It is pretty obvious to me that rooting voids your warranty on Moto X (non-dev edition) as is the case with many many other android devices.
My problem is that all my experience has been with Samsung devices and if you use Odin and TriangleAway correctly Samsung won't even notice you messed with your phone (I had this experience with my mother's S3).
Right now I have my Moto X on 4.2.2 (camera patched) rooted using RockMyMoto which I have done after reading a little bit about some aspects of having a locked bootloader phone.
After reading that you could return to stock (including recovery) using RSD Lite I came to the conclusion that, in this case, Motorola wouldn't notice you messed with your phone. This is why I decided to RockMyMoto.
There is a chance I'm wrong about my conclusion, please correct me if that's the case.
After reading SlapMyMoto thread I came to the conclusion that after you use MotoWpNoMo you are stuck with write-protection disabled forever and there is no turning back! In this case Motorola can and will most likely find out if you messed with your phone.
I have a Brazilian Moto X which can have its bootloader unlocked but If you do this Motorola will have the device ID in its database. They'll DEFINITELY know if you messed with your phone.
My point is, should I unlock my bootloader or should I stick with SlapMyMoto? I need some opinions about this!
I prefer SlapMyMoto. I really don't see a reason to unlock the bootloader unless you can't live without CWMR or TWRP. There's very little development going on for both roms and kernels.
Hi this is a pretty simple question but if someone could expand (if it is possible) by listing what needs to be done that'd be extremely helpful.
I read through the guides in the general section and i read that for at&t 4.4.2 the bootloader is locked and attempting to downgrade will brick my phone. So does this mean that i can't root my phone and flash roms? or can I, and if so what needs to be done before I download a toolkit and proceed? I'm on stock at&t OTA 4.4.2 firmware.
thanks for reading.
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Hi this is a pretty simple question but if someone could expand (if it is possible) by listing what needs to be done that'd be extremely helpful.
I read through the guides in the general section and i read that for at&t 4.4.2 the bootloader is locked and attempting to downgrade will brick my phone. So does this mean that i can't root my phone and flash roms? or can I, and if so what needs to be done before I download a toolkit and proceed? I'm on stock at&t OTA 4.4.2 firmware.
thanks for reading.
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without an unlocked bootloader, your out of luck. You might be able to "safestrap," but last i heard, that isn't an option on OS 4.4.2.
You will need to unlock your bootloader to flash any roms. Unfortunately there is no official way to unlock your bootloader for an AT&T branded Moto X. Since you are on 4.4.2 safestrap is also not an option. There is currently a root method for 4.4.2, but it doesn't disable write protection. Disabling write protection is required to make any permanent changes to the system. Without that ability any changes will revert back after rebooting. This includes root since that requires modifying the system. There is an unofficial way to unlock your bootloader through a Chinese middleman that has acquired databases with unlock codes. There is no guarantee that this person will have your code and seems to only be able to acquire codes from devices assembled in 2014. The middleman is selling the codes for ~$45. The information is at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
If you want to try rooting you can try the method from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623
Sent from my Moto X.
Dark9781 said:
You will need to unlock your bootloader to flash any roms. Unfortunately there is no official way to unlock your bootloader for an AT&T branded Moto X. Since you are on 4.4.2 safestrap is also not an option. There is currently a root method for 4.4.2, but it doesn't disable write protection. Disabling write protection is required to make any permanent changes to the system. Without that ability any changes will revert back after rebooting. This includes root since that requires modifying the system. There is an unofficial way to unlock your bootloader through a Chinese middleman that has acquired databases with unlock codes. There is no guarantee that this person will have your code and seems to only be able to acquire codes from devices assembled in 2014. The middleman is selling the codes for ~$45. The information is at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
If you want to try rooting you can try the method from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623
Sent from my Moto X.
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thanks for the info.
the main reason i'm trying to flash a ROM is I lost rear camera functionality just randomly. Haven't found anyone else with this issue. Can I download the 4.4.3 OTA and flash it in the stock recovery? Or will I have problems with that?
Heisenberg420 said:
thanks for the info.
the main reason i'm trying to flash a ROM is I lost rear camera functionality just randomly. Haven't found anyone else with this issue. Can I download the 4.4.3 OTA and flash it in the stock recovery? Or will I have problems with that?
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The 4.4.3 is for T-Mobile and unlocked bootloaders. If it is just your rear camera having an issue you could try a factory reset or flashing the stock ROM for AT&T for 4.4.2 using RSDLite. If that doesn't work it may be a hardware problem. You may want to try a warranty exchange.
