Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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No. Well you could but version probably won't authorize devices if the imei is not in their database.
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
Probly not. But wait and see.
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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No all nexus are Sim unlocked.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
nexus6R3plicant said:
It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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ExCtly. People are getting confused because of the pamphlets that have to logos but they are google play review units. They were probably google units going to Tmobile that had those pamphlets and were used as review units. That DOESNT mean they came from Tmobile which is a different thing. Plus you also have to consider that the persons Verizon Sim car is already provisioned. The real test is activating new new service with a new sim card.
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Yes, you guys have some valid points. I already have an activated sim and all I would need to do is pop mine in to a T-mobile phone to see if it works.
But speaking to the last post, it would be interesting to see if a new verizon sim would work with a t-mobile bought phone.
There are only 2 versions. ..... international and north American. .....not a t mobile sprint vzw etc they are the same
If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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Uh no. That's not how it works.
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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This exactly.
Fact is if you want to use a Nexus 6 on VZW your best bet is to buy from Play Store, Amazon, Motorola Direct, Verizon upon release, etc but NOT from other carriers.
Also T-Mobile has confirmed that they will turn away anyone hoping to buy off contract at any of their stores on launch day. They want to give current customers and new service customers the first go at the device sale before expanding sales to a whole after the hype dies down on their customer end.
I was lucky enough to get an order in today on Motorola's site, but after watching the latest Droid-Life show I was left with a concern. Apparently we won't be able to use simultaneous voice and data. So say for example I'm on a call and want to look something up, unless I'm connected to a WiFi network I won't be able to do that. This is the case with the 2014 Moto X and the just released Droid Turbo. Those phones though are (according to Verizon) going to get an update before the years end to allow for VoLTE, which will fix this problem. The problem I see is that since this isn't a "Verizon" phone per say, how are we going to get that update? Are we going to be stuck not being able to use simultaneous voice and data? For once I thought we finally had a great Nexus phone on Verizon and now this news reminds me of why we haven't had a Nexus phone after the Galaxy Nexus.
I have been mainly using it with T-Mobile but have popped in a Verizon sim and got LTE service. Made a couple of calls, used the internet.
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Any idea if the unlocked version of Tmobile Nexus 6 will work on Verizon network?
Im asking because there is only one Nexus for all carries in U.S.A
I would do so because Tmobile version for sure wont locked bootloader, unlock it and use it on Verizon.
If nexus legend holds true it should come with an unlockable boot loader like all the other nexus. N7 was compatible with Verizon and it was the same device across the other carriers. If the carrier locks the phone I'd be very surprised.
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There are only 2 NExus 6 models. The US model and then the one for the rest of the world. So we can infer that there will be no carrier branding and it will work on all networks (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon & T-Mobile). So Google really nailed it with one model covering all of the LTE bands on every carrier.
Pilz said:
There are only 2 NExus 6 models. The US model and then the one for the rest of the world. So we can infer that there will be no carrier branding and it will work on all networks (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon & T-Mobile). So Google really nailed it with one model covering all of the LTE bands on every carrier.
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If that's indeed the truth and Verizon doesn't lock it down I'd probably get one myself. I love the G3 but the N6 seems like it could be the way to go...
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If that's indeed the truth and Verizon doesn't lock it down I'd probably get one myself. I love the G3 but the N6 seems like it could be the way to go...
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Thats what google said which is why its implied that all carriers will get the same phone. Google has more control over what carriers can do so it should be a good change.
Source:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...of-the-worldhere-are-all-the-supported-bands/
Damn that's awesome.Does anyone know what the 32 and 64Gb device will cost.and will it launch this month? Thanks In advance!!!
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xda23 said:
Damn that's awesome.Does anyone know what the 32 and 64Gb device will cost.and will it launch this month? Thanks In advance!!!
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I read something like $649-32GB and $699-64GB
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I read something like $649-32GB and $699-64GB
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That seems about right, I think its fair for what you are getting. Also Nexus devices retain their value extremely well.
From my understanding that all nexus 6 are the same no matter what carrier you buy from or Google Play. I have Verizon. My question is.. If I buy from another carrier sprint or t-mobile and I just pop my sim in shouldn't Lte and everything else work? Or will the radio bands vary on different carriers?
