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I've heard so many mixed perspectives.
The way I see it, S-OLED should be the best in the bunch.
Followed by OLED and then TFT..
I've heard about the nexus display looking "unnatural" from engadget, whatever that means..
Some people are saying that the upcoming sprint evo 4g has a brighter and simply better (4.3") screen.
Apart from the size, the screen technology is just TFT.
In the computer LCD world, i have heard more bad than good about TFT, so what's the deal?
Right now I have a 24" 1080p TFT LCD Monitor, and I think it's beautiful.
I haven't had much to compare it to though.
It's not the greatest screen I've seen, but it's definitely nice.
I have both an HD2 and a Nexus One. The HD2 has a 4.3" TFT display and looks gorgeous. It doesn't have a very defined pixel grid look that you can see if you stare at your Nexus One up close, so it looks more blended.
On the flip side, the Nexus One's vibrancy is hands down better. While watching movies on the HD2, I loved the size of the image, but to be honest, I prefer the color of the Nexus One's screen.
Outside in the sunlight, the HD2 wins. It still gets horrible glare, but no where near as bad as the Nexus One.
With all of that being said, I prefer the Nexus One's screen. Not going to talk about the size differences and their pros and cons, because that's a separate subject altogether. I'm mostly indoors for my job, and being a graphics designer, I enjoy the contrast that the OLED screen can deliver. It's not exactly color accurate, but since this is a phone and not being used as a design device, it doesn't matter...it looks gorgeous. So long as people don't appear as orange aliens, I enjoy the contrast. (Go stare at some of the TVs on display in major retail stores...they jack the contrast up to ridiculous levels to try to wow the viewer, but make things look downright stupid)
I see, that's pretty much like I expected.
The OLED displays will have a more pixel grid display because each pixel is actually a tiny LED. For me that's fine, as long as its not blatant.
So then the best choice would probably be AMOLED that's good in sunlight aka super amoled.
Have you tried playing with the brightness in the sunlight?
I haven't actually experienced an amoled screen yet, but i would think that if you turned the brightness up to max it would like quite okay in the sun.
At least that's how my G1 (TFT LCD) was.
Thanks for the input btw!
From the start I could not understand the positive voices for the AMOLED display. I had a Galaxy and I hated it. Now I have the Nexus and I hate the UNNATURAL colours. They are ghastly! If I had the choice between a Nexus with TFT or AMOLED screen I would certainly pick a TFT.
azalex86 said:
I have both an HD2 and a Nexus One. The HD2 has a 4.3" TFT display and looks gorgeous. It doesn't have a very defined pixel grid look that you can see if you stare at your Nexus One up close, so it looks more blended.
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isnt the supersonics screen a little brighter and more vibrant than the hd2? it sure seemed soo in the pictures and videos i saw
I have the two available high-end android devices - the Milestone (GSM version of the Droid, though with non-unlockable bootloader :-( ) and the Nexus One.
The 'stone has a 854x480 TFT, and the N1 has an 800x480 AMOLED.
Inside, the N1 screen wins - it is incredibly bright, less battery hungry, and has notably better contrast. The Milestone is good, but the N1 is better.
Another N1 advantage is that, even though both screens are 3.7 inches, the milestone is taller and narrower in portrait mode, making the portrait-mode keyboard harder to use for those of us with freakishly-large hands.
Outside, however, it just isn't even close. The Milestone is the best color screen I've ever seen on a large screen phone under bright light. It is absolutely usable in bright sunlight - you can take photos, check out a youtube video, read your RSS feeds, tweets, maps, whatever with absolutely no problem at all. The N1 is almost unusable in direct sunlight - there is just too much glare from the substrate and touch layers. And if you are also wearing sunglasses, forget it, you can't see a thing. Even an iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch (3rd gen) are mush less readable in bright conditions than the Milestone.
Samsung's new S-AMOLED is meant to bond the touch layer into the AMOLED surface directly, taking out a glare / difraction / etc. layer, and making the screen good in bright light. I have my doubts that it will be as good as a strong TFT in those conditions, but we'll see. It will certainly be thinner, better indoors and less power hungry
I don't have yet a N1 but I had the samsung Jet back in fall ,it had an amoled screen. It was quite good under sunlight,colors are washed out but you can clearly read SMS text or use the menu.
