Anybody come across any info regarding what Verizon can/will do to lock down the Nexus 6? Also, if I purchase an unbranded Nexus directly from Google and take it to Verizon for service, do I have to let them put any bloat or do anything to lock my phone down? I really like the Nexus 6 and since a OPO is out of the question, being on Verizon, the N6 is most appealing to me. I have an S4 and really like it but I'm ready to move on from Sammy.
"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." - Galatians 5:1
I don't think Verizon can add anything to it. If by some corrupt chance they are, they cannot do anything to you if you bring your own device.
US carriers have asinine power. But, you should be safe either way.
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I don't think Verizon can add anything to it. If by some corrupt chance they are, they cannot do anything to you if you bring your own device.
US carriers have asinine power. But, you should be safe either way.
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I can't say anything about the nexus 6, but I can say that I bought the Galaxy Nexus on release date for Verizon they had it loaded with ISIS ( locked from using Wallet ) and My Verizon app, both of which without rooting you couldn't remove, just disable. So they WILL probably install their Softcard NFC paying app ( New name for ISIS, for obvious reasons ) and their in house Verizon apps they install on the rest of their phones. I just want the phone to come out through them. I'm locked to them due to employer, but I get discounts on phones through them too, so I'm gonna wait it out just a little bit.
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I can't say anything about the nexus 6, but I can say that I bought the Galaxy Nexus on release date for Verizon they had it loaded with ISIS ( locked from using Wallet ) and My Verizon app, both of which without rooting you couldn't remove, just disable. So they WILL probably install their Softcard NFC paying app ( New name for ISIS, for obvious reasons ) and their in house Verizon apps they install on the rest of their phones. I just want the phone to come out through them. I'm locked to them due to employer, but I get discounts on phones through them too, so I'm gonna wait it out just a little bit.
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But the bootloader wasn't locked. And it wasn't a unified phone.
The play store had wallet locked from being installed on it. Not the phone. Part of the deal with Google.
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I'm more worried about when they are going to release it. Artem from android police said he's heard from the beginning that Verizon would lag behind all carriers with their release, and that it may even be in 2015. Along with all the mysterious things like google leaving out verizon on some of the page updates I'm starting to wonder if it is true.
Even if they did modify it in any fashion, I doubt any of the hardware is changed. Download the Nexus Factory Image, unlock the bootloader, and flash it. Instant stock/unmodified Nexus 6.
If purchased from the Play Store, I really don't think there's anything Verizon can do to muck up the phone when you activate it. Can't imagine there's any protocol in place for the phone to become "locked down" or anything when it gets activated on Verizon. At worst, I've heard some rumors that Lollipop has a function that can allow carrier-specific apps to be downloaded right away from the Play Store when it's activated on a particular carrier service, but that said apps could still be removed like any other.
From the looks of things, Play Store Nexus 6 devices should work just fine when you pop in a Verizon SIM card. Now, for those wanting to get a subsidized version of the phone, yeah, you might have to wait a bit longer for Verizon to sell it. It's a little odd to me that Verizon is seemingly opting to wait to sell it, themselves, compared to everyone else, but from what we've seen, the phone does, in fact, work on their network, so if you're willing to spend the extra cash on the Play Store version (or, if you're like me, stuck on a contract for several more months and HAVING to pay full retail price anyway), that might be the way to go.
I was lucky enough to get my pre order through the Play Store yesterday and immediately went and asked in Google's Nexus Q&A if Verizon support was going to work out of box... Ive attached a screenie.
It's a Nexus. It won't be locked down. It may come with some bloat but easily removed. If by some infinitesimal chance they do have it locked down, well I'm on month to month so bye - bye Verizon.
If you aren't going to root & rom, what the hell is the point of buying a Nexus anyway?
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Anybody come across any info regarding what Verizon can/will do to lock down the Nexus 6? Also, if I purchase an unbranded Nexus directly from Google and take it to Verizon for service, do I have to let them put any bloat or do anything to lock my phone down? I really like the Nexus 6 and since a OPO is out of the question, being on Verizon, the N6 is most appealing to me. I have an S4 and really like it but I'm ready to move on from Sammy.
