Hole in Camera - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone else have a small hole that looks like a chip in the camera flash ring, top right? I've seen some press pictures without them and some that looks like it might be there. If it is, is it a microphone?

Yup. Microphone.

Thanks! That is what I thought since I've been careful with my precious. Then someone pointed it out to me and I freaked out a little.
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It's a noise canceling microphone if I recall correctly.

Yes. I have one too. Seems part of the design.

They could have put it in the damn center

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[Q] HTC One low mic sound

Hi,
While calling people there have been several complaints that my voice is very low while on the phone has anyone else experienced this?
Thanks
Yes, a little bit, then I carry on talking and the other party manages to cope. I was assuming my case may play a little part in the problem, even though there is a small pin hole where the mic is.
My case is the official HTC One flip case... You?
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wyase9 said:
Yes, a little bit, then I carry on talking and the other party manages to cope. I was assuming my case may play a little part in the problem, even though there is a small pin hole where the mic is.
My case is the official HTC One flip case... You?
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Yes it's the same flip case. hmmm. I wonder if there is a way of improving it.
funny I dont get this even though the case covers the mic at the bottom of the phone.
I mentioned on another thread that there is a fault with every double dip flip case. The mic hole doesn't line up with the mic properly!
r89HTC said:
funny I dont get this even though the case covers the mic at the bottom of the phone.
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A little off topic... Thought I would ask Are you the same guy with the name R89SONY? lol
jonstatt said:
I mentioned on another thread that there is a fault with every double dip flip case. The mic hole doesn't line up with the mic properly!
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Dam. Might have to buy a new case.
The thing is I can see that the hole perfectly lines up with the hole from what I can see.
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funny I dont get this even though the case covers the mic at the bottom of the phone.
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Which case you guys are talking about? The plastic cover which have 3 parts? Or the black flip case wich can let the phone stand up in landscape mode?
cobbcobbdavid said:
Which case you guys are talking about? The plastic cover which have 3 parts? Or the black flip case wich can let the phone stand up in landscape mode?
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The case I am referring to with the issues is the flip case and NOT the one with three parts.
But im not even using a case right now, but im also getting people saying they can't hear me that good, sounds great on my end though.
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Try to record your own voice with inbuilt recorder app than play and see. Check if you have case which covering Mic? Try to see if any residuel trap inside the mic hole try to use vaccume cleaner to suck from both Mic. Or try to talk with customer service number and talk very softly and ask if operator can hear your voice properly?, restart the phone and do the same and check if anything improved? Try to record your voice using camera and check. Hope this all step help
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I'm having the same problem, I have narrowed it down to being the bottom mic, When in a call, using speaker phone the back mic is on and people can hear me. When headphones are in again, people can hear me, again though the back mic. But when I take out the headphones, and turn speaker off, people can't hear me, unless I'm talking directly into the bottom mic, but words get cut short. Hearing what it sounds like I'm thinking it's noise canalization going on..
tyrant1790 said:
I'm having the same problem, I have narrowed it down to being the bottom mic, When in a call, using speaker phone the back mic is on and people can hear me. When headphones are in again, people can hear me, again though the back mic. But when I take out the headphones, and turn speaker off, people can't hear me, unless I'm talking directly into the bottom mic, but words get cut short. Hearing what it sounds like I'm thinking it's noise canalization going on..
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Having the same exact problem. Using the voice recording app - the volume of a recording using the bottom mic is woefully low compared to using a headset to record.
When using the speaker to answer calls - doesn't exibit this behavior as bad due to the other external mic.
Everyone that is calling me is complaining that they can barely hear me and I think it has nothing to do with the carrier, but all to do with the phone.
My partner's phone is also doing this. Every time she answers a call the other person can't hear her and she almost has to yell. She does have the HTC Genuine case but I've tested calls without this on and still the same thing.
It is the Silver 32GB HTC One ordered through Handtec.
I guess you're talking about the official case which can hold up the phone like the case comes with GSIII ?
I saw two thread complaining the same issue in another forum. However, I have a similar case (but not THIS case) and don't have this problem.
why put on case on HTC One? geez
(Don't mean to troll)
bad mic issue
mr_sock said:
why put on case on HTC One? geez
(Don't mean to troll)
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e: it was a noise cancellation + hole blockage deal for me. seems alright now
I just tested mine and I can hear myself loud and clear.
people I call tell me it's like I am sitting next to them when I call
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I have had other people tell me they can hear me, and I would move the phone and then they would say I'm perfectly clear.
I'm talking moving it a couple inches farther from my mouth. But then speakerphone works fine. I happen to believe it's cancellation taking us out as well.

