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Really worth it?

I just wanna ask the people who have run out and bought this phone if its really all that? I have read reviews watched them talk about it on android central and looked at the specs and compared it to the other phones that are out. I just want to know expierences so far

Well the scary thing to me is... I don't feel the need to root at the moment... It's smooth, battery life is amazing, active notifications are AWWWWESOME. once bootloader is figured out I may change my tune but my phone is in a very comfortable state. I LOVE IT!
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This phone changes the game. The spec sheet race is kind of silly when you think about it. I've never held a phone in my hands that feels as good as this one. I'm very happy with it

Simple answer. Yes. X8 core processors system is the way of the future.
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totally worth it
i truly prefer this over my year old s3

Love it! Switched from my S4GE and love the smaller size and feel in hand. Im only looking forward to root for tethering capabilities.
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What is the call quality and speakerphone like?

I picked this phone over my s4 and I think I've made the right choice.
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kstone2274 said:
I just wanna ask the people who have run out and bought this phone if its really all that? I have read reviews watched them talk about it on android central and looked at the specs and compared it to the other phones that are out. I just want to know expierences so far
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i went to the att store today and played with this phone and i can say im definately not impressed at all. i compared the screen side by side and the difference in the 2 screens is really noticable. Also it so reminds me of a iphone i dont know why but it just does. i know alot of people are gonna argue my opinion but as for a phone guru as myself i can pretty much say its not any kind of a flagship device. only thing that may be good about it more than my HTC One is battery life. I al really hoping the hanami is gonna be a great phone and be my next purchase

i think you meant to start a new post that said "i saw this phone for 5 minutes, i'll answer all my own questions!"

I think the more you use this phone the more you will appreciate the innovation and little things. I now love this phone.
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What is the call quality and speakerphone like?
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I came from the N4, which totally sucked. I had to strain to hear people. The X has excellent call quality, earpiece and speaker volume.

Well worth the cash:beer:
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People crying over the dual-core processor...Motorola decided to choose what mattered more, which is battery life over "raw computing power". without increasing the size or the weight of the phone by adding a bigger and bulkier battery. Our phones just need to be fast and smooth enough for our every day tasks such as watching videos, playing games, browsing etc. We're not using these things for high end computing or folding proteins etc. Just like a computer with a 12 core processor won't matter if you're still using HDD and not SSD. Or people who only care about the "horses" on a car and disregard the weight of the vehicle or its transmission etc. I don't think people understand the software possibilities of having hardware designed for "always-on" mode besides the touchless google now feature. I've tried installing a voice assistant like the one on Moto X from the play store and my battery died within a couple hours with the screen off. The X8 system is really redefining how conventional smartphones would work in the future once people realize the possibilities that can bring. Now whether or not you agree that your smartphone should always be on and listening/aware is a different debate.

Droyyd said:
People crying over the dual-core processor...Motorola decided to choose what mattered more, which is battery life over "raw computing power". without increasing the size or the weight of the phone by adding a bigger and bulkier battery. Our phones just need to be fast and smooth enough for our every day ta"qsks such as watching videos, playing games, browsing etc. We're not using these things for high end computing or folding proteins etc. Just like a computer with a 12 core processor won't matter if you're still using HDD and not SSD. Or people who only care about the "horses" on a car and disregard the weight of the vehicle or its transmission etc. I don't think people understand the software possibilities of having hardware designed for "always-on" mode besides the touchless google now feature. I've tried installing a voice assistant like the one on Moto X from the play store and my battery died within a couple hours with the screen off. The X8 system is really redefining how conventional smartphones would work in the future once people realize the possibilities that can bring. Now whether or not you agree that your smartphone should always be on and listening/aware is a different debate.
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The phone isn't underpowered. Its GLBenchmark results are better than the SGS4 and HTC One. The CPU is two Krait 300 cores (which is the same as what's in the Snapdragon 600). With two cores disabled on the Nexus 4, the device runs just fine. If I can get this device for a good price, it will be my next phone.

I'll be the first to admit I wrong (there I said it). When I first heard the specs and price point, I figured Moto was doomed and their marketing gurus priced them right out of a comeback. Again, I was wrong.
Friday I picked up a Galaxy Mega 6.3 from AT&T and I took it back on Saturday afternoon. Very laggy (not as much as the S4 though), it was huge (and I'm a big guy at 6'3" 330lbs), the only thing I can say was good was the typing experience because I had so much room on the screen. But the phone was just too big, probably a great device in the end but just not for me.
Saturday afternoon I picked up the Black AT&T Moto X and this phone is fantastic and I don't say that about a lot of phones at all (I think the last time I said it was in 2007 when the first iPhone came out (yes I've used and respect all of the OS's, each has their own pluses and minuses) and before that, when the Moto Razr came out.
The phone feels perfect (IMO) in the hand, like Moto took the time to actually do the research with actual customers and see what they liked and didn't like and made change until they got it right. The 4.7" screen, in the same space as the iPhone 5 claims to only be able to fit 4", is great. Battery life is phenomenal (I'm not a heavy user but I never charged it out of the box and the charge that came on it lasted until it hit 4% this morning (Monday) when I got to the office at 6:30am. Build quality is great and believe me I have a mild case of OCD so I checked it out, buttons are nice with a definite tactile click to them (unlike the HTC One's power button that's almost always sunken in), buttons don't rattle (like they do on the S4 and the i5), soft touch material is great, screen is bright and not quite as SAMOLED'y as the S4 (again IMO) but marginally less impressive than the Super LCD3 on the HTC One. Focusing on day-to-day use and user experience, I have to admit I think it was the right way to go for a change.
There's more but I'm sure those of you that have one know what I'm talking about and those that don't, go try one out (at least if you're on AT&T for the moment here in the US), if you don't like it, return it but you might find yourself pleasantly surprised. I've only had it for two days but as right now, barring anything major popping up before the end of the next 10 days, I think this one is a keeper. And if this one develops an issue, I don't think I'd be getting anything else, I'd have this one DOA'ed and get another, it is really that good.
Excellent Job Google and Motorola on this one; very, very impressed.

A-Gon said:
I came from the N4, which totally sucked. I had to strain to hear people. The X has excellent call quality, earpiece and speaker volume.
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That's really good to know. I had a N4 for a week and absolutely loved it. I had the ticking sound in the earpiece when on a call and buzzing whenever the screen was on. I couldn't justify the money for such obvious design flaws. It is comforting knowing the X is better in this regards.

