Having a hard time understanding, is it possible to root a galaxy note 4 without tripping the Knox? Or just use chain fire trip Knox method and be done with it?
Currently, it's impossible not to trip Knox. My experience with tmobile, they won't check that. If the screen is good turns on and no water damage, they will take it for a jump upgrade.
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Sorry to be ignorant, but I'm looking at my T-mobile Galaxy Note 4 and Knox doesn't "seem" to be installed. There is nothing in Devices Administrator settings. There is a "My Knox" app in Play Store that hasn't been installed. Will rooting my phone still trip the Knox indicator? I have 4.4.4.
oneway2k said:
Sorry to be ignorant, but I'm looking at my T-mobile Galaxy Note 4 and Knox doesn't "seem" to be installed. There is nothing in Devices Administrator settings. There is a "My Knox" app in Play Store that hasn't been installed. Will rooting my phone still trip the Knox indicator? I have 4.4.4.
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Yes, knox indication is in the firmware not in an application.
Google "samsung knox counter" and click on Images to see a ton of screen shots of the firmware screen showing a knox counter of 0x0 and knox warranty void counter of 0x0 or . . . 0x1 which indicates the counter is tripped.
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This has probably been answered, but cannot find anything. With the Note 3, you tripped a knox setting somewhere that couldn't be reversed by rooting. Is this still an issue with the Note 4, or can I root knowing Tmo will probably never find out?
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Nick
You will trip Knox my friend
Yeah, I thought so. I'm so for anything and everything Knox too. I want to fully lock my device down. Rooting is just as important to me.
Is a shame!
Thanks for the fast reply.
Here's what I've been able to gather sofar.
You cannot root without tripping knox
You cannot undo a knox trip
No knox means no Samsung Pay
Knox rhymes with Knocks
Tripping knox voids warranty...
Is there anything else i need to know? how many apps and features depend on knox?
I'd rather not trip it, but its been 3 weeks and the lack of certain root privileges is killing me. Being my 1st Samsung device, I'd like to know fully what the consequences are of tripping knox for the sake of convenience.
Chocolina said:
Here's what I've been able to gather sofar.
You cannot root without tripping knox
You cannot undo a knox trip
No knox means no Samsung Pay
Knox rhymes with Knocks
Tripping knox voids warranty...
Is there anything else i need to know? how many apps and features depend on knox?
I'd rather not trip it, but its been 3 weeks and the lack of certain root privileges is killing me. Being my 1st Samsung device, I'd like to know fully what the consequences are of tripping knox for the sake of convenience.
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As of right now losing samsung pay is the only downside unless it is a corporate phone. In the past you could trip knox and still jump from it but now that samsung pay is connected to knox I would bet that will change.
ThePagel said:
As of right now losing samsung pay is the only downside unless it is a corporate phone. In the past you could trip knox and still jump from it but now that samsung pay is connected to knox I would bet that will change.
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By "unless it is a corporate phone" do you mean tripping KNOX will disable encrypted enterprise apps like GOOD Mobile? Curious about this.
unhx said:
By "unless it is a corporate phone" do you mean tripping KNOX will disable encrypted enterprise apps like GOOD Mobile? Curious about this.
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Honestly I'm not sure but I'm sure someone on this forum can give us specifics.
I could stand to lose Samsung pay as I intend to sell this phone for a Note 5, and Samsung Pay wont even begin to roll out until much later.
I've ned tried it, but can you lock TWRP?
Hello I have just rooted my phone using the Ping Pong method but I am wondering if going back to stock will trip Knox since the only method I know of to do this is using Odin. I appreciate any information.
jczarowitz said:
Hello I have just rooted my phone using the Ping Pong method but I am wondering if going back to stock will trip Knox since the only method I know of to do this is using Odin. I appreciate any information.
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Pretty sure factory reset in settings can fix this.
Glad to hear that flashing back to stock using Odin won't trip Knox. And no Factory Reset doesn't take away root access as I tried that.
No. I've done it myself.
I've also used Smart Switch to go back to stock.
Anybody have any luck doing a warranty exchange with KNOX tripped?
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Anybody have any luck doing a warranty exchange with KNOX tripped?
