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Hi all,
Had my Nexus 6 for a while and love it, but its starting to get a little sluggish and I've been having a look at a few ROMs available but I've not quite found one thats took my fancy. I was wondering if someone could recommend a ROM that's minimal providing good performance and possibly something that allows a CPU and GPU overclock? If I'm not mistaken its the kernel that provides the overclocking facility and not the ROM. I have seen a ROM (must include a kernel) that states CPU and GPU overclocks but in the description its actually downclocked for battery life.
Just throwing it out there in case someone reading this could answer as well, I've heard GTA San Andreas is an intense game to play on High settings, how does (stock) perform or as a bonus do you know how it performs with an overclock? I was surprised to see quite a few phone on benchmarks beat the Nexus 6
Thanks for any help/recommendations
first off, questions go into the q&a/help section, not into general. secondly, roms do not provide oc, or performance enhancing. thirdly, you want to try different kernels, as they provide oc and performance enhancements. i use elementalx kernel, which allows me to oc to 3033mhz.
and which phones beat the n6 in benchmarks? i get 58500 on antutu with my n6.
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first off, questions go into the q&a/help section, not into general. secondly, roms do not provide oc, or performance enhancing. thirdly, you want to try different kernels, as they provide oc and performance enhancements. i use elementalx kernel, which allows me to oc to 3033mhz.
and which phones beat the n6 in benchmarks? i get 58500 on antutu with my n6.
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Hi,
Yes as I did say I did pick up that kernels provided over clocking and I will try elementalx and see how that goes. As for the benchmarks for graphics I come across this website and filtered out Desktop and over 7" devices and that's where I discovered the Nexus 6 quite low down the score board.
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp
Well definitely got some stuff to do now, I shall hopefully remove forced encryption and get elementalx on the go and see how it goes.
simms22 said:
first off, questions go into the q&a/help section, not into general. secondly, roms do not provide oc, or performance enhancing. thirdly, you want to try different kernels, as they provide oc and performance enhancements. i use elementalx kernel, which allows me to oc to 3033mhz.
and which phones beat the n6 in benchmarks? i get 58500 on antutu with my n6.
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Hi Again,
Took absolutely ages to install ROM and kernel because I deleted everything I'm twrp (advanced options) but Chroma ROM and Elementalx kernel are installed but I have some questions if you can help. First you have a massive 3033 over clock which if I recall was an option available when installing through recovery, however I've paid for the Elementalx app and highest over clock available is: 2649. Any reason for this? Also can I re install Elementalx through recovery without loosing anything?
Also there's only a 600mhz clock available for graphics is it possible to get higher ?
Last but not least I was really looking forward to having no encryption but it seems Elementalx installs with encryption.. Anyway around this? I've heard of read and write increases of up to three times faster.
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Hi Again,
Took absolutely ages to install ROM and kernel because I deleted everything I'm twrp (advanced options) but Chroma ROM and Elementalx kernel are installed but I have some questions if you can help. First you have a massive 3033 over clock which if I recall was an option available when installing through recovery, however I've paid for the Elementalx app and highest over clock available is: 2649. Any reason for this? Also can I re install Elementalx through recovery without loosing anything?
Also there's only a 600mhz clock available for graphics is it possible to get higher ?
Last but not least I was really looking forward to having no encryption but it seems Elementalx installs with encryption.. Anyway around this? I've heard of read and write increases of up to three times faster.
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if you intall the kernel through tbe app, youll get less options. install it tbrough the recovery, amd go ghrough thd setup and choose 3032mhz.
for the gpu, yes, 600 is the max. no way around that.
the kernel supports decryption, but you have to decrypt first, its not automatic. to decrypt, you have to reformat your storage, then boot up with the kernel.
simms22 said:
if you intall the kernel through tbe app, youll get less options. install it tbrough the recovery, amd go ghrough thd setup and choose 3032mhz.
for the gpu, yes, 600 is the max. no way around that.
the kernel supports decryption, but you have to decrypt first, its not automatic. to decrypt, you have to reformat your storage, then boot up with the kernel.
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Hi again,
I originally did everything through recovery but didn't choose the highest over clock I just assumed it could be changed in settings or something.
Anyway to decrypt.. If I go into TWRP and perform a wipe (the three things that it selects as default) shall I install just the kernal first (no rom, su or gapps) to get the option to decrypt? Then install the ROM , Gapps and su afterwards?
Sorry for the newbness
mrsweet1991 said:
Hi again,
I originally did everything through recovery but didn't choose the highest over clock I just assumed it could be changed in settings or something.
Anyway to decrypt.. If I go into TWRP and perform a wipe (the three things that it selects as default) shall I install just the kernal first (no rom, su or gapps) to get the option to decrypt? Then install the ROM , Gapps and su afterwards?
Sorry for the newbness
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lol, thats alright, we were all newbs once.
no, thats not how things work. a rom has to be installed, then the kermel. then you reformat your storage, then you just reboot and youre unencrypted
btw, im still encrypted. besides the read/write speeds, it all is the same.
Read the disable forced encryption thread in development. Take your time before you mess things up.
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lol, thats alright, we were all newbs once.
no, thats not how things work. a rom has to be installed, then the kermel. then you reformat your storage, then you just reboot and youre unencrypted
btw, im still encrypted. besides the read/write speeds, it all is the same.