I think it would be work.
So far T-Mobile confirm it that is not locked on network and it's unlock phone.
But I'm not sure about the AT&T and other carrier.
busta6975 said:
From my understanding that all nexus 6 are the same no matter what carrier you buy from or Google Play. I have Verizon. My question is.. If I buy from another carrier sprint or t-mobile and I just pop my sim in shouldn't Lte and everything else work? Or will the radio bands vary on different carriers?
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Yes, it will work if you buy from any carrier. The model droid-life received was a T-Mobile unit, but they confirmed it worked with Verizon, including 4G. (http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/)
I just got my pre-order in on Play Store.
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Yes, it will work if you buy from any carrier. The model droid-life received was a T-Mobile unit, but they confirmed it worked with Verizon, including 4G. (http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/)
I just got my pre-order in on Play Store.
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I don't see anywhere in the article or video where they say their N6 was a T-Mobile unit. I'd be interested to hear that vzw has imei numbers sold from T-Mobile white listed in vzw databases.
A N6 bought from play/moto/vzw should have their imei white listed for vzw, I just haven't heard that is the case with N6 sold by other carriers.
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I don't see anywhere in the article or video where they say their N6 was a T-Mobile unit. I'd be interested to hear that vzw has imei numbers sold from T-Mobile white listed in vzw databases.
A N6 bought from play/moto/vzw should have their imei white listed for vzw, I just haven't heard that is the case with N6 sold by other carriers.
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In their unboxing video, you can see the box right before they open it. and it shows the phone is for t mobile. It says "T-MOB".
Wow, that's good news, thx.
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While it will work with other carriers, T-Mobile will not be selling the Nexus 6 right out at launch. Only new plan customers or current plan customers can purchase the N6 for the foreseeable future.
Your best bet is to wait for your carrier to come out with it, or try ordering from Google Play/Amazon.
Is the Nexus 6 compatible with LTE Advanced?
ee_981 said:
Is the Nexus 6 compatible with LTE Advanced?
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According this page, yes.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/verizon-lte-advanced-faqs/
vishousv said:
According this page, yes.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/verizon-lte-advanced-faqs/
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that was a two year old question asked in a two year old thread. you feel special now?
im not trying to put you down, seriously. its just that you brought up an old and dead thread, for absolutely no reason.
simms22 said:
that was a two year old question asked in a two year old thread. you feel special now?
im not trying to put you down, seriously. its just that you brought up an old and dead thread, for absolutely no reason.
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S***.....timing is everything! ????????????
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S***.....timing is everything! ????????????
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well, not always. but in this case it is
Well would Verizon blacklist or whitelist the I.d. number? My sis Wil buy it then activate it then just give me the phone.
Just worried about Verizon blocking it later on
A T-Mobile sold N6 will most likely not be able to work on VZW. See this thread for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The only sure way it will work is if you already have a nano-SIM. If you currently do not have a nano-SIM, and plan on getting once you get the T-Mobile N6, that is what no one has tested yet.
But droid-life already did the test, the T-Mobile N6 worked with a Verizon nano-SIM just fine.
Best way to do this:
1. Call Verizon and order a nano-SIM over the phone. If they ask for what device, say you just ordered a Droid Turbo from eBay.
2. Upon receiving the SIM and the N6, go to verizonwireless and login. Click on 'activate a device', choose 'device that has never been on verizon', enter your current phones IMEI (not the N6), then the SIM ID off the nano-SIM you just received.. The SIM will now be active, and your current SIM in your phone will deactivate.
3. Insert the nano-SIM into the N6, and you will have a working device.
Can anyone else confirm this? I have a t mobile account and I'm planning on buying it on my line most likely ordering it because they don't have it in store and then giving it to my cousin on his verizon account.
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nazzo123 said:
Can anyone else confirm this? I have a t mobile account and I'm planning on buying it on my line most likely ordering it because they don't have it in store and then giving it to my cousin on his verizon account.
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It has been confirmed in a different thread already. The guy got the phone yesterday from T-Mobile. And it worked on his Verizon account, he is currently using it on Verizon, it has LTE and 3g and all that stuff, just like a Verizon phone would. He also tried his friends ATT SIM, and the phone worked as would a ATT phone. Its in a thread in the general section somewhere, good luck finding it.
