I just installed Messenger - Android Apps on Google Play on my Moto X (2013) Verizon Wireless (Android 4.4.4) and using "Titanium Backup" I "Froze" my native "Messaging" app (green icon).
Yet when someone texts me Messaging app (green icon) reappear from frozen, what am I doing wrong? How should I deal with it? It doesn't look like Messaging app (green icon) is active as I switched my "Default SMS app" to "Messenger", is there something else I need to "Freeze" as well?
Do you have the Google Messenger app set as the default SMS app?
Corvida said:
Do you have the Google Messenger app set as the default SMS app?
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Yes, I do. I didn't even know app can unfreeze itself too.
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Are you sure you froze the right app? The green Messaging app is the stock standard android messaging app, not specific to Verizon. The Verizon Messaging app should be a different app, probably red icon.
Also why bother with TiBU to freeze you can just try disabling from settings. Settings -> Apps -> All -> Verizon Messages -> Disable
Alternatively when you get a text and Verizon Messaging app pops up click the android Recent Apps/Multitasking button, long press Verizon, select App Info, and Disable.
Only need TiBU if stock disable feature is unavailable.
dtg7 said:
Are you sure you froze the right app? The green Messaging app is the stock standard android messaging app, not specific to Verizon. The Verizon Messaging app should be a different app, probably red icon.
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Yes, I'm sure I froze right app, maybe I mislabeled it by saying it's Verizon when it's not, but I did freeze (multiple times) a green icon app "Messaging" aka (Messaging 4.4.4-26 (SMS/MMS PREFS)".
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Also why bother with TiBU to freeze you can just try disabling from settings. Settings -> Apps -> All -> Verizon Messages -> Disable
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I tried that first, it was greyed out, so I cannot do it.
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Alternatively when you get a text and Verizon Messaging app pops up click the android Recent Apps/Multitasking button, long press Verizon, select App Info, and Disable.
Only need TiBU if stock disable feature is unavailable.
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... and that's exactly why I attempt to do it using "Titanium Backup" and unfortunately was not successful(
OK well yeah that was confusing because there is a completely different app called Verizon Messages (has some good ratings, you might wanna look into it).
Anyway, we agree you're talking about the stock messaging app. Unfortunately it seems the stock app is integral to the 4.4.4 system, which is probably why there's no disable button and why you can't freeze it either. And even if you did manage to freeze it, it's likely you can't receive messages at all using other apps.
The solution seems to be to simply turn off notifications from within the app: Messaging -> Settings
See here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/77712/sms-problem-on-moto-g-after-updating-android-4-4-4
If you're dead set on going all out war on the app you can try using a file explorer with root privilege, find the messaging app (it's System -> priv-app -> MMS) and try renaming it, but that would be a hollow victory as like before it would probably inhibit other apps ability to receive SMS. so just turn off notifications.
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OK well yeah that was confusing because there is a completely different app called Verizon Messages (has some good ratings, you might wanna look into it).
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ok, sorry for confusion.. I have _NO_ interest in "Verizon Messages".
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Anyway, we agree you're talking about the stock messaging app. Unfortunately it seems the stock app is integral to the 4.4.4 system, which is probably why there's no disable button and why you can't freeze it either. And even if you did manage to freeze it, it's likely you can't receive messages at all using other apps.
The solution seems to be to simply turn off notifications from within the app: Messaging -> Settings
See here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/77712/sms-problem-on-moto-g-after-updating-android-4-4-4
If you're dead set on going all out war on the app you can try using a file explorer with root privilege, find the messaging app (it's System -> priv-app -> MMS) and try renaming it, but that would be a hollow victory as like before it would probably inhibit other apps ability to receive SMS. so just turn off notifications.
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disabling notifications did not help(
a1exus said:
I just installed Messenger - Android Apps on Google Play on my Moto X (2013) Verizon Wireless (Android 4.4.4) and using "Titanium Backup" I "Froze" my native "Messaging" app (green icon).
Yet when someone texts me Messaging app (green icon) reappear from frozen, what am I doing wrong? How should I deal with it? It doesn't look like Messaging app (green icon) is active as I switched my "Default SMS app" to "Messenger", is there something else I need to "Freeze" as well?