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ok, I wiped the phone in TWRP installed Chroma then Elementalx, gApps then supersu then I selected to wipe data and I had to type yes. Afterwards Chroma would be stuck in a boot loop. It said Android is starting.. starting apps but then immediately restart. So I tried again but after installing everything I just performed a factory reset and this time it worked, but I have an odd problem.. it;s installing apps but saying I'm running out of storage space?.. I went into storage and it shows 25.98GB available.. any ideas? and also thanks for your help I do now have it decrypted and I think im running an overclock that you had.. I'll have to wait for the app to install to verify
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ok, I wiped the phone in TWRP installed Chroma then Elementalx, gApps then supersu then I selected to wipe data and I had to type yes. Afterwards Chroma would be stuck in a boot loop. It said Android is starting.. starting apps but then immediately restart. So I tried again but after installing everything I just performed a factory reset and this time it worked, but I have an odd problem.. it;s installing apps but saying I'm running out of storage space?.. I went into storage and it shows 25.98GB available.. any ideas? and also thanks for your help I do now have it decrypted and I think im running an overclock that you had.. I'll have to wait for the app to install to verify
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just reboot. thst happened to me twice, not enough space, and i rebooted. fixed it for me. i believe it said i was running out of space in the /system/. oh well.
simms22 said:
just reboot. thst happened to me twice, not enough space, and i rebooted. fixed it for me. i believe it said i was running out of space in the /system/. oh well.
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Hi,
before you replied I went ahead and tried flashing again this time not performing the wipe after I installed everything. But now I can't get rid of the boot loop, everytime Chroma starts for the first time a window appears saying "apps are starting.. starting apps" but once finished it reboots... I've tried flashing everything and performing a wipe, flashing and performing a cache and delvik wipe and also flashing and performing nothing just booting into system... however im still stuck in that boot loop.. seems I've gone a step backwards somewhere lol.. any ideas? I'll continue flashing in the meantime until I get a reply thanks for your help again
This time I wiped user data as well as factory reset so there was nothing at all on the phone. restarted into TWRP which mounted the file system so I could transfer all the files over from my PC. installed everything as per usual and once installed I didn't wipe delvik cache I just selected to boot into system but same again it just says starting apps and once finished just reboots.
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This time I wiped user data as well as factory reset so there was nothing at all on the phone. restarted into TWRP which mounted the file system so I could transfer all the files over from my PC. installed everything as per usual and once installed I didn't wipe delvik cache I just selected to boot into system but same again it just says starting apps and once finished just reboots.
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After restarting around 3 times its finally booted.. how odd
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After restarting around 3 times its finally booted.. how odd
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ok, I keep getting optimising apps on every boot so not too sure why that is, but storage space running out is gone and encryption is also disabled. One thing however is Elelemntalx app shows the default overclock being used and not exceeding 2265,, however if I go into CPU settings I see 3033 as on option but when selected it won't change the overclock above the default max
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ok, I keep getting optimising apps on every boot so not too sure why that is, but storage space running out is gone and encryption is also disabled. One thing however is Elelemntalx app shows the default overclock being used and not exceeding 2265,, however if I go into CPU settings I see 3033 as on option but when selected it won't change the overclock above the default max
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its because youre at 40% battery or less. on 5.1, the cpu automatically drops to 2265. at 20%, it drops even more. nothing you can do about it at this point
simms22 said:
its because youre at 40% battery or less. on 5.1, the cpu automatically drops to 2265. at 20%, it drops even more. nothing you can do about it at this point
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Sweeet waiting for it to get another 20 odd percent then see if it gets 3033
Vindicator kernel supports 2.9ghz CPU OC and 700mhz GPU. Optipop or benzo ROM are both pretty optimized.
I have had some issues with my phone since unlocking with sunshine. See separate thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/help-bricked-xt1254-unlocking-to-t3279581 for description. I have a theory about this now and would like some opinions from folks with more experience.
I used device encryption on my Turbo before the OTA update to Lollipop. After encrypting the phone I would be prompted to enter my PIN to decrypt the data partition before the phone would boot, and then I'd have to enter the PIN again after boot to unlock it. After the OTA I no longer had to enter my PIN when booting the phone, but I would still have to enter it after boot to unlock. After the OTA the phone still reported that it was encrypted in the system security settings even though it didn't need a PIN to decrypt at boot time. That makes sense from what little I know because encrypting the device re-writes the data partition, and the OTA didn't touch the data partition and could not un-encrypt it. I was baffled by this, but I didn't want to factory reset and wipe the data partition to let me re-encrypt the phone.
So after the OTA, the data partition of my phone was still encrypted, but magically the phone was able to decrypt data and boot without my PIN. I don't know why. But one clue is that after unlocking and installing TWRP I looked at TWRP log and saw a log message saying something about decrypting with default PIN. Anyway, I never wiped data, but my phone somehow manages to boot. Re-flashing system and recovery caused problems at first, but now it seems to be back to the way it was. I haven't flashed a new ROM yet, but I expect that when I do I'll have to wipe data and that will get everything back to normal.
My question is has anyone else experimented with device encryption and is this behavior expected?
Thanks.
Not having to enter a PIN with the factory image was a bug I initially discovered, and reported, during the *initial* Android L SOAK test. Needless to say, they never fixed the bug (plus one of the Stagefright CVEs) during the second SOAK rollout. I reported it then, too. They did nothing. That second SOAK was the straw that broke the camel's back, for me. I will never participate in another.
As far as this bug goes, what I would do, is an FDR, and re-encrypt your device to wipe the key store and start over.
Sent from my DROID Turbo via Tapatalk. Now with that cyanogenmod goodness.
