So apparently with Google's new priority notification setup in Lollipop, there's no way to get notifications on your phone without having your phone vibrate. That is, there's no silent mode. You can either turn off your notifications to avoid vibrations, or leave notifications on without sound but still always get the vibrations - you can't get notifications without vibrations. THIS SUCKS. Why does it suck? Well...
Example 1: I have an LG G watch. Since my G watch vibrates for all of my notifications, I typically disable vibrations on my phone so that my phone isn't constantly buzzing on my desk. In 5.0, I can no longer do this. That means that every time I get an email (or any other notification, but email notifications are coming in all day), my damn phone buzzes in addition to my watch. Oh, and to make matters worse, the GMail app vibrates on notifications EVEN THOUGH I disabled vibration for notifications in the settings. This bug has been around for a few versions of GMail now.
Example 2: Bedtime. I typically put my phone in silent mode (no sounds + no vibrations) so I'm not woken up while sleeping. But I'll often check my phone while in bed before falling asleep, or overnight if I wake up, just to see if I have any notifications. Now? You can't do that. You have to put the phone in "None/Do Not Disturb" mode to avoid getting woken up by vibrations, but if you want to then check to see if you have any notifications, you have to toggle out of that mode.....then toggle back in after checking.
WTF was Google thinking with all of this nonsense? I can't be the only one with use cases that their new setup totally screws up.
nyijedi said:
So apparently with Google's new priority notification setup in Lollipop, there's no way to get notifications on your phone without having your phone vibrate. That is, there's no silent mode. You can either turn off your notifications to avoid vibrations, or leave notifications on without sound but still always get the vibrations - you can't get notifications without vibrations. THIS SUCKS. Why does it suck? Well...
Example 1: I have an LG G watch. Since my G watch vibrates for all of my notifications, I typically disable vibrations on my phone so that my phone isn't constantly buzzing on my desk. In 5.0, I can no longer do this. That means that every time I get an email (or any other notification, but email notifications are coming in all day), my damn phone buzzes in addition to my watch. Oh, and to make matters worse, the GMail app vibrates on notifications EVEN THOUGH I disabled vibration for notifications in the settings. This bug has been around for a few versions of GMail now.
Example 2: Bedtime. I typically put my phone in silent mode (no sounds + no vibrations) so I'm not woken up while sleeping. But I'll often check my phone while in bed before falling asleep, or overnight if I wake up, just to see if I have any notifications. Now? You can't do that. You have to put the phone in "None/Do Not Disturb" mode to avoid getting woken up by vibrations, but if you want to then check to see if you have any notifications, you have to toggle out of that mode.....then toggle back in after checking.
WTF was Google thinking with all of this nonsense? I can't be the only one with use cases that their new setup totally screws up.
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Wow.. I am still learning the new Lollipop features but if this is true that would be pretty sad for me too.
I am sure someone will make an Xposed module for this. Oh, wait...
There will certainly be options in custom ROMs.
nyijedi said:
So apparently with Google's new priority notification setup in Lollipop, there's no way to get notifications on your phone without having your phone vibrate. That is, there's no silent mode. You can either turn off your notifications to avoid vibrations, or leave notifications on without sound but still always get the vibrations - you can't get notifications without vibrations. THIS SUCKS. Why does it suck? Well...
Example 1: I have an LG G watch. Since my G watch vibrates for all of my notifications, I typically disable vibrations on my phone so that my phone isn't constantly buzzing on my desk. In 5.0, I can no longer do this. That means that every time I get an email (or any other notification, but email notifications are coming in all day), my damn phone buzzes in addition to my watch. Oh, and to make matters worse, the GMail app vibrates on notifications EVEN THOUGH I disabled vibration for notifications in the settings. This bug has been around for a few versions of GMail now.
Example 2: Bedtime. I typically put my phone in silent mode (no sounds + no vibrations) so I'm not woken up while sleeping. But I'll often check my phone while in bed before falling asleep, or overnight if I wake up, just to see if I have any notifications. Now? You can't do that. You have to put the phone in "None/Do Not Disturb" mode to avoid getting woken up by vibrations, but if you want to then check to see if you have any notifications, you have to toggle out of that mode.....then toggle back in after checking.