Jeff199 said:
I'll be the first to admit I wrong (there I said it). When I first heard the specs and price point, I figured Moto was doomed and their marketing gurus priced them right out of a comeback. Again, I was wrong.
Friday I picked up a Galaxy Mega 6.3 from AT&T and I took it back on Saturday afternoon. Very laggy (not as much as the S4 though), it was huge (and I'm a big guy at 6'3" 330lbs), the only thing I can say was good was the typing experience because I had so much room on the screen. But the phone was just too big, probably a great device in the end but just not for me.
Saturday afternoon I picked up the Black AT&T Moto X and this phone is fantastic and I don't say that about a lot of phones at all (I think the last time I said it was in 2007 when the first iPhone came out (yes I've used and respect all of the OS's, each has their own pluses and minuses) and before that, when the Moto Razr came out.
The phone feels perfect (IMO) in the hand, like Moto took the time to actually do the research with actual customers and see what they liked and didn't like and made change until they got it right. The 4.7" screen, in the same space as the iPhone 5 claims to only be able to fit 4", is great. Battery life is phenomenal (I'm not a heavy user but I never charged it out of the box and the charge that came on it lasted until it hit 4% this morning (Monday) when I got to the office at 6:30am. Build quality is great and believe me I have a mild case of OCD so I checked it out, buttons are nice with a definite tactile click to them (unlike the HTC One's power button that's almost always sunken in), buttons don't rattle (like they do on the S4 and the i5), soft touch material is great, screen is bright and not quite as SAMOLED'y as the S4 (again IMO) but marginally less impressive than the Super LCD3 on the HTC One. Focusing on day-to-day use and user experience, I have to admit I think it was the right way to go for a change.
There's more but I'm sure those of you that have one know what I'm talking about and those that don't, go try one out (at least if you're on AT&T for the moment here in the US), if you don't like it, return it but you might find yourself pleasantly surprised. I've only had it for two days but as right now, barring anything major popping up before the end of the next 10 days, I think this one is a keeper. And if this one develops an issue, I don't think I'd be getting anything else, I'd have this one DOA'ed and get another, it is really that good.
Excellent Job Google and Motorola on this one; very, very impressed.
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What device were you originally coming from? I'm coming from the HTC Vivid (I'm torn between trading it in for cash and shooting it out of a cannon)

ShamanicEnzan said:
What device were you originally coming from? I'm coming from the HTC Vivid (I'm torn between trading it in for cash and shooting it out of a cannon)
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Recently I've had the SGS4, HTC One, iPhone 5 and the Optimus G Pro. User experience and build quality, the X wins and like I said in my post, I was not a believer of the X when I first heard about it but after trying it I'm am very pleasantly surprised. My suggestion again would be to try it and if after a week you aren't at least partially sold on it, take it back. There are definitely a lot of good choices out there right now, it's all about what works for you.

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Recently I've had the SGS4, HTC One, iPhone 5 and the Optimus G Pro. User experience and build quality, the X wins and like I said in my post, I was not a believer of the X when I first heard about it but after trying it I'm am very pleasantly surprised. My suggestion again would be to try it and if after a week you aren't at least partially sold on it, take it back. There are definitely a lot of good choices out there right now, it's all about what works for you.
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I plan on going motomaker, doubt there are refunds on that one.

Nexus 5 vs. GNEX

Just my 2 cents as information for folks who are pondering to switch from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 5:
I used my Gnex for 2 Years or so and were quite happily. After reading through the threads i was a little bit worried about the speakers and other things - but all in all i can say the Nexus 5 is worth the switch!
First impressions after 1 day playing around:
- it is fast as hell - even with all the same apps installed again!
- the camera is very, very ok! Not as good as the first published pictures promised but a lot better than the old one - especially in dark areas.
- the hdr mode is very cool!
- the loudness of the speakers is clearly louder than on the Gnex! And for my ears its not a "tin can sound"!
- the battery lasts longer than the gnex - even with its first loading!
- no clickering sounds from the power / volume buttons
- display is great, no angle problems - surfing is fun with that!
- UPDATE: Played around with the GPS (Sygic and GPStool) -> fixes are clearly faster than with the GNEX and navigation is nearly "realtime". The N5 doesnt get so hot as the GNEX too!
- UPDATE: Display colors: brighter and black is "more black" than on gnex!
Drawbacks so far:
- had some fc's when starting the camera
- i am too stupid to let the notification led do its job together with K9 mail, calendar and sms/hangouts
- I liked the center of weight better on the Gnex which was more on the bottom side than exact in the middle like Nexus 4, 5, G2 etc...
UPDATE: use light flow for the led - and everything is fine!
UPDATE: unfortunately my pics cannot back up my subjective display impressions
hope this infos are helping someone...

Good information for the small minority of people who still own a Galaxy Nexus and wanting to switch to a Nexus 5.
Worth a new thread? Probably not.

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Good information for the small minority of people who still own a Galaxy Nexus and wanting to switch to a Nexus 5.
Worth a new thread? Probably not.
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That's a bit harsh.
Small minority?
A lot of people who got a gnex signed up for 2 year contracts so it's around the time they'll be looking for a new handset.
I'm one of those and i know of a couple more who have already upgraded from gnex to N5