"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." - Galatians 5:1
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Anybody come across any info regarding what Verizon can/will do to lock down the Nexus 6? Also, if I purchase an unbranded Nexus directly from Google and take it to Verizon for service, do I have to let them put any bloat or do anything to lock my phone down? I really like the Nexus 6 and since a OPO is out of the question, being on Verizon, the N6 is most appealing to me. I have an S4 and really like it but I'm ready to move on from Sammy.
"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." - Galatians 5:1
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But the bootloader wasn't locked. And it wasn't a unified phone.
The play store had wallet locked from being installed on it. Not the phone. Part of the deal with Google.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry if that was confusing, it was very very late.
Last I saw was this
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2lhrm2/detailed_information_on_status_of_the_nexus_6_and/
doesn't really clear the mud any, but doesn't sound too surprising either if it's true, especially considering verizon
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Last I saw was this
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2lhrm2/detailed_information_on_status_of_the_nexus_6_and/
doesn't really clear the mud any, but doesn't sound too surprising either if it's true, especially considering verizon
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I dunno man, reddit is suspect IMO and I was under the impression Verizon had already approved the Nexus 6 for their network. I doubt the reddit post is reliable though I suppose it might be. I think I read on the Nexus 6 was on the approved list on the Verizon website, a customer service rep said it was, though I could have read it somewhere else.
"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." - Galatians 5:1
People, Don't believe everything you read on reddit. The phone is definitely going to work on Verizon, the only up in the air question is when you can buy a subsidized one.
Also Verizon is not adding bloatware and definitely not locking it down.
BTW I work for Verizon and this is what I do know.
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People, Don't believe everything you read on reddit. The phone is definitely going to work on Verizon, the only up in the air question is when you can buy a subsidized one.
Also Verizon is not adding bloatware and definitely not locking it down.
BTW I work for Verizon and this is what I do know.
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You telling me I can buy one outright from the Play Store or even T-Mobile(and not get service) and walk into a Verizon store and get the N6 added on my account without issue?
"Your words were found and I ate them, And Your words became for me a joy and the delight of my heart; For I have been called by Your name, O LORD God of hosts." - Jeremiah 15:16
i popped a Verizon sim in and it works fine. Well getting LTE anyway.
I don't know about the Verizon store Nexus 6, but Verizon can't really do anything to lock down the phone from play store unless the next android upgrade has to go through Verizon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
For those wondering if the Nexus 6 will work on Verizon or not. Here's proof it does work.
Now the state of the carrier subsidized version of the Nexus 6 and if it will be different then the Play edition is still up in the air. Swear to god if the delay is so they can lock it down and throw their logos all over the phone....
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You telling me I can buy one outright from the Play Store or even T-Mobile(and not get service) and walk into a Verizon store and get the N6 added on my account without issue?
"Your words were found and I ate them, And Your words became for me a joy and the delight of my heart; For I have been called by Your name, O LORD God of hosts." - Jeremiah 15:16
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Playstore for sure, as for T mobile I don't know.
There is a Verizon store next to my gym so I went in there tonight to ask some questions. While the guy did not know anymore then I did about when the N6 would be available through Verizon, he did confirm that purchasing one through the Play Store and mayyybbbeee even through T Mobile and just bringing it in for service wouldn't be a problem.
"Your words were found and I ate them, And Your words became for me a joy and the delight of my heart; For I have been called by Your name, O LORD God of hosts." - Jeremiah 15:16
I don't think many people question whether the Nexus 6 will work on Verizon's network. I think those with the Verizon questions (such as myself) are looking to get the phone on contract. My Verizon contract is up Nov 21st and I'd love to get a stock Nexus 6 on contract with no bloatware. If I can't do that I'll probably look closer at the Droid Turbo or wait a little while longer on getting a new phone. Hate to wait too long though on the phone subsidy model.
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Sorry if this has been asked before but will buying the nexus 6 through tmobile(to make payments) be the same version as the google play one. I dont want all that tmobile bloatware on it but never bought a nexus via a carrier?