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It has been confirmed in a different thread already. The guy got the phone yesterday from T-Mobile. And it worked on his Verizon account, he is currently using it on Verizon, it has LTE and 3g and all that stuff, just like a Verizon phone would. He also tried his friends ATT SIM, and the phone worked as would a ATT phone. Its in a thread in the general section somewhere, good luck finding it.
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Thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/t-mobile-nexus-6-carriers-confirmed-t2946598
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/n6-t-mobile-verizon-t2946409
Quick Q
If I want to activate a Nexus 6 on Verizon, do I buy the Sprint Nexus 6 or can I buy any carrier model. Thanks in advance!
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If I want to activate a Nexus 6 on Verizon, do I buy the Sprint Nexus 6 or can I buy any carrier model. Thanks in advance!
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any US nexus 6 is the exact same model, no matter where you buy it. the only thing is that the att version comes sim locked.
So which one is the best to buy if I want to activate it on Verizon (in terms of feasibility of bootloader unlock, rooting, etc)? Which would you recommend?
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So which one is the best to buy if I want to activate it on Verizon (in terms of feasibility, etc etc)? Which would you recommend?
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best options are google play or motorola. then the other best option would be tmobile. but if you buy it through google play, they will replace the device one time if you break your screen.
I am thinking about trading my unopened Verizon Note 4 for one. Due to the lack of ROM support and a locked bootloader/non-rootability, the note 4 is virtually worthless to me at this point.
badboyg200 said:
I am thinking about trading my unopened Verizon Note 4 for one. Due to the lack of ROM support and a locked bootloader/non-rootability, the note 4 is virtually worthless to me at this point.
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well, the note 4 is rootable, the verizon version though might not be. i own a sgs4, verizon version, and i rooted it using towelroot. but 50% of the time, it wont boot. i get a message that its running unofficial verizon software, and to take it into a verizon.
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well, the note 4 is rootable, the verizon version though might not be. i own a sgs4, verizon version, and i rooted it using towelroot. but 50% of the time, it wont boot. i get a message that its running unofficial verizon software, and to take it into a verizon.
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There is a bounty for both root and bootloader on Verizon Note 4. But you are correct in that other carrier models of Note 4 are already rooted, unfortunately I have waited too long for this phone and need to move on.
badboyg200 said:
There is a bounty for both root and bootloader on Verizon Note 4. But you are correct in that other carrier models of Note 4 are already rooted, unfortunately I have waited too long for this phone and need to move on.
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The bootloader isn't getting unlocked on Note 4
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I am thinking about trading my unopened Verizon Note 4 for one. Due to the lack of ROM support and a locked bootloader/non-rootability, the note 4 is virtually worthless to me at this point.
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Good luck, the VZW Note 4 unopened can barely fetch $600 on swappa. You'd have to settle for a used Nexus 6 I would think with current values. You might have better luck on Craigslist but it's going to be hard getting a straight trade.
It's not worth getting a carrier version N6 until you verify it's been fully bought. And I thought the N6 users on Verizon were having data issues?
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And I thought the N6 users on Verizon were having data issues?
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I'm not, but I am stock other than unlocked and rooted with a few roms.
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It's not worth getting a carrier version N6 until you verify it's been fully bought. And I thought the N6 users on Verizon were having data issues?
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Nope, works perfectly fine. Have to jump through a few hoops to get the SIM working (VZW doesn't recognize the Nexus 6 IMEI as compatible) but after that it's great. In the beginning certain ROMs weren't working natively with Verizon, then a simple text edit fixed it, and now I think it's fixed out of the box for all custom ROMs.
I have a google play store N6 running perfectly on Verizon. Had to cut down my micro sim card to nano, popped it in, unlocked bootloader and on custom ROM number 3 so far. No data issues or any operational issues at this point.
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I have a google play store N6 running perfectly on Verizon. Had to cut down my micro sim card to nano, popped it in, unlocked bootloader and on custom ROM number 3 so far. No data issues or any operational issues at this point.
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Do you have to call and get it activated or do you literaly just pop in the Sim and is good to go?
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Do you have to call and get it activated or do you literaly just pop in the Sim and is good to go?