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I warrantied a power button on my S3 and I hard bricked it resetting it back to stock. Still got sent my old phone back with a new motherboard.
tonu42 said:
I warrantied a power button on my S3 and I hard bricked it resetting it back to stock. Still got sent my old phone back with a new motherboard
I meant doing a handset exchange through T-mobile
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thefoss said:
Anybody have any luck doing a warranty exchange with KNOX tripped?
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Tripping knox only voids the warranty through Samsung, not tmobile.
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jsho31 said:
Tripping knox only voids the warranty through Samsung, not tmobile.
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That's not true, any modification to the phone voids the warranty. I think burning the efues and permanently making Samsung pay unusable counts as a modification. Let's not fool ourselves, once tmobile realizes that knox tripped = no S pay they will check. I replaced my phone because of a loose home button after tripping knox but I was upfront about tripping it. The manager said he appreciated my honesty but they don't check it at the moment, but he as the manager knowing it was tripped could refuse the swap. You might be asking yourself why would you tell them that? Well I don't like taking advantage of a system until after it has f***** with me, tmobile has yet to do that.
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That's not true, any modification to the phone voids the warranty. I think burning the efues and permanently making Samsung pay unusable counts as a modification. Let's not fool ourselves, once tmobile realizes that knox tripped = no S pay they will check. I replaced my phone because of a loose home button after tripping knox but I was upfront about tripping it. The manager said he appreciated my honesty but they don't check it at the moment, but he as the manager knowing it was tripped could refuse the swap. You might be asking yourself why would you tell them that? Well I don't like taking advantage of a system until after it has f***** with me, tmobile has yet to do that.
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Pretty sure tripping Knox has nothing to do with your loose home button.
rizoh66 said:
Pretty sure tripping Knox has nothing to do with your loose home button.
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No, never said it did.
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Oh lol I see
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No, never said it did.
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The point is that you shouldn't have said anything about tripping Knox. Tripping Knox has nothing to do with the loose home button.
rizoh66 said:
The point is that you shouldn't have said anything about tripping Knox. Tripping Knox has nothing to do with the loose home button.
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I can't help it, honesty is a weakness of mine. Luckily it never seems to bite me in the butt.
Sorry if this has been asked else where.
I know on devices like my note 5 if I tripped Knox I would lose things such as Samsung pay and android pay ect. However on my tab is there any major set backs about having tripped Knox except for voided warranty? I am not worried about whatever knox adds security wise, just want to know if I would lose functionally of anything on the tab itself.
Short answer no, you're better off without anything knox related.
Thank you very much.
I don't know if you use "private mode" but that seems to not want to work after tripping Knox I my T810.
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Hello guys. Recently i joined note 8 forums from note 3.
I have 950f with dual sim. I can choose to oem unlock. But i have galaxy care and guarantee of the phone. I want to root to add apps for camera modding and etc. So I'm afraid of rooting to change the agreenment of care and other stuff. If i root i change the agreenment?
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Instantly voids your warranty. I mean don't you already know that? Just saying.
If afraid of rooting, DO NOT DO IT, and about warranty, depends of your contry/carrier polocies, in Mexico rooting does not void warranty at least claiming it with the biggest carrier telcel
rooting will also void usage of Samsung Pay.
It will trip Knox and you'll lose secure folder forever too
There is no compelling reason to root today. From themes to ad blocking, there is a solid non-root solution available. The reasons to avoid root like warranty and Samsung Pay are pretty big. IMO, stay away from root. Your money tho.
Yes you can. Root and enjoy
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Yes you can. Root and enjoy
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That's bad advice since OP is worried about voiding warranty and losing functionality...read post 1.
If you have any bit of desire to maintain warranty coverage you just simply stay away from the topic of rooting. End of. Any stink of warranty stuff, rooting is a no go.
When you root, you trip the knox counter, there is no way back, even if you unroot and return fully stock. The knox counter stays tripped which means you'll lose Samsung Pay and Secure Folder forever.
You gain features and functionality with root, however. Native automatic call recording, ad-blocking (not just in the browsers), Titanium Backup, Full system Backup, AFWall+ (blocking internet access to specific apps)... etc.
So it is up to you to decide whether it is worth it or not.