At this point no one has any idea, phones not even out
I got my nexus 5 at T-Mobile.. Its stock no bloatware. Even came in a google branded box. I highly doubt they would add bloatware as it would slow the update process if each carrier had its bloat on their own version.
^ yup. I bought my N4 from tmobile directly. It was stock android goodness, no tmobile my account crap on it at all lol
xxfirerican said:
Sorry if this has been asked before but will buying the nexus 6 through tmobile(to make payments) be the same version as the google play one. I dont want all that tmobile bloatware on it but never bought a nexus via a carrier?
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Nexus never comes with carrier bloat.
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At this point no one has any idea, phones not even out
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At this point everyone noticed you have never owned a nexus.
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Galaxy Nexus for Sprint and Verizon had bloatware iirc
Nexus devices through T-Mobile never go through any sort of carrier tampering. Others I cannot comment on but T-Mobile has a strict and well established relationship with Google with the carrier sale of these devices.
The fact that T-Mobile is working with Google Engineers to make Wi-Fi Calling work with their help is insisting they will not tamper with the OS on their end, that if they want anything done they will do it through the official arm of Google Engineers.
T-Mobile is likely the safest carrier to buy a Nexus device from, count on it.
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Nexus never comes with carrier bloat.
At this point everyone noticed you have never owned a nexus.
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lol this guy
I'm assuming you never bought a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint or Verizon.
At this point nobody has any idea whether carriers will add bloat to the Nexus 6. It's foolish to believe they wouldn't try...and considering the carriers have never really sold Nexus devices without it, the question is whether Google won out and got the carriers to sell the devices without it or the carriers won out.
I had the nexus 5 through sprint and there was not any bloat added. Just pure google greatness
I'm hoping it's a bit of Good/Bad News. Bad news being that YES, the carriers will auto-install crap, but that it is easily removable (hopefully) But knowing AT&T (not the OP's concern) they'll screww their customers.
Ars Technica Article http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
Setup in Lollipop is also taking on the responsibility of pre-installed carrier apps (aka crapware) with a new feature called "Play Auto Install." Rather than permanently storing carrier apps on the system partition, which currently is the only way to have apps persist across device wipes, Play Auto Install will download carrier apps during the setup process. This will put them in the data partition and allow them to be completely uninstalled by users. The download process then allows carriers to change the apps they would like to preload on a device without having to issue a system update. Pre-installed apps on carrier-controlled devices are never going away, but with Play Auto Install, Google is giving both sides more options. Everyone wins—assuming carriers stop installing things on the system partition.
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I'm hoping it's a bit of Good/Bad News. Bad news being that YES, the carriers will auto-install crap, but that it is easily removable (hopefully) But knowing AT&T (not the OP's concern) they'll screww their customers.
Ars Technica Article http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
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That quote doesn't say the nexus 6 will have bloat.
Des on Twitter said it's unlocked and no bloat.
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That quote doesn't say the nexus 6 will have bloat.
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No it doesn't, but since we were just guessing, the article is showing that Google has developed an additional, albeit easier, built-in means of installing the carrier bloat. As for AT&T, their corporate culture is to lock them down and install crapware, so I'm not too optimistic that I would get a pure Nexus. I'm just hopeful that AT&T would take the easy and faster route by using the built-in Google process and that it would be removable.
pfft, damn AT&T
So, this thread has 2 purposes.
1) I'm sort of confused as to when AT&T is supposed to get this phone. It just says "Coming soon" on their web site. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem waiting. I just dislike the mystery of it all. Most people are talking about the Nexus 6 release on the Play Store, which seems to be an enigma in and of itself. But how is there no clear indication when it'll be available on AT&T (or Verizon or whatever)? Why even put the web page up if everything is such a mystery?
2) I'd like to use this thread for someone to post (including myself) when they DO see that the Nexus 6 is available for pre-order or just plain order. I keep refreshing the page like a dope (don't worry, it's not manual) and I wonder why I'm even doing it. Is the pre-order page going to magically appear one day? Does anyone have an estimate as to when? Or should I just drop this whole pre-order idea and just go in the store sometime later in November?