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Just pop in the sim and go. Might take a few minutes to get the Verizon signal on the initial boot, but afterwards, everything should be good to go.
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Just pop in the sim and go. Might take a few minutes to get the Verizon signal on the initial boot, but afterwards, everything should be good to go.
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Yup, it was that easy. I read a ton before I made my decision. I bought the Aerb sim cutter from amazon, unboxed my GPS N6, cut my micro sim and had to sandpaper it a little bit to fit, popped it in, 5-10 minutes later I was up and running with zero issues. Happy customer, love this device!
A problem people have had is the IMEI of a device not purchased from Google, Motorola or Verizon will not be in Verizon's database if you have to activate a new SIM card. An already activated SIM will work.
Which device?
A Sprint employee told me to get the Tmobile Nexus since Sprint customers were having pretty bad issues with the nexus 6 on the sprint network. Does carrier specific Nexus 6's have better or worse service on the VZW network? I thought all the phones were the same more or less with the same hardware.
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A Sprint employee told me to get the Tmobile Nexus since Sprint customers were having pretty bad issues with the nexus 6 on the sprint network. Does carrier specific Nexus 6's have better or worse service on the VZW network? I thought all the phones were the same more or less with the same hardware.
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all US versions are exactly the same device. google play, tmobile, sprint, etc.. they are the exactly the same device.
Hey everyone,
Does anyone know if Amazon has it's own special set of IMEI ranges and if it does, the compatibility of that range? I've been doing a lot of research, but to no avail.
Perhaps the carriers have finally gotten mostly on board and this is no longer an issue?
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Hey everyone,
Does anyone know if Amazon has it's own special set of IMEI ranges and if it does, the compatibility of that range? I've been doing a lot of research, but to no avail.
Perhaps the carriers have finally gotten mostly on board and this is no longer an issue?
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I believe that Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't "white list" phones that aren't bought directly from them.
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I believe that Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't "white list" phones that aren't bought directly from them.
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No longer true
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No longer true
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So they now will supply SIM cards for non VZW purchased devices and give BYOD credit for Edge customers?
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So they now will supply SIM cards for non VZW purchased devices and give BYOD credit for Edge customers?
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Yep have for a couple months now
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akellar said:
Yep have for a couple months now
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I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
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So, given that, now all Nexus 6 devices, regardless of purchase location, now work with at least all 4 major carriers in the US? If that's the case, is there still an advantage to paying full price to get one directly from Google or Amazon, rather than free financing from any carrier?
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So, given that, now all Nexus 6 devices, regardless of purchase location, now work with at least all 4 major carriers in the US? If that's the case, is there still an advantage to paying full price to get one directly from Google or Amazon, rather than free financing from any carrier?
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Phones purchased from AT&T come "carrier locked" (i.e. SIM) to AT&T. You can get an unlock code from AT&T once the device is paid off.
The bootloader is unlockable (like all N6 devices), and you can flash any ROM. And they will work on any network once SIM unlocked from AT&T.
Ok, so I'm trying to put together a definitive statement for anyone else that finds this because I spent a lot of time not finding the answer and reading old news articles.
So, correct me if the following is wrong:
Any Nexus 6 purchased from any location will work on any major carrier, provided the device is sim unlocked eventually. Currently AT&T sim locks theirs, until you pay off the device. Therefore purchasing any used Nexus 6, provided a clean ESN and carrier unlocked, will also work on all major US carriers.
Is that all correct?
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Ok, so I'm trying to put together a definitive statement for anyone else that finds this because I spent a lot of time not finding the answer and reading old news articles.
So, correct me if the following is wrong:
Any Nexus 6 purchased from any location will work on any major carrier, provided the device is sim unlocked eventually. Currently AT&T sim locks theirs, until you pay off the device. Therefore purchasing any used Nexus 6, provided a clean ESN and carrier unlocked, will also work on all major US carriers.
Is that all correct?
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Yes, correct for XT1103 for North America. And XT1100 is for the rest of the world (I.e. non North America).
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Yes, correct for XT1103 for North America. And XT1100 is for the rest of the world (I.e. non North America).
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Awesome, thanks for your help everyone! I hope this is useful to future N6 buyers too.