From GNex to Nexus 4 to Nexus 5
Here's my additional comments to those possibly thinking of upgrading - From GNex to Nexus 4 to Nexus 5
Users coming from GNex -
The difference between Gnex to Nexus 4 was amazing. Definitely worth the upgrade in every aspect. Users coming from the GNex to the Nexus 5 directly will notice a night and day difference in every aspect also. Speed speed speed!
Users coming from Nexus 4 -
I just received my Nexus 5 yesterday and am experiencing mixed emotions on whether it's worth the upgrade from the Nexus 4. First observations aren't overly impressive. I like the overall build of the n5 except for the camera ring sticking out. I've already read a few reports of it scratching/chipping simply from placing it on a table. I've never used cases on previous phones but this one might need something to protect it. However, cases take away from the look and feel of the phone so it's a tough decision.
I'm disappointed the screen edges aren't slightly rounded like the n4. It made swiping feel nice and comfortable and that's somewhat lost with the n5. My n5 'whites' seem washed out or 'yellowish/creamy' compared to the n4. "Same IPS screen", maybe just need to give this a day or so to settle in. It took a while between my Gnex and n4 to get used to. I don't know enough about screen technology to know if any of this is normal or not.
Possibly my biggest annoyance with the phone is on the bottom right back of the phone (on the speaker side) I seem to have a small raised surface, almost as if the back wasn't fully snapped in. Pressing down with force doesn't snap anything further into place though - this feels like a defect and something that'll annoy me if I keep the phone. I compared to a friend's and it's definitely less to almost not there on his. Not sure if this is the clip/glue/material or whatever is holding the device together that's causing the slight raised surface.
I can't comment on battery life to much yet. This morning I left the house on a full charge and got to the office at 78% (45 minute commute door to door - normal use, just reading G+ and reddit). On the n4 I'd be down to about 70% with the same use. Not much better but needs more testing. A big deciding factor will be whether the phone gets as hot as the n4 did from moderately heavy use. I haven't given the camera or speakers a test yet but will later on.
The s800 doesn't feel THAT much faster than the s4 pro when comparing side by side in the OS. Yes, it is (obviously), but only slightly during navigation and loading apps. There isn't enough of a WOW factor coming from the n4 here as I was hoping.
Overall, I'm going to give the phone a few days before deciding whether to keep it or return it.

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That's a bit harsh.
Small minority?
A lot of people who got a gnex signed up for 2 year contracts so it's around the time they'll be looking for a new handset.
I'm one of those and i know of a couple more who have already upgraded from gnex to N5
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Disregarding if its a small minority or not.. I personally don't think its worth a new thread because there is enough information on this phone on this forum.
It doesn't need a N5 VS Gnex thread to find out if the N5 is better then the Gnex.
Thats all I'm gonna post on this thread. I don't want to spam/ Off Topic any more.

Good to hear and thanks for the thread. There's plenty of GNex folks still coming off contract the next few months.
I should be getting mine tomorrow. I too am switching from a GNex. I have home, bills, kids, etc and don't buy each new phone that comes out. I really didn't see the need. My big rationale now is dumping VZN. The N5 should be a nice update for a carrier switch!
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Disregarding if its a small minority or not.. I personally don't think its worth a new thread because there is enough information on this phone on this forum.
It doesn't need a N5 VS Gnex thread to find out if the N5 is better then the Gnex.
Thats all I'm gonna post on this thread. I don't want to spam/ Off Topic any more.
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If that's the case why read the thread let alone respond to it? It's senseless.

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Good information for the small minority of people who still own a Galaxy Nexus and wanting to switch to a Nexus 5.
Worth a new thread? Probably not.
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everyone should switch phone every 2 years to notice the "upgrade"

Tomorrow should have many new Nexus 5 owners with the big November 8th deliver wave.

Haven't played around with it much, but I can vouch for the speed. I'm currently in the process of rooting the device with the Nexus 5 Multi-Tool, and it got me in a bootloop (yay).

Pretty impressed too
I too came from the Galaxy Nexus. Naked, the Nexus 5 is way more grippy but I still learned my lesson and bought a case for this phone. The GNEX would constantly slip out of my hands and pockets with no case. The speed increase is nuts. The GNEX was never a slouch but man this thing screams. Apps, webpages load almost as fast as my desktop PC with a SSD in it. I feel like I gain minutes a day doing the same things I used to do on my old phone.
The one thing that blew my mind with Android 4.4? I wake up almost daily before my alarm goes off. So when I woke up early I was fiddling with my phone and I noticed a alarm notification. Dismiss alarm 30 minutes before its set to go off. How amazing, normally I would wait until it went off to do my morning routine, because I'd forget to turn my recurring alarm back on. More minutes saved everyday...

I currently own a GNex and my N5 is sitting at the local UPS depot. Hopefully I will get it tonight. In any event I am excited to start using the the phone. My GNex has the volume bug and so I cannot have conversations longer than 5 minutes without losing the ability to hear the other person. In addition, my battery life has become terrible and the screen is degenerating (lots of burn in). Not that the screen was of the greatest quality to begin with, but I can definitely see the difference with age.
In any event I will post my comparison when I receive my new phone.

Agree on the speed difference. Night and day - even versus an over clocked GNex. Chrome now actually works well as it should.
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I owned a GNEX for a little bit a few years back and what a terrible phone that was. The screen was crap, the camera was one of the worst I have seen and the battery life.....OH THE BATTERY LIFE!
Going to an N4 from the GNEX might put you into a small acoma but going from the GNEX to the N5, let's just say be sure to breath slowly and have someone near you who can call you an ambulance if you start feeling chest pains.

Coming from the Galaxy Nexus myself, Chrome and its stupid, stupid "font boosting" is my biggest gripe with the Nexus 5. Can't wait for the AOSP Browser at least until an option (I would be happy with a chrome://flag...) arrives. But I'm waiting for 1,5 years now and still this simple option isn't there.
Enough Chrome rant, I loved my Galaxy Nexus but so far I've not looked back. The Nexus 5 is a great phone and it addresses my biggest problems with the Galaxy Nexus: speaker loudness and GPS accuracy and speed. My GPS problems were only minor but now I see that it can be much better. Also I can finally hear the navigation announcements AND listen to the radio!

I've been searching for gnex vs nex 5 comparisons and finding none. I'm glad to hear that battery life and speaker volume aren't things that I have to worry about.
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RedBlueGreen said:
Good information for the small minority of people who still own a Galaxy Nexus and wanting to switch to a Nexus 5.
Worth a new thread? Probably not.
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Spamming troll
Don't like it don't read it. Useless post in a good thread.
Thanks OP!

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Spamming troll
Don't like it don't read it. Useless post in a good thread.
Thanks OP!
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I think their only point was, if you start having comparison threads, where does it end?
But I like reading threads like this, cause I am also in teh 2 year upgrade club. I am coming from the HTC Sensation, very similar specs to the GNex, and I am loving life on the 5.
I also think that is the big split, on Nexus 5 performance on this forum. Some people are comparing it to a 2 month old phone, for their perception. While others are comparing it to a 2+ year old phone. I can imagine if I had the G2 or S4 and bought the Nexus 5, I wouldn't be nearly as impressed as I am coming from a dual core 768 MB of Ram phone.