WTF was Google thinking with all of this nonsense? I can't be the only one with use cases that their new setup totally screws up.
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I just tested priority notifications and sent myself an email. The phone didn't buzz and no LED light flashed but when I turned the screen on, the notification was there. Is this not what you want?
The worst thing is that if you want to disable buzzing and put the phone on DND mode, you WILL miss any alarm you've set. Especially if it's for the bedtime...
I agree all with you.. I don't like this new setting. When I'm at school and my phone vibrate, my teacher will hear it
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I just tested priority notifications and sent myself an email. The phone didn't buzz and no LED light flashed but when I turned the screen on, the notification was there. Is this not what you want?
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Hmmm. Thank you. I'm going to mess around with this more. I wonder what a connected Android Wear device will do in such a situation.
Either way, Google really has made this all way more complicated than it should be, IMO. This shouldn't require all of this thought/setup. Why not add all of their priority stuff and just leave silent mode in there as an option? Sometimes I want my phone COMPLETELY silent. No sounds, no vibes at all, and no thinking about which apps are "priority" apps. This is an extra level of unneeded complexity.
nyijedi said:
Hmmm. Thank you. I'm going to mess around with this more. I wonder what a connected Android Wear device will do in such a situation.
Either way, Google really has made this all way more complicated than it should be, IMO. This shouldn't require all of this thought/setup. Why not add all of their priority stuff and just leave silent mode in there as an option? I don't get it.
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I just think people aren't used to change. It seems like everyone is acting like there is only normal and none and not thinking about priority. I think priority is good for when you want things silent but in case of an emergency you can allow certain notifications in. Like messages or calls from specific people and no one else. Yeah it's a little more elaborate but it's effective I think.
Dude priority mode is what you are asking for. No vibration but you we get notifications. So when you need to silence you phone set it in priority. Now it's even better. Want to receive call or message from someone important? Set your phone to priority mode and add them to the list. Phone will be silent but will ring of that person calls/messages.
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I just think people aren't used to change. It seems like everyone is acting like there is only normal and none and not thinking about priority. I think priority is good for when you want things silent but in case of an emergency you can allow certain notifications in. Like messages or calls from specific people and no one else. Yeah it's a little more elaborate but it's effective I think.
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Admittedly, I'm sure that not liking change is part of it. I also do see the benefit of priority mode - I really do. I just think Google could have easily implemented their new priority mode and still left in the very basic silent/vibrate/ringer functionality.
Gallardo994 said:
The worst thing is that if you want to disable buzzing and put the phone on DND mode, you WILL miss any alarm you've set. Especially if it's for the bedtime...
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Priority notifications...
THERE IS SILENT MODE WITHOUT VIBRATE! LED NOTIFICATION WORK FINE! JUST REEEADDD THIS. OR PIN THIS THREAD!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/real-silenced-mode-lollipop-t2938018
That is not what the OP is referring to. Priority mode is not what people want. No interruptions = there will be no notification light, and there will be no heads up while the phone is in use. It should be something that you can just set up and leave alone. The first 2 developer previews actually had a silent mode where you could long hold the sound icon in the volume window and it would go to real pre-lollipop silent mode.
I also have the same issue. I have a pebble watch that literally forwards every kind of notification I want, and I don't like my vibrator to be running at the same time. I think google needs to address this and bring back silent mode by 5.0.1. I'm sure 3rd party roms such as AOSPA or CyanogenMOD will have this, but AOSP stock should have a no-brainer silent mode.
I was wondering about this too.
So, if I have the volume all the way up, set to priority with events and reminders, calls and message all OFF. Will the phone only make noise with an alarm?
And setting it to none be the same but killing the alarm too?
Fluidification said:
That is not what the OP is referring to. Priority mode is not what people want. No interruptions = there will be no notification light, and there will be no heads up while the phone is in use. It should be something that you can just set up and leave alone. The first 2 developer previews actually had a silent mode where you could long hold the sound icon in the volume window and it would go to real pre-lollipop silent mode.
