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Phone got a whole lot of HTC Updates this morning from the google play store

HTC Dot View App
HTC Gallery App
HTC Guide App
HTC Sense TV App
HTC Service Pack
ZOE

Odd.. I notice these having updates, but they don't get listed in with the available updates in the "My apps" section in Google Play.
If you go to the apps individually in Google Play though, it shows an "update" button (clicking the other apps by this developer link is helpful in finding the others BTW).
This sounds familiar for some system apps, but not others (many Google apps auto-updated when I first activated the phone, even before I could get to the UI to turn off auto-updating). Anyone found a way to actually find -all- apps that have updates?

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Odd.. I notice these having updates, but they don't get listed in with the available updates in the "My apps" section in Google Play.
If you go to the apps individually in Google Play though, it shows an "update" button (clicking the other apps by this developer link is helpful in finding the others BTW).
This sounds familiar for some system apps, but not others (many Google apps auto-updated when I first activated the phone, even before I could get to the UI to turn off auto-updating). Anyone found a way to actually find -all- apps that have updates?
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Oh man I hate the autoupdating, I always turn that off, I like to be in control of that. I don't know why that setting doesnt save when you get a new phone or wipe your device.

The updates may be rolling out in phases. I recipes those updates yesterday afternoon while I was setting g the phone up for the first time.

Restart your phone and you'll get them

[Q] App Updates All Missing

XT1097 - AT&T Version. When I go to My Apps in Play Store it only shows an update for an app if I've previously downloaded that app manually. Otherwise I have to search out the app, but when I find it it does show an update available in both the search list and when I click on the app. Example, I had not previously downloaded Hangouts and so it did not show under the update available section or all section under my apps, but when I search "Hangouts" it shows update instead of free in search list, and update and open as options when I click on it.
Finding this weird, I reset the phone and logged into another google account where I had never downloaded any android apps.... and the phone showed exactly zero updates available. Same thing happens whether I check immediately on reset phone (before new version of play store is installed) and after play store has been updated.
I ended up just manually searching through all apps by name, and then every google made and motorola made apps and it found 40 total updates (up from 13 from my first account, and zero with my second account)
Any idea whats going on here? Shouldn't all apps that have updates available show under my apps whether I have ever manually downloaded them or not?

So let me reduce my question then: if an android phone comes pre installed with an app that your google account has never downloaded, should the phone show an update for that app under my apps without manually searching?

njs05 said:
So let me reduce my question then: if an android phone comes pre installed with an app that your google account has never downloaded, should the phone show an update for that app under my apps without manually searching?
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Yes, it should... BUT... It seems that all of moto's apps are strangely exempt from that rule.

I need bloatware list

Can anyone give me a list of bloatware that I can remove/disable? please note I will not root my tablet

Anything that you can remove without root, is safe to remove. It's up to you to decide whether you need or want an app. What extra stuff is preloaded depends on your region.

You can not remove any bloadware without rooting your device. I mostly remove high data usage apps like Samsung link, google MUSIC, book.. . And other google apps which im not use them and Microsoft Excel,word etc. You can check and remove apps with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyapps.txtoolbox

GidiK said:
Anything that you can remove without root, is safe to remove. It's up to you to decide whether you need or want an app. What extra stuff is preloaded depends on your region.
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Not exactly true. For example, it is possible to disable "Galaxy Apps" without root by simply going to application manager and clicking "Disable" button. However, doing so will cause anything installed through "Galaxy Apps" marketplace to fail to update. Like Microsoft Office apps, for one example. The app itself will say "New version available", but clicking on "Get It" button will just silently fail.

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Not exactly true. For example, it is possible to disable "Galaxy Apps" without root by simply going to application manager and clicking "Disable" button. However, doing so will cause anything installed through "Galaxy Apps" marketplace to fail to update. Like Microsoft Office apps, for one example. The app itself will say "New version available", but clicking on "Get It" button will just silently fail.
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I was talking about removing, not just disabling. The bloatware, like e.g. the pizza and hotel apps included in the German firmware, can be removed like normal apps via the app drawer. I would indeed think that disabling system apps like "Galaxy Apps" is riskier.
The situation with the pre-installed Office apps is a bit weird: you can't update them via the Google Play, even though Google Play indicates that an update is available. Somehow Google thinks that these apps are incompatible with our device and refuses to install or update them. Even though they are pre-installed and our device clearly is compatible. This happens even if you haven't disabled "Galaxy Apps". But you do indeed need "Galaxy Apps" if you do want to update them, since that store does see our device as compatible. Though in my experience, updates arrive in "Galaxy Apps" much later.

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I was talking about removing, not just disabling. The bloatware, like e.g. the pizza and hotel apps included in the German firmware, can be removed like normal apps via the app drawer. I would indeed think that disabling system apps like "Galaxy Apps" is riskier.
The situation with the pre-installed Office apps is a bit weird: you can't update them via the Google Play, even though Google Play indicates that an update is available. Somehow Google thinks that these apps are incompatible with our device and refuses to install or update them. Even though they are pre-installed and our device clearly is compatible. This happens even if you haven't disabled "Galaxy Apps". But you do indeed need "Galaxy Apps" if you do want to update them, since that store does see our device as compatible. Though in my experience, updates arrive in "Galaxy Apps" much later.
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What if I disable Galaxy Apps and remove Office apps and reinstall it through Google Play will it update properly?