I got notifications that the SU4TL-49 OTA was ready to install on my phone, and I had read that if you try to install it with anything but stock recovery that you get into a boot loop. I figured it was a matter of time before I ended up accidentally installing the OTA upgrade and so decided to wipe my phone and go back to stock, and I would use that opportunity to re-encrypt the phone. It took me a couple of tries before I discovered that factory reset isn't enough to remove the encryption, and that I had to reformat the data partition. This took a few hours of going back and forth between reverting to stock, upgrading, rooting, configuring and starting over before I finally got it right, but eventually the phone said that it wasn't encrypted and gave me the option to encrypt. What a pain. After setting up all my apps for the third or fourth time I thought I was done. Whenever I rebooted I was prompted for my PIN before android booted. I even had to enter my PIN to run TWRP.
At least that's the way it was for a few hours. Now when I reboot it just starts up android with no password again. All the effort to un-encrypt and re-encrypt seems to have been a waste. Oh well, at least I avoided getting into boot loop hell.
Hopefully this unencrypting without requiring password/PIN thing gets fixed when (if) they come out with M for the turbo.
This just keeps getting better and better. I decided to flash the Unofficial CM13 ROM this afternoon just for fun. I got it all set up when I found that the GPS receiver wasn't working. Searching the thread I found a link to a flash-able radio image to fix that, and when I rebooted to TWRP it prompted me for a password to decrypt the data partition! Unfortunately it didn't like my PIN no matter how many times I entered it. I don't know if there's something about entering a numerical PIN on the qwerty keyboard, but it had worked earlier in the day before it stopped prompting for passwords. After a bunch of tries and reboots I gave up and downloaded a fastboot flashable version of the same. I've spent most of the day screwing around with this phone already and I'm not going to reformat the data partition again today for sure! Maybe it just needs a good night's sleep.
Astrobrewer said:
This just keeps getting better and better. I decided to flash the Unofficial CM13 ROM this afternoon just for fun. I got it all set up when I found that the GPS receiver wasn't working. Searching the thread I found a link to a flash-able radio image to fix that, and when I rebooted to TWRP it prompted me for a password to decrypt the data partition! Unfortunately it didn't like my PIN no matter how many times I entered it. I don't know if there's something about entering a numerical PIN on the qwerty keyboard, but it had worked earlier in the day before it stopped prompting for passwords. After a bunch of tries and reboots I gave up and downloaded a fastboot flashable version of the same. I've spent most of the day screwing around with this phone already and I'm not going to reformat the data partition again today for sure! Maybe it just needs a good night's sleep.
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Encryption is totally broken on CM13. The issue is that our version of TWRP cannot decrypt it. I contacted the maintainer of TWRP for our device about this issue and he said that he tried to fix the issue, but he failed.
Also, official CM13 has been out for a while now for the Turbo. No need to go with the unofficial version.
Thanks for the info @TheSt33v, but I'm not sure that it's totally broken.
The strange thing is that I was using TWRP 3.0.2 just fine after encrypting phone while on stock ROM, and it worked for a while even after flashing CM13. Then it just stopped liking my PIN. But CM13 takes my PIN and decrypts data just fine. So my phone is usable for now, and the problem of it decrypting without asking for a PIN is solved for now. I just went to cyanogenmod and see that there's a CM13 recovery. Based on your post I'm guessing that's what is broken, so no point in flashing that. Oh well, at least my phone is secure.
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Thanks for the info @TheSt33v, but I'm not sure that it's totally broken.
The strange thing is that I was using TWRP 3.0.2 just fine after encrypting phone while on stock ROM, and it worked for a while even after flashing CM13. Then it just stopped liking my PIN. But CM13 takes my PIN and decrypts data just fine. So my phone is usable for now, and the problem of it decrypting without asking for a PIN is solved for now. I just went to cyanogenmod and see that there's a CM13 recovery. Based on your post I'm guessing that's what is broken, so no point in flashing that. Oh well, at least my phone is secure.
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Just FYI, our TWRP maintainer has fixed decryption. You can get the latest version here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=39562 (version 3.0.2-0 mod 02 as of this writing). I still had trouble decrypting a partition that was previously formatted using the stock recovery menu, but once I formatted the data partition using this version of TWRP and re-encrypted, it decrypted fine.
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Just FYI, our TWRP maintainer has fixed decryption...
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Yes they have fixed it! I found TWRP Mod 2 over the weekend and saw from the change log that decryption was fixed. I flashed it and it works great. No problems decrypting my previously encrypted data partition since I flashed mod 2. The funny thing about it is that basic TWRP 3.0.2 (no mod) worked well enough for long enough for me to flash CM13, and it even seemed to work for a little while after that. But then it decided that it didn't know how to decrypt my phone anymore and I was stuck until Mod 2. I can't explain why it worked for a while and then stopped, but I'm very happy that mod 2 fixed it.
Thanks for your help and support. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only user who encrypts his phone. There don't seem to be a lot of threads about encryption/decryption issues.
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Yes they have fixed it! I found TWRP Mod 2 over the weekend and saw from the change log that decryption was fixed. I flashed it and it works great. No problems decrypting my previously encrypted data partition since I flashed mod 2. The funny thing about it is that basic TWRP 3.0.2 (no mod) worked well enough for long enough for me to flash CM13, and it even seemed to work for a little while after that. But then it decided that it didn't know how to decrypt my phone anymore and I was stuck until Mod 2. I can't explain why it worked for a while and then stopped, but I'm very happy that mod 2 fixed it.