Thanks for the comparison! I'm coming from a Gnex as well. The N5 is sitting in my desk drawer right now, I hope to sneak out at lunch and get a sim card for it. My biggest concern is the screen. I love the GN's screen and I'm not sure I'm ready for a screen where the blacks aren't black. I loved the GN, it's a great phone. We'll see tonight how I feel about the switch.

Blown 89 said:
Thanks for the comparison! I'm coming from a Gnex as well. The N5 is sitting in my desk drawer right now, I hope to sneak out at lunch and get a sim card for it. My biggest concern is the screen. I love the GN's screen and I'm not sure I'm ready for a screen where the blacks aren't black. I loved the GN, it's a great phone. We'll see tonight how I feel about the switch.
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You serious about the GNEX screen or you trolling?

Zandeer said:
I think their only point was, if you start having comparison threads, where does it end?
But I like reading threads like this, cause I am also in teh 2 year upgrade club. I am coming from the HTC Sensation, very similar specs to the GNex, and I am loving life on the 5.
I also think that is the big split, on Nexus 5 performance on this forum. Some people are comparing it to a 2 month old phone, for their perception. While others are comparing it to a 2+ year old phone. I can imagine if I had the G2 or S4 and bought the Nexus 5, I wouldn't be nearly as impressed as I am coming from a dual core 768 MB of Ram phone.
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The point is that Mr. Big Shot doesn't have GNex and doesn't care if anyone else will find it useful, but has to say something anyway. I believe that's called trolling. It was useless spam in context of this thread. It's not for him to decide if the thread is worth it or not (once again well done OP and BIG Thanks!).
There was number of threads comparing it to N4 and G2 but non to GNex. If you ask me this one is more useful than comparison to N4 (locked in 2 year contract as well). Other people read it. G2 vs Nexus5 on the other hand makes sense as it help you choose the right phone for you now.
Other comparison threads mention bad/quiet speaker on Nexus5. It made me worried because Gnex was really quiet. But this one say that it's way better than GNex which gives me a reference point and I know I can live with it

Should i get a nexus 6?

Hello, i was wondering if its worth getting a nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250. im just scared of the battery bulge problem, any advice will be great.

I'm using it for 2 years and didn't face any battery bulge problem, at least not yet.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

The phones dated march 2015 or later did not suffer the battery bulge problems.

Simplyeduardo said:
Hello, i was wondering if its worth getting a nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250. im just scared of the battery bulge problem, any advice will be great.
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Quite a few people got phones with bad speakers. They make hissing crackling sounds when the battery gets to lower percentages. Mine does this and it's a minor annoyance. Everything else about this device to me is SWEET! I LOVE my Nexus 6, but it's roulette getting a device without the speaker issue. Like I said, minor annoyance and totally usable without too much issue, but noticeable nonetheless. Great phone however, love mine.

Simplyeduardo said:
Hello, i was wondering if its worth getting a nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250. im just scared of the battery bulge problem, any advice will be great.
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Personally I would say Go For It...especially at that price!
I got my Nexus 6 in March of 2015 and Love It. So far it is the best phone I have owned so far. And that is say a lot since I previously owned the HTC EVO, HTC M7, and HTC M8.

Simplyeduardo said:
.... nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250.
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Keep your 250 and by a newer model.
In a few months their will be complete new Nexus models.
I am using N6 for about 2 years.
Out of the box the battery life wasn't enough for intensive use between 9 to 17. Cause the white user interface. I needed to unlock the bootloader and root the N6 to change the dpi and install layers and apps with a black background.
The N6 is good but the Google stuff is not.

Personally I would say for the next few months, try to put away $50-$100 each month until the new devices are released. While this phone is still operable for the age it is at, it lacks a few things such as fingerprint scanner and a nice camera. Not to mention the size, which can be off-putting for some.
My suggestion - Save your pennies and buy something with a Snapdragon 820+...That is at least my plan.

For 250.00 its still a solid option. The camera is fine and finger print scanner is not a huge deal. I would say it is a bit better then "operable". You will be looking at spending 600.00 to get the newest Nexus when it drops.

@smokinjoe2122: What do you define as "nice" in regards to the camera?
I personally find the camera to be quite excellent. It's no substitute for a dedicated camera if you have one. At the same time the best camera in the world will not help you if it's sitting in the camera bag when you need to get a picture.
Case in point, this picture would not have happened if I had to look for a dedicated camera in a bag. However, because I had my N6 on me, a seagull casually standing on a car was immortalized. But à chacun leur propre.
None of the things you mentioned, except for the size, are truly dealbreakers. The size can be intimidating, but to gain converts to the cause you simply have to time it right and hope they can keep an open mind. I managed to convert my roommate to a large-screen phone simply by letting her play with my N6 for a little while after I had gotten it. She got a Moto X Pure two months ago and couldn't be happier.
@Simplyeduardo, go ahead and spend the money, but you might want to invest in an OTG drive while you're at it. Especially if the phone only has 32GB of storage on it.

To answer your questions:
Comparing my Nexus 6 camera to my girlfriend's Nexus 5x, the difference is night and day, especially when it comes to HDR or low light pictures. There's also missing support for the latest features such as 4k video.
I also feel like finger print scanners are getting even more important for things such as Android pay and enterprise applications. If you've used an iPhone, many applications can be locked down with security only to be unlocked by the fingerprint scanner or pin. The Nexus 6 unfortunately will never have that technology (Sure you can use a pin, but FP is much better imho).
Lastly, the performance of this phone isn't the worst out there, but it defintely isn't the best. There's plenty of posts here and on Reddit that talk about performance issues, lag, stutters, ect. I for one can validate that, and I have a feeling it'll only get worse as Android will be designed to run better on the newer generation hardware.
So, do you spend $250 on a 1.5-2 year old phone, or do I put away another hundred to two hundred and get the newer generation Nexus or OnePlus 3?

my november 2014 bought n6 has an ever so slight buldge, with the back cover raised about 1mm(yes, barely). i bought mine for the full $650, plus tax. anyways, ive never even considered getting it relaced, as it does absolutely no harm to me or my use. ok, i cant use my n6 under water for sure, or water will get in..
but for $250, i wouldnt even think about it.

