlocked this way by AT&T after case escalation.
If you can't unlock it, I think you can still go with Cricket prepaid which is owned by AT&T and uses their towers. They have a $35/month plan (after $5 autopay discount) that gives 500MB fast data, then unlimited throttled data.
There's no way to unlock it with a software unless you still have the very old boot loader.
Hello.
Is it possible the phone gets unlocked in a t-mob store if I pay full price for it?
Thanks.
Yes it you pay full price you can get it unlocked I have talked to a rep and is possible is your phone they have to unlock espclecially if you paid full price, tell them you're going out of the country.
Completely up to the store/rep you get. Most will not do it on the spot and will not sell it without a service plan (that you can later cancel). They try to stick to the stated policy of not unlocking phones until 40 days of service.
Individuals have gotten reps here and there to unlock it for them on the spot, but AFAIK those experiences are in the vast minority.
Most folks have just gone with a 3rd party unlocking service ($24-35) and then cancelled service.
What dawheat said
It's not standard procedure to allow for unlocks before 40 days of service even if you're going somewhere
Last year I got an S4 unlocked at the store (Had to pay full price + a $50 prepaid plan of some sort)
I'm not from the U.S so I needed it unlocked. Hopefully I can get a Note 4 in a few weeks as I'll be traveling to Atlanta.
Good luck to both of us! if you already did it, I'll apreciate if you tell me how it went
Hi I want to buy this phone, unlock it and use it for ATT.
I heard you cannot buy this phone off contract and that you must have a service with them. I hear people are just signing up for the service for one day and then cancel the day after.
Can someone explain how they did it?
pham818 said:
Hi I want to buy this phone, unlock it and use it for ATT.
I heard you cannot buy this phone off contract and that you must have a service with them. I hear people are just signing up for the service for one day and then cancel the day after.
Can someone explain how they did it?
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Pay full price for phone up front and buy the smallest package. After 40 days cancel the service. Some stores will sell it out right without a plan, but you will have to do some searching and calling. I had to go to 3 different stores before I found one that would sell it out right.
I read LTE and 4G dont work so well when you take it back to ATT. I read somewhere.
chong67 said:
I read LTE and 4G dont work so well when you take it back to ATT. I read somewhere.
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Results vary. Some say it works just as good
My LTE works perfect on AT&T.
My unlocked T Mobile Note 4 running on AT&T.
chong67 said:
I read LTE and 4G dont work so well when you take it back to ATT. I read somewhere.
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I thought the same thing. This is not the case with the Note 4. It was an issue with the Note 3 and previous devices in my experience.
martinezma99 said:
My unlocked T Mobile Note 4 running on AT&T.
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Who did you use to unlock it? im looking to pick one up and i'd rather not have to wait for tmobiles unlocking terms.
If you buy the phone out right you can unlock asap
bigmase23 said:
If you buy the phone out right you can unlock asap
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There's been conflicting reports about that.
I bought the phone outright. Paid $30 or so to cellunlocker to get an unlock code. Popped in AT&T sim and off I went. Still need to cancel Tmo service.
taphius said:
There's been conflicting reports about that.
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When you purchase the phone outright you now it and can unlock it.
I bought my Note 4 outright and purchased the lowest priced package I could. I unlocked it the first day I received it, inserted my sim card from Consumer Cellular and was up and running. However, I read that T-Mobile can and have blacklisted the IMEI of phones that don't comply with their terms of service. Since I didn't read the fine print when I bought the phone and service, I decided it would be prudent to go ahead and meet the 40 service requirement to get an unlock code (although the phone is already unlocked) rather than take a chance and have some T-Mobile manager with a Napoleonic complex blacklist the phone. Then I would be out of $800.00. I asked the customer care representative about blacklisting the phone if I didn't meet the 40 day requirement and she said it was possible. I wasn't willing to take that chance. I will pony up an additional $80.00 + dollars to have peace of mind.
cartertucker said:
I bought the phone outright. Paid $30 or so to cellunlocker to get an unlock code. Popped in AT&T sim and off I went. Still need to cancel Tmo service.
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I preordered, got phone Monday the 13th.
I unlocked with cellunlocker.net 4 days later.
Been using it on AT&T since last friday. Called and canceled tmobile same day.
Easy as that.
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When you purchase the phone outright you now it and can unlock it.
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Right but you make it sound like every T-Mobile store or reseller will sell you a phone outright with absolutely zero commitment of any kind like you walked in to buy a pack of gum or bought a nexus from google play store. There are conflicting reports about zero commitment purchases. The safer bet seems to be walking in with the understanding that you may have to agree to a month-to-month or prepaid contract that you can cancel a day or more later.