Now playing games in summer at the beach at 12am...forget about it and try take spy pics of string gurls with your 5mp
topdnbass said:
I see, that's pretty much like I expected.
The OLED displays will have a more pixel grid display because each pixel is actually a tiny LED. For me that's fine, as long as its not blatant.
So then the best choice would probably be AMOLED that's good in sunlight aka super amoled.
Have you tried playing with the brightness in the sunlight?
I haven't actually experienced an amoled screen yet, but i would think that if you turned the brightness up to max it would like quite okay in the sun.
At least that's how my G1 (TFT LCD) was.
Thanks for the input btw!
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Yeah, even with the Nexus One set to 100%, the readability is around the HD2 with 50-60% brightness outside. Thankfully it is only a problem in direct sunlight.
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isnt the supersonics screen a little brighter and more vibrant than the hd2? it sure seemed soo in the pictures and videos i saw
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I believe they are the same screen in both devices, but could be wrong. We'll have to wait until they can do a proper side by side with the exact same lightness settings.
A 4.3" Super AMOLED screen would be nice. I would never buy a phone with a bigger display than that, because it would become uncomfortable to use, and at that point, you might as well just buy a tablet.
Settembrini said:
From the start I could not understand the positive voices for the AMOLED display. I had a Galaxy and I hated it. Now I have the Nexus and I hate the UNNATURAL colours. They are ghastly! If I had the choice between a Nexus with TFT or AMOLED screen I would certainly pick a TFT.
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I would suggest you have a screen that is defective if it has really noticeable colour deviations.
Obviously it's not a properly colour calibrated display, but everything looks perfectly natural on mine (skin tones etc), with no significant over saturation or hue shifts.
yeah, I'm a big outdoor guy and not looking forward to dealing with this screen outdoors....sucks.
Whatever happened to transflective technology...loved that on my old tilt.
Guys, aren't there screen cover/protectors that deflect or whatever and that make the screen readable in sunlight?
thanks
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yeah, I'm a big outdoor guy and not looking forward to dealing with this screen outdoors....sucks.
Whatever happened to transflective technology...loved that on my old tilt.
Guys, aren't there screen cover/protectors that deflect or whatever and that make the screen readable in sunlight?
thanks
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There are anti-glare protectors that help eliminate some of the glare by dispursing it better, but even then it's still pretty bad. The main issue is due to having no backlight like a TFT.
GlenH said:
I would suggest you have a screen that is defective if it has really noticeable colour deviations.
Obviously it's not a properly colour calibrated display, but everything looks perfectly natural on mine (skin tones etc), with no significant over saturation or hue shifts.
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No, there is nothing wrong with the colour calibration. Girlfriend has also got a Nexus and I have seen others and even on photos here on the internet you can see the unnatural colours of the screen.
Have a look at the first post where you can find the question, if it were true that the colours are unnatural referring to Engadget. And yes, the colours are unnatural. I like the Nexus, do not get me wrong, but I do not like the colours of AMOLED screens. They are awful.
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yeah, I'm a big outdoor guy and not looking forward to dealing with this screen outdoors....sucks.
Whatever happened to transflective technology...loved that on my old tilt.
Guys, aren't there screen cover/protectors that deflect or whatever and that make the screen readable in sunlight?
thanks
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There are definitely protectors that do that, but I don't like the feel of anything but glass on a touch screen.. That's just me though.
Hey I noticed in your sig that you have an iphone and nexus, how would you compare the two? The screen and everything else (you should make another thread for that though).
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Yeah, even with the Nexus One set to 100%, the readability is around the HD2 with 50-60% brightness outside. Thankfully it is only a problem in direct sunlight.
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Damn that's pretty bad, cause with the TFT on my G1 I always had to turn it up to max to get a decent display.
So assuming the HD2 is similar (same technology), then AMOLED must be pretty bad in sunlight.
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I don't have yet a N1 but I had the samsung Jet back in fall ,it had an amoled screen. It was quite good under sunlight,colors are washed out but you can clearly read SMS text or use the menu.
