As a recent convert from Sprint's unlimited roaming, I knew I might have issues with T-Mobile's 50MB limit, but I wasn't expecting this. On a recent trip to New England I was surprised to get the 40MB message and a few minutes later the 50MB exhausted message. My signal indicator showed full bars of 4G and no roaming indicator. My Status in Settings said I was not roaming, but it did say that I was on AT&T with an HSPA+ signal.
Every other phone I have had showed the 'R' for roaming, and the European Note 4 user manual shows an 'R' above the bars for roaming, but the T-Mobile manual doesn't show that. For now I have turned off data roaming, but how am I supposed to know that I am roaming if there is no indicator and my status says I'm not?
As far as I'm aware. With T-Mobiles simple choice plan you shouldn't roam anyway since it's nationwide.
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As far as I'm aware. With T-Mobiles simple choice plan you shouldn't roam anyway since it's nationwide.
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Nope, all of the plans have data roaming limits. The Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan that I have only allows 50MB: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3299
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As a recent convert from Sprint's unlimited roaming, I knew I might have issues with T-Mobile's 50MB limit, but I wasn't expecting this. On a recent trip to New England I was surprised to get the 40MB message and a few minutes later the 50MB exhausted message. My signal indicator showed full bars of 4G and no roaming indicator. My Status in Settings said I was not roaming, but it did say that I was on AT&T with an HSPA+ signal.
Every other phone I have had showed the 'R' for roaming, and the European Note 4 user manual shows an 'R' above the bars for roaming, but the T-Mobile manual doesn't show that. For now I have turned off data roaming, but how am I supposed to know that I am roaming if there is no indicator and my status says I'm not?
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Here is a screenshot of the situation I was referring to. As you can see, it shows full bars of 4G, that I am not roaming, but that I am on AT&T. How can that be? And if it is correct, why did T-Mobile ding me for using roaming data?
Also, according to the T-Mobile Note 3 manual that I found online, it doesn't have an 'R' roaming indicator either. Is that true?
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Nope, all of the plans have data roaming limits. The Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan that I have only allows 50MB: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3299
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Interesting. It looks like it's at the bottom of their site too. That's kind of unsettling that they limit a nationwide plan. Regardless of roaming, you're still in the country.
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Before, indicator (G, E, 3G or H) show 3G and then phone make data call its shows H, but form today morning its stay H all the time
Any ideas?
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Im using new att rom 1.62
Chances are, your area has been upgraded to HSDPA coverage. My was a few months ago (NYC)
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Chances are, your area has been upgraded to HSDPA coverage. My was a few months ago (NYC)
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Thats correct. My icon is also on H now all time. (PHL)
Philly area
I live in this metro area myself. The H icon does mean HSDPA however you can set this off using Kaisertweak. Once you're phone resets it should go back to 3G icon. If you want to me more technical with switching bands, you can use the newer comm manager and advaned config to add a 3G on/off button for toggling between edge and 3G. Remember HSDPA is a faster form of 3G, the 3G icon just refers to the slower form of it which once was a default until the recent upgrade.
very wierd...i always have 3G turned off....so I'm always on EDGE...tonight i opened up the comm manager and turned 3G back on...now i have H at all times....
But! with the H or the 3G i get less signal strenght....on Edge i get full everywhere
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very wierd...i always have 3G turned off....so I'm always on EDGE...tonight i opened up the comm manager and turned 3G back on...now i have H at all times....
But! with the H or the 3G i get less signal strenght....on Edge i get full everywhere
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EDGE data coverage is from the GSM side of the network.
The H is from the 3G side of the network. The technologies are different, and so is the coverage. The footprints are not exactly the same.
However, with 3G... you only need 1-2 bar to be able to place/receive phone calls. Voice quality should be reasonable.
Just an FYI.
oh...so what should i leave?
the EDGE or the H?
i dont have a data plan if that even matters
How do they fair up for battery life?
I hear that 3G uses less battery than EDGE does...is this true?
What about HSDPA?
Um, no you've got that backwards. Edge uses MUCH less battery than 3G and way less than HSDPA.
If you don't use data, stick with Edge.
but the H icon makes me feel special
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Chances are, your area has been upgraded to HSDPA coverage. My was a few months ago (NYC)
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PDX area just switched over to HSDPA a few days ago - I'm so happy!