Okay, that's all. Any comments are welcome.
T-Mobile is officially not doing a pre-order. I suspect the same is true of all carriers, even if they haven't announced that fact.
The rumor (with some convincing back-up) is that they'll be available to order outright from carriers next week. We'll see if that's true.
At this point I'm starting to think that carriers are not going to do preorders and just sell it when device is in stock. Hopefully around November 12th like we heard with some of the other carriers.
Well I stopped in an AT&T store today just for the heck of it and asked one of the techs there if he knew anything about a possible Nexus 6 availability date. He said he had no clue. 'Just a lot of rumors right now". He said he's been scouring the Internet for more information.
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i work at an att store, and i try my best to learn EVERYTHING about the upcoming nexus 6. but we only get official information pretty much the time you guys would, with a few exceptions. nothing so far.
Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I do not see the point of buying this device through AT&T? I mean unless you want a contract or next. Wouldn't it be smart to buy it completely unlocked via Google Play? Will it be the same version? I know AT&T locks down all of their bootloaders.
MattMJB0188 said:
Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I do not see the point of buying this device through AT&T? I mean unless you want a contract or next. Wouldn't it be smart to buy it completely unlocked via Google Play? Will it be the same version? I know AT&T locks down all of their bootloaders.
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its not hard.
contract or next: you decide to stay on att because you are satisfied with their service. you have the option to pay a 199.99 (rumored for subsidized) or 53.62 (sales tax for next) for the device with a plan for some time (2 years). you are content with the phone itself, you do not feel the need to unlock administrator privileges.
unlocked: you like to hackzor the romerino bootloaderino and jump around between carriers for your amusement and 649.99 is chump change to you
MattMJB0188 said:
Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I do not see the point of buying this device through AT&T? I mean unless you want a contract or next. Wouldn't it be smart to buy it completely unlocked via Google Play? Will it be the same version? I know AT&T locks down all of their bootloaders.
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Not all bootloaders. M8 is fully unlockable through htc's official website. S-off does require some hackz but it wouldn't even be possible if at&t didn't show us to unlock through an official channel
kyan~ said:
its not hard.
contract or next: you decide to stay on att because you are satisfied with their service. you have the option to pay a 199.99 (rumored for subsidized) or 53.62 (sales tax for next) for the device with a plan for some time (2 years). you are content with the phone itself, you do not feel the need to unlock administrator privileges.
unlocked: you like to hackzor the romerino bootloaderino and jump around between carriers for your amusement and 649.99 is chump change to you
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Keep us updated. Thanks for letting me know I need 53.62 to get mine whenever they release it
MattMJB0188 said:
Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I do not see the point of buying this device through AT&T? I mean unless you want a contract or next. Wouldn't it be smart to buy it completely unlocked via Google Play? Will it be the same version? I know AT&T locks down all of their bootloaders.
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I am planning on buying mine from ATT on the Next 12 simply because I dont have $650+tax to spend on a new phone right now with Christmas coming up. Also I need to actually use my Next upgrade every 12-13 months to make it worthwhile, otherwise the cost of having Next actually costs the same or more than buying the phone outright or on a 2-year. Whereas if I upgrade every 12 months I only pay $400 for a phone, instead of $600+ for a normal price on an off contract flagship every year. Makes sense to me saving $200 a year. But if ATT locks the bootloader down so that I cant simply do a "Fastboot OEM Unlock" or have an unlock method available right away then I wont be buying the ATT version. Having a locked Nexus would just be heresy.
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T-Mobile is officially not doing a pre-order. I suspect the same is true of all carriers, even if they haven't announced that fact.
The rumor (with some convincing back-up) is that they'll be available to order outright from carriers next week. We'll see if that's true.
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I have a friend who works at a T -Mobile in MD and she said it will be in stock on the 14th.
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i work at an att store, and i try my best to learn EVERYTHING about the upcoming nexus 6. but we only get official information pretty much the time you guys would, with a few exceptions. nothing so far.