Now playing games in summer at the beach at 12am...forget about it and try take spy pics of string gurls with your 5mp
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Lol, spy pics.
big_adventure said:
I have the two available high-end android devices - the Milestone (GSM version of the Droid, though with non-unlockable bootloader :-( ) and the Nexus One.
The 'stone has a 854x480 TFT, and the N1 has an 800x480 AMOLED.
Inside, the N1 screen wins - it is incredibly bright, less battery hungry, and has notably better contrast. The Milestone is good, but the N1 is better.
Another N1 advantage is that, even though both screens are 3.7 inches, the milestone is taller and narrower in portrait mode, making the portrait-mode keyboard harder to use for those of us with freakishly-large hands.
Outside, however, it just isn't even close. The Milestone is the best color screen I've ever seen on a large screen phone under bright light. It is absolutely usable in bright sunlight - you can take photos, check out a youtube video, read your RSS feeds, tweets, maps, whatever with absolutely no problem at all. The N1 is almost unusable in direct sunlight - there is just too much glare from the substrate and touch layers. And if you are also wearing sunglasses, forget it, you can't see a thing. Even an iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch (3rd gen) are mush less readable in bright conditions than the Milestone.
Samsung's new S-AMOLED is meant to bond the touch layer into the AMOLED surface directly, taking out a glare / difraction / etc. layer, and making the screen good in bright light. I have my doubts that it will be as good as a strong TFT in those conditions, but we'll see. It will certainly be thinner, better indoors and less power hungry
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I know the AMOLED's are pretty great indoors, but when you say incredibly bright... If viewing late at night in bed for example, is it too bright even on the lowest setting?
I'd like a phone that can be very dim or very bright.
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From the start I could not understand the positive voices for the AMOLED display. I had a Galaxy and I hated it. Now I have the Nexus and I hate the UNNATURAL colours. They are ghastly! If I had the choice between a Nexus with TFT or AMOLED screen I would certainly pick a TFT.
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Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
@topdnbass
Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
Yes, I have. I do it all the time, as I have still a G1 to compare the Nexus with. If it is "THAT bad" I can't say only that I do not like it and that I would certainly prefer a TFT if had the choice.
Why do you think did the guys from Engadget think the colours to be "unnatural"?
In the end it might not matter that much as it doesn't reduce the functions of the gadget. Other people might even like it, I do not.
S.
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@topdnbass
Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
Yes, I have. I do it all the time, as I have still a G1 to compare the Nexus with. If it is "THAT bad" I can't say only that I do not like it and that I would certainly prefer a TFT if had the choice.
Why do you think did the guys from Engadget think the colours to be "unnatural"?
In the end it might not matter that much as it doesn't reduce the functions of the gadget. Other people might even like it, I do not.
S.
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i personally love it..the colors pop out they look gorgeous
Compared to TFT capacitive screens Amoled are less good under sunlight but they are still usable and certainly much more than HTC WM phones like Diamond and Touch HD
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@topdnbass
Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
Yes, I have. I do it all the time, as I have still a G1 to compare the Nexus with. If it is "THAT bad" I can't say only that I do not like it and that I would certainly prefer a TFT if had the choice.
Why do you think did the guys from Engadget think the colours to be "unnatural"?
In the end it might not matter that much as it doesn't reduce the functions of the gadget. Other people might even like it, I do not.
S.
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You seem to put a lot of faith in what Engadget says. I'm not saying that everything is perfectly flat, but I have a few hundred perfectly-exposed photos from my Nikon D90, all taken with pro glass, on my Nexus, and the colors are not bad at all. They are, well, let's call them "well saturated", but nothing remotely unpleasant - to be honest, given the tiny screen (I take photos be be blown up BIG), the saturation is probably an advantage. And they look notably, even considerably better on the N1 than on an iPhone / iPod touch third-gen.
All of that is my opinion - and I like saturated colors. But I also like skin that still looks like skin, and the N1 delivers that to my eyes.
Gee, didn't I say that it is my opinion and that others might think differently? What you call saturated colours I call unnatural and for me and maybe only for me the colours are an eyesore, but I like the Nexus nevertheless.
big_adventure, you gave me a thought.