Sent from my Moto X.
I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):
You should check out the 'Chinese Middleman' thread. If you get the bootloader unlocked you should be able to fix anything.
I can't unlock the bootloader since this is not a Dev edition. Unless something has changed, I'll check it.
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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Even though it's not a Dev edition?
Yes you should be able too.
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Even though it's not a Dev edition?
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All XT1053s can be unlocked, yes. Additionally, if you follow my advice, you don't NEED to unlock. If one of the commands fails, simply skip to the next as I previously advised, and TRY flashing with RSD Lite after you have run the commands I listed.
If you want to check and make sure fastboot is working, type:
fastboot devices
if you see your phone and it's serial number listed, you fastboot IS properly communicating with your phone.
You do not need to unlock your BL to do any of this...but if you are interested in ROOTING, you will need to.
All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?
shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.
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All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?
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I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
danman421 said:
I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.
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It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.
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I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.
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So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?
danman421 said:
So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?
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You can attempt to, by either editing the XML in the SBF and removing the line that says "erase userdata", or by skipping the erase userdata if you use the manual method, but either way CAN mess everything up.
You used an EXPLOIT previously. Any time you use an exploit, you should -expect- to have to wipe everything and re-install from scratch if you want to get back to stock in order to be able to take updates. Keep this in mind if you use any exploits in the future.
Hi! This hasn't seemed to spelled out yet..... But many Moto x's can be unlocked, not just dev editions. However, you stated in the opening post that you have a Verizon Non dev, which can not be unlocked. Only way is to pay the "China middleman" (See thread in general with that name).
And personally.... I would stay on 4.2.2 and do the Slapmymoto method to get root and write protection disabled. That is the best root scenario, aside from unlocking the bootloader.
If you update to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled always, and no root, or sorta root with towelroot and pie. But that will limit what you can do.
See the How do I root my phone sticky thread in general for your options.
I should have posted earlier. I ran RSDLite and put the newest version on. I am unrooted. My Moto X is a Sept '13 version the the middleman probably wont work anyways. Its not worth it with this phone, im tired of the rooting, I guess im at that point in my life... Thanks for all your help though guys!
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I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):
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Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.
You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.
KidJoe said:
Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.
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Good catch! ?
OP... Perhaps full disclosure of what you have done on the phone would help.
Or is that how it was?
If it's been downgraded to 4.2.2 after being on 4.4.2... As said above.... You could brick now... Especially if you OTA.
I'd tread lightly at this point.
danman421 said:
You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.
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so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.
Yes, that was a good catch. What I did was RSD Lite to 4.4.4 now which reset all my data.
KidJoe said:
so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.
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Correct, I do not need help anymore but thank you.
Hello everybody.
I apologize in advance for my English.
I have a problem with my Moto X.
To begin with, I bought it month ago. It is xt1056. At least it was written on the box and on the back. But the system itself was by xt1053. I didn't pay any attention to this fact.
Don't have root, bootloader is locked.
And 2 days ago I recieved the system update to 4.4.4, after which the phone doesn't see my sim.
I unlocked my device and began to install different versions of system, from different providers. No results. Tried to install another front-end. No results.
The bad thing is, yesterday I installed Sprint's 4.4.2 version and upgraded it "by air", forgetting about my unlocked boot.
Now, suprisingly, my bootlaoder is LOCKED and I can't unlock it through the Motorola's site.
Also I can't install any of systems.
Does it mean that my device is "dead"? Or is there any chance to do something?
Hi,
First, questions go in the Q&A section. ?
Second, please do read read read before playing with your device. It's an extremely well known fact, and posted all over this section, that downgrading your android version on the moto x is very likely to brick your phone.
You can check out this thread and see if you can save your device...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2629057
Another option, if or when, the 4.4.4 firmware files for your device are released...you can try manually flashing them with fastboot and mfastboot....if you can get into boot loader mode.
Trying to flash anything less than 4.4.4 now will not likely help....and could make things worse.
Good luck!
I'm on the Verizon network and I want to purchase the Motorola Moto X and put cyanogenmod on it. I read that I have to have the developer edition of the phone in order to do this. I was thinking of purchasing it from this ebay vendor...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-XT...55120?pt=Cell_Phones&var=&hash=item5d507be410
This is my first time purchasing a phone on ebay so I wanted to make sure I am getting the correct phone. I guess my question(s) would be...
Can I install cyanogenmod on this phone? Is this the developer edition phone?
Thanks.