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Messenger is just a wrapper or fancier interface to the stock MMS app. If you physically remove MMS.apk (or sometimes messaging.apk) from /system/priv-app, then Messenger won't work at all.
You have to have the stock mms app on your system for Messenger to work (at least on 4.4.x)
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Messenger is just a wrapper or fancier interface to the stock MMS app. If you physically remove MMS.apk (or sometimes messaging.apk) from /system/priv-app, then Messenger won't work at all.
You have to have the stock mms app on your system for Messenger to work (at least on 4.4.x)
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Thanks, you've explained what i wanted to know in simple terms. as i did delete these apk and reboot and every sms messaging app crashed when i tried to launch them.
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Whenever I get a message using Handcent I also get a duplicate message in my stock msgr. How do I disable this? I have Handcent set as my default msngr.
have you tried going into stock app then
menu > settings > auto retrieve > off ?
might only apply to MMS tho and not regular SMS...if that doesn't work, dunno
On the stock msgr, you go into settings and turn off the notifications under settings, like sound, vibrate etc.
if you are rooted and wanna use handcent sms.. rather than the default then just use root explorer go to system/apps then delete the mms.apk
gohamstergo said:
have you tried going into stock app then
menu > settings > auto retrieve > off ?
might only apply to MMS tho and not regular SMS...if that doesn't work, dunno
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You have no idea how much this duplicate msg. Thing has been bothering me. Thus worked like a charm. Thank you so much for the help and especially the quick reply.
ashertheplague said:
if you are rooted and wanna use handcent sms.. rather than the default then just use root explorer go to system/apps then delete the mms.apk
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How can I get the native mms to stop popping up with handcent mms? I've tried disabling auto retrieve along with removing the mms.apk, but it still pops up.
Any idea on how to make sure the native mms doesn't popup when receiving a new message?
default messaging application > settings >In the notifications settings , uncheck the notification bar.
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if you are rooted and wanna use handcent sms.. rather than the default then just use root explorer go to system/apps then delete the mms.apk
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Be careful with that, you will most likely kill mms, unless one of the recent handcent updates has changed something.
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+1
I remember reading that deleting important apk's like that via root explorer can be dangerous. If you decide to delete it that way, make a nand backup first.
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I've been using handcent for quite some time now. I simply go into the stock SMS application and turn absolutely everything off, including auto-retrieve, notification sounds, notification vibrate, etc.
My settings are backed up through Titanium Backup, so when I flash a new ROM, I just re-apply the backup of the settings. Works wonderfully for me.
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default messaging application > settings >In the notifications settings , uncheck the notification bar.
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Thank pall.. this is what i want... My problem, solve too...
ashertheplague said:
if you are rooted and wanna use handcent sms.. rather than the default then just use root explorer go to system/apps then delete the mms.apk
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Tried this, but then I can't get MMS (messages with photo attachments). Everything else works, but MMS stops working.
To begin with, I am only getting messages duplicated when they come through a gateway such as [email protected]. The ones that come direct from other people are usually fine and I get only 1. I've searched and searched for the answer for this and can't seem to find it.
Does handcent load super slow for you guys. Had to stop using because of that.
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How do I make Handcent the default messaging app again? Auto retrieve is unchecked in Serendipity native messaging, but it is still receiving messages. Thanks.
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...sigh... Did you turn off the notifications on the native app also?
Notifications are off. Not getting double notifications. Just seems very inefficient to have messages loaded by both apps. Gotta be a way to shut down native app without messing around with scripts.
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If you have the paid version of titanium backup, you can select the native messaging app and freeze it and see if your messaging still works, if it does still work, use root explorer and make a copy of the native app, save it to the sd card and delete the original. Just throwing out trial and error options, so I'm not responsible if it doesn't work lol. If deleting the native messaging apk caused fc's, just copy and paste the original and you should be back to where you started though.
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Do you mean that the preinstalled messenger is the default SMS application?
Have you gone to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> All Tab -> Messenger -> Clear defaults?