With all the development we have these phones are still relevant, and will be for quite some time. I used to trade up every 6 months to a year, but I have had this phone for almost 2 years now and see no reason to get a new one. IMHO a new phone wouldn't be an upgrade anyhow, we would have to wait on development. Just look at all the sweet mods and roms these awesome devs. Have created for us! There's something for everyone. Good luck, Happy flashing.

smokinjoe2122 said:
To answer your questions:
So, do you spend $250 on a 1.5-2 year old phone, or do I put away another hundred to two hundred and get the newer generation Nexus or OnePlus 3?
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Question in the singular. I only asked one.
The larger CCD pixels in the sensor do make a difference, I do admit. Especially if using the Google camera app as it is barebones. However, switch the camera app to one with manual controls and that advantage is lost, since it's possible to adjust not only the ISO of the camera, but how long the shutter stays open. If you adjust the ISO to 1600 or more, you improve the sensitivity of the CCD. If you can control the length of time the shutter is opened, more light is let in. Recording more light is the name of the game.
The camera is not a deal breaker. It's a good camera that gets better when coupled with the right software. 4K video is a non-starter to me, i.e. it's irrelevant.
Fingerprint scanners are a security hole, since you can be compelled to unlock your phone without need of a warrant. One of the reasons I DIDN'T spring for a 6P at Christmas 2015 was because of the fingerprint scanner. So, not a deal breaker.
As someone who has used Touchwiz, I'm very familiar with lag. I have yet to see any lag on this device. But not everyone is as fortunate as I am, I guess.
I still would recommend this phone over other Nexus devices. The 1+3 is a tougher sell.

Alright, is the Nexus 6 still worth buying in late 2016/early 2017?

There are a few other threads just like mine, except they're all almost a year old. I come here as a 1.5-year HTC One M7 (yes, the old one) user looking to buy a new, bigger phone with a better battery. Is this worth buying in late 2016/early 2017 for around $200 used? What have your experiences been like with it? Is there a better phone out there for a similar price? I'm not too concerned about size at the moment, as I usually grip my phone with two hands anyways (I am thirteen, however, so I have tiny hands).

This doesn't really answer your question, but I'm still waiting for the "Fire Sales" on the 6P that the 6 had when the 6P came out. Why have the prices not dropped signifiganctly on the 6P yet since the Pixel is out?

More than likely you had the fire sales because Motorola made too many to meet the demand, a demand tempered by bloggers and tech reviewers who simply couldn't deal with the size of the phone. It seemed you couldn't watch or read a review without someone mentioning in a negative manner the size of the Nexus 6.
I wonder if they were simply trying to compensate for their own size issues.

firedroidx said:
There are a few other threads just like mine, except they're all almost a year old. I come here as a 1.5-year HTC One M7 (yes, the old one) user looking to buy a new, bigger phone with a better battery. Is this worth buying in late 2016/early 2017 for around $200 used? What have your experiences been like with it? Is there a better phone out there for a similar price? I'm not too concerned about size at the moment, as I usually grip my phone with two hands anyways (I am thirteen, however, so I have tiny hands).
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I just picked mine up used on Saturday. I also had an M7 and then Zenfone 2. It is still with buying and I also use 2 hands. Nothing to worry about as I use it as a mini tablet as well as a phone.
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I think it's still a worthwhile phone at end of 2016. I just picked one up. upgraded from nexus one. I had a galaxy nexus, but it was kinda pointless without 4g antennas, so I reverted back to n1 temporarily.
If the nexus 5x was a reliable phone on android 7, I would say get the 5x instead of a nexus 6, but from the boot loop issues the 5x has been having, and it's sub-par build quality, I think the nexus 6 is a viable alternative.
It is also worth noting that the nexus 6 was a ~$600 phone when released, while the 5x was ~$300ish, so I think the 6 is a better overall phone. If you look at the teardowns, the nexus 6 does indeed seem to be built better.
sure the nexus 6 may not be faster, is tremendous in the hands, and hard to handle, but I think It'll last me until used pixel's become affordable (~$200 range.) If you do get a nexus 6, I would experiment with cases because it is just to darn thin and tapered to get a good grip. I'm waiting on a few cases myself.
Sure, there are other phones on the market beside the nexus line, but I gravitate toward them because they tend to have long term support and are a favorite among developers
I think it is cool that you're on XDA and 13. Keep at it. I was messing around with Palm PDA's at your age and .prc files. Oh and win95 machines.
enjoy

I've had my N6 for about a year. It's been a very reliable phone. Still worth buying in late 16/ early 17, especially if you can get one in good condition at decent price and plan on flashing custom ROMs. Only cons I can think of are the mediocre camera and relatively dim screen. Love the screen size, dual front speakers, wireless charging and overall build quality.
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The Nexus 6 is a good phone it is just large for me. I still keep it at home as a media device and the speakers are very good, but myself personally it is too large for everyday use and I got sick of the size after 1 year. I just a basic 5x set up as a daily driver, and theme, flash on the 6 that I still have.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
More than likely you had the fire sales because Motorola made too many to meet the demand, a demand tempered by bloggers and tech reviewers who simply couldn't deal with the size of the phone. It seemed you couldn't watch or read a review without someone mentioning in a negative manner the size of the Nexus 6.
I wonder if they were simply trying to compensate for their own size issues.
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Yup. All the "dainty" sausage loving reviewers with tiny hands don't like a big phone. Maybe memories of traumatic experiences dealing with something that was too big for them?
The rest of us with bigger fingers NEED the extra size in order to actually be ABLE to use a touch-only device.

The N6 is the best phone I've ever used. None of my other phones come close. Size, speed, storage, sound, tweakability are all great. Should something happen to my current N6 (perish the thought), I'd be on eBay in an instant finding another. It's that good.
NGOwner

Thanks for all the responses! Looks like I have just another reason to pick up one of these on Swappa. Can't wait to try out some fresh Nougat ROMs when I get it.

I got my N6 a year ago black Friday for $200, and also came from a One M7. Battery life isn't good so keep that in mind. I never get through the day on a charge. The fact that it's a Nexus is amazing for roms. Honestly even stock this phone is still pretty fast. I gotta tell you though, after a year I can't stand how big it is. Using it one handed is really annoying. I was actually looking for something different this black Friday but couldn't find anything compelling. There is an app called fooview that I started using though that has really helped it be a better phone one handed. At sub 200 it's definitely a solid buy

@spizzlo: Your battery life issues are atypical, and probably related to the apps you have installed. For example, the facebook app is really poorly coded, and as a result consumes extraordinary amounts of both memory and battery. Remove it and watch your battery life improve. So you might want to check your device with Better Battery Stats and see which of them is consuming all your battery life.