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I work on Customer Care (Call Center) and pretty much all customer-related info are revealed at the same time that AT&T as company acknowledged publicly, although some of us are trying our best to give actual information (and trying not to speculate like some other AT&T depts have been doing unfortunately and personally I feel ashamed about it), so bear with us that has NO control on information and why AT&T does not give details.
Keep in mind that this is the first time for AT&T for the Nexus brand and probably the prefer delay that screwing up.
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MattMJB0188 said:
Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I do not see the point of buying this device through AT&T? I mean unless you want a contract or next. Wouldn't it be smart to buy it completely unlocked via Google Play? Will it be the same version? I know AT&T locks down all of their bootloaders.
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I believe that although not a complete privilege as Apple, AT&T might let the exception that Google and Motorola handles all direct updates on the OS side of the device so no worries here.
Bootloaders locked are really common, even the previous Nexus devices did came with bootloader locked and just with proper acknowledgement that you WILL LOSE your warranty, Motorola, nor Google CANNOT deny root access to the device, but might resverse the right to look into your reason on why you are requesting a unlock on the bootloader (ALL THIS assuming all follow HTC's policies on customer registering as developers to request the bootloader unlock).
The other advantages is the AT&T Next in which gives you a economic "relief" until you are ready to pay completely the device or sacrificing two years for have the device under a special price.
watch att encrypting the bootloader to hell and back and loading the system partition with garbage apps nobody wants
I'm patiently waiting to pick it off the playstore(don't want a tainted Nexus) [emoji6]
Like I've said before, I just don't see the point of the "Nexus" if AT&T is going to lock it down. If this is the case then Google might as well abandon the whole concept of a Nexus device. Re-brand it and be done with it.
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I am planning on buying mine from ATT on the Next 12 simply because I dont have $650+tax to spend on a new phone right now with Christmas coming up. Also I need to actually use my Next upgrade every 12-13 months to make it worthwhile, otherwise the cost of having Next actually costs the same or more than buying the phone outright or on a 2-year. Whereas if I upgrade every 12 months I only pay $400 for a phone, instead of $600+ for a normal price on an off contract flagship every year. Makes sense to me saving $200 a year. But if ATT locks the bootloader down so that I cant simply do a "Fastboot OEM Unlock" or have an unlock method available right away then I wont be buying the ATT version. Having a locked Nexus would just be heresy.
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When I looked at the Next plan last time, I thought I have to pay the whole price of the phone before I can upgrade. So If I buy a phone worth $600 on the Next plan. In 2 years I pay $400. Can I upgrade to new phone without paying rest of $200? Doesn't sound right to me. Can anyone confirm this please?
EDIT: Went to ATT website and looked closely. In 12 months, I can trade in the phone and remaining cost of the phone will be waived off. It does look pretty promising except the locked bootloader part.
All Nexus devices have a locked bootloader. You have to unlock it yourself, which you WILL be able to do with 99.99999999999% certainty.
Good news, everyone! Google announced this on the Play Store:
The Nexus 6 will also be available in AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, and U.S. Cellular stores later in November. Please check with your local carrier store for more information.
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That is good news. I mean, AT&T has had the Nexus 6 page up and live for some time now, here:
https://www.att.com/cellphones/moto...L&wtExtndSource=moto-nexus-6#fbid=9LjL8okyF7P
I'm just tired of looking at the "Coming Soon" status, lol. It would be nice to know when it will be available. Some people are saying the 12th. Others are saying the 14th. Then who knows, it may be towards the end of the month. It's all a mystery and will probably remain one until the phone is actually available for purchase.
https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/R97cSgo8bDH
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I work on Customer Care (Call Center) and pretty much all customer-related info are revealed at the same time that AT&T as company acknowledged publicly, although some of us are trying our best to give actual information (and trying not to speculate like some other AT&T depts have been doing unfortunately and personally I feel ashamed about it), so bear with us that has NO control on information and why AT&T does not give details.
Keep in mind that this is the first time for AT&T for the Nexus brand and probably the prefer delay that screwing up.
