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It would be very good to see an Installer based application for HTc Touch Diamond.
For people that do not know what Installer is, it is an application for the iPhone that downloads and installs other application on the phone.
And since the Diamond has WIFI I think it would be nice to have this kind of app.
So anyone what to make this kind of app?I will be happy to donate.
P.S Since it is a windows mobile phone it already has a million apps.
oh i would love the guy who make that happen.
Diamond + EvolutionRGB (iphone "game" you can get mith the installer) would be the last thing i need for my diamond. except getting tomtom worked
If I had some experience in writing application I would have tried to make it myself , but I have absolutely no experience
most sites offer a cab file which is relatively easy to install
the app would never work because it would require all developers to have the database in the app or accessable by the app
to unfeasable
the onyl reason iphone can do that is because apple controls everything and distributes via apple
so hence iphone can get them
not gonna happen on wm
You are probably right, I know its easy to install software on wm with cab files,but Im just saying that it would be great and easier
ya would be but
databasing would be nigh unmanagable... unless u get something like linux packet distro's
even so seems to be a lot of work for little effect
are u sure that there is no way to creat anithing similar to the installer.app?
a prog for wm just tu enter these "sources network". i thnink these iphone users calling the thing theyr doin "jailbreaking" and that doesn't sound very legal either.
pls can anyone tell me it is possible.....and if not then pls explain exatly why. so i can stop dreaming of it
thx in advance
Set up some kind of xda-repository (spelled right) just like I see on Linux communities ...
I will be in moscow in a mouth and a I know a few good developers there a might talk to them
Is AppToDate not along the lines of what you're looking for..? Or at least a starting point..?
Google it to find out more (is liked to the iPhone thingy) and take a look at:
http://www.modaco.com/content/apptodate/267096/download-apptodate-supported-applications/
Seems a good idea to me - although at the same time I can never imagine enough people signing up to it!
Hello i am new to posting on this site but a long time reader and i have a Xda mini S (wizard).
anyway
i have been looking around the internet because of a crazy idea in my mind.
The idea came to me yesterday after upgrading my rom to WM6.1 then to WM6.5
So am looking at WM6.5 and just am thinking wouldnt it be nice to have Windows Xp on my phone so can be like a portable laptop with calling and texting.
i saw some thing about it for a different pda i think
so was just wondering is it possible to upgrade the rom and install XP on a Xda Mini s.
Doesnt have to be like the Desktop version it can be a mini remake.
as long as its possible to flash it again afterwards if i change my mind about it.
Anyone have any ideas for me ?
An easy way to fix this is via citrix, or via vmware...
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
@HackWindows
Take a look at windows 98/XP on PDA!!!!!.
@RDilus
Great answer. Maybe next time someone have a question you beat him up .
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well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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Dont See why PDA cuddnt run WINDOWS even if its a early version Most PDA specs match up + whats the point in answering on this post if you gonna say stuff like that ... your obviously not being helpfull.
Delete you account and not the thread =/
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@HackWindows
Take a look at windows 98/XP on PDA!!!!!.
@RDilus
Great answer. Maybe next time someone have a question you beat him up .
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cheers i will do some more research on this
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well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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be more polite....
XP Phone
Check this website. To bad they created a phone that runs XP and not a phone on vista or 7
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well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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And here - -> http://www.intomobile.com/2009/09/17/preorders-open-for-windows-xp-phone.html
Maybe you should think outside the box a little before emphatically saying something isn't possible. Heck, 60 years ago noone thought it possible to carry around a phone withoutwires, or have a computer smaller than the size of a room.
hello,
i wanna say i had win 98.
but.... you have to change resolution with nyditot cause it isn't vga.
and on mine the mouse doesn't work.
just se this lik earlyer said http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362344
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so goodluck i know it works cause i had it myself.
but as i said no mouse and slow.
just try it is great to see
also watch youtube there are movies about it.
Well, it is impossible to run Windows XP natively, because the architecture of the wizard(or any htc smartphone) differs from the pc architecture.
However, there are 2 ways to "run" xp on your wizard:
1) With an x86 emulator like bochs or qemu; you don't want that because it's even slow on a normal pc, and you still don't have sufficient RAM to run xp.
2) Run xp on a normal pc and use VNC or RDP to control it remotely(so you need a fast internet connection). I believe there an rdp app called "Terminal Services client" on a default wm installation, so I'd go for that one.
If you want to run windows to play games on your pda, I'd advice to forget it, vnc and rdp are not designed for such tasks...
Well, I dig this idea. any one with the know how should be able to port Tablet PC OS into an .nbf file with all the right drivers an stripped of all unnecessary junk ( a minimalist version) . If not a complete os than lookalike may be. May be i am dreaming big but someone should be able to help. I see ppl trying to port Linux/ android on wizard than why not XP?