To make things even better, then guy in the store dropped my plan down to $30 a month (no txt messages) which was unavailable when I first bought the phone! Sweet Deal!
Under Mobile Networks:
1 - Do you have Data Roaming checked? Mine is... but I noticed my Nexus One is not. Curious if this matters.
2 - Under Network Operators... are you guys selecting T Mobile or Select Automatically? I assume I need to just click on T Mobile since I would not get 3G on another provider (AT&T) right?
Very basic I know, I was just comparing the 2 phones and trying to find the differences.
Anyone? I didn't think it was too hard of a question, ha.
Bump, sorry.
Data roaming off
I didn't read about what that is, but when you voice roam you are out of range of your normal carrier and any voice services in roaming are super expensive. I suspect the same for data, except since data is on all the time you will get charged once you enter a roaming zone.
As for providers, just stick with manual selection.
What is roaming? I looked at some other posts, but all of them are outside of the State. I went on a three day vacation to Iowa and I was on roaming. I thought roaming was when you left the US? Please help me im quite confused and never dealt with this. Im also worried because ill be going to wisconsin later today for another three days and I DO NOT want to be without data. Thanks
Roaming is using another carriers towers for signal. If your phone cannot get a signal from your carrier it will connect to another carriers tower to get signal.
AS long as you are on your OWN carriers towers depending on your data plan it could be nation wide (best to check this)
As long as you are on your OWN carrier network, wherever you are you can make local calls, as that becomes your local network. eg: I live in Canada and am on the Rogers network. If I live in Toronto, but travel to Ottawa. As long as I'm on the rogers network while in Ottawa, I can make local calls in Ottawa as part of my plan. If i call a Toronto number it would be long distance.
Data would not be roaming as I am still on the Rogers network.
If I was in Ottawa on the Telus network, because Rogers is not available, I would be roaming, and incur roaming charges for voice and data.
Easy way to avoid data roaming is to turn it off in the network settings. If you go into a data roaming state, it simply won't work. This is where WIFI comes in handy.
Thank you. Cleared that right up for me
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So i took out the Sim from the Iphone 6 im returning and popped it into this bad boy. Curious as to how you guys are setting up the phone so you get the correct LTE speeds. Im barely getting 9down whereas my gf's galaxy in the same room is getting 20+ down. wonder if i did anything wrong
It depends on location. I've seen consistent 50+ down and 20+ up with T-Mobile and default APN.
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It depends on location. I've seen consistent 50+ down and 20+ up with T-Mobile and default APN.
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Nah something is def wrong. Phone is barely usable without wifi. What APN settings are you guys using for tmo?
fast.t-mobile.com it should also give you the settings automatically if you just press the "Internet settings" button.
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fast.t-mobile.com it should also give you the settings automatically if you just press the "Internet settings" button.
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Thats what i been running. Could it have something to do with the sim? Was i supposed to get a sim for an unlocked phone? Urrgh so frustrating
That's pretty slow, your gf has the tmo also? Pop her sim in your phone and compare. The sim shouldn't matter though.
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That's pretty slow, your gf has the tmo also? Pop her sim in your phone and compare. The sim shouldn't matter though.
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shes got a galaxy s4 so that wont work. however i still got the iphone 6 around. when i put the sim in that phone i get regular LTE speeds.
Oh, I just noticed in your speedtest result you're on H, not LTE. Under "preferred network mode" do you have "4G (preferred)" enabled? If you're in a border coverage area it could be that your phone is dropping you down to HSPA+ instead of staying on LTE.
For a test, go to the dialer and do *#*#4636#*#* then go to Phone Info and change it to LTE Only and test it to see if it stays on LTE and what kind of speeds you get, by default it's set to "LTE/GSM auto PRL" so if the LTE connection isn't strong enough it's going to drop you down to H+.
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Oh, I just noticed in your speedtest result you're on H, not LTE. Under "preferred network mode" do you have "4G (preferred)" enabled? If you're in a border coverage area it could be that your phone is dropping you down to HSPA+ instead of staying on LTE.
For a test, go to the dialer and do *#*#4636#*#* then go to Phone Info and change it to LTE Only and test it to see if it stays on LTE and what kind of speeds you get, by default it's set to "LTE/GSM auto PRL" so if the LTE connection isn't strong enough it's going to drop you down to H+.
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These Are my options under preffered:
wcdma only, gsm only, wcdma (preffered)/gsm and 4g(preffered)/wcdma/gsm. i dont see lte in the list
per your test, when I switch to LTE only in phone options the I lose all bars and signal totally craps out.
So when you switched to LTE Only, after a second or 2 you didn't get a 4G symbol above the signal bar? Do you ever see 4G? Mine switches to 4G within about 1 second of switching to LTE Only.
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So when you switched to LTE Only, after a second or 2 you didn't get a 4G symbol above the signal bar? Do you ever see 4G? Mine switches to 4G within about 1 second of switching to LTE Only.
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negative. just all bars gone and a big red x. you have this phone on t mobile also? did you do the us firmware update?
Yea, I'm using tmo. My phone is running 23.0.A.2.105
I got 2.93 maybe which one is 105??
I was worried during my first day of owning the phone because my Z1c showed LTE above the bars and now this Z3c shows 4G. I was worried that 4G != LTE.
I am having issues with the 4G on my Nexus 6.
I live in the UK and I am about 150 Yards from my nearest Tower. I am well within a 4G coverage area but I get no 4G connection.
I am using the Carrier Giffgaff a subsection on the O2 network.
I have a 4G sim with a 4G package so I know I should be recieving 4G. I am waiting for my carrier to get back to me on my issues.
I was just wondering if anyone could suggest anything that may help.
I have rebooted my phone multiple times.
I have cycled Data on / off multiple times
I have cycled through Airplane mode.
I've switched the network to 3G only and back again.
In phone dialer do this: *#*#4636#*#*
Then choose what you want to connect with.
what is 4G? what kind of signal are you talking about? both hspa+ and lte are considered "4G". 4G is just a term that data providers use, its not a real signal.
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what is 4G? what kind of signal are you talking about? both hspa+ and lte are considered "4G". 4G is just a term that data providers use, its not a real signal.
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In the UK 4G is considered LTE but I am recieving neither HSPA+ or LTE
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In the UK 4G is considered LTE but I am recieving neither HSPA+ or LTE
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if you dial *#*#4636#*#*, then press phone info, you can set your radio as lte only. after setting lte only(you wont get phone calls on lte only btw. it needs to be set to lte/gsm or lte/cdma/gsm to get calls as well). if you get no signal on lte only, then you either dont have lte in your area, or you need to talk to your provider.
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if you dial *#*#4636#*#*, then press phone info, you can set your radio as lte only. after setting lte only(you wont get phone calls on lte only btw. it needs to be set to lte/gsm or lte/cdma/gsm to get calls as well). if you get no signal on lte only, then you either dont have lte in your area, or you need to talk to your provider.
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Thanks for the help, no such luck LTE only gives me no service at all. I'm definitely in a 4G area. Will have to wait for my providers response.
ColdEmbrace said:
Thanks for the help, no such luck LTE only gives me no service at all. I'm definitely in a 4G area. Will have to wait for my providers response.
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do you have another device, with the same provider, and with lte, thats getting lte in your area?
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do you have another device, with the same provider, and with lte, thats getting lte in your area?
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No such luck im afraid. But according to my provider pages there's a small percentage of customers 1 in 1000 with the inability to connect to 4g even when fully set up and standing directly next to the mast. Seems to be an ongoing issue for the last month. Maybe I fall in that category just need to wait till they respond.
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No such luck im afraid. But according to my provider pages there's a small percentage of customers 1 in 1000 with the inability to connect to 4g even when fully set up and standing directly next to the mast. Seems to be an ongoing issue for the last month. Maybe I fall in that category just need to wait till they respond.
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Are you with o2 by any chance? I'm having the exact same problem. I'm in the UK as well and haven't been able to get LTE/4G at all since I put the sim in my Nexus 6. Could get LTE almost everywhere with my Note 4.
Ask your provider to give you a replacement sim or at least go and try one in a store that is in a 4G area. This will if nothing else rule that out.
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