I think the best way to really compare these technologies is to have the same image of something, like a HQ picture of your skin.
On both of the phones.
Then compare the output to eachother and to the real life color of your skin.
I said to compare to eachother because a cameras snapshot can change the color, flash, settings, and what not.
Sounds stupid, but maybe what some people define as unnatural on a display, is actually quite natural.
Don't compare how the android OS looks, compare an image within the OS.
vegetaleb said:
Now playing games in summer at the beach at 12am...forget about it and try take spy pics of string gurls with your 5mp
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Well, if you are going to be wandering around a beach at midnight you probably won't run into too many girls to take pictures of. And they'd probably notice the flash going off so it wouldn't be much of a "spy shot".
(Edit: To be fair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight mentions that am/pm by definition don't make any sense for noon and midnight and are thus often confused. But, the sources it quotes that do assign meaning to 12am and 12pm all seem to call 12am midnight and 12pm noon. It's probably why most of the parking signs in SF are now starting to use "12:01am" when they want to talk about late night street cleaning restrictions...that, and the fact that 12am is also ambiguous as to whether it refers to the start of a day or the end of a day...)
After some time with the Moto X I start now to see some bad coloring on the screen I don't know how to explain but a blank page on chrome for example, I can notice little rectangles in what should be plain white like inside that rectangle color changes a little bit to a bit darker or a bit lighter compared to the rectangles around.
just I notice it ? Is it a flaw of the amoled tech or what ? (the effect is less visible with brightness on maximum and almost not visible on vibrant colors, but pretty noticeable on white and gray)
I absolutely see it, while I was browsing on Chrome today noticed it for the first time. On light background it's extremely annoying, and bad. I don't know if they are rectangles or not, but on mine there are horizontal vertical lines all over the panel. Yes it won't be visible on colourful images / background but not every background is like that, nor should be.
This is not a very good Samsung panel Moto chose here. With the kind of obsession I have about displays I don't know, this might become a deal breaker. Sad
PS : The easiest way to notice if your phone has same kind of annoyance or not is to just zoom in in a grey or white area of a webpage, keep the brightness at auto or at 50% and then fix your eye at one certain point of the X's screen and then scroll that white area of the page vertically, and keep doing that for about 15-20 seconds, it should be easily noticeable then.
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I absolutely see it, while I was browsing on Chrome today noticed it for the first time. On light background it's extremely annoying, and bad. I don't know if they are rectangles or not, but on mine there are horizontal vertical lines all over the panel. Yes it won't be visible on colourful images / background but not every background is like that, nor should be.
This is not a very good Samsung panel Moto chose here. With the kind of obsession I have about displays I don't know, this might become a deal breaker. Sad
PS : The easiest way to notice if your phone has same kind of annoyance or not is to just zoom in in a grey or white area of a webpage, keep the brightness at auto or at 50% and then fix your eye at one certain point of the X's screen and then scroll that white area of the page vertically, and keep doing that for about 15-20 seconds, it should be easily noticeable then.
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After a little research I discovered that this is a flaw of the AMOLED technology more specifically of the Pentile Matrix of Samsung's Note 2 (that is the same as in the Moto X), the effect is pretty noticeable on white/gray/light blue and dark green :/ Is just sad that Motorola chose a so poor screen tech on high end smartphone...
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After a little research I discovered that this is a flaw of the AMOLED technology more specifically of the Pentile Matrix of Samsung's Note 2 (that is the same as in the Moto X), the effect is pretty noticeable on white/gray/light blue and dark green :/ Is just sad that Motorola chose a so poor screen tech on high end smartphone...
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Well yeah. Had the Note 2 but don't really remember if it had the same problem or not. But Pentile was there on the S4 too and I am quite sure I didn't notice this on the S4, maybe because it had way better PPI, don't know.
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Well yeah. Had the Note 2 but don't really remember if it had the same problem or not. But Pentile was there on the S4 too and I am quite sure I didn't notice this on the S4, maybe because it had way better PPI, don't know.