The Omap processor (which is an ARM processor) isn't powerful enough to Emulate a x86 processor with acceptable speeds and memory to run XP on a wizard (even if XP has been stripped etc..).
Thread closed.
is possible win mobile on htc tattoo?
tanks
see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583920
Still trying to find a method to root the device, then WM is pretty much further (and uninteresting sincerely). Buying a Tattoo for WM is a really bad idea, I don't even know if the processor can support WM
Windows Mobile is closed source, so no, it possibly couldn't be done.
Windows Mobile is lame anyway, it's actually a dummified version of Windows 2000 running some pretty GUI. Win Mobile is also a GUI on top of Windows CE, I believe the latest version is WinCE 6.5.
WinCE afaik needs to be compiled for specific CPU and such... It's not a one-size-fits-all setup. Sorry to pop your bubble.
Coburn64 said:
Windows Mobile is closed source, so no, it possibly couldn't be done.
Windows Mobile is lame anyway, it's actually a dummified version of Windows 2000 running some pretty GUI. Win Mobile is also a GUI on top of Windows CE, I believe the latest version is WinCE 6.5.
WinCE afaik needs to be compiled for specific CPU and such... It's not a one-size-fits-all setup. Sorry to pop your bubble.
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A little history from wiki..
Released in 16 November 1996 Codename "Alder".
Devices named "handheld PC" (HPC).
2.0 Released in September 1997 Codename "Birch".
Devices named "Palm-sized PC".
Real-time deterministic task scheduling.
Architectures: ARM, MIPS, PowerPC, StrongARM, SuperH and x86.
32-bit color screens.
SSL 2.0 and SSL 3.0.
3.0Released in June 2000 [MSCE3].Codename "Cedar".
Major recode that made CE hard real time down to the microsecond level.
Base for the Pocket PC 2000, Pocket PC 2002 and Smartphone 2002.
Priority levels was increased from 8 to 256.
Object store was increased from 65 536 to 4,19 million allowed objects.
Restricted access to critical APIs or restricting write access to parts of the registry.
4.x Released in January 2002 [MSCE4].Codename "Talisker/Jameson/McKendric".
Driver structure changed greatly, new features added.
Base for "Pocket PC 2003".
Bluetooth support.
TLS (SSL 3.1), IPsec L2TP VPN, or Kerberos.
5.0 Released in August 2004.Adds lots of features. Codename "Macallan".
Automatic report of bugs to the manufacturer.
Direct3D Mobile, a COM-based version of Windows XP's DirectX multimedia API.
DirectDraw for 2D graphics and DirectShow for camera and video digitisation support.
Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) support.
6.x Released in September 2006. Codename "Yamazaki".
Process address space is increased from 32 MB to 1 GB.
Number of processes has been increased from 32 to 32 768.
User mode and kernel mode device drivers are possible.
512MB physically managed memory
Device.exe, filesys.exe, GWES.exe has been moved to Kernel mode.
SetKMode and set process permissions not possible.
System call performance improved.
Theres no doubt Windows can do more than Android can in certain areas that really make a device useful. Windows Mobile= Mini PC w/phone capabilities, and Android= Modern Smart phone/w PC like functionality. It's all up to what you want in a phone..but if you gave me a Mini PC Phone..all in one word..that will be winner.
Cant understand WHY anyone wants WM ??? Its **** compare to Android in my world
OK, Could be nice with update for android to 2.x but windows mobile = hell no....
WM Shouldn't be a priority - Let's root and update
I have owned several WM devices, and Android is way superior than WM. Why would you buy a tattoo and then convert it? You should have bought a WM device if you want WM. Anyway, we should first be able to root the device, and update to 2.1.
Let us get our priorities right people!
besides being free source and visually more appealing i fail to see where exactly does android out do windows mobile???? Functionality ways according to me nothing beats windows mobile. I upgraded to the hero just to try something different, just to see what android is like..and in no way is it better than windows mobile....if ur talking about sense ui, facebook integration, and all the million other widgets that make your experience a great one.....that isn't the android OS per se...theyre just add ons. any way SPB mobile 3.5 is still better than the sense ui that we get on our phones.
things i didn't like about android:
-No bluetooth file transfer(at least in the version im running on the hero now)
-No bluetooth tethering option(i used to use this a lot on my windows phone)
-no option of installing programs on sd card( i had to root and install apps to sd, that too cache still remains on the phone memory)
-lacks basic programs when it comes from the factory, being a smart phone one would expect it to ship with basic programs like a file explorer and an office suite. but no...this phone overly depends on the market for everything.
conclusion
Although android is developing fast and seems to have a promising future, it is yet to become as good as windows mobile let alone out doing it. if i had the money i would surely buy an HD2.