I also have the same issue. I have a pebble watch that literally forwards every kind of notification I want, and I don't like my vibrator to be running at the same time. I think google needs to address this and bring back silent mode by 5.0.1. I'm sure 3rd party roms such as AOSPA or CyanogenMOD will have this, but AOSP stock should have a no-brainer silent mode.
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This is,what OP wants. You just dont know, how set this. It's very easy. I was confused and pissed first. No silent mode, and no notifaction led? But now works perfect. In middle mode you can set, that your phone will be ring/vibrate just when you get a message, and set on silent mode for phone call. Or reverse, or, alot more ....... People just need manual for this, because first time is very confused.
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I was wondering about this too.
So, if I have the volume all the way up, set to priority with events and reminders, calls and message all OFF. Will the phone only make noise with an alarm?
And setting it to none be the same but killing the alarm too?
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Yes
Just noticed something else.
I'm playing music on right now, and the volume rocker controls only that. I can't see a way to changing the ringer volume or priority settings when music is playing (short of diving into the settings) That's a pain in the ass.
I am having issues --- Notifications push to the device, however they don't "pull" if that's a thing... example.. I am on the laptop and get an email, hear the notification on phone and light - check and delete the email in gmail on my laptop... Notification stays on phone... it used to go away.. Maybe it is just me or "I no lollipop well".. ha
Edit** may have been a Google issue both N5 & N7 are now pushing and pulling notifications..... fwiw
Gallardo994 said:
The worst thing is that if you want to disable buzzing and put the phone on DND mode, you WILL miss any alarm you've set. Especially if it's for the bedtime...
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What, is this why today I missed waking up in time for work?
I was still getting system notification sounds, even on priority set to only calls/texts from starred contacts.
I wish silent was still an option like it was on Dev Preview 1. I've been using android phones exclusively since 2010 and this is just what I like.
Someone hack the silent state from the first preview, please.
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Hey guys,
I've tried searching about everywhere, and it almost seems like im an isolated incident, but...
Im currently running WM6.1 on my vario 3. I've set my alarm to go off each night, sounding the typical alarm. I've got the "enable sounds for Notifications (Alarms, reminders)" bit ticked. However, i put my fone on silent before i go to bed (because i get random emails and txts thru the night which wake me up ). Because of this, the fone doesnt reactivate the sounds for the alarm... so all i get is a little notification come up sayin that the alarm is going.
As you can imagin, having a notification pop up isnt going to wake you up...
Is there any way that i can have my fone on silent, and yet have the alarm sound in the morning? I dont particularly want to run any other clock app, as with the built in one, its running all the time and its set for monday-friday.
Is this even possible? or do i have to get another app?
thanks guys!
Sure it's called AIRPLANE mode. Just turn the phone part off and crank that volume up.
yea, that would work too...
but im curious as to whether there is any way of doing this without having to turn the phone function off...
back on my SE k800, the alarm would still do its thing even in silent mode... and if the fone was off
You have to use a third party app.
go to sounds and notifications in the settings area. then turn off the recieve new emails notification. This is what I do since I receive junk emails late at nite too.
hipertec said:
go to sounds and notifications in the settings area. then turn off the recieve new emails notification. This is what I do since I receive junk emails late at nite too.
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but then, wouldnt you have to reenable these again in the morning? otherwise, u wont be notified of when you get important/real mails?
Thinking out loud here - Couldnt you have a meeting mode or some other mode where you set all the other notifications to silent but leave the alarm loud and when you go to bed put it in that mode?
I will admit I am just tlaking off the top of my head and have not actually tried it. Just a suggestions?
Bill
billgatessucks said:
Hey guys,
I've tried searching about everywhere, and it almost seems like im an isolated incident, but...
Im currently running WM6.1 on my vario 3. I've set my alarm to go off each night, sounding the typical alarm. I've got the "enable sounds for Notifications (Alarms, reminders)" bit ticked. However, i put my fone on silent before i go to bed (because i get random emails and txts thru the night which wake me up ). Because of this, the fone doesnt reactivate the sounds for the alarm... so all i get is a little notification come up sayin that the alarm is going.