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Check here: Page five of anandtech's review of the Moto X (I can't post any links sry)
Note 2 and the Moto X are exactly the same with non symmetrical pixels (both have the issues that we are talking about), the S4 has symmetrical pixels, might explain why it does not have.
My Moto X screen looks too yellowish compared to other LCD display phones like Nexus, iPhone's etc. Is it the issue with Moto X's Amoled display or something is wrong with my device?
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
That being said, I have gone though 2 Moto Xs and the first one came with a very poorly calibrated display and a gross greenish tint. My second one was much better, but I returned it for other reasons, future burn in being one of them. Burn in is different from the problem you're seeing and can best be described as bad tan lines. Some areas of the screen will have different brightness (mostly the nav and notification areas) and it will be obvious when you switch to landscape mode that something isn't right.
If you think something is wrong with your screen and still have a valid warranty, give Motorola a call and let them know about it. They seem to be pretty good about making things right.
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Jayrod1980 said:
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Frankly, it's just a case of not taking care of the fact that we're using OLED tech which is sensitive to static images much like Plasma tech. If you're on Kitkat and use transparent bars like most of us: I can't imagine how anyone could suffer from burn-in that won't go away with time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
But I did not keep it long enough to notice burn.
No burn in here, but I use fullscreen so I don't have a notification or navigation bar.
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What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
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This is absolutely wrong, no offence. IPS displays do not have any cooler colour temperature! They are less saturated than AMOLED displays mostly, and thus the colours look less vibrant, or more accurate if you will. At the same time they will look extremely dull / pale. If possible just look at the S5's display, it has the best white I have seen in a while, neither yellowish or bluish, near perfect.
And yes, I agree with OP, there is a slight Yellowish tint on mine. This reminds me of the the Galaxy S2's display panel. There is nothing you can do other than getting adjusted with it, but you can try increasing the Blue bias of the screen, to something like +3 or +4. There is an app called Screen Adjuster on Google Play to do that. I am using that now, never thought I would have to use it again since S2 days. By increasing the Blue bias the screen will look little "cooler", the Yellowish white will become Bluish white.
This has nothing to do with burn in by the way.
I should have been more clear about that. It's the backlight source that affects color temp the most. Since most IPS displays use white LEDs for backlighting they appear cooler than many (not all) AMOLED panels and older TN displays using CCFLs. Since the individual pixels are their own backlight with AMOLED there is more variability in color reproduction depending on use and calibration.
And it does have something to do with burn-in. If you have a mostly blue background then those subpixels will see more use than the red and green subpixels. Once the blue subpixels fade enough you're left with a yellow tinted screen. It's not burn-in in the traditional CRT sense, but it's still uneven wear. IMO: The small perks of Active Display are not worth having a screen that can be damaged by normal use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404256
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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It can be. There's a member around who got like 4 replacements or something....all with different degrees of it.
I find you don't notice it after a bit.... Unless you put 2 phones side by side.
Personally it doesn't bother me....it would if it was too yellow. I find the dimmer the screen, the more you notice it also.
My first moto x I had since October got burn in around January. I got a new one in June and I have burn in again. It isn't enough to warrant another replacement (yet).
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
i've always used gravitybox to give the statusbar a grayish color instead of black (and here lately the tinted statusbar xposed module) and keep it in expanded desktop with pie controls, so there's no nav bar, and not seeing any burn issues yet, had it since Dec. the horrifically bad burn in on my note 2 is what made me want to be extra careful with the x.
No burn in here after 7 months on mine nor my sister's Moto X.
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Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
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Burn in is common in amoled type displays, specifically on phones such that rely on a nav bar instead of capacitive buttons. The longer the screen is on, or the higher the brightness, the bigger the possibility for screen burn in . Out of the three amoled phones I have owned, the two that have burnt in both had on screen nav bars. I hope this (non technical) summary helps
I'm a bit hesitant to return to an AMOLED screen, but I've heard they've been much improved upon over the last couple years. Reviewers have so far gushed over the new Moto x screen. But, comparison shots where the X is placed next to screens of other top devices shows that the whites are "off". I'm not so concerned about somewhat oversaturated colors, but it's always the whites that bother me the most.