Thanks for your help and support. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only user who encrypts his phone. There don't seem to be a lot of threads about encryption/decryption issues.
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Most people don't seem to think it's worth the impact that it has on performance.
I was worried about the performance hit too before I tried it. But I don't notice any real difference in performance. Of there is a hit it's too small for me to tell.
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I was worried about the performance hit too before I tried it. But I don't notice any real difference in performance. Of there is a hit it's too small for me to tell.
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This is a very interesting thread. I would like to encrypt so I can setup my work exchange email as its a requirement. Just to clarify what is the order to do this in? Currently I am running RR 6.01 but have run CF's 1.3.6 ROM most of the time as its awesome.
Can I encrypt using RR or do I need to switch back to CFs ROM or to stock Lollipop after installing the upgraded TWRP in place of the standard version I am running now?
thanks for the help and information.
oldidaho said:
This is a very interesting thread. I would like to encrypt so I can setup my work exchange email as its a requirement. Just to clarify what is the order to do this in? Currently I am running RR 6.01 but have run CF's 1.3.6 ROM most of the time as its awesome.
Can I encrypt using RR or do I need to switch back to CFs ROM or to stock Lollipop after installing the upgraded TWRP in place of the standard version I am running now?
thanks for the help and information.
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You can encrypt on RR. Just make sure you're running TWRP version 3.0.2-0 mod 2: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=39562
If encryption fails, you'll need to format your data partition (aka do a factory reset) using this version of TWRP. Then it will work.
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You can encrypt on RR. Just make sure you're running TWRP version 3.0.2-0 mod 2: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=39562
If encryption fails, you'll need to format your data partition (aka do a factory reset) using this version of TWRP. Then it will work.
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thanks so much for the clarification! Being encrypted, how does that affect installing future updates or restores? Can I still flash ROMS and other ZIPS from TWRP the same as now?
oldidaho said:
thanks so much for the clarification! Being encrypted, how does that affect installing future updates or restores? Can I still flash ROMS and other ZIPS from TWRP the same as now?
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The only difference is that you'll have to enter your password/pin every time you boot twrp. Don't try to use a pattern lock. Everything else will be the same.
TheSt33v said:
The only difference is that you'll have to enter your password/pin every time you boot twrp. Don't try to use a pattern lock. Everything else will be the same.
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thank you for the help! I was able to encrypt my RR MM install without having to wipe the data partition. It now prompts me to put my PIN in when booting up and when going into the modded version of TWRP. It then is able to decrypt the partition in TWRP so as you said just like before. Only difference is a little longer boot up time. Performance seems the same to me.
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thank you for the help! I was able to encrypt my RR MM install without having to wipe the data partition. It now prompts me to put my PIN in when booting up and when going into the modded version of TWRP. It then is able to decrypt the partition in TWRP so as you said just like before. Only difference is a little longer boot up time. Performance seems the same to me.
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Guess I spoke too soon. phone was working fine for a day. Yesterday at work I'm looking at my phone as it reboots on its own (just sitting there). I then get cant decrypt partition message. Cant do anything and it wont boot up into the OS WO giving this error. In TWRP still cant do anything because it cant decript the partition. So I formatted the data partition and started over. I had saved a recent backup to my PC so I was able to get back to that. Now running CFs latest instead of RR. I need my phone, cant take a chance on this happening again as I was instantly dead in the water. Just wont encrypt.
oldidaho said:
This is a very interesting thread. I would like to encrypt so I can setup my work exchange email as its a requirement. Just to clarify what is the order to do this in? Currently I am running RR 6.01 but have run CF's 1.3.6 ROM most of the time as its awesome.
Can I encrypt using RR or do I need to switch back to CFs ROM or to stock Lollipop after installing the upgraded TWRP in place of the standard version I am running now?
thanks for the help and information.
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thank you for the help! I was able to encrypt my RR MM install without having to wipe the data partition. It now prompts me to put my PIN in when booting up and when going into the modded version of TWRP. It then is able to decrypt the partition in TWRP so as you said just like before. Only difference is a little longer boot up time. Performance seems the same to me.
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Guess I spoke too soon. phone was working fine for a day. Yesterday at work I'm looking at my phone as it reboots on its own (just sitting there). I then get cant decrypt partition message. Cant do anything and it wont boot up into the OS WO giving this error. In TWRP still cant do anything because it cant decript the partition. So I formatted the data partition and started over. I had saved a recent backup to my PC so I was able to get back to that. Now running CFs latest instead of RRI need my phone, cant take a chance on this happening again as I was instantly dead in the water. Just wont encrypt.
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Well, just as you used CM13 Marshmallow and RR Marshmallow just fine without encryption, not sure why you went to CF Lollipop instead of RR just because encryption didn't work. It just seems you were implying it's CM13 or RR at fault when you used them just fine before, and even now on CF you are NOT using encryption.
But it's your phone, so you can run what you want.
I do commend you for having a recent backup on your PC.
ChazzMatt said:
Well, just as you used CM13 and RR just fine without encryption, not sure why you went to CF instead of RR just because encryption didn't work. But it's your phone.
Just not sure why you are implying it's CM13 or RR at fault when you used them just fine before, and even now on CF you are NOT using encryption.
I do commend you for having a recent backup on your PC.