Rattling / ticking noise from back of HTC One

Has anyone else encountered a rattling and/or ticking noise when they place their HTC One onto a firm surface (e.g. wooden table)?
It's quite easy to recreate by tapping the back of the phone - on the top half, near the camera - with your knuckle.
Possible causes: autofocus module, OIS, sim tray
I'd be very grateful to find out if anyone else has experienced the same, as I'm trying to work out whether it's just my phone or if it's normal!
Thank you!
It's the camera module as always, like u said autofocus module and there is a mechanical gyroscope element in the camera, your device is normal
Don't OCD
Yep, same problem here
trister67 said:
Has anyone else encountered a rattling and/or ticking noise when they place their HTC One onto a firm surface (e.g. wooden table)?
It's quite easy to recreate by tapping the back of the phone - on the top half, near the camera - with your knuckle.
Possible causes: autofocus module, OIS, sim tray
I'd be very grateful to find out if anyone else has experienced the same, as I'm trying to work out whether it's just my phone or if it's normal!
Thank you!
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I have the same rattle coming from the camera lens area. Easy to hear if you tap the top back edge of the phone. Seriously rattles hard when the phone vibrates, which if it is the focus I imagine can't be good for it. It also makes it sound a bit cheap with the rattle on vibrate as it's easily noticeable.
I was tossing and turning whether I should exchange it after setting the phone up for 2 days but looking around forums it seems like a common problem not limited to the HTC One. Great phone otherwise.
SomethingTwisted said:
I have the same rattle coming from the camera lens area. Easy to hear if you tap the top back edge of the phone. Seriously rattles hard when the phone vibrates, which if it is the focus I imagine can't be good for it. It also makes it sound a bit cheap with the rattle on vibrate as it's easily noticeable.
I was tossing and turning whether I should exchange it after setting the phone up for 2 days but looking around forums it seems like a common problem not limited to the HTC One. Great phone otherwise.
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Mine does the same. Its the only issue I have with this phone, otherwise its an amazing phone. I have two friends in work with the same phone so I'm going ot see if they have the same issue too. Seems its on all of them so far so I wont do anything about it until I hear of a repair down the line.
Chimo
Every phone I've had in past 3yrs has some kind of rattle, just don't shake it
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pifsworld said:
Every phone I've had in past 3yrs has some kind of rattle, just don't shake it
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same here... a lot of phones have it. very annoying. My new htc one has it... not sure if i should exchange.. they might look at me like im crazy and tell them why i want to exchange
Every phone will rattle due to the auto focus. This is brought up every year and is a non issue .
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ste1164 said:
Every phone will rattle due to the auto focus. This is brought up every year and is a non issue .
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ohh so every htc one will have this tick, or rattle anyway?
Nickslife89 said:
ohh so every htc one will have this tick, or rattle anyway?
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Not just every HTC, every phone.
My htc one hasn't really got any rattle but my iPhone rattles like a child's rattle and so did my nexus4. But like you say nothing to worry about
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What is This Hole for?

What exactly is the hole on the bottom right if the device (facing from the front) next to the S Pen for? Some say it's a third microphone and others say it's a hydrometer. Which is it?
Microphone.
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Face_Plant said:
What exactly is the hole on the bottom right if the device (facing from the front) next to the S Pen for? Some say it's a third microphone and others say it's a hydrometer. Which is it?
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A hydrometer as a feature on a phone. That would be a new one... It would certainly come in handy in the lab.
Before I got this phone I watched lots of review videos to make sure I really wanted it. Most of them said it was a microphone, but one of them said it was a hydrometer or something like that. I just wanted to clear up what it was.
Why exactly does this phone need three microphones? I realize one is for noise cancelation, one is for picking up your voice, but what is the third one for?
This phone actually has one on top and bottom. This hole you are talking about is for noise cancelation.
The 2 mics (top and bottom) are for one of the features of the voice recorder to pic up voices from both sides. Say... In an interview.
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Makes sense. Thanks!