Ruriko said:
What if I disable Galaxy Apps and remove Office apps and reinstall it through Google Play will it update properly?
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No. Google Play has marked the Office applications as incompatible with our device, so I suspect you can't reinstall it from Google Play.

Is there a link to a description of these apps/packages anywhere? I'd like to take a look at one before I disable my stuff... Or do I need to google them one by one? I downloaded a package info tool but as for descriptions, it just has a button that says "Google It" and it just shoves the query into my search app...which isn't exactly what I expected when downloading the app.

klear6 said:
Is there a link to a description of these apps/packages anywhere? I'd like to take a look at one before I disable my stuff... Or do I need to google them one by one? I downloaded a package info tool but as for descriptions, it just has a button that says "Google It" and it just shoves the query into my search app...which isn't exactly what I expected when downloading the app.
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I hear you Klear, all us simple users need is a list of things which are safe to disable on a stock tablet running Android 7. I've disabled the following and things seem to be OK:-
-Dictionary
-Drive
-Excel
-Google Play & Movies
-Hangouts
-Memo
-OneDrive
-OneNote
-Photos
-Powerpoint
-SideSync
-Word
I suspect there are many more?

Everything Samsung related, I'd say.
I can send you my list if you wish.

GidiK said:
No. Google Play has marked the Office applications as incompatible with our device, so I suspect you can't reinstall it from Google Play.
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I don't think that's completely true. I regularly receive updates via play store at least on the beta channel

Which ROM removes Google play services?

I'm seeing update to 604 OTA on my brand new Remix mini but I had read that the new releases remove Google mobile services, basically ruining a huge reason people buy this device. If I want to continue using Google mobile services should I just stick with the stock ROM and work with the limitations and the various bug fixes?

Wow that was several updates ago. The mini still has Google Services. It was only removed to overlay some ground work and to finish talks with Google. If it does disappear after you update, just go to the Remix Central app to download the service back onto the mini.
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Wow that was several updates ago. The mini still has Google Services. It was only removed to overlay some ground work and to finish talks with Google. If it does disappear after you update, just go to the Remix Central app to download the service back onto the mini.
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Thxx Amora, that's what I thought but I'm on the device right now and there is a big pop up warning on the 604 update that says if you agree to this update, Google Play services and all your apps will be disabled and removed. You can choose not to upgrade and continue using these services.
I assume this is an error in the warning from what you are stating. I'm updating it despite the warning and will see.

So just to confirm, this device still has Play Store / GAPPS? They have a 40% off special and I want one.
The process of rooting the device is still a bit unpleasant, and as such I can't tweak options and patches to get APKs working. I'd rather have the Play Store outright.

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mttrwlnd said:
So just to confirm, this device still has Play Store / GAPPS? They have a 40% off special and I want one.
The process of rooting the device is still a bit unpleasant, and as such I can't tweak options and patches to get APKs working. I'd rather have the Play Store outright.
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Yes. The remix can still use Google apps. You just have to install Google services and the apps yourself instead of having them come pre-loaded now.
And as is often the case with hardware, the box will come with an old version of the os installed. The first time you hook it up it will check for updates and you will get the warning since you are moving from a factory version of the os which has the apps installed to a new version which does not.
Once the update completes, open the remix central app from the drawer (or desktop if you have a shortcut there) and scroll the bottom to find Google services installer. Download and follow the instructions, and when it tells you to - reboot. Once that's done open the "app store" app (also in app drawer) and install/update Google play (handy dandy search in the top right) and the icon will reappear on your desktop/in the app drawer if for some reason it vanished in the first place.
Note if you previously set up settings/accounts - you will need to do it again (so you have to give the store your Google account again as this was wiped out during the update).

ZTE AXON M how to convert Chinese version to English

Hello I got ZTE AXON M MODEL Z999 as gift... Butits a Chinese version. Although I have changed its language to english but still apps showing many messages in Chinese like weather app still showing weather and time in Chinese.
Also there is no google play store so,
How I convert this totally english?
And how to install new apps as there is no Google play store?

Hello Ikhalud,
First be sure you have the latest version of the system (Axon M CN 2.10 / Security patch 01 Feb. 2019). You can then install google play from the ZTE Market, works fine (use the photographic traduction from google traduction app with another phone for exemple or just type google play in search bar from ZTE Market). Some of the pre-installed chinese apps are un-installable, just go to settings, applications, and hit the uninstall button if available. You might want to keep some of them, like the gaming apps which get you a joystick like screen on one of the screens to use with your game on the other screen. If you reset the system you'll get everything back in case, so don't worry.
Then you can use another launcher, like Lawnchair or Nova in order to get rid of the rest of the chinese look. I think that Lawnchair doesn't display the names of the shortcuts in one of the display modes, Landscape if I'm right (don't know why, maybe it will be solved in an update).
If you need to install other languages, use More Locales 2 app from play store. You have to use ADB command from a computer connected to your phone with debugging on to grant permission to the app, type in an admin command terminal:
adb shell pm grant com.langs.locales android.permission.CHANGE_CONFIGURATION
Of course you have to have all drivers installed for you phone on your computer. Google is your god if you need more help, like always!
Enjoy your new phone, it's much better than any flexible screen one, the real way to go. Too bad it gets very limited support from ZTE, probably no more updates and no real development from our small user's community. But I keep hoping someone get us LineageOS or Mokee running on it.