We all know Android looks nicer but how does that make it superior? Wouldn't the operation system with the most features be ahead? Windows mobile will get flash 10.1 support first..windows CE usually powers all the intese 3D U.I's you see in embedded devices. Even nvidia has said they prefer the windows kernel over linux for doing 3D applications. I'm just saying the next windows mobile is obviously going be like holding a Mini Gaming PC from 2005-2006 in your pocket. Android will have to impress me with just good looks, and open source goodness..if theres an alternative that can actually do more. Dont get me wrong though, once i've booted Android on my device I never looked backed at windows again.
Whoopeedoo, a smartphone with a 3D UI. Big deal. Windows Mobile is horrible on Battery Life, I had a Windows Mobile PDA and it was in standby after a full charge, and it just drained like crazy yet it was idle.
Android is open source. It can be extended, edited and used for any task - It powers some eBook readers. Windows Mobile is crap, it's based on Windows NT Kernel (yes, that's correct) and you can't develop apps for WM unless you learn all the .NET garbage.
FACT: Android supports Bluetooth File Transfer via custom APK.
Go get a HTC Hero or HTC Dream with Quickoffice if you want some office app on your phone. Who would want to type a school assignment on their phone anyway?
I'll be a linux and android supporter, I'm not going to be corrupted with Windows Mobile. I use Windows CE + Linux on my Jornada HPC, so I'll have a shot at porting Android over to it.
@above
whatever suits you dude. For me, yes i can live with android(till i can afford the HD2) but the experience is not as pleasing as it was on the win mobile platform. As far as battery life goes, i have never had any issue with win mob, its pretty much the same as android...... well at least for my usage.
NO the android 1.5 that i currently run on the HERO does not support bluetooth file transfer or tethering even via a custom apk, although the much acclaimed 2.0 and newer versions do. But sadly there hasn't yet been any official release from HTC and the leaked roms though good (thanks to the efforts of the devs) aren't stable enough for my daily usage. In the end it all boils down to personal preference and your needs, whats superior and whats not doesn't matter really.
Coburn64 said:
Whoopeedoo, a smartphone with a 3D UI. Big deal. Windows Mobile is horrible on Battery Life, I had a Windows Mobile PDA and it was in standby after a full charge, and it just drained like crazy yet it was idle.
Android is open source. It can be extended, edited and used for any task - It powers some eBook readers. Windows Mobile is crap, it's based on Windows NT Kernel (yes, that's correct) and you can't develop apps for WM unless you learn all the .NET garbage.
FACT: Android supports Bluetooth File Transfer via custom APK.
Go get a HTC Hero or HTC Dream with Quickoffice if you want some office app on your phone. Who would want to type a school assignment on their phone anyway?
I'll be a linux and android supporter, I'm not going to be corrupted with Windows Mobile. I use Windows CE + Linux on my Jornada HPC, so I'll have a shot at porting Android over to it.
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Yeah, I'm just saying the next high end windows phones will bring mobile smartphones into the next level. It will support higher res 1200x600 screens ,multiple screen support, being able to output movies, and UI to your TV..making it a true portable media device. You'll basically have a xbox 360/Zune/PC in your pocket.
hers what to do
send me your tatoo
ill send you my htc touch mk 1
fair swap
you get windows
i get anotheR lovely android device !!
(( no but seriously the apps you want i can sort of agree with, file managers on android are a whole new thing when your used to win-mob, maybe try linda file manager or astro its just a getting used to process... or we can swap ! ))
=====PEACE=====
eldrid said:
@above
whatever suits you dude. For me, yes i can live with android(till i can afford the HD2) but the experience is not as pleasing as it was on the win mobile platform. As far as battery life goes, i have never had any issue with win mob, its pretty much the same as android...... well at least for my usage.
NO the android 1.5 that i currently run on the HERO does not support bluetooth file transfer or tethering even via a custom apk, although the much acclaimed 2.0 and newer versions do. But sadly there hasn't yet been any official release from HTC and the leaked roms though good (thanks to the efforts of the devs) aren't stable enough for my daily usage. In the end it all boils down to personal preference and your needs, whats superior and whats not doesn't matter really.
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Noted, I guess I misread your post as "OMG Android ****, WM pwns". Sorry if I offended you.
I'm sure if people wanted to, they could make a Win Mobile UI for android... but in my opinion, Android has a better feature set and can be hacked more than Windows Mobile can.
Hey i wasn't offended. Any way i agree the win mob UI is ****ty, its just the way the platform works that makes me like it, its very much like the windows pc that we use and are so overly familiar with. May be i will eventually get used to android.