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I should have clarified, I dont think RR had anything to do with my issue. I actually really liked RR, it has some great features, great performance and good battery life too. I just missed the Moto features in the stock and CFs ROMs.
oldidaho said:
I should have clarified, I dont think RR had anything to do with my issue. I actually really liked RR, it has some great features, great performance and good battery life too. I just missed the Moto features in the stock and CFs ROMs.
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Strange. I've been using RR M encrypted for several weeks now with no issues. Oh well. If you're happy with modified stock, that's all that matters. You can encrypt that too if you like. I'm a big fan of the Moto features as well, and RR M has basically all of them built in besides Voice (chop chop flashlight was removed for a while, but it has been added back). Although I've never understood what Voice offers that Google Now does not.
Mystery solved!
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... At least that's the way it was for a few hours. Now when I reboot it just starts up android with no password again. All the effort to un-encrypt and re-encrypt seems to have been a waste. Oh well, at least I avoided getting into boot loop hell.
Hopefully this unencrypting without requiring password/PIN thing gets fixed when (if) they come out with M for the turbo.
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I have been running the CM13 ROM for the past few months and it's been great, but now that Verizon came out with official Marshmallow I decided to go back to a stock-based ROM again because I've been missing VOLTE. So I flashed ComputerFreak274_MM. After flashing and rooting I was back in the stupid state of the phone saying that it was encrypted but booting without a PIN. It seemed unreal that Moto/Verizon would have left this bug in MM too. So I reformatted data, re-flashed and rooted the ROM and tried encrypting. Then I discovered that it won't encrypt if it's rooted. So back to wiping, re-formatting and flashing again, but this time I am able to successfully encrypt before rooting. Success! Now root and start setting up the phone. Now I have to enter my PIN before it will boot into the system or into TWRP. Yay! By now it's 1:00am and I have to be at work early, so I let it sit overnight while my apps download. In the morning I flash SuperSU and notice that I wasn't prompted for a password to decrypt when I booted into TWRP and I wasn't prompted for password when booting system after flashing SuperSU. WTF!!! More time wasted. It seemed that stock ROMs just don't like encryption. :crying:
Anyway, after stewing about it all day I randomly chanced into the solution. In the Security settings menu there's an option under Encryption called "Secure start-up" which only becomes available when phone is encrypted. The Secure start-up options says:
"You can further protect this device by requiring your PIN before it starts up. Until the device starts up, it can't receive calls, messages, or notifications, including alarms. This helps protect data on lost or stolen devices."Secure start-up defaults to disabled for some reason, and when it's disabled the phone automatically decrypts itself when it boots without requiring PIN entry. So you can encrypt your phone and still be totally unprotected. What a dumb-ass default!
But when I enable Secure start-up then encryption works the way it should -- with phone prompting for PIN before booting. Maybe I just didn't notice it, but I didn't see anything when I encrypted the phone saying to enable Secure start-up to actually protect the phone. I'm guessing that this option was there in Lollipop too; but who knew???
Hi guys,
I tried a couple of years ago disabling encryption on my Nexus 6 and the performance was great, but as updates were released it turned out to be a pain to keep up always having to manually update the phone. My nexus 6 now is crawling and I'm thinking about trying to disable encryption. I could not find any sort of reports if it can be done on 7.1.1
Has anyone tried? Is there any guide? Thanks!
Mephisto_POA said:
Hi guys,
I tried a couple of years ago disabling encryption on my Nexus 6 and the performance was great, but as updates were released it turned out to be a pain to keep up always having to manually update the phone. My nexus 6 now is crawling and I'm thinking about trying to disable encryption. I could not find any sort of reports if it can be done on 7.1.1
Has anyone tried? Is there any guide? Thanks!
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It's no different. If your bootloader is not unlocked, unlocking it will wipe the user data partition. If the bootloader is already unlocked, you'll need to wipe the user data partition.
*IN EITHER CASE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA. DO A BACKUP FIRST
Then flash a ROM with an included kernel that doesn't force encrypt. Or, just flash a kernel that doesn't force encrypt.
Now that I've answered your question, IMHO, it's not worth the effort. If your phone is crawling, do a factory reset. On a stock ROM, go to Settings > Backup & Reset and make sure you have your Google backup settings enabled. Use the Factory Data Reset button to actually reset. READ through the information and confirm. This will cause your phone to reboot with a wiped system partition.
If your on a custom ROM I'm going to assume you know how to wipe through recovery.
ktmom said:
...., IMHO, it's not worth the effort. If your phone is crawling, do a factory reset.....
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My 7.1.1 uses the lite stock rom of Danvdh.
I think you're right about the hassle. Only decrypting is not enough. But debloating and removing unused stuff and decrypting the data partition did raise performance on my N6.
Yeah, I know it is a bit of a hassle, but considering there will be no more updates after 7.1.1 it should be a once only process right? Is possible to disable encryption on 7.1.1. without rooting?
I'm happy to unlock the bootloader and wipe the phone, not a problem.
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Yeah, I know it is a bit of a hassle, but considering there will be no more updates....
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Don;t forget the monthly security updates.
I am using the lite stock room of Danvdh. It's a pre-rooted stock room.
But I think updates can be dirty flashed because the system, radio and bootloader will not change anymore.
So root and install TWRP to flash the updates
the problem with rooting is that many apps will not work, I'm cool staying without root and vanilla android, I just want to get rid of the encryption
Mephisto_POA said:
the problem with rooting is that many apps will not work, I'm cool staying without root and vanilla android, I just want to get rid of the encryption
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In that case the post of @ktmom is applicable.