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@spizzlo: Your battery life issues are atypical, and probably related to the apps you have installed. For example, the facebook app is really poorly coded, and as a result consumes extraordinary amounts of both memory and battery. Remove it and watch your battery life improve. So you might want to check your device with Better Battery Stats and see which of them is consuming all your battery life.
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I use Instagram, which is a battery hog in the background, but I have Greenify Pro with the Xposed GCM function enabled so it's no biggie. I love that I can still get my notifications when it's hibernated. Hopefully the N6 battery does me well after living with the aging one inside my M7.

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The N6 is the best phone I've ever used. None of my other phones come close. Size, speed, storage, sound, tweakability are all great. Should something happen to my current N6 (perish the thought), I'd be on eBay in an instant finding another. It's that good.
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My thoughts exactly!
The N6 is the Best smartphone I have ever had!
Get screen and Great Front Facing Speaker!
Also I do actually like the camera...much better camera than the HTC devices I previously had.
My only complaint is the battery. No matter what I do, it still seems to drain fairly quickly. So I ensure that I keep it charged up as much as possible.
So...yes...the Nexus 6 is worth buying in 2016-2017!
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firedroidx said:
I use Instagram, which is a battery hog in the background, but I have Greenify Pro with the Xposed GCM function enabled so it's no biggie. I love that I can still get my notifications when it's hibernated. Hopefully the N6 battery does me well after living with the aging one inside my M7.
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I've had mine for a year now. I've easily been able to make it through a full day with all kinds of usage, from gaming to simple browsing. You should have no problem, especially if you're using Greenify on your battery hogs.

Beside, the battery life, you should be fine. Get extra chargers
I had mine for 2 years & I am still using it. I can't find a replacement for it yet.
Now that we can expect to get Nougat 7.1.1 on it soon, I am keeping mine until at least Dec 2017 or whenever Google stops support
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firedroidx said:
There are a few other threads just like mine, except they're all almost a year old. I come here as a 1.5-year HTC One M7 (yes, the old one) user looking to buy a new, bigger phone with a better battery. Is this worth buying in late 2016/early 2017 for around $200 used? What have your experiences been like with it? Is there a better phone out there for a similar price? I'm not too concerned about size at the moment, as I usually grip my phone with two hands anyways (I am thirteen, however, so I have tiny hands).
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The N6 isn't totally comparable to the newest flagships, they just have better specs, that said, the N6 was ahead of its time, has pretty good hardware and access to the newest versions of Android. It also has a kickass xda community that cook up great ROMs. Running 7.1 with a good kernel, Viper audio and my phone is much better than most out there waiting for their carrier to give them an old bloatware full update.
I'll be sad to see my N6 go.
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I've had mine since launch. Great phone.. But...
My new OnePlus 3T absolutely smokes it. No comparison.
If you have the money, get something newer.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@spizzlo: Your battery life issues are atypical, and probably related to the apps you have installed. For example, the facebook app is really poorly coded, and as a result consumes extraordinary amounts of both memory and battery. Remove it and watch your battery life improve. So you might want to check your device with Better Battery Stats and see which of them is consuming all your battery life.
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I found the facebook app can be readily tamed by removing a bunch of needless permissions through the privacy manager and setting it up for screen off snoozing with greenify. But you're right that a bad battery experience is atypical if you know how to properly deal with battery issues (rogue apps, wakelock problems, etc.).
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I would buy it again now. I bought it last year for a pretty good deal before the black friday/cyber week sales, and because Amazon gave me a 90-day holiday return window, I was able to "return" it and buy it for $100 cheaper a month later. But after using it for over a year now, I would have probably paid full price for it. At the time my goal was to get a new phone for my Sprint account without having to renew a 2-year contract, so the N6 was the same price as the "Sprint" N6 but had double the memory and was white.
I'm a pretty big person, but I don't have an issue with the size of the N6. It's not so much size as it is width, because most of the new phones are close to being 6" phones, it's just they're taller and not as wide. I don't like those other phones as much because of that and feel they're too tall.
I also don't have an issue with the camera -- it's great! It's nice to be able to leave my bigger dedicated camera at home sometimes knowing I can rely on getting great pics and video with the N6.
I was also looking to get a black friday/cyber monday deal on the 6p (mostly for my son, but possibly for me), but they're still not a good deal. I don't really view the 6p as much of an upgrade to the N6 anyway.

Buy a Pixel 5 now or wait for Pixel 6?

Hey guys,
I wanted your opinion regarding the Pixel 5. How happy are you with the aesthetics of the device? How does it feel on hand and how does it feel in the pocket?
This year I've tried a bunch of phones and I want to switch to something smaller and that has good camera and good battery life. Currently I have a s21 Ultra which is a good overall phone but this thing feels like a brick, it's heavy when you carry it and if you have a good case the phone is even bigger and heavier. Tried a regular S21 but that again was a bit bulky and heavy when used with a good thick case.
I've been reading about the Pixel 6 (all rumors at this point) but it seems like they are going to increase the size in the 6 series. The smallest upcoming Pixel 6 you can get will be 6.3~6.4 inches and even though it will have upgraded cameras and better specs I think I would just avoid buying it because of the size.
What do you recommend? Should I just buy the Pixel 5 now or maybe wait until the 6 series are released and then make a decision ?

Absolutely NOTHING wrong with the Pixel 5. I LOVE mine.
That being said, no XL version. I didn't like that. I came from P2XL. I like bigger screens. I'll probably get the 6XL

xunholyx said:
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with the Pixel 5. I LOVE mine.
That being said, no XL version. I didn't like that. I came from P2XL. I like bigger screens. I'll probably get the 6XL
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Im trying to stay at a maximum screen size of 6". And I want the weight to be reasonable. Another phone that's getting my attention is the asus zenfone 8. Seems like the ergonomic king of all androids powered phones right now. But it's a tough call between the regular supported software of pixel vs Asus.