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I believe that although not a complete privilege as Apple, AT&T might let the exception that Google and Motorola handles all direct updates on the OS side of the device so no worries here.
Bootloaders locked are really common, even the previous Nexus devices did came with bootloader locked and just with proper acknowledgement that you WILL LOSE your warranty, Motorola, nor Google CANNOT deny root access to the device, but might resverse the right to look into your reason on why you are requesting a unlock on the bootloader (ALL THIS assuming all follow HTC's policies on customer registering as developers to request the bootloader unlock).
The other advantages is the AT&T Next in which gives you a economic "relief" until you are ready to pay completely the device or sacrificing two years for have the device under a special price.
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This isn't the first time AT&T has had a nexus device for sale.
However I'm curious as to how it will be handled. My main concern is locking down of the phone...which shouldn't be done (it's a nexus after all). AT&T locking down the note 4 is what is keeping me from going from my note 2 directly to the note 4.
Also, they like to gouge us on price. I'm curious what they will charge for it.
V is tight on information regarding availability at its stores. Arrrggg...
Anyone have an ideal time frame?
verizon hasnt announced it yet, so nobody knows.
Latest rumor is Verizon will not be carrying the Nexus 6. They wanted their own version. Like any other phone. Bloated apps that can't be removed, maybe even a locked bootloader. Google said NO and now maybe it won't be offered on Verizon.
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V is tight on information regarding availability at its stores. Arrrggg...
Anyone have an ideal time frame?
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It's supposedly the 13th of December, a few sites on the web are announcing this now.
rebretz000 said:
Latest rumor is Verizon will not be carrying the Nexus 6. They wanted their own version. Like any other phone. Bloated apps that can't be removed, maybe even a locked bootloader. Google said NO and now maybe it won't be offered on Verizon.
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That doesn't hold weight, google mostly allowed it to at&t . . carrier locked, custom boot animation, carrier specific bloat, even at&t branding on the device.
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That doesn't hold weight, google mostly allowed it to at&t . . carrier locked, custom boot animation, carrier specific bloat, even at&t branding on the device.
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The AT&T version is only carrier locked until you pay it off.
That's what I've heard from someone who seems to be in the know and right a lot.
http://androidspin.com/2014/12/02/r...us-6-become-available-saturday-december-13th/
I hope this is true.
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Even if this is not true.... I do feel like we're edging closer. I spoke to rep at my local store yesterday and she said that it was def coming.... Just no date. In the past we got no information whatsoever.
I hope they do come soon. I need a new Nano SIM for mine.
I'm going to love when they finally get it. As long as Verizon doesn't pull the same **** the did with the m8, and try to lock the boot loader, idc what kind of bloat it has as I'll immediately be putting a custom ROM on it. And as long as they don't brand it with that ugly vzw logo.
Sometime mid to late December. At least that's what the rumors are saying.
Im sorry if this has been asked, i tried searching. Does anybody know if there is any way to figure out where the nexus 6 comes from? I.e google play store or motorola or a carrier...
They're all the same phone
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same device yes, however im told that the nexus 6 phones from the google play store are the only ones with IMEI's listed in verizons system.
i understand all of the walk arounds to get any of the different variants of the device to work on verizon... Just want the smoothest transition possible.
i guess imei might be only way
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i understand all of the walk arounds to get any of the different variants of the device to work on verizon... Just want the smoothest transition possible.
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I too am curious about this being "all the same phones" I called Best Buy told them my I am a Verizon sob story and how I will never get the phone. So I wanted to go in and buy one out right from another carrier. they told me no dice. They said that the phones they get are sim locked to the specific carrier and that my sim would not work. Is there any truth to that or are these phones no matter if its bought from Moto, GPS or Best Buy guaranteed to work on the Big Red Machine?
I havent had much experience with BestBuy mobile personally, however from what ive read/heard.. nexus 6 devices purchased anywhere but google play store would have IMEI numbers that fall out of range of verizons system. They come up as device not recognized, now of course you can take an active nano sim and put it into the device and it will work .. it just will show up as unknown device according to verizon. It just seems to me, personally.. easiest way to get one of these to work is to have a nexus 6 from google play store.