As you can imagin, having a notification pop up isnt going to wake you up...
Is there any way that i can have my fone on silent, and yet have the alarm sound in the morning? I dont particularly want to run any other clock app, as with the built in one, its running all the time and its set for monday-friday.
Is this even possible? or do i have to get another app?
thanks guys!
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I use PhoneWeaver with scheduled profiles. So at 11:30pm the phone goes silent in the Night profile, and at 5:30am the phone switches back to Day. I have a 5:45am alarm set to go off in the alarms.
You can do the same with PhoneAlarm ... or PhoneAlarm Lite.
http://www.sbsh.net/product.php?id=28
http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html
PhoneAlarm definitely has more options and configurations, but I've found PhoneWeaver to be simpler, more reliable and it covers the features I use.
There are some free solutions for profile switching out there too, if I can find them I will repost.
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but then, wouldnt you have to reenable these again in the morning? otherwise, u wont be notified of when you get important/real mails?
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ya. this this where it really sucks. I don't know why wm6 don't have diferent ring profiles.
if anyone knows of any free solutions or programs, please let us know.
Sorry if this is a hijack - i've never used the feature, but what does the icon on HTC Home's phone announcement mode with the clock do? There's Loudspeaker Ring On, Silent, Vibrate Only, and then another option that I haven't yet figured out the purpose of.
rjlynn said:
Sorry if this is a hijack - i've never used the feature, but what does the icon on HTC Home's phone announcement mode with the clock do? There's Loudspeaker Ring On, Silent, Vibrate Only, and then another option that I haven't yet figured out the purpose of.
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i would like to know too. i thought this was the other profile but seems to be the same as the ring on. Anyone have the answer?
i thought they were just like "profiles"... like how when u click on the sound icon in the taskbar, uve got the dropdown menu with the 2 volume levels, with the 3 options underneath it...
those alarm clocks sound good, possibly the best option so far...
but im still holding onto the dream that there is some way of actually using the alarm like you would do with a normal fone... hopefully the xperia would still have SE functionality
is there any way for the alarms to repeat every min till i snooze it ?? also itd be great to set a loud mp3 as an alarm.
any good third party alarm ??? other than phone alarm ??
i find phone alarm very confusing and buggy.
@billgatessucks and corleno
Try enAlarmPPC. You can use MP3 as alarm sound, vibrate, random, snooze, and choose to override system sound settings. You can completely turn off all your sound, and enAlarmPPC will still give you sound!
[EDIT] Added some screenshots; BTW only $8.00 at Handango
johanromijn said:
@billgatessucks and corleno
Try enAlarmPPC. You can use MP3 as alarm sound, vibrate, random, snooze, and choose to override system sound settings. You can completely turn off all your sound, and enAlarmPPC will still give you sound!
[EDIT] Added some screenshots; BTW only $8.00 at Handango
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thanks a bunch johanromijn
ill try it out now
does this app run all the time in the background? or do u need to open it up like u would with any program etc?
so i can either put my fone on silent, and then remember to open up an app... or... i just put the fone into flight mode? :S
so currently i use the app "Do Not Disturb" which sets a timer (I have it from 10pm-5am) so that my phone gets switched to silent while I sleep and I won't get woken by my friends drunkenly calling me all night long... what I'm wondering, is if there is any app like Do Not Disturb, except with some kind of white list, so I can set it so if my Mom calls (might be an emergency) it will still ring. any ideas? i've looked but haven't been able to find something like that.
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so currently i use the app "Do Not Disturb" which sets a timer (I have it from 10pm-5am) so that my phone gets switched to silent while I sleep and I won't get woken by my friends drunkenly calling me all night long... what I'm wondering, is if there is any app like Do Not Disturb, except with some kind of white list, so I can set it so if my Mom calls (might be an emergency) it will still ring. any ideas? i've looked but haven't been able to find something like that.