Is there a covering of some kind over the microphone, out of the box?

This is maybe a weird question, but... I've been having some microphone problems - people can't hear me, etc. Seems not uncommon for this phone.
In looking at the microphones (front and back), it looks like there is some kind of coating or covering over them - instead of just a black hole into the phone, there's... well, I don't know, something else on top. To the naked eye it almost seems to match the color of the phone, but the hole is super tiny, and the color of the blue/silvery one is not particularly distinct.
Can anyone else see something similar on their X4? I'm trying to see if it's something that is supposed to be there (like part of the waterproofing or something), or if it's pocket gunk and I can try to clear it out. I'd appreciate any confirmation either way...
dmahon said:
This is maybe a weird question, but... I've been having some microphone problems - people can't hear me, etc. Seems not uncommon for this phone.
In looking at the microphones (front and back), it looks like there is some kind of coating or covering over them - instead of just a black hole into the phone, there's... well, I don't know, something else on top. To the naked eye it almost seems to match the color of the phone, but the hole is super tiny, and the color of the blue/silvery one is not particularly distinct.
Can anyone else see something similar on their X4? I'm trying to see if it's something that is supposed to be there (like part of the waterproofing or something), or if it's pocket gunk and I can try to clear it out. I'd appreciate any confirmation either way...
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Yep. Similar issue here. Sometimes on a call the other end just can't hear me. It seems hit or miss but happens every once in a while.
I've RMA the phone even but it just seems like a bug particular to this model.
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Is that "cover" you are seeing kpart of the ip 68 waterproofing?
Hotrodanimal said:
Is that "cover" you are seeing kpart of the ip 68 waterproofing?
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That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out - I don't want to remove something that's part of the phone, but I don't have another phone to compare it to, to see if it's supposed to be there. I also don't want to RMA the phone only to find out that I had pocket lint packed in the microphone.
I just bought an x4 last Friday, as far as i can tell there does seem to be what appears like some sort of cloth inside that little tiny mic hole. However i am blind in one eye and cant see out ta other. even with the three different magnifying glasses i have at my disposal. and the camera on my wife's g5+ Might I suggest looking closely at an image of the screen glue/gasket available from Ifixit who is officially working with Motorola these days
edit: also i have noticed in the short time i have had with this device, there is definitely a good and bad way of holding it as a headset, while on speaker phone it dont seem to matter, you may want to experiment a bit with how you are using /holding it. .........taken out of context that last bit sound dirty or is it just me?
Great advice on the fixit. I found a video that shows the screen being replaced and they stick a covering over the mic hole (though no comments about what it is), and the ifixit site has a good image of the part with the original cover. Looks like it's a call to moto... Thanks for the help!
dmahon said:
Great advice on the fixit. I found a video that shows the screen being replaced and they stick a covering over the mic hole (though no comments about what it is), and the ifixit site has a good image of the part with the original cover. Looks like it's a call to moto... Thanks for the help!
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No problem, Glad i could help