I am on 7.1.1 and have used the fed patcher mentioned on this site and it has worked nicely on custom and stock ROMs. But u have to be rooted.
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In that case the post of @ktmom is applicable.
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I'm a bit illiterate in this aspect, apologies. but I could not find a vanilla android for nexus 6 with just encryption disabled and no root. I would really appreciate if you could give me some directions?
The NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT seems both to have only modified versions. I'm a bit confused
Mephisto_POA said:
I'm a bit illiterate in this aspect, apologies. but I could not find a vanilla android for nexus 6 with just encryption disabled and no root. I would really appreciate if you could give me some directions?
The NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT seems both to have only modified versions. I'm a bit confused
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Plain vanilla unencrypted would be google factory image plus a non forced enforcing kernel. B14CKB1RD, Franco there are others.
Custom ROM that is close to vanilla but comes with a non forced encrypting kernel would be Pure Nexus.
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I would really appreciate if you could give me some directions?
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I have only one direction for you and that's the lite stock rom of Danvdh.
The kernel is the modified part. (no forced encryption).
After flashing this rom, you can unroot by uninstalling supersu.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
NLBeev said:
I have only one direction for you and that's the lite stock rom of Danvdh.
The kernel is the modified part. (no forced encryption).
After flashing this rom, you can unroot by uninstalling supersu.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
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Hi, I also want to remove encryption from my Nexus 6 Stock as it is a stuttering mess.
I have rooted and installed the stock rom of Danvdh, but to my disappointment on boot up the phone is still showing as encrypted.
Have I done something wrong?
saltyzip said:
Hi, I also want to remove encryption from my Nexus 6 Stock as it is a stuttering mess.
I have rooted and installed the stock rom of Danvdh, but to my disappointment on boot up the phone is still showing as encrypted.
Have I done something wrong?
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That was an answer to a different question.
The ROM you installed I believe has a non-force encrypting kernel. But just installing a non-force encrypting kernel isn't enough. You need to wipe user data and install a kernel that doesn't force encrypt.
Please read back a page to two for the whole recent conversation that has more details, like the fact that you'll lose all of your data in this process.
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Hi, I also want to remove encryption from my Nexus 6 Stock as it is a stuttering mess.
I have rooted and installed the stock rom of Danvdh, but to my disappointment on boot up the phone is still showing as encrypted.
Have I done something wrong?
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Got it working, just followed this:
Just because forced encryption is disabled doesn't mean it decrypts you. You have to do that yourself by formatting data either through TWRP (TWRP > Wipe > Format Data button) or through fastboot (fastboot format userdata), which will wipe out your app data and your internal storage partition so make the appropriate backups.
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Got it working, just followed this:
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You going to take credit, you should at least use your own words ?
I've gone with your guys suggestion with stock lite, working like a charm, very snappy. The phone feels indeed light, and multitasking is way smoother now, thanks!!!
just on a side note, after you install the rom you need to wipe the data partition to get rid of the encryption
Installed twrp on bn Nexus 6 os 5.1 OTA for 7.1.1 encrypted it
No clue how to fix this I'm a noob unlocked bootloader unencrypted Android 5 then it OTA updated to 7.1.1 and now can't get to twrp to wipe encryption how can I get this going again phones working just can't use cable to computer have the SD card reader micro SD any help would be appreciated
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...just can't use cable to computer...
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Get your phone's USB port fixed, then you can fix the ROM issue.
I successfully rooted my droid (that came with lollipop), using this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684
installed twrp backed up the stock OS and installed resurrection remix lollipop rom. I did not install any different modems or radios as I planned to stay on lollipop.
Everything worked great yet after a day or two the display/phone would appear to lock up. I can press power, the display doesn't come on and when (usually) moving the the volume up/down I do hear sounds. Sometimes at this point it will reboot by itself, other times I have to reboot it.
When it comes up it goes through the android is upgrading thing, and sometimes works fine after, sometimes not, regardless eventually this problem repeats.
Thinking it was perhaps RR I tried straight Cyanogenmod, and eventually the rooted stock OS, both have this same problem.
I've tried using it with very minimal installed in the way of apps, same issue.
I've tried saving the log to SD to peer at later, but going through it I don't really see anything obvious to show what the problem is.
I"m wondering if there's a problem with the phone itself (it's a refurb) and am considering unrooting it and returning it.
Anyone seen this or thoughts on what might be the issue?
p.s.
if you happen to have a good link handy to an unrooting guide you might shoot it my way thanks.
thanks in advance!
What versions of the other ROMs did you use? Lollipop also, or Marshmallow? Nougat? For rooted stock ROM did you upgrade to Marshmallow? None of the Lollipop ROMs are supported anymore, so hard to answer for those.
There are ways to grab logs after a reboot, but here's another suggestion...
I use Auto Reboot app (needs root) to schedule a reboot my phone every day while I'm asleep.
This seems to keep the cobwebs cleared out, so the phone runs better. I know you want to find the issue, but maybe it's an accumulation of apps not releasing RAM orb something. This might help prevent that.
thanks for the reply
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What versions of the other ROMs did you use? Lollipop also, or Marshmallow? Nougat? For rooted stock ROM did you upgrade to Marshmallow? None of the Lollipop ROMs are supported anymore, so hard to answer for those.
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I tried the last released CM lollipop snapshot, as well as the last nightly.
For RR it was last released, "ROM OS Version: 5.1.x Lollipop"
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There are ways to grab logs after a reboot,
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Yeh I've been saving it to the SD so I can view it after a reboot, I've looked at 4 or 5 of them after the problem occurred and at least to me nothing really stood out
ChazzMatt said:
but here's another suggestion...