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Maybe setup a rule in Locale to ring at maximum when a certain contact calls?
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so currently i use the app "Do Not Disturb" which sets a timer (I have it from 10pm-5am) so that my phone gets switched to silent while I sleep and I won't get woken by my friends drunkenly calling me all night long... what I'm wondering, is if there is any app like Do Not Disturb, except with some kind of white list, so I can set it so if my Mom calls (might be an emergency) it will still ring. any ideas? i've looked but haven't been able to find something like that.
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Haven't seen anything like that, but seems like a perfectly reasonable feature.
Maybe the dev would be receptive to adding such a feature if you contact them?
second this request.
even the cheap nokias and sony ericssons have it. been missing it since I started using wm/android. found some sw that did it on wm, but they all sucked
with the google contacts groups, this shouldn't be to difficult, should it? I would like to have it implemented in an app like 'profiles'
Foxyring. Amazing app. Everything you want and more.
It's main purpose is to every so often(user adjustable) turn on the mic and listen to the ambient noise wherever you are(even if the phone is in your pocket) and raise or lower the volume of your ringtones. I have noticed no effect on my battery at all.
Second it comes with a widget to silence your phone for a period of time. Like you use for the movies.
It has an option for sleeping hours. Always be silent between blah and blah.
And then it has exactly what you are looking for. An emergency contacts list that will ring regardless of the ringtone status.
Also has a location aware setting like locale for other ringtone options. i.e. change your ringtone from "BOOTY EVERYWHERE" to Bethovens 5th when you are at your moms automatically.
App placed in top three for ADC2. It deserved it. I have not adjusted my rigtone volume in the past 3 weeks and it has been perfect everytime.
Ever since I updated to FroYo, I lost the feature of having vibrate only for phone calls and text messages. Usually using the volume rocker (up and down) it would go from silent > vibrate > ring.. On FroYo it goes from silent > ring..
Any idea how to fix it?
I know I can do it manually by making the option be vibrate on silent in phone settings.. But sometimes I do not want my phone to vibrate on silent.. Just a hassle of going into settings and turning it off each time when i do not want it
It sounds like your problem is two fold.
First, mine goes from sound bar down to vibrate. (I don't know if ADW launcher has an affect on this or not).
Secondly, you might want to look in to the settings applications on the market and see if you can set and restore settings for those times you want just silent and vibrate for some parts.
Are you using modaco's rom?
I use a widget called extended controls which is like an enhanced version of the stock power control widget. It has options for vibrate only or complete mute.
sliding the speaker on the lock screen should put it on vibrate only on froyo
Nope the Lock screen slide makes it completely silent. Is it only Modaco's rom ?
Did you check settings> sounds > vibrate and ensure it is not never or only when not silent?
Well neither of those options help because its either one or the other. I do not want it to always vibrate or just vibrate when on silent.. I dont know why it disappeared :S
Did you try "vibrate only on silent mode" and see if you get the option? I'm tuning kang-of-rama froyo and it works and that is what mine is set to. Otherwise maybe reflash your rom?
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Did you try "vibrate only on silent mode" and see if you get the option? I'm tuning kang-of-rama froyo and it works and that is what mine is set to. Otherwise maybe reflash your rom?
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Vibrate only in silent mode defeats the purpose of silent mode
Stupid google, wth were they thinking with this change. I don't understand why they had to fix something that wasn't broken.
you can do it from individual app setting for sound, and in the home screen setting. that way you can tailor each app's vibrate, or silence the way you prefer.
Everyone is missing the point here. I have a Droid running Froyo and am experiencing the same problem. It is really not that hard to understand, but so many forums about this issue are full of replies that misunderstand the issue:
Prior to Froyo, Silent and Vibrate were 2 distinct functions:
Silent: ringer volume at zero and vibrate was disabled. Perfect for a theatre or a quiet meeting where even a vibrate would be annoying and disrespectful.
Vibrate: ringer volume at zero and vibrate enabled. Perfect for keeping the phone in your pocket, being aware of notifications, but not having your phone beeping and ringing all day.