Is it possible for a kernel dev to come along and allow for the possibility to tune the color temperature, as has been done with other devices with IPS LCD screens? Or, is there something with an AMOLED that would make this impossible to do?
This will get better over time as blue degrades faster over time than red and green
Here's an image of my first Nexus 6 (top) and the RMA replacement (bottom): http://i.imgur.com/wNbgFo1.jpg
As you can see, my first N6 had a pink tint across the whole screen which is why I initiated the RMA. While the replacement is better, there's still a red tint to the right half (bottom half in portrait). Actually looking at both, the reddest tints are in the right half.
I also have some bands that are dimmer than the rest of the screen which is very noticabke when scrolling but not so much if looking at a static picture.
It seems these really are using Note 3 Samsung AMOLED panels because the same complaints were posted on another thread last year.
Both devices were manufactured 11/12 if that makes any difference.
I'm just wondering how common of an issue this is. I don't think I'll RMA again for awhile as I'm just taking up devices that should be going towards fulfilling orders and my replacement is serviceable. But considering the price, I really expected better and I don't think I can stomach the flaw.
You answered your question (the very end statement). I can't really see what you're trying to show in the picture as everyone see's colors differently and not all phone displays/pc monitors are color calibrated in the same ways. GL finding the right display for your tastes. They all have compromises albeit some less than others
You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
I have the same problem, the upper part of the screen has a pink Tint and it's bugging the hell out of me, but since i've had my friend bring it with him while coming back from USA, i'm obligated to swallow up whatever defects i find in it
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You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I hear ya. The uniformity, or non, would bother me too
Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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My note 4 looks similar to ur replacement device, the first 2 were really bad,half of bottom was really pink,2nd one the top half was really pink..This one I'm learning to deal with,it just blew my mind last night while laying down in dark messing with wallpapers and noticed all the uneven darkness on dark grey image,dark area's and faint vertical lines everywere.It appears it's from uneven distribution of glue.
I dislike the warm color on mines. Nothing is perfect, there's always something to disliked
Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Do you recall what the build date for both phones were? Not sure if it matters but couldn't hurt to collect that info.
I just called for RMA #2. Hoping it's at least not worse than the one I have now. I think I'm in agreement with you regarding just returning it and waiting until next year, but I already gave the Nexus 5 to my wife so I'd be downgrading the Nexus 4 she had before that...ouch.
Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Hi All,
I'm coming in late but I just got my Nexus 6 from AT&T last night. I've been using an N5 since may and haven't had any issues. I noticed this morning when opening Hangouts, Chrome or any other page that displays white as the background that on the top it has a more greenish hue and towards the bottom right it has a purplish hue. I thought it was my eyes at first because it's subtle but when I'm paying 700.00 for a device it better have a perfect screen. So I played around with the adaptive brightness, rotated it etc. It didn't look any less green to purplish. The bottom right side of the phone in portrait (to the right or the charging port in portrait at any given appropriate angle) had a more purplish hue than the top left (opposing the camera). I'll probably be going back to at&t tonight .. which sucks because I JUST got it set up how I liked it. I hate rooting anymore which is why I buy GPE devices. I could have gone with any other device and rooted and may have to get back into that game if this is how crappy this display is going to be. Also I might add that the encryption does slow the device down a little bit compared to the N5.
P.S. Ignore my sig, I need to update that..
For mine (bought from tmo) the bottom is slightly darker than the top. I only noticed when looking hard for the "link" issue. Out of all the issues I could have had, I find this the least annoying of them.
Over all I'm happy.
I just got my Nexus 6 direct from Google (one of the lucky ones) and for the first time ever, a phone screen is really bugging me. There is a tint, darker from left to right. The most expensive Nexus I've ever bought (and I've bought them all) and the worst display. Very sad.
Here's some images, one with contrast as it was hard to photograph. Much more noticeable to the naked eye.
Does anyone NOT have this issue? If so I'd rather take the chance on replacing it.
Update: Returning it for a replacement. Google kindly gave me $10 credit for the troubles.
I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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Look for it... there are no perfect phones hahaha.
But congrats if you don't get annoyed with your new phone :good: