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Hello,
It seems that the camera focus made for still opjects, as if I am going to take a picure of friends for example, I have to ask them to stay still for at least 3 seconds!!
What can I do to make it take instant shots as soon as I press the button with no delay of the auto focus..
I emaild HTC, they replied that a representative will look into the matter but they never reply..
Regards
I am not a camera expert but I could explain something for you .
Turn off auto focus just make thing worse. It makes the quality of the picture better. This is why some review websites gave kaiser a thumb up for this auto focus feature.
What you looking for here is shutter speed , not turning off auto focus. The faster the shutter speed, the better pictures you can take ( especially for shaky hand and moving object ). Its so last year that picture of still objects are always better since most of camera out there doesnt have a fast enough shutter speed .
Correct me if I am wrong. I did some good reading about camera on Newegg.com when I was looking to buy a decent camera for my girl .
Check out this thread. You can reduce the time the phone takes between focusing and capturing the image.
Thank you aberz, but the delay is only on the auto focus, its the time that takes [ ] to go from gray [ ] to green [ ]
I have a nokia N95, it has it too, as soon as I click the button, the picture is there with better quality from tytn on the same resolution..
NotATreoFan said:
Check out this thread. You can reduce the time the phone takes between focusing and capturing the image.
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Thank you NotATreoFan, tried it, unfortunately no changes noticed..
The strange thing is that the front camera does not have that delay, it captutures instantly, but of course with very low quality
I will follow up on the thread you mentioned.
ghanem said:
Thank you aberz, but the delay is only on the auto focus, its the time that takes [ ] to go from gray [ ] to green [ ]
I have a nokia N95, it has it too, as soon as I click the button, the picture is there with better quality from tytn on the same resolution..
Thank you NotATreoFan, tried it, unfortunately no changes noticed..
The strange thing is that the front camera does not have that delay, it captutures instantly, but of course with very low quality
I will follow up on the thread you mentioned.
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Front camera does not have the auto focus feature .
Everybody hope their handset come with auto focus camera, just wondering why you want to disable and give up to use it?
Without auto focus , the picture you take will be a blur photo , especially closer items and object.
don't press the camera button. instead push the middle button on the navigation pad just once. the phone will auto focus and immediately take the pic. it's really working out to be the best way to take the pics.
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Everybody hope their handset come with auto focus camera, just wondering why you want to disable and give up to use it?
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Imagine that you want to capture a child smile or lough, you wont be able to ask him to stand still..
Imagine that you went to the zoo and wanted to capture the lion yawn, would you dare to ask him to repat it and stand still
Those are real situations I've been throug
kaluzu said:
don't press the camera button. instead push the middle button on the navigation pad just once. the phone will auto focus and immediately take the pic. it's really working out to be the best way to take the pics.
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Thank you kaluzu, I tried that before posting, I tried also the keep pressing the button, changing to half press, no luck
ghanem said:
Thank you aberz, but the delay is only on the auto focus, its the time that takes [ ] to go from gray [ ] to green [ ]
I have a nokia N95, it has it too, as soon as I click the button, the picture is there with better quality from tytn on the same resolution..
Thank you NotATreoFan, tried it, unfortunately no changes noticed..
The strange thing is that the front camera does not have that delay, it captutures instantly, but of course with very low quality
I will follow up on the thread you mentioned.
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Auto focus = better picture . Auto focus need ... time to focus . I think the quality of the camera affect the time of the auto focus.
Anyway, I use half press mode and it take about 2 secs to get a snap, which is close to my 4 years old Sony cybershot W7 . Half press mode also reduce ( or even eliminate ) the vibration of pushing button , which improve the quality.
To achieve an good quality with instant shot for moving object , I think thats the job for the professional camera. However, I would like to see how things turn out for you.
Kaiser camera wasnt rated good anyway.
aberz said:
However, I would like to see how things turn out for you.
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Thank you aberz, appreciate your concern, I am following up now on the thread NotATreoFan mentioned
For taking better pictures:
1. Hold index finger over camera shutter button
2. Hold thumb over center button on navigation pad
3. Use index finger to half-press and auto focus
4. Use thumb to gently press center button on navigation pad
5. Make sure your lens is clean
6. Try to take the picture in between heart beats. Hard at first but you get used to it.
I used to HATE taking pictures with the tilt, and still carried around my old Sony Ericsson W810i as it's 2mp camera always got the shot I wanted. Took me a while to figure out the above. Hope it helps
ghanem said:
Imagine that you want to capture a child smile or lough, you wont be able to ask him to stand still..
Imagine that you went to the zoo and wanted to capture the lion yawn, would you dare to ask him to repat it and stand still
Those are real situations I've been throug
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Then you should buy a SE K810 with BEST PICTURE instead of kaiser
The Best Picture allow you to shot 9 images at one shoot.
marcatarkon said:
For taking better pictures:
1. Hold index finger over camera shutter button
2. Hold thumb over center button on navigation pad
3. Use index finger to half-press and auto focus
4. Use thumb to gently press center button on navigation pad
5. Make sure your lens is clean
6. Try to take the picture in between heart beats. Hard at first but you get used to it.
I used to HATE taking pictures with the tilt, and still carried around my old Sony Ericsson W810i as it's 2mp camera always got the shot I wanted. Took me a while to figure out the above. Hope it helps
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Thank you for sharing
belon_cfy said:
Then you should buy a SE K810 with BEST PICTURE instead of kaiser
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I am waiting for XPERIA™ X1
This really could be help for me. This 3 second delay is killing me.
ghanem said:
Thank you kaluzu, I tried that before posting, I tried also the keep pressing the button, changing to half press, no luck
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you may want to update the camera software to the latest (search on Navdav) and also add the HTC Album the latest version before trying this again. It works like a charm for me.
kaluzu said:
don't press the camera button. instead push the middle button on the navigation pad just once. the phone will auto focus and immediately take the pic. it's really working out to be the best way to take the pics.
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That works awsome thanks a million.
Ron
mark43 said:
That works awsome thanks a million.
Ron
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Really?? I tried it . It works the same way as pressing the camera button. Still about 2 - 3 secs delay. Tilt camera truly sucks.
the camera needs to auto focus. but this way it does take the snapshot right after it autofocused. indoors, of course, will take longer to autofocus.
since I used this function ALL my pix afre much better.
Listen, nobody says the camera on Tilt is on par with a 10 MP Cybershot.....But the pix it takes in daylight are awesome. maybe you need to clear your lenses, or even crack the cover to remove any obstruction between the internal lens and outside (like I did). THAT really make a difference....
I was wondering if there was any sort of camera driver for download yet, ive been looking all over the site and have yet to find one, and ive looked throughout the internet for one, but Im finding old websites not updated since january....pleeease anybody?
Is this what you are looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587&highlight=camera
that version is still slow videorendering...
Thanks, it seemed to help out alot in brighter areas but the dark places are still slow... its no problem to me ill just use a dig camera if I need a dark pic... thank you =D
A trick I picked up here with the "new" driver was to turn the camera on. After it comes up, press the power button to put the phone in "sleep" mode. Hold your hand over the camera lens, wake up the phone with the power button, wait 5 seconds and see if the frame rate is a little faster. Goofy trick, but it seems to work.
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A trick I picked up here with the "new" driver was to turn the camera on. After it comes up, press the power button to put the phone in "sleep" mode. Hold your hand over the camera lens, wake up the phone with the power button, wait 5 seconds and see if the frame rate is a little faster. Goofy trick, but it seems to work.
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i found this trick a long while ago. it does seem to work but i dont think it has anything to do with the htc-ca or omnia drivers so even if you dont have them installed, it will work.
I'm using the Laurentius26 V10 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416278 ) cooked ROM with the HTCA drivers ( see http://www.htcclassaction.org ) and the camera is performing extremely well. There is no evidence of any lag when there is sufficient light available, it seems to still take a performance hit when it has to compensate.
Rob
ps. that trick that p51d007 suggested is completely bizarre! Even the lag with close up or darkness goes away.
i am using the hyperdragon iiir lite rom with the (recomended) radio 1.65.24.36
and the omnia 3d driver installed in it
and video acceleration is perfect!!
a small improovement i have see also in camera
From my point of view... the camera gets SLOW whenever it has to increase exposure to compensate for the dark areas. The power button somehow fixes te exposure... or disables it.
Point is.. although being 3.0 MP...camera quality is nothing like a 3.0 real photographic camera. So... my question is...
Would picture quality get that worse... if the camera would always shoot with a fixed (lets say 1.0) exposure... and then increase the brightness of the picture via software ?
And to be REALLY bold... and please realize that i'm sugesting with virtually or really NO KNOWLEDGE ... 3D graphics can have its gamma controled... at least in a normal computer... how about showing the camera image on a D3D or OGLES texture... and increasing it "exposure" via gamma control ?
(Am i nuts?)
Yeah that trick works, but the picture is darker and a lot grainier. Also if you point the camera to a bright light source, it "resets" and then when you point at dark areas again, it lags. That trick seems to "initalize" the camera to a dark setting, for lack of a better phrase.
hambola said:
Yeah that trick works, but the picture is darker and a lot grainier. Also if you point the camera to a bright light source, it "resets" and then when you point at dark areas again, it lags. That trick seems to "initalize" the camera to a dark setting, for lack of a better phrase.
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Damn, you're right, it resets when you point it at a bright source...I was all excited for a minute, too...
I wonder if there is a way to make the camera behave that way all the time? I snapped a picture with the trick active and it came out pretty good.
As the title says, what is it? I mean how does the auto function? couldn't find anything about it on XDA or the Owners Manual.
Stock rom, 1.28.401.7, attached a screenshot.
omar302 said:
As the title says, what is it? I mean how does the auto function? couldn't find anything about it on XDA or the Owners Manual.
Stock rom, 1.28.401.7, attached a screenshot.
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I'm guessing that it adjusts the timeout accordingly.
Like if you were to put it down (but face-up) it'll decrease the timeout down to 15 seconds or something like that. Whereas if you're holding the phone normally, it'd be something like one minute.
Probably just smart stay esque feature.
Quick check of camera to see if your looking at the phone. Not like this is a Samsung thing, there are apps in the play store that do this.
Yeah it's screen time out so if you set it for 1 minute the screen will stay on for 1 minute then shut down
Yeah its like smart stay, try waving your hand in front of the phone and not touch the phone, it wont sleep. Dont work very well as sometimes I lie phone down for a sec but as there is no movement it sleeps quickly.
omar302 said:
As the title says, what is it? I mean how does the auto function? couldn't find anything about it on XDA or the Owners Manual.
Stock rom, 1.28.401.7, attached a screenshot.
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Nice. I keep wondering why HTC doesn't advertise some of these features - Samsung keeps touting them but even though HTC has something similar, sometimes better and sometimes not, it isn't mentioned anywhere. They really need to up their marketing efforts.
Nekromantik said:
Yeah its like smart stay, try waving your hand in front of the phone and not touch the phone, it wont sleep. Dont work very well as sometimes I lie phone down for a sec but as there is no movement it sleeps quickly.
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are you sure or are you just trying to get people to wave there hands around like mad men
theres nothing on the web about that its just plain old screen off after how long you set it for:laugh:
jaythenut said:
are you sure or are you just trying to get people to wave there hands around like mad men
theres nothing on the web about that its just plain old screen off after how long you set it for:laugh:
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It is autosleep OR a time. So it's definitely not 1 minute. Will have to try this
I sent the question to HTC & today got this lame answer:
Please note that you can use the sleep mode in order to put the device in standby mode when you are not using the screen for a long time the screen will go in sleep mode " Standby" automatically
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After doing some testing, I have found the following pattern with "Auto sleep":
If the device is held vertical (holding the phone up) or at an angle, in other words, you are actually looking at the screen; the display will sleep in about 1 minute of not touching the display.
If the device, after use, is put on a table (horizontally), the display will sleep in about 15 seconds.
So it seems that "Auto sleep" uses the gyro sensor, not the Camera.
Sounds similar to Screeble. ...a must-have app IMO.
I think auto sleep uses the camera and the proximity sensor to determine if you're looking at the phone, because for down reason it doesn't work in a completely dark environment like a bedroom at night, even though I was looking at the phone dead on..... It's an interesting feature nonetheless
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Sounds similar to Screeble. ...a must-have app IMO.
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No must-have anymore... with this auto sleep function built in. It's in HTC One X too with the 4.2.2 update.
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ryanaathome said:
I think auto sleep uses the camera and the proximity sensor to determine if you're looking at the phone, because for down reason it doesn't work in a completely dark environment like a bedroom at night, even though I was looking at the phone dead on..... It's an interesting feature nonetheless
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As stated before, it's probably using sensors to increase time-out, not to disable time-out entirely, like smart-stay does, probably using less energy then smart-stay.
webpatrick said:
No must-have anymore... with this auto sleep function built in. It's in HTC One X too with the 4.2.2 update.
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Will give it a try since it is one less app on the phone... I like that I could set up the angle for which it is activated both for portrait and landscape with Screeble. I don't control anything with the sleep function. Also, I get the impression the phone will still shut off at some point...doesn't with Screeble.
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I was intrigued to know the answer myself. Not being able to find the answer, I tried the following on my phone:
I placed the phone horizontally on a table and left it there without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. It took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I placed the phone at an angle (approximately 45 degrees) and left it still without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. Again, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I grabbed the phone and moved it constantly without touching the screen. I keep doing this for over 2 minutes and the screen never timed out. I got bored, so I put the phone down and from that moment, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out. I tried this at different angles and I realized the angle doesn't really matter as long as the phone is in motion.
This made me to conclude the phone uses the the gyroscope when "auto sleep" is selected to determine when to turn off the screen.
I might be wrong but you can try this yourself. I hope it helps!
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I was intrigued to know the answer myself. Not being able to find the answer, I tried the following on my phone:
I placed the phone horizontally on a table and left it there without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. It took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I placed the phone at an angle (approximately 45 degrees) and left it still without touching the screen or moving it until the screen turned off. Again, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out.