You should be able to install custom ROMs, including CM, with a little effort. This does not appear to be a dev phone. However, all you need is the ability to unlock the bootloader in order do the things necessary to flash custom ROMs. In terms of flashing ROMs, the only difference between a dev phone and an unlocked regular phone is the dev phone will still have an intact warranty. Since this device supposedly comes with 4.2.2, you should be able to run sunshine from the rootninja to unlock the bootloader for $25 (I think it's 25).
You sound like a fairly new flasher. In that case, you need to read read read. Forums, tutorials, every sticky in the Moto X forum, fastboot/adb tutorials, read read read. There are smart people (I am not one of those people) here who will help you but you will save yourself a lot of time and frustration if you educate yourself first. Best of luck my friend and happy flashing.
P.S. always remember to nandroid.
Like cntryby429 said IF it does indeed come with Android version 4.2.2 than you should be able to unlock with sunshine and flash away. I would definitely double check with the seller first though and make sure that is what is actually on the phone.
You'll possibly be disappointed when you use any rom other than stock based ones. No unique moto features on them.... And certain so far unfixed bugs.
Stock and gravity box seems to be the popular choice. If your bootloader is unlocked and you're rooted.
If by chance you get a 4.4.4 device.... You won't be able to Root or pay even to unlock.... As of today.
Good luck!
Thanks for the help guys.
@KJ
What moto features are you referring to? As a former Droid X user I can say that I'm flashing cyanogenmod to get rid of moto features/bloatware. The seller said that the phone was on 4.2.2, so I don't think that 4.4.4 will be a problem for me. Also, I was also under the assumption that cyanogenmod gave me root by default. Has that changed?
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Thanks for the help guys.
@KJ
What moto features are you referring to? As a former Droid X user I can say that I'm flashing cyanogenmod to get rid of moto features/bloatware. The seller said that the phone was on 4.2.2, so I don't think that 4.4.4 will be a problem for me. Also, I was also under the assumption that cyanogenmod gave me root by default. Has that changed?
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If you unlock your bootloader, which you would have to to flash any rom.... Rooting is simple. Unlock. Flash custom recovery. Flash SU binaries, tho I think twrp and the others do this.... Then install SU. Done.
Active display and touchless control are only on stock and stock based roms. That's why most stay stock and use Gravity box to customize.
And maybe it's changed, but last I knew... Aosp/cm roms have sound or speaker issues. That's the big issue.
Debloating what you don't want is as simple as freezing the apps with titanium backup. ?
Just my 2 cents. To each their own of course.
CM or any custom ROM will have root built in. But you have to be unlocked and rooted with custom recovery before you can flash. Moto x features KJ was referring to would be active display, touch less control, and assist. Any AOSP, or CM based ROM will not have these features. I have flashed about every ROM available for our device and always return to stock. Xposed modules will allow you to customize your phone while running stock firmware. And if you want to remove bloat, just being rooted will allow that.
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I'm on the Verizon network and I want to purchase the Motorola Moto X and put cyanogenmod on it. I read that I have to have the developer edition of the phone in order to do this. I was thinking of purchasing it from this ebay vendor...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-XT...55120?pt=Cell_Phones&var=&hash=item5d507be410
This is my first time purchasing a phone on ebay so I wanted to make sure I am getting the correct phone. I guess my question(s) would be...
Can I install cyanogenmod on this phone? Is this the developer edition phone?
Thanks.
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First off that listing of specs looks like a copy/paste of the default Moto X feature set when it shipped. I would question that it really still has 4.2.2 rom on there, especially since it says "seller refurbished." 4.2.2 was the initial version the X shipped with, and the first OTA update. Since then, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 have been pushed too it.
It does not appear to be a Developer Edition of the XT1060, but rather a regular retail or Moto Maker version.
To flash any rom besides the Stock and signed by Moto roms for the Verizon XT1060 onto the phone, you need to Unlock the Bootloader.
As @kwyrt mentioned, Sunshine can be used to unlock the bootloader if the XT1060 is on 4.4.2 or lower (and its bootloader is for 4.4.2 or lower). As @KJ said, if you have 4.4.4 you can't bootloader unlock. That is because Sunshine doesn't work 4.4.4, Moto doesn't give out the unlock codes for the Non-Developer Edition XT1060, and the China Middleman (who was selling codes) isn't responding.
So it all comes down to how accurate that listing is. Does it really have 4.2.2? or did they upgrade it when "refurbishing" it but used a copy/paste of an old "spec sheet"?
And of course, if it was a true developer edition, you could just get the bootloader unlock code from Moto's web site and be done with it.