Gsam vs stock battery setting - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

I'm having trouble diagnosing battery drain. My stock battery app says Touchdown is staying awake for six plus hours an accounts for more than 20% of battery drain, but the gsam app registers Touchdown as barely having an impact on battery drain.
Even when I force touchdown to quit, the cpu usage continues to tick. Is this just the stock battery app malfunctioning, or is touchdown really the culprit?
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[Q] Battery Usage Data

I installed a scanning app. When I realized this app was using 10% battery, I froze the app using TB. After freezing and re-booting, I still saw a 9% drain. It was not until I removed the app did it disappear from the battery usage page. Does the battery usage page show real time battery usage? Just trying to understand the 9% battery drain from a frozen app.
The 9% you saw might be what the app used before being frozen. The battery usage is reset when you charge your phone fully. After that, the app shouldn't show up in the battery usage.

15-25% overnight battery drain versus 3-4%

According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Install better battery stats to monitor what's going on. I think the one night I left it off charge over night I lost maybe 6-8% but I slept for like 10+ hours. This is with google now on, gps on, wifi on.
What i'm testing now that I think will actually improve batt life is having wifi turn off when display is off (unless plugged in). I think I noticed less idle drain at home when I did this but it was temporary. Giving it a shot over a few days now.
I leave wifi on and I get less than 5% drain. Nothing syncs when my screen is off except notification weather pro every two hours and Yahoo weather
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FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
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phositadc said:
Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
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I honestly believe it will be patched with the Camera.
I'm having the same issue. People are reporting crazy battery stats with like 20+ hours of use 2+ hours of screen on and like 20% battery left. I get MAYBE 12 hours of use and 2 hours of screen on and 20-25% left. My mediaserver is keeping the phone awake for almost an hour+ each day, and without root I can't figure out how to stop it. I always have GPS/Google Now/Bluetooth off, too.
I thought the drain was related to Wifi. But last night WiFi was turned off for the night and I still got 18% battery drain in about 8 hours.
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
rman18 said:
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
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Interesting theory but my overnight idle drain was approximately the same on both LTE and WiFi. 10-15%.
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How about turning off all radios (flight mode) and observe battery drain at night. Then turning wifi while on flight mode the next night and see the battery drain and so on until you can pin point what causes the most drain.
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Absurd battery stats

I'm currently on 5.0.2 and after doing a full refresh and giving the phone a few days post-upgrade to settle down I'm getting absurd battery usage stats. Battery life itself is fine (after taming the runaway Google services), but at 50% battery the stats suggest my screen time is responsible for 3% (despite 4+ hours of SOT), Android system 30% and K9 email for almost 30% (K9 kept the phone awake for less than 2 minutes, and Android System kept it awake for about 35 minutes). Those % figures are absurd and I now use GSam to see what's really happening. Needless to say, it gives far more believable stats.
I have no rogue wake locks, I use Greenify to kill errant apps when not using them, wif-fi turns off when screen is off, and my wireless signal is green 90% of the time. Anyone experiencing the same, or know what's going on? I do have stamina mode enabled, so could that perhaps be interfering in some way?
pipspeak said:
I'm currently on 5.0.2 and after doing a full refresh and giving the phone a few days post-upgrade to settle down I'm getting absurd battery usage stats. Battery life itself is fine (after taming the runaway Google services), but at 50% battery the stats suggest my screen time is responsible for 3% (despite 4+ hours of SOT), Android system 30% and K9 email for almost 30% (K9 kept the phone awake for less than 2 minutes, and Android System kept it awake for about 35 minutes). Those % figures are absurd and I now use GSam to see what's really happening. Needless to say, it gives far more believable stats.
I have no rogue wake locks, I use Greenify to kill errant apps when not using them, wif-fi turns off when screen is off, and my wireless signal is green 90% of the time. Anyone experiencing the same, or know what's going on? I do have stamina mode enabled, so could that perhaps be interfering in some way?
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Try this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/post-lp-battery-usage-t3056775 (about batteries and related such)

3%+ per hour drain on idle--how to detect problem app?

So my first Note 8 had draining problems which seemed to somehow fix itself with every other cycle. I replaced it with my current Note 8, which had really great battery life for a week. Yesterday, it started draining randomly at 3%++ on idle. I didn't download any new apps. I didn't change anything at all. According to GSAM, it just says it's from app usage, but I'm not using the phone and all apps are closed.
In Settings|Device Maintenance, you can find a list of apps that are draining the battery.
What does GSAM report for deep-sleep percentage?
Do you have AOD turned on? Many are reporting excessive battery drain from it.
I have found this useful on more than one occasion. It will give you deeper insight into what's going on, than the battery monitor in the phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/stop-wakelocks-android-without-root/
Another vote to look at disabling AOD.
I checked my battery stats yesterday and it was the top consumer after 5 hours of work. I didn't use my phone much - there was about an hour of SOT, but the AOD seems to be taking way more than 1% an hour - more like 4-5% an hour in my case.
I do hope that they fix this issue in an update. I'd like to use AOD, but not at the expense of that much battery life per hour. I guess when they're testing their software, they don't test battery drain.
I wonder why the AOD draining more. I don't ever remember seeing AOD using battery on my S7E. I love the AOD but i have it set on a schedule. ifi leave it on all day it consumes 5-6% battery.
Chiming in to say AOD was the culprit for me as well. I was losing as much as 5% an hour on AOD. Just not optimized. I had it on all the time using my S8+ and it didn't drain more than 6% for a whole day which is something I can live with.
I don't have AoD turned on, but it's also not disabled. It's still active, but I can disable it with BK Disabler.
Gary02468 said:
In Settings|Device Maintenance, you can find a list of apps that are draining the battery.
What does GSAM report for deep-sleep percentage?
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It doesn't list anything in particular that is draining it, which is why I'm having so much trouble finding out the issue. My old Note 8 would drain for 3% per hour and then after a charge or two, it would go back to normal. This time, it hasn't reverted back to normal yet.
For deep sleep and light sleep, they're both around 40-something percent.

Question What battery saver app do you use?

Hello,
I would like to ask you guys, what apps do you use to save your battery?
Naptime? Anything else?
Nothing... I don't need to install anything to save battery. That being said, I USED to do this with apps like Greenify on my Galaxy Note 3 (so like 9-10 years ago). But I had stopped doing that a while back as doing so had only lead to even less battery life lol.
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
I've tried naptime and I've not really noticed a huge difference, at least in repeatable conditions, i.e. overnight. Same with Galaxy max Hz, although i like the additional controls that the latter gives
Love Bixby routines to switch to 2G when at home or activate batter saver when sleeping and not charging. Rly good stuff.
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
dscline said:
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I kind of do something similar. I've got a Bixby Routine to shut off the smart plug that the charger is plugged into when the Battery percent reaches 80. Unfortunately, Bixby routines isn't very reliable.
dscline said:
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I use Accubattery as well to monitor temp and charging.
If you use any power management especially 3rd party ones it can cause erratic behavior and may create conflicts that use more power than they save.
I deal with power hogs directly by either adjusting settings, disabling them or firewall blocking them.
Certain apps like Brave, Gmaps I manually close out when done or will they continue to poll the internet in the background and use power.
aronwhite95 said:
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
I’ve been using AccuBattery with IFTTT to shut off a smart plug at 75% for several years now to extend my phone’s battery life. This has been very reliable, it runs every morning before I wake up.
lyzgaard said:
You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
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what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
mankvl said:
what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
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No, no. The first person essentially said to uninstall that crummy, built-in Facebook app and then to put some apps that you don't need notifications for into deep sleep mode. The second person mentioned the same thing with different wording.

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