Poking the sim card tool in the wrong hole

So when activating the phone, I foolishly followed the Verizon tech's advice to poke the sim tool in both holes in the top. Doing my research post-activation, I see that I poked the tool into the mic.
Likely damage? There are two mics, but the one on top surely has a slightly different purpose. How can I verify if I did any damage?
LOL - I see a ton of posts on this site and reddit with people that have done the same thing. Still would love to know what the top mic is for and ideas for testing for damage.
Likely candidates for damage are "waterproofing", the mic itself, fabric, etc.
If my eyesight and the light were better I'd have noticed the outline of the tray, but couldn't see it. I should know better than to listen to a phone tech for advice like that.
mseifert said:
LOL - I see a ton of posts on this site and reddit with people that have done the same thing. Still would love to know what the top mic is for and ideas for testing for damage.
Likely candidates for damage are "waterproofing", the mic itself, fabric, etc.
If my eyesight and the light were better I'd have noticed the outline of the tray, but couldn't see it. I should know better than to listen to a phone tech for advice like that.
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Noise cancelation, most likely. As to testing for damage, that may prove difficult.
Mostly, those mics aren't directly behind the hole in the frame. They're mounted on top of the PCB and a 90° plastic tube is glued on them to prevent dust, sand and poking derps to damage the microphones. I don't know how Samsung did this in the S10 series.
Testing noise reduction microphones isn't possible directly, just when in use. They're not used by Android, they're used by the actual sound driver and can't be controlled directly via the OS.
Jerryrigeverything did a video on this (in a video he talked about it not a full video on it) the phone is designed for people who do this and it doesn't have any effect. The top mic is probably used for both noise canceling and when you are in a loud environment and have your hand covering the bottom of your phone (like a concert)
If it was my phone and I had done this specifically at the direction of a Verizon representative and it could be verified phone was damaged as a result, I would be trying to get them to replace phone. A tech uninformed enough to suggest a stupid move like this will probably lie and say they never instructed you to do this. Maybe poking tech in wrong hole would be fitting revenge.
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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If it was my phone and I had done this specifically at the direction of a Verizon representative and it could be verified phone was damaged as a result, I would be trying to get them to replace phone. A tech uninformed enough to suggest a stupid move like this will probably lie and say they never instructed you to do this. Maybe poking tech in wrong hole would be fitting revenge.
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If Verizon had actually sold me the phone, I'd consider it. But since I bought it directly from Samsung (it was a $300 off deal!) I don't believe I'd end up with a replacement. The first thing I have to get over is feeling so stupid. I had read something somewhere about dual sim slots - probably on some future phone - and because of the symmetry thought that there were two of them.
Zmantech said:
Jerryrigeverything did a video on this (in a video he talked about it not a full video on it) the phone is designed for people who do this and it doesn't have any effect. The top mic is probably used for both noise canceling and when you are in a loud environment and have your hand covering the bottom of your phone (like a concert)
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It makes sense they would design the phone to prevent such a common mistake. Why design two identical holes in the top where one opens the tray and one destroys a mic? Reminds me of a Dilbert strip. Thanks for the assurance. It helps ease that worried feel.
Player04 said:
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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hilarious
Simple, just use the built in voice recorder in interview mode.
Did the same thing the very next second I unboxed it...it seems to me there is no damage...but I cant verify it....thinking of it, I probably haven't shot a single video from this phone since the time I got it (its launch)
Player04 said:
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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I have never seen a better reply on XDA ever. That's funny.
Wrong hole compilation
Uhh
Wow, this is why there are 2 mics, one on bottom, one on top...It is simply for STEREO sound during video recording.
I did this on the bottom hole ?
But seriously I worry now about waterproof. I tested the mic by recording a video in landscape talking in stereo in both mics and playback sounded fine.
Nope. The top microphone is for noise cancellation during a phone conversation on speaker. Your other party will hear a lot of uncancelled background noise.
Ejector tool cannot damage the mic
mseifert said:
So when activating the phone, I foolishly followed the Verizon tech's advice to poke the sim tool in both holes in the top. Doing my research post-activation, I see that I poked the tool into the mic.
Likely damage? There are two mics, but the one on top surely has a slightly different purpose. How can I verify if I did any damage?
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YouTube at about 3:52 into the video
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
This answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
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YouTube at about 3:52 into the video
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
This answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
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Probably toasted the water protection though.
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Probably toasted the water protection though.
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Nope... Watch the video... No waterproofing damage either...
So I did the same thing too!
While distracted, I used a sewing needle to try to open the sim card port and accidentally jammed it in the hole by the charging port!
Whoops!
So checking out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzmFPoZbCA&feature=youtu.be&t=293
It looks like I ran into a metal box looking thing on the mother board (I think that is what I was pressing depressingly firmly into trying to get the sim tray to open.) . IO think that is the mic chip, but not the opening? So did I bump that, but not damage waterproofing and not damage the mic?
I just do not know what I was stressing and if I should worry. I was using a sharp needle, but I do not think i punctured anything!

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