Yes. Cleared messages and handcent cache. Next message comes in...choose handcent ad default. Go to messages app and same message is there. Not a biggie, but seems inefficient. Thanks
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I'm fairly certain that SMS are stored somewhere different and the apps just access that single location; you don't have the same message in multiple locations. If you downloaded a third messenger app later, you should be able to access all the previous conversations as well.
Ok. That makes me feel better then, lol. Thanks
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Like the title says i'm using Chomp SMS as my default SMS app and it works great. However, the stock messaging app notification won't go away, even if i open the app. I'm on 4.4 rooted t-mobile if it matters.
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Like the title says i'm using Chomp SMS as my default SMS app and it works great. However, the stock messaging app notification won't go away, even if i open the app. I'm on 4.4 rooted t-mobile if it matters.
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if you open the stock messaging app and set it back as the default msg app then open settings and uncheck the notification box then check all the msg in the stock app to make sure it goes away.
then back in chomp set it as default again and everything should be OK if you are still having issues then you can try freezing the stock MSG app with titanium Backup and that should def stop it.
I have a Sprint Moto x and i froze the stock msg app and it has not caused any issues receiving msg's so it should not on yours.
hope that fixes your issue
I had disabled the stock messaging app on my Moto X with stock Android 4.4.2. So far, this has been working great, and I don't have two messaging apps (Hangouts and Messaging) in the apps list. However, last night, I updated to 4.4.3, and now I can't send text messages. Hangouts crashes every time I start typing a message. I realized it might be because I had disabled the stock messaging app and went to go and reenable it in the App settings. So I went to Settings -> Apps -> Disabled, and tapped on Messaging. But the enable button is greyed out. Is there any way to reenable the app without resetting the phone? I can't seem to find any other way searching online doesn't show anyone else with this problem.
Thanks for any help!
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I had disabled the stock messaging app on my Moto X with stock Android 4.4.2. So far, this has been working great, and I don't have two messaging apps (Hangouts and Messaging) in the apps list. However, last night, I updated to 4.4.3, and now I can't send text messages. Hangouts crashes every time I start typing a message. I realized it might be because I had disabled the stock messaging app and went to go and reenable it in the App settings. So I went to Settings -> Apps -> Disabled, and tapped on Messaging. But the enable button is greyed out. Is there any way to reenable the app without resetting the phone? I can't s
I was able to solve this by defrosting the app in titanium backup!
Edit: For anyone else that stumbles on this thread, the enable button for disabled apps is greyed out in 4.4.3. If you are not rooted, one way to renable apps is to go to Settings > Apps > Disabled > Reset app preferences (under the menu button in the top right).
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I've just set up my nexus 6 with Fi, running the PureNexus rom. All my sms go through the hangouts app, although I have the default sms app to google messenger. This isn't a huge problem, but I would prefer to use the stock messenger app for its mms capabilities.
Any suggestions?
greenmatrix said:
I've just set up my nexus 6 with Fi, running the PureNexus rom. All my sms go through the hangouts app, although I have the default sms app to google messenger. This isn't a huge problem, but I would prefer to use the stock messenger app for its mms capabilities.
Any suggestions?
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Just Open your device's Settings menu.
Under "Wireless & networks", touch More.
Touch Default SMS app and change it googles one
Monster Mary said:
Just Open your device's Settings menu.
Under "Wireless & networks", touch More.
Touch Default SMS app and change it googles one
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Yeah, thanks, I've already changed it to default in the main settings menu. All messages still go through hangouts. I've tried rebooting to no effect.
To be more clear, I have set the default messaging app to Google Messenger. I can send messages with messenger, but responses always come back through hangouts.
greenmatrix said:
To be more clear, I have set the default messaging app to Google Messenger. I can send messages with messenger, but responses always come back through hangouts.
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Go Settings, Apps, scroll to Hangouts, Disable, Reboot.
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Go Settings, Apps, scroll to Hangouts, Disable, Reboot.
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I tried this, it didn't help. I can send messages through messenger, but responses still come through in hangouts. Now that hangouts is disabled on my nexus, they don't come in on my phone, however I am able to view responses on the hangouts desktop app and on my tablet.
Fixed it
If anyone else can't figure it out I managed to fix the problem. In the hangouts settings menu there are two options for setting the default messaging app, one in the main menu, and one under account settings. Both have to be set for google messenger.