Course, i guess all in all.... i dont really care what the phone shows up as in verizons system, just so long as it works properly... just would make me feel better if the device im using actually showed up as the device. There are a few of the devices listed on swappa for pretty reasonable now.
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I havent had much experience with BestBuy mobile personally, however from what ive read/heard.. nexus 6 devices purchased anywhere but google play store would have IMEI numbers that fall out of range of verizons system. They come up as device not recognized, now of course you can take an active nano sim and put it into the device and it will work .. it just will show up as unknown device according to verizon. It just seems to me, personally.. easiest way to get one of these to work is to have a nexus 6 from google play store.
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Thanks for the reply! Now the problem is how do u buy a unicorn on GPS. I yet to see it available on the GPS. I have seen them on Moto and actually had a white 32GB in my cart but talked myself out of it. If im gonna spend that money i want a 64GB
LakerFam0824 said:
Thanks for the reply! Now the problem is how do u buy a unicorn on GPS. I yet to see it available on the GPS. I have seen them on Moto and actually had a white 32GB in my cart but talked myself out of it. If im gonna spend that money i want a 64GB
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Thats the thing. According to their site, they make some available on Wednesday's. Id assume you have to be at the website right at 1159pm tuesday night to see if any become available, id say they sell out almost instantly. I think ive found a didifference in the actual model code printed on the box, below the XT1103 that may help. I have a Google play edition purchased through swappa.com, model 00643NAGPE. Id assume the last 3 digits GPE might stand for google play edition? Subsequently, ive seen devices from motorola be model 00643NARTL perhaps the RTL somehow denotes motorola? Either way it would seem, this particular code is what ties the device to where it actually came from.
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Thats the thing. According to their site, they make some available on Wednesday's. Id assume you have to be at the website right at 1159pm tuesday night to see if any become available, id say they sell out almost instantly. I think ive found a didifference in the actual model code printed on the box, below the XT1103 that may help. I have a Google play edition purchased through swappa.com, model 00643NAGPE. Id assume the last 3 digits GPE might stand for google play edition? Subsequently, ive seen devices from motorola be model 00643NARTL perhaps the RTL somehow denotes motorola? Either way it would seem, this particular code is what ties the device to where it actually came from.
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11:59 what time zone? Ive questioned this since i have been staying up til midnight pressing refresh!! Lol. I think i need a 12 step program!
None of the IMEI will show up in Verizon systems. Doesn't matter where you buy it from, the phone will show up as unknown device on Verizon. But it will work as long as you have a Verizon nano SIM, or cut your SIM down.
There are posts with people buying direct from Google, Motorola, TMobile, Best Buy and Amazon with no issue. The Amazon or Best Buy ones were Sprint Models, I think AT&T are locked.
Motorola had them all available yesterday again. Just keep checking they pop up all of the time. I stumbled upon it when checking the order status of my wife's Moto X. I bought mine from Moto back I'm early November and I've seen them appear more on motos site than Google play.
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Thats the thing. According to their site, they make some available on Wednesday's. Id assume you have to be at the website right at 1159pm tuesday night to see if any become available, id say they sell out almost instantly. I think ive found a didifference in the actual model code printed on the box, below the XT1103 that may help. I have a Google play edition purchased through swappa.com, model 00643NAGPE. Id assume the last 3 digits GPE might stand for google play edition? Subsequently, ive seen devices from motorola be model 00643NARTL perhaps the RTL somehow denotes motorola? Either way it would seem, this particular code is what ties the device to where it actually came from.
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not midnight. Past practice shows that Google Play sales have started right around 1:00PM eastern (adjust for your local time zone).
LakerFam0824 said:
I too am curious about this being "all the same phones" I called Best Buy told them my I am a Verizon sob story and how I will never get the phone. So I wanted to go in and buy one out right from another carrier. they told me no dice. They said that the phones they get are sim locked to the specific carrier and that my sim would not work. Is there any truth to that or are these phones no matter if its bought from Moto, GPS or Best Buy guaranteed to work on the Big Red Machine?