I use Auto Reboot app (needs root) to schedule a reboot my phone every day while I'm asleep.
This seems to keep the cobwebs cleared out, so the phone runs better. I know you want to find the issue, but maybe it's an accumulation of apps not releasing RAM orb something. This might help prevent that.
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Yeh I expect it might periodically need a reboot but if it's just unpredictiably locking up or rebooting on its own it's not very usable.
I think I'm just going to have to try to unroot and return, maybe I'll go with a LG V20 as I don't want to have pay to re-root another one of these and possibly have same issue. Also the whole pay to have some app do something secret to my phone does leave me a bit uneasy.
Kind of a bummer as I'm actually pretty impressed with this device, fast, good battery, takes nice photos, only drawbacks for me are no removable SD and lack of LED notification, but I was willing to live without those given how good everything else was.
thanks
Same here,
I tried with different Roms 7.X, still blocking and display not turning on.
I'd appreciate some help.
Thanks!
Android Version: 7.1.2
Current Rom: AOKP
Kernel: 3.10.107-Stock-bhb27-nougat-kerneL
MrN00b said:
Same here,
I tried with different Roms 7.X, still blocking and display not turning on.
I'd appreciate some help.
Thanks!
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FWIW and in case it helps you or someone else, I seem to have fixed mine finally, here's what I did.
First I installed latest twrp (mod 4) https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=39562 (there's a thread on this twrp if you want tor read on it). That in itself didn't fix the issue but did finally let me format and got rid of an 'mkfs.f2fs: invalid option -- r, ERROR=1' type error I used to get.
I installed this stock zip from twrp as described in thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-su4tl-49-100-stock-t3390041
It would never actually boot it would shut my phone off not long after showing the boot screen, and I'm not sure if doing that was necessary or not.
Taking some suggestions from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/help-request-custom-rom-phone-unlocked-t3767070
I dug up the last official CM 13 snapshot:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cm-13.0-20161221-SNAPSHOT-ZNH5YAO3Y5-quark.zip
sha1: 9a219dd487c27e51b0c5c4922812838f394099c5
Wipe and installed with no gapps and voilà it would boot consistently. Without reinstalling I tried installing pico gapps and it would still boot though it took maybe 15 mins initially.
I want Nougat so I wiped and installed lineage-14.1-20180612-UNOFFICIAL-quark.zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-t3494646 again no gapps and it also booted fine, whereas previously it would hang on booting. Without reinstalling ROM I tried installing opengapps nano and it would just hang.
I could then no longer get it to boot again, so I reinstalled CM13 no gapps, which booted fine, wipe and install lineage-14.1-20180612-UNOFFICIAL-quark.zip no gapps, and now it boots fine though currently it's taking a while.
I should perhaps note I took twrp backups inbetween steps whenever I had a working boot, (ex before installing gapps), but once the phone went back to hanging on boot, those restores didn't help. Only reflashing CM13 seemed to clear things up.
My ultimate goal is a LOS ish Nougat/Oreo ROM with no gapps using microg, and running tmobile, I'll see what I end up with.
Someone is testing LOS 16 on yours Shamu Phone? 15.1 Nightly is a stable build, is it 16 Nightly Build the same?
How should people know this? Lineage-16.0 is out since a few hours.
but since we have this https://github.com/LineageOS/charter/blob/master/device-support-requirements.md you can be shure of a certain quality
Any guidance on moving from 15.1 to 16.0? I assume a clean install is probably a good idea?
Thanks!
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First build isn't working properly for me. After flashing it gives me the "Decryption unsuccessful" message. Don't have encryption enabled, and my phone is formatted to ext4. Tried wiping multiple times in different ways. Had been running LOS 15.1 for months with no problems. Clean flash.
Update: Just to see, reinstalled LOS 15 and encrypted my device. Decryption still fails after flashing LOS 16 and trying to boot.
Quade321 said:
First build isn't working properly for me. After flashing it gives me the "Decryption unsuccessful" message. Don't have encryption enabled, and my phone is formatted to ext4. Tried wiping multiple times in different ways. Had been running LOS 15.1 for months with no problems. Clean flash.
Update: Just to see, reinstalled LOS 15 and encrypted my device. Decryption still fails after flashing LOS 16 and trying to boot.
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I was thinking about flashing back to the last official google release (N6F27M), and then up to 16.0, but was going to wait to see if there was any official recommendation. Kind of a nuke the "site" from orbit approach - "it's the only way to be sure..."
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cdaly1970 said:
I was thinking about flashing back to the last official google release (N6F27M), and then up to 16.0, but was going to wait to see if there was any official recommendation. Kind of a nuke the "site" from orbit approach - "it's the only way to be sure..."
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Yeah, I was thinking about doing that, but just didn't feel like it, and can't imagine how it'd help. Probably just wait a week (probably more) or so for the builds to settle down. They're always pretty unstable at first anyway.
Quade321 said:
First build isn't working properly for me. After flashing it gives me the "Decryption unsuccessful" message. Don't have encryption enabled, and my phone is formatted to ext4. Tried wiping multiple times in different ways. Had been running LOS 15.1 for months with no problems. Clean flash.
Update: Just to see, reinstalled LOS 15 and encrypted my device. Decryption still fails after flashing LOS 16 and trying to boot.