paul_cherma said:
Hey guys,
I wanted your opinion regarding the Pixel 5. How happy are you with the aesthetics of the device? How does it feel on hand and how does it feel in the pocket?
This year I've tried a bunch of phones and I want to switch to something smaller and that has good camera and good battery life. Currently I have a s21 Ultra which is a good overall phone but this thing feels like a brick, it's heavy when you carry it and if you have a good case the phone is even bigger and heavier. Tried a regular S21 but that again was a bit bulky and heavy when used with a good thick case.
I've been reading about the Pixel 6 (all rumors at this point) but it seems like they are going to increase the size in the 6 series. The smallest upcoming Pixel 6 you can get will be 6.3~6.4 inches and even though it will have upgraded cameras and better specs I think I would just avoid buying it because of the size.
What do you recommend? Should I just buy the Pixel 5 now or maybe wait until the 6 series are released and then make a decision ?
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So I'm someone who shares somewhat similar views / opinions. Just changed from an lg v40 to a pixel 3, very happy with a smaller screen and less weight.
It absolutely is an individual thing, of course. Some constantly use their device, gaming, video's etc etc, and a bigger screen (read heavy) outweighs (punny) other aspects.
But if yer like me, really only use the device as a phone, take good pics occasionally, facebook a little, etc... AND carry it in your pocket always, then size and weight become prominent in the choice.
Seeing as google is going the 'bigger is better' route, I'd say a 3, 4 or 5 is where I'll be for years to come (thanks!! Lineage!). Basically, I just don't do enough screen / face time to justify a larger heavier phone.
But a 5 now? Naaah, it won't be long, with 5a and 6 becoming available, the price will drop. buy then.
cheers

paul_cherma said:
Im trying to stay at a maximum screen size of 6". And I want the weight to be reasonable. Another phone that's getting my attention is the asus zenfone 8. Seems like the ergonomic king of all androids powered phones right now. But it's a tough call between the regular supported software of pixel vs Asus.
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Then you will more than happy with the Pixel 5. It's a great device

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So I'm someone who shares somewhat similar views / opinions. Just changed from an lg v40 to a pixel 3, very happy with a smaller screen and less weight.
It absolutely is an individual thing, of course. Some constantly use their device, gaming, video's etc etc, and a bigger screen (read heavy) outweighs (punny) other aspects.
But if yer like me, really only use the device as a phone, take good pics occasionally, facebook a little, etc... AND carry it in your pocket always, then size and weight become prominent in the choice.
Seeing as google is going the 'bigger is better' route, I'd say a 3, 4 or 5 is where I'll be for years to come (thanks!! Lineage!). Basically, I just don't do enough screen / face time to justify a larger heavier phone.
But a 5 now? Naaah, it won't be long, with 5a and 6 becoming available, the price will drop. buy then.
cheers
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The idea of switching to a smaller phone came to me after I was hiking and traveling with some friends for about 3 weeks and most of them had bought the Iphone Mini. I was surprised by how a tiny phone like that was pretty much on par with my s21U and some other top of the line expensive android phones that some other friends were using. It took good pictures, battery life was good, and even though I had a beast on me (the S21U) when we compared pics, battery life, browsing, app switching, etc, I saw very minimal differences. The damn thing feels like a toy when you hold it but it is such a good device. Now I can not use an Iphone as my daily driver, I don't hate their products, they're just not for me. The main criteria for me has always been
1. it has to be android OS,
2. must be root friendly
3. good battery and good pictures
Carrying the S21U around is kind of a pain in the butt lol. I can certainly use it with one hand as a tall person with big hands but it's so uncomfortable just carrying it around. And for the specs it has I was expecting more out of it... so far it has simply been a good device. I can't say I am impressed or wow-ed by it.
I think I'll wait for the 5a be announced and see it in person before making a decision but I am already 60% against buying it as it seems like they will up the screen size to 6.2 inches. The camera and processor will stay the same pretty much as the pixel 5 -> but it will be cheaper than a Pixel 5 so I'm not sure if that'll be enough for me to consider it. I'm definitely not waiting for the 6 series to be released though, at this point it seems "confirmed" that all the 6 series will be at the 6.3-6.4 screen size and up.

paul_cherma said:
The idea of switching to a smaller phone came to me after I was hiking and traveling with some friends for about 3 weeks and most of them had bought the Iphone Mini. I was surprised by how a tiny phone like that was pretty much on par with my s21U and some other top of the line expensive android phones that some other friends were using. It took good pictures, battery life was good, and even though I had a beast on me (the S21U) when we compared pics, battery life, browsing, app switching, etc, I saw very minimal differences. The damn thing feels like a toy when you hold it but it is such a good device. Now I can not use an Iphone as my daily driver, I don't hate their products, they're just not for me. The main criteria for me has always been
1. it has to be android OS,
2. must be root friendly
3. good battery and good pictures
Carrying the S21U around is kind of a pain in the butt lol. I can certainly use it with one hand as a tall person with big hands but it's so uncomfortable just carrying it around. And for the specs it has I was expecting more out of it... so far it has simply been a good device. I can't say I am impressed or wow-ed by it.
I think I'll wait for the 5a be announced and see it in person before making a decision but I am already 60% against buying it as it seems like they will up the screen size to 6.2 inches. The camera and processor will stay the same pretty much as the pixel 5 -> but it will be cheaper than a Pixel 5 so I'm not sure if that'll be enough for me to consider it. I'm definitely not waiting for the 6 series to be released though, at this point it seems "confirmed" that all the 6 series will be at the 6.3-6.4 screen size and up.
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I can relate, for sure. Have never tried an iPhone but sincerely doubt it would work for me either. I hate the proprietary 'you're forced to do it this way, whether you like it or not'.
Agree, the 5a and 6's are going to be too big. Only reason I'd wait for them to come out is then, the p5 will drop in price. Then I'd get the p5

I really enjoy my pixel 5. Perfect size. I did really like the S20, however, I didn't want to give up root. Also, at the time it said that on Verizon I wouldn't get 5g with the Intl version, but I do believe that I would of gotten it (not that I've seen 5g even once in my area on the Pixel 5... but that's another discussion) As for battery/pictures, I haven't owned a Samsung in recent years, and this being my first Pixel, I am really impressed with the camera. And Battery for me is wonderful. I am not a heavy user, very minimal, not many apps, no social media, no gaming, etc. so my baseline wont be the same as yours, but the Pixel 5 fairs well considering its specs.
I can't imagine using a phone too much larger than the S21. My brother recently upgraded his S20. It's so, darn, heavy. I'd get used to it with time, but going from my P5 with a slim case, to playing with his S21 is difficult. I am considering the Pixel 6/S21/S22/others/ here soon, but if I am content with the P5, I'll be on it for as long as I can make it last..
I agree to wait for the 5a to be released, even the 6 if you can wait it out, as then the deals for a new one, or someone letting go of a lightly used one should be for a good price.