The best way i can think to explain it is as follows:
A few people have reported that they were able to buy it outright without service. Though many have been denied that option.
Some have implied that Tmobile then unlocked it.
A moderately safe assumption is that you can buy it with service, unlock it via third party service, and cancel your tmobile service the second u get your unlock code. This comes with the gray area of region locking and having to activate it on tmobile first to remove the region lock pior to unlocking. This can be a lengthy discussion, you might not care about region locking, I'll leave it at that, but read into it. I went this route, activated on tmobile for 4 days, then unlocked and cancelled. I say assumption because people are worried about blacklisting and T.O.S.
The most cautious method would be to wait out your 40 days per Tmobile T.O.S., in addition to the time it takes for them to send your unlock code, pay applicable fees, then cancel.
Hope this clears up the options a bit.
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T-Mobile has the IMEI of phone they sell you in their records. I confirmed it when I called them and they read it to me for confirmation purposes. They sold the phone to you and they know everything about it. Guaranteed. If their records show the phone being used on another carrier without it being activated with them or unlocked by them then they can blacklist the IMEI of the phone. That phone will then be an $800.00 paperweight. They have done it before and a quick Google search will prove it. I'm not saying they will since that seems to be an unknown, but they can and the owner of the phone will have no recourse. I sure don't want to wake up one day and find out that my $800.00 phone is dead. I might very well be wrong, but I am not willing to take that chance after paying $800.00 for the phone. I'll pay for the 40 days of service.
I just bought my Note 4 full price from AT&T after calling about 30 stores in my area and finding one store with one black model in stock. I ended up paying less than full price because of some computer error that rung up the phone $749.99 instead of $825.99. They charged me the difference so I only paid $825 outright, after taxes. All in all, I saved almost $50 (difference in tax from $750 to $825). I still feel like it is ridiculous though that the AT&T model is $80 more expensive than TMo. Is it worth buying a TMO Note 4 with their baseball discount ($30 off) and trying to unlock it to use it on AT&T? Sorry for my long comment/question.
Bought mine from swappa in a sealed pack. Opened the phone, went to Cellunlocker.com and within 10 min had my unlock code. Works great on ATT
AT&T on Tmobile? Did Tmobile get rid of their unlock app that ruined the s6/s6 edge?
This Tmobile unlock app really made things difficult for att users who wanted to use s6/s6 edge on att with unlocked bootloader. Does this app exhist on the Tmobile note 5?
Yes it does. and Tmobile will not stop using it anytime soon. They created with the purpose of deterring ppl from getting the high end phones. claiming insurance or stop paying for them to unlock them and use them in different networks. There are ways around it but at this point any future launches will be this way.
If a person purchases their devices outright, full price, then they shouldn't be forcing people to wait forty five days to unlock their device. ATT will unlock in one business day.
atuarre said:
If a person purchases their devices outright, full price, then they shouldn't be forcing people to wait forty five days to unlock their device. ATT will unlock in one business day.
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I agree - but that is the price we pay to buy phones with unlocked bootloaders - hell, it could be worse - we could be forced to buy our phones from ATT -
personally, I wish Samsung would sell unlocked phones. (Someone in Houston said that BEST BUY is selling unlocked Note 5s in their stores down there. I have not been able to confirm this - but he insisted they have been doing this for a while - I checked in Milwaukee and was told they do not offer them here - darn it! Maybe they are doing it in your area too?
Sorry I don't have to travel for work as much as I used to - LOL -
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atuarre said:
If a person purchases their devices outright, full price, then they shouldn't be forcing people to wait forty five days to unlock their device. ATT will unlock in one business day.
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I agree - but that is the price we pay to buy phones with unlocked bootloaders - hell, it could be worse - we could be forced to buy our phones from ATT -
personally, I wish Samsung would sell unlocked phones. (Someone in Houston said that BEST BUY is selling unlocked Note 5s in their stores down there. I have not been able to confirm this - but he insisted they have been doing this for a while - I checked in Milwaukee and was told they do not offer them here - darn it! Maybe they are doing it in your area too?
Sorry I don't have to travel for work as much as I used to - LOL
EDIT - Confirmed - UNLOCK AP is pre-installed - just like the S6 and the S6 Edge (man, the note 5 is awesome - thinner than I thought it was going to be - feels great in the hand when holding it - the bezel is amazing thin - screen almost goes to edge to edge - very nice - can't wait for ROOT!
atuarre said:
If a person purchases their devices outright, full price, then they shouldn't be forcing people to wait forty five days to unlock their device. ATT will unlock in one business day.
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I bought a G4 outright from T-Mobile, reaching out to their twitter was enough to get it unlocked on like day 2.