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Did you follow the instructions on the LOS site? I upgraded from LOS 15.1 to LOS 16 without issues. I wasn't encrypted on LOS 15.1 and still won't because right now that is a headache with TWRP being unable to decrypt.
https://lineageos.org/Changelog-22/
BootloopedMillennials said:
Did you follow the instructions on the LOS site? I upgraded from LOS 15.1 to LOS 16 without issues. I wasn't encrypted on LOS 15.1 and still won't because right now that is a headache with TWRP being unable to decrypt.
https://lineageos.org/Changelog-22/
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I don't see anything that isn't normal in the instructions. Wipe, flash, done. And also don't know what you mean about TWRP being unable to decrypt. Newest TWRP (been for like 2 years) 3.2.3-0 works fine for me. That's interesting that it works for you though. No clue what's causing my problem.
Also when you say upgrade, do you mean you flashed 16 on top of 15.1? I did a clean flash, wiping everything.
The March 2 build is now booting for me. Noticed some changes to cryptfs in the logs, and sure enough. Now that it's booting, everything actually seems pretty stable.
I also got the "Decryption unsuccessful" on first boot of an upgrade from lineage 15.1
I was eventually able to boot, but had to do a bunch of random button pushing, and ended up nukeing the phone, but eventually got it to boot... But it has several other issues...
I did an "Advanced Wipe" in TWRP, and turned on every checkbox... Cleared every partition... Then did TWRP sideload of:
lineage-16.0-20190302-nightly-shamu-signed.zip
open_gapps-arm-9.0-nano-20190302.zip
Magisk-v18.1.zip
And it still asked for password on first boot... No way to put away the password entry keyboard BTW, preventing you from getting to the "Emergency Call" button... No 911 for you :'(
So I read somewhere that doing a "Format Data" under the TWRP wipe might help...
So I rebooted, did the above steps again, then tried "Format Data" before leaving TWRP... This failed to mount, and so no format... For some reason, I think on my phone I have TWRP on 2 partitions maybe? For some reason, rebooting from inside TWRP to "Recovery" (so yah, load recovery, then reboot directly to recovery) appeared to fix this unable to mount issue...
So now, I again wiped all paritions, sideloaded everything, got the "Format Data" to mount and work, then rebooted...
This booted and presented the initial setup (YAY!!) Went through that, and attempted to do a Google restore of the phone during setup... This looked like it worked, but NOTHING would download (Everything said it was trying to install, but nothing would...)
I am not super knowledgeable about this stuff, but one of my guess-timations of the issue was that it was a storage permission issue... Rebooted to TWRP again, and under Advanced I found something called "Fix Contents" that claimed it would attempt to repair the SELINUX model or something, which sounded permission issue related to me, so I tried that one...
And it booted, and things installed from Google Play (Double YAY!!)
I attempted to setup multiple users, and logging in a second user apparently seems to kill the Software Home Buttons for all users, and only rebooting brings them back for the primary user, and they disappear again when booting a secondary user... Other than this so far it is very fast, really quick, and looks like it has alot of potential as soon as they work out the kinks
P.S. Now I just wish they would un-discontinue Lineage support for the LG V20... Long live Removable Batteries paired with SDCard slot and IR-Blaster for the win!
Is there a way too root yet
I installed the "stock" version of Gapps that came with the pixel launcher. I can only use the Trebuchet launcher because the Pixel Launcher only crashes. Should I have installed a different Gapps version if it is unsupported? Or is this just a bug? Also, the Android Setup wizard keeps crashing when it is checking for an update at the beginning. It will not complete. Other than those issues, everything else seems to be working fine so far.
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Is there a way too root yet
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Yes. Magisk.
nhasian said:
I installed the "stock" version of Gapps that came with the pixel launcher. I can only use the Trebuchet launcher because the Pixel Launcher only crashes. Should I have installed a different Gapps version if it is unsupported? Or is this just a bug? Also, the Android Setup wizard keeps crashing when it is checking for an update at the beginning. It will not complete. Other than those issues, everything else seems to be working fine so far.
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I am also seeing this problem, as are several others: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/pixel-launcher-issue-lineage-16-nexus-6-t3906748
I am also facing the problem of the crash of pixel launcher. Does anybody know whether there is a recovery could decrypt the data of Android Pie?
1997cui said:
I am also facing the problem of the crash of pixel launcher. Does anybody know whether there is a recovery could decrypt the data of Android Pie?
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Do you have a backup of your data? If you do, don't bother trying to decrypt it. Just wipe format your phone and start fresh.
wipe is not enough, must format encrypted partition
Just wanted to clarify that wiping is not sufficient to remove the encrypted partition. it must be formatted from the advanced wipe settings in TWRP.
David B. said:
Do you have a backup of your data? If you do, don't bother trying to decrypt it. Just wipe your phone and start fresh.
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nhasian said:
Just wanted to clarify that wiping is not sufficient to remove the encrypted partition. it must be formatted from the advanced wipe settings in TWRP.
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Yes. Sorry. I am aware of this, but used the incorrect terminology. Format was indeed what I had intended to say.
the 1st 16 release my camera did not work but it did on the 2nd nightly. i did today's [mar 6th] update and the camera does not work. info only.
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the 1st 16 release my camera did not work but it did on the 2nd nightly. i did today's [mar 6th] update and the camera does not work. info only.
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Usually, a reboot fixes the camera. It seems that on some boots it works and on some it doesn't.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...geos-16-0-nexus-6-shamu-t3906045/post79053994
ok, i will give it a try.