I usually get the latest phone each year but if the P6 is a millimeter over 6" I might have to skip it. The P5 at 5.7" is really the largest I'd like but 6 is max. It just won't fit in my running shorts or my saddle bag and would probably fall out of my pocket in the car. They really need to rethink the larger size or just go the standard/XL route so everyone is happy.

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I can relate, for sure. Have never tried an iPhone but sincerely doubt it would work for me either. I hate the proprietary 'you're forced to do it this way, whether you like it or not'.
Agree, the 5a and 6's are going to be too big. Only reason I'd wait for them to come out is then, the p5 will drop in price. Then I'd get the p5
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how much does google discount the older phone when they release new ones usually? I've never shopped for Pixel phones so I'm not familiar with their strategy. Right now Pixel 5 sells for $699 on their website

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how much does google discount the older phone when they release new ones usually? I've never shopped for Pixel phones so I'm not familiar with their strategy. Right now Pixel 5 sells for $699 on their website
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Not positive but it should be discounted 100 to maybe 150, initially. So think about the cycle of the pixel 4, and where it is now. It was originally 799, but it's at 400 now and a 4a is 350.
Those are much more reasonable prices for the phone, imho. I have a pixel 3 and with lineage available, more than happy to use it until the price drops.
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Pixel 6 is going to be a major jump in terms of design and camera hardware. I would totally wait for it.

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Pixel 6 is going to be a major jump in terms of design and camera hardware. I would totally wait for it.
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And, playing devils advocate here, some would say the 'major jump' in design is a major jump backwards (they will be too big). Camera hardware is changing, that's a good thing always. But it's worth asking yourself; are u unhappy with the pics you get now? I mean, if you're not taking photos professionally, is this a difference (assuming there is one) that would matter to you?
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svetius said:
Pixel 6 is going to be a major jump in terms of design and camera hardware. I would totally wait for it.
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I'd agree with the specs and design improvements, however, the OP didn't really seem that concerned with better this or that. He was concerned about the size and bulkiness of the device, which I am in the same boat. At 5.7" the P5 is simply the right size for a lot of folks. In the 9 months I've had it I've been totally satisfied with everything about it including battery life. Looking at 6.3 is a big difference. Now if they can keep the weight down and perhaps max it at 6.1 well that's a different story. And then there's the price. One caveat is the $699 price now of the P5. That needs to go on sale for $599. Then it's a buy without waiting imo. The next couple of months should be interesting as leaks are released.

It would have been nice if they kept the screen size for one of the 6 series phones to 6.1" maximum. Looks like they are upping that to 6.4". The big screen size alone is keeping me away from wanting to get one. Also Wonder if there will be a huge difference for point and shoot or daytime pictures between the 5 and 6... we'll see when they do the comparisons.

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It would have been nice if they kept the screen size for one of the 6 series phones to 6.1" maximum. Looks like they are upping that to 6.4". The big screen size alone is keeping me away from wanting to get one. Also Wonder if there will be a huge difference for point and shoot or daytime pictures between the 5 and 6... we'll see when they do the comparisons.
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And just like that I get an alert on my news feed that the P5 is out of stock across the board. I wonder what's going on. I'm hoping that there is a P6 and a P6 XL.

bobby janow said:
I'd agree with the specs and design improvements, however, the OP didn't really seem that concerned with better this or that. He was concerned about the size and bulkiness of the device, which I am in the same boat. At 5.7" the P5 is simply the right size for a lot of folks. In the 9 months I've had it I've been totally satisfied with everything about it including battery life. Looking at 6.3 is a big difference. Now if they can keep the weight down and perhaps max it at 6.1 well that's a different story. And then there's the price. One caveat is the $699 price now of the P5. That needs to go on sale for $599. Then it's a buy without waiting imo. The next couple of months should be interesting as leaks are released.
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I'm really hoping that they keep the screen size to a maximum of 6.1. From the leaks so far it seems that they are going for the big screen though. I'm using a s21U now, I like the camera, not exceptional but it's better than good imo. I really like the zoom capabilities of it also, they come in handy if you want to zoom to far away objects. But I'm getting tired of these big screen and heavy phones. It's sad that there's not many Android operated devices that have a good size and good specs and are root friendly.

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It would have been nice if they kept the screen size for one of the 6 series phones to 6.1" maximum. Looks like they are upping that to 6.4". The big screen size alone is keeping me away from wanting to get one. Also Wonder if there will be a huge difference for point and shoot or daytime pictures between the 5 and 6... we'll see when they do the comparisons.
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Agree. Google will no doubt make improvements to the camera ability. Believe I've read the high res zoom will go from 2x to 6x. Great of course. But the closer you zoom in, the steadier you have to be, thus the exposure has to be quick, meaning the ISO has to be high (grain). During a bright sunny day it will probably work well.
Me personally though, I'll stick with my 40x zoom Canon pocket camera, if I'm going out to shoot birds or something. While sure, it would be nice to have a phone with more zoom power... do you need it? how often u gonna use that?
realistically speaking, it's a 'nice to have', but certainly not something I've ever thought I needed.
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An alternative suggestion - get a 4a super cheap for now and see how the 5a and 6 pan out.
I have owned 4a and 5, moving to them from the S20. Both are excellent and while the differences between 4a and 5 might look significant on paper, they are barely noticeable in use. The 4a is quite the bargain.

What I liked:
-Size. Though I personally prefer a 6.2" screen (the OP6 was perfect), having it smaller was actually really nice instead of the giant bricks most phones have become.
-Camera. Even though the hardware isn't the greatest, the software makes the Pixel 5 take some damn fine photos for the price.
-Root!!!
There's some downsides to the Pixel 5 in my opinion.
-Under glass speaker (who in engineering thought this was okay?) This is insanely annoying and I can't fathom how anyone could deal with this, and is the main reason I returned mine.
-Piss poor hardware (it's slow, and noticably so).
-God awful Haptics.
-On mine, sometimes it would actually butt-dial people even though I had a finger print set up. Or it wouldn't answer calls even if I got answer 50 times (this doesn't mean this happens to every one, I firmly believe mine was possessed)
Your mileage may vary, and you may be okay with my gripes, but if it were me, I'd wait for the 6.