As far as hacking goes....well no one has been able to root the tattoo or the droid eris yet...but almost all win mob devices at least have a soft spl out there.
Again a phone is meant to satisfy an almost unique set of needs of each individual, so yes its all personal preference.
I love the market on the android though..tons of free applications and in future if i had to buy a phone i would always choose a win mob or android phone...had a bad experience with symbian and i simply don't like the i-phone.
True. The iPhone UI is too simple, Windows Mobile had me going around in circles wondering how to send files to another device, and Android is just a "little slice of heaven". Again, that's my two cents, but yes, if any hardcore WM hacker wants a challenge, try porting WM to the HTC Click.
normally such porting is very hard if not impossible as drivers for the tattoo are made to be used with android 1.6, writing drivers from scratch for windows is going to be a royal pain in the @$$ for most developers.
Morning all,
I've got my hands on something for testing but I just gone and confused myself between CE and WinMo...
Has anyone here heard of Maplins MID? (It's not a phone, just a Mobile Internet Device using WiFi) It's correct / device id is A10JQ MID and can be found on google for full specs... only costs £70 though.
My question to pose to all the brains on XDA Developers: What can be done to upgrade a device like this?
It comes with some reasonable features, but is no where near as powerful as a decent WinMo phone like my HTC Touch. I have developed some stupid little apps using .NET and despite getting .NET CF to install on the device, it still won't run the .NET mobile apps.
Is there somewhere I can look at information for ripping / modifying the ROM like I do with my phone?
Specs-wise, it's very similar to the HTC Magician (M500) but with a better screen (it has the same SIP/Keyboard). Obviously there's no GSM hardware but that seems to make the device quicker to operate.
The WiFi may have been an after thought; there's an expansion slot for SD-Cards which I am using for storage, however there is no other visible slot, yet the WiFi is powered by a SD-IO card (presumably internal). The annoying part is that the WiFi is switched off by default, and there's a fumbled routine for switching it back on using the device's 'custom' menu system. Windows CE has it's own controls to do this but there's no menus. (Think parents trying to use this thing).
Any thoughts you guys have would be appreciated. Has anyone else got one yet and found what's compatible / or not?
Thanks,
I have heard of it.
Is it win ce core?
It wont run many apps
flyboy
CE Core?
It's definitely not as good as the 6.5 ROM on my touch hd, but whats confusing me is that some of the pieces of software on there are much more advanced than the older CE devices that I've got. The system properties say:
- Microsoft Windows CE Version 5.00 (Build 1400)
- Processor Type: Telechips, ARM926-TCC79X
It's got plenty of RAM for a mobile internet browser, and browses the Internet quicker than my touch hd... well it brings the pages up quicker! It has no flash video support but uses core player to allow some access to you tube.
I read up mostly on developing my devices using .NET - from what I got; Windows Mobile is a 'fork' version of CE developed mainly with mobile GSM/Wireless devices in mind, but is compatible with CE applications. The compatibility implications are mostly to do with form-factors (layout). But I've found that I can't even get Total Commander to work!
I would just like to update to something more compatible / customisable... I suppose that's just the developer in me?
erm...
windows mobile is based on ce.
Is it that you want to run different apps on the device?
flyboy
Hy!
I think its an normal Windows CE like it runs on thousends of PNA devices.....the only Diffrerence is that the Mapplin is "DesktopFree" by default....( you can also make every WinCE PNA "DesktopFree" )......
So in Google you can find a lot of Software (Apps) for Windows CE......
MFG
Wwesome price for a device like this, i wish they sold it here
Since my old touch pro phone only can be controlled with the keyboard i was wondering if i could make a small webserver with it.
If possible i would also use the camera on the phone as a security cam. wich can be viewed from the webserver.
I know it works on linux but i don`t know if linux wil run in that way on the phone
By Linux on the phone I assume you're referring to Android. Last I checked there were no camera drivers for Android on the Touch Pro.
However, a quick Google and I've found http://www.ateksoft.com/ for WinMo. I have no idea how good it is as I've never used it myself and it's not a free product, but it might be something to check out.
If you do try it out post back and let us know what it's like.
you mean it works with linux?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640785
ubuntu (rhobuntu) for your touch pro
now have fun with it and tell us, if it works
BikerBoy030 said:
you mean it works with linux?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640785
ubuntu (rhobuntu) for your touch pro
now have fun with it and tell us, if it works
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i've used rhobuntu before
its great and definitely works
webserver should work too, but donno if it will work well given the speed of the device...
I use FtpCE. It's a very cool and very simple ftp client. Just search for it, there's a thread at xda. You can try VIO for the security camera.
server
This is good idea
there is a small webserver with a subset of php too for windows mobile.
http://mobileleap.net/hph/
it is just a little bit old.