This all makes sense, yes? By using the volume rocker, it was possible to adjust from full ringer volume down to low ringer volume. If you continued down after the volume was at it quietest, you activated vibrate mode. Then, if you clicked down once more, you would enable silent mode. Also all makes sense. And is extremely useful and intuitive.
In Froyo, Google has changed the way the OS handles volume control when it comes to silent mode and vibrate mode. And quite frankly, they have screwed it all up. Now, in Settings, you can specify whether the phone should vibrate "Always", "Never", "Only in Silent Mode", "Only when not in Silent Mode".
Ugh. So what that means is they have essentially done away with a distinction between silent and vibrate and now instead of having quick access to both options, you have to pick whether silent means truly silent like before or whether it really means vibrate. So frustrating.
So far, the only solutions I have seen out there are to download one of the many widgets that allows you to toggle between vibrate, silent, and ringing via a home screen icon. But this is not good enough. I want Volume Rocker control back of true Silent and true Vibrate modes.
Someone here on XDA must know how to fix this. Can't someone come up with an app that overrides the volume rocker? Or even an update.zip that restores the 2.1 functionality here?
Here's to hoping!
EDIT: here is the official google help thread on this topic: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=3f836bd37ec0dc88&hl=en
Hmm it seems i'm not the only one who misses that option on Froyo!
I used it quite a lot...going from sound to vibrate (when going out) then going into a meeting just one more click and the phone was on silent.
There must be someone who knows how to fix this?
Any news on this ?
Tbh I like the new way much better
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for a second i thought i was going crazy but it seems like everyone has the same problem
oh well, here's hoping google fixes this soon. i want the old "silent [no vibrate] -> vibrate only -> ringer+vibrate" setup back.
Agreed I prefer 2.1's behaviour.
I'm using Curvefish's "Beautiful Vibrate" widget as a workaround for now.
i just upgraded to froyo and this missing feature also really annoys me..
it's been some time since the last post in this thread. are there any proper solutions/workarounds yet?
Settings -> sound -> check silent state
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sorry, there's nothing to check there this post within this thread describes the problem very well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6975085&postcount=12
i can't find the "beautiful vibrate" widget within the market, guess it doesn't exist anymore?
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i'm using "silent toggle widget" now, seems to be working as expected, but of course doesn't replace the volume rocker feature/settings from 2.1
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I dont really like active notifications since it seems to suck up a little more battery than i want. anyway regardless of battery drain or not, for someone who does not want active notifications, does this phone have any LED notifications when you have a message?
also, on my older android phone, when i am on call the phone screen will automatically turn on if i move the phone away from my ear and look at he screen (eg. to press tone keypad for automated machines or voicemail). The moto x doesnt do that, it stays off, is there a way to fix this?
thanks,
geminihc said:
I dont really like active notifications since it seems to suck up a little more battery than i want. anyway regardless of battery drain or not, for someone who does not want active notifications, does this phone have any LED notifications when you have a message?
also, on my older android phone, when i am on call the phone screen will automatically turn on if i move the phone away from my ear and look at he screen (eg. to press tone keypad for automated machines or voicemail). The moto x doesnt do that, it stays off, is there a way to fix this?
thanks,
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1. No this phone doesn't have an LED
2. It should...maybe your phone is defective?
Ever since Lollipop I have been frustrated with the lack of ability to turn off the phone's vibrate easily. I used to just set my phone to silent mode all the time (in fact, all day at work). Now my phone is probably louder than it would be otherwise simply because it's vibrating my whole freaking desk every time a notification comes across. I tried using tasker to just lower the volumes but you still can't turn off the vibrate. How in the world can I get this phone to simply show the notifications on the screen (or my Moto 360) without sound and without vibrating?
Also just to add, if I set my priority to None, it will be silent and still show the notifications on the screen, but then they won't show on my Moto 360. Ugh.
For 360-only notifications: Android Wear app -> Settings -> Mute phone alerts & calls
This way, your phone will be silent and your 360 will function as normal. However, this won't stop your 360 from vibrating.