I grabbed the phone and moved it constantly without touching the screen. I keep doing this for over 2 minutes and the screen never timed out. I got bored, so I put the phone down and from that moment, it took 1 minute for the screen to time out. I tried this at different angles and I realized the angle doesn't really matter as long as the phone is in motion.
This made me to conclude the phone uses the the gyroscope when "auto sleep" is selected to determine when to turn off the screen.
I might be wrong but you can try this yourself. I hope it helps!
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What rom version are you running? What you explained would explain why the phone does not sleep when I put it down in the car's cupholder, as long as the car is moving the phone would vibrate/shake & hence does not turn off the display. This is with the Android 4.3 updates (leaks & official 3.22 developer edition).
Previously, Android 4.1 & 4.2 roms, if the device was held vertical (holding the phone up) or at an angle, in other words, display would sleep in about 1 minute of not touching the display. If the device, after use, was put on a table (horizontally), the display would sleep in about 15 seconds.
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What rom version are you running? What you explained would explain why the phone does not sleep when I put it down in the car's cupholder, as long as the car is moving the phone would vibrate/shake & hence does not turn off the display. This is with the Android 4.3 updates (leaks & official 3.22 developer edition).
Previously, Android 4.1 & 4.2 roms, if the device was held vertical (holding the phone up) or at an angle, in other words, display would sleep in about 1 minute of not touching the display. If the device, after use, was put on a table (horizontally), the display would sleep in about 15 seconds.
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I'm using CleanRom 6 with Android 4.3. Now that you mention it, I realize I hadn't noticed this on 4.1 and 4.2. I use Pandora all the time. I started wondering when my phone would stay up the whole time I was driving. I never had this issue with 4.1 and 4.2. Good to know!
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I'm using CleanRom 6 with Android 4.3. Now that you mention it, I realize I hadn't noticed this on 4.1 and 4.2. I use Pandora all the time. I started wondering when my phone would stay up the whole time I was driving. I never had this issue with 4.1 and 4.2. Good to know!
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Incertcoin (on SVN R111) now has the auto sleep working like before, 1 minute if held upright, or 15 seconds if placed on a table. I think @baadnewz used the "SmartDim.apk" from an older rom that before auto sleep changed .
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Incertcoin (on SVN R111) now has the auto sleep working like before, 1 minute if held upright, or 15 seconds if placed on a table. I think @baadnewz used the "SmartDim.apk" from an older rom that before auto sleep changed .
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yes i used the 4.2.2 base one because i didn't have time to properly debug the current one and fix, but so far using the old one doesn't break anything it just fixes the issue. credits are due to @yxtl he had the issue and stress him enough to make trial and error .
I believe it uses the gyro/motion sensors to adjust the timeout...if I have my HTC One docked in my car with auto sleep enabled, it will never time out the screen, unless I come to a light and stop...but the motion of the car actually on the road is enough to keep it alive.
Cheers
j
I wish HTC provided some kind of documentation for this...
I like my nexus 6 camera's quality of photos but am a bit frustrated with the time it takes to start up, especially from the lock screen. Part of the problem for me is that sliding left from the kick screen often doesn't work. It offers to unlock instead. Sometimes after trying and failing to go straight to camera a couple of times, when I eventually unlock and then try to start the camera it informs me that the camera has crashed. I use Chroma now but had the issue while on stock. I predominantly use HDR+ mode (I leave it on all the time) Any solutions anyone?
Settings - Display - Screen Attention - enabled
Does this feature even truly work? I have it enabled and I'll be reading a story on a web page and not touch my phone or anything and the screen still fades out and turns off after one minute.
I thought the whole point of this option was the phone will know that you're looking at the screen, and no need to have to slightly tap or move the screen up and down to keep the display from turning off?
It's never seem to work for me I'm a Pixel 4 XL
Zorachus said:
Settings - Display - Screen Attention - enabled
Does this feature even truly work? I have it enabled and I'll be reading a story on a web page and not touch my phone or anything and the screen still fades out and turns off after one minute.
I thought the whole point of this option was the phone will know that you're looking at the screen, and no need to have to slightly tap or move the screen up and down to keep the display from turning off?
It's never seem to work for me I'm a Pixel 4 XL
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There was a thread on this just recently. I read one of the comments that it appears to work when I hand and not on a table. Were you holding your phone?
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
To anyone actually having issues with this feature, I have to ask... can your phone's selfie cam see you enough to actually tell there's a face looking at it? If you're barely in-view, it won't be enough as I assume it is using the infrared camera that has a more narrow view. If it can't see you enough, it won't work.
If your timeout is 60s, it will check at seconds 56 through 60; if it can't see you, it dims and turns off if you don't physically touch it. Once it dims, the camera is off and you must touch it to prevent locking.