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not midnight. Past practice shows that Google Play sales have started right around 1:00PM eastern (adjust for your local time zone).
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interesting information, thank you I never knew that before. Perhaps I had read/was given wrong information about the IMEI's of the devices then. I have a brand new Nexus 6 from the play store on its way, purchased through swappa. I guess we will see how hard of a time I have with activation. I have a spare nano sim used within the last 30 days (out of an iphone 6 plus) however, my current device is a galaxy s4. Be an interesting conversation with whatever rep i get on the phone to activate the nexus 6.
With the 3's and 3a's on T-Mobile, I am almost certain they will; but I have not heard/seen anything official. Hoping someone with some inside knowledge can confirm or deny.
Really hoping they don't go back to "exclusive", or wait until the 4a comes out to sell it on other carriers.
Their contract ended with Verizon so it would be very unwise of Google to limit the carriers it sells its devices on.
I highly doubt they'd renew a partnership given how successful the Pixel has been lately, and their move to sell the Pixel 3a at other carriers highly suggests that their premium devices will follow the same trend
If that isn't enough confirmation then I don't know what is. Their exclusivity with Verizon was initially a great thing to get things rolling, but with each iteration of the Pixel following that, it's really done more harm than good.
And with them supposedly talking to D ish about establishing their own full fledged carrier it seems even less likely that they wouldn't embrace other carriers too given that their new carrier would literally use TMobile and Sprint towers to comply with the 4 carrier requirement needed for a Sprint and TMobile merger.
So no, I don't have any direct information to state otherwise, but on a financial level it would be awful of Google to not endorse other carriers.
Honestly, what I'm more interested in is knowing how they plan to support Verizon's standard for 5g while complying with the others as it vastly differs... Or better yet, if it will support 5g at all
Doubts and hopes are what I started with, mate. I am well aware of the history behind the deals and partnerships.
Looking for confirmation from an inside source.
PhoenixPath said:
Doubts and hopes are what I started with, mate. I am well aware of the history behind the deals and partnerships.
Looking for confirmation from an inside source.
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I spoke to my friend at T-MOBILE and she confirmed that they will in fact be selling the 4.
It's not like it really matters since Google sells it direct anyways. Even if it was available from my carrier (AT&T in my case) I'd still buy it from Google so the carrier can't get its hands on it.
I would never buy it from a carrier. They will lock the bootloader and no root for you! Just look at the forums for the recent pixel 3a/3axl. Even if you don't plan on rooting now, it's nice to know you at least have the option should you choose to. You can also finance through Google.
The OnePlus devices may be instructive: These had bootloaders which could be unlocked after they were sim unlocked. The timing for sim unlock depended on how good a customer you were in some cases but primarily was based on having the device paid off. The smarter money if no deals were involved was simply buying from OnePlus direct because the updates are significantly faster. I would expect something similar here if it is indeed sold by Tmo.
jimv1983 said:
It's not like it really matters since Google sells it direct anyways. Even if it was available from my carrier (AT&T in my case) I'd still buy it from Google so the carrier can't get its hands on it.
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I would never buy it from a carrier. They will lock the bootloader and no root for you! Just look at the forums for the recent pixel 3a/3axl. Even if you don't plan on rooting now, it's nice to know you at least have the option should you choose to. You can also finance through Google.
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Amen!! Haven't used a carrier phone since the Nexus 6P was released!
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Amen!! Haven't used a carrier phone since the Nexus 6P was released!
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It is true !
The page is live, but if they really lock the bootloader, you can count me out! I'm still pissed about the fingerprint reader anyway!
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/google-phone-deals
JeepFreak said:
The page is live, but if they really lock the bootloader, you can count me out! I'm still pissed about the fingerprint reader anyway!
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/google-phone-deals
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Well, if it's fully paid for, I don't see why they won't let you unlock it. Unless you're going for a plan, which is completely understandable. Not everyone has a grand to drop at one time. But at the same time, you can't really gripe if they don't let you unlock a device you haven't fully paid for.