Screen mirroring lag.. Wifi Direct? Samsung TV - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to play my games on my tv.
I bought a Moga controller and i'd like to play while watching the TV instead of my phone screen.
There seems to be a 1.5 second lag between my phone and the TV making it unplayable
Is there any other solution that would be an instant image transfer?
Whats WiFi direct for since there is Screen Mirroring?
I have a Samsung F6300

At this point in time, even with Chromecast Screen Mirroring being in beta stages, there isn't a way to make it faster.
Until Google/Chromecast/Samsung develop the heck out of the software, it's the best we got.
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WiFi Direct is for filesharing over a WiFi connection, kind of like DLNA.
The fastest way I can think of is probably getting an HDMI MHL adapter off of Amazon. It will not be instant but it'll be faster than wireless mirroring.

Thanks! This sucks.. I wanted to play emulators on my tv. It's worthless now.

Cerv3r said:
Thanks! This sucks.. I wanted to play emulators on my tv. It's worthless now.
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That's exactly what I do with the MHL cord, play emulators. It works a lot better than wireless screen mirroring. Here is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1061799433/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_fnwDub0832NDW
Like I said, it's not instantaneous, but it's actually pretty close. 10x better than wireless.

devynbf said:
That's exactly what I do with the MHL cord, play emulators. It works a lot better than wireless screen mirroring. Here is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1061799433/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_fnwDub0832NDW
Like I said, it's not instantaneous, but it's actually pretty close. 10x better than wireless.
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Also older smart dock from Note 2 works great via hdmi. I think there is small delay because bluetooth too. When used with smart dock you can plug in usb mouse and this way phone screen will be disabled and further increase game performance. There will be no need to draw two screens: 2k for phone and 1080p scaled version for tv. Without mouse both screens will be on.
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I got the Samsung mhl cord at 50% off by registering my note 4.
Works perfect with my emulators, and you can charge your phone while you play.
You'll still run out of battery, but it will help a bit.
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I regulaly play Dead Trigger 2 using an MHL/HDMI adapter without any problem. If there is a delay, it doesn't interfere with game play. Wifi direct--that's another story.
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[Q] hdmi to laptop

My laptop has a hdmi input. I was going to see how Earth and legend looked on a larger screen than a 4.3" screen. When I connect from the thrill to the laptop, nothing happens. Is it not possible to connect to the laptop or am I needing to click something?
I googled and youtubed but couldn't find anything related to the thrill and a laptop.
Thanks in advance.
Are you sure its an input, not an output? I have never heard of a laptop with a HDMI input, usually you want to put your laptop onto a big TV, instead of putting a peripheral onto a laptop screen.
The Thrill plays extremely nice with my 1080p Vizio. Netflix looks better using a HDMI cable and phone vs the native Netflix app on my TV. But, that might be because my phone consistently gets twice the bandwidth my home connection does.
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Oh I don't know. It's a port that's labeled HDMI. I just assumed it was an input. Okay, so is there anyway to run the HDMI to the laptop or is it pretty much a TV thing?
Maybe it could be done with special software. I also have a laptop with a HDMI port. I could not find anything remotely close to an option to turn that into an input through the Windows (W 7 64 bit ultimate) settings.
I also did a few Google searches about using a laptops HDMI port for input, and the resounding response I found was that its basically unheard of. They make special adapters for that, the run over USB. The "worlds first" laptop to natively support this feature came out less than a year ago.
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quarlow said:
Are you sure its an input, not an output? I have never heard of a laptop with a HDMI input, usually you want to put your laptop onto a big TV, instead of putting a peripheral onto a laptop screen.
The Thrill plays extremely nice with my 1080p Vizio. Netflix looks better using a HDMI cable and phone vs the native Netflix app on my TV. But, that might be because my phone consistently gets twice the bandwidth my home connection does.
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It's not possible to turn your output into an input. It's a hardware limitation.
in this day and age why hell don't they make the laptop screen work like an optional monitor with most new devices being digital HD it should only add little to the cost.
Ok Speaking from hardware side
Ok I work for a large Semiconductor manufacture. That HDMI port is an output. In order to use your Laptop display try to find a TV Tuner for you laptop with HDMI inputs. They maybe hard to find if at all, and if you do find them they will be pricey.
Good Luck
colbur87 said:
It's not possible to turn your output into an input. It's a hardware limitation.
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This is not exactly true...
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yoneilio said:
This is not exactly true...
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Depends. If the hardware doesnt allow for it then it wouldnt be possible on a software level. I assume thats what he meant. Of course with enough know how you could probably make changes on a hardware level to allow for it.

[Video] Galaxy Note 2 Connectivity demo. Get comfy, its looong!

Its here! The connectivity demo to end all connectivity demos - see what your Note 2 can do! Any questions feel free to ask
Make sure to use the time-stamped navigation links in the video description to get around.
Gear used in the video:
USB OTG cable
Externally powered USB hub (i-Rocks one)
Logitech K400 wireless USB keyboard/mouse combo
Xbox 360 for Windows controller
MHL adapter for Note 2
AllShare Cast Dongle
Datel Retro Wireless Controller - not available any longer as far as I can tell - keep an eye on Amazon and Ebay as it still appears there sometimes
Logitech "For Android" bluetooth keyboard
Logitech "For Android" bluetooth mouse (note that any HID profile bluetooth mouse should work)
Seagate GoFlex Satellite drive
Apps: N64oid, FPse, MX Player, Bubble UPnP, Wind Up Knight, USB/BT Joystick Centre
Beastwars bandcamp page - beastwars.bandcamp.com stream the whole album and purchase there with all proceeds going to the band!
Got to run now, but will add links to places to get some of the stuff a bit later on.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time you put in to show off all these cool features. I'm still waiting on Verizon to release the Note 2 unfortunetly. When using the Allshare dongle does the multi-screen feature work. For example could you watch Netflix and browse the web, and if so is it smooth. Thanks again for the video.
Oh, not tried it to be honest! Can't believe that slipped my mind, I will test it later and let you know.
Can someone please sticky this
very good video mate, amazing phone when you think about it!
ratcom said:
very good video mate, amazing phone when you think about it!
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Thanks dude!
...and yes, pretty amazing what these smartphones will do these days!
Totally second this post being stickied
NZtechfreak said:
Oh, not tried it to be honest! Can't believe that slipped my mind, I will test it later and let you know.
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Thanks, and I'll third that sticky.
clemson91 said:
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time you put in to show off all these cool features. I'm still waiting on Verizon to release the Note 2 unfortunetly. When using the Allshare dongle does the multi-screen feature work. For example could you watch Netflix and browse the web, and if so is it smooth. Thanks again for the video.
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OK, tried it, but whenever you watch video it full-screens the video to the external display (it is still split screen on the device and you can interact with the other window, but I don't think that is what you were after?).
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Thanks, and I'll third that sticky.
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I think technically you would be seconding it, since I'm probably biased
is it possible to connect MHL adapter to USB hub (using a converter from 11pin microUSB to USB, if such thing does exists) so we can use HDTV mirroring and USB OTG simultaneously?
azhurvadal said:
is it possible to connect MHL adapter to USB hub (using a converter from 11pin microUSB to USB, if such thing does exists) so we can use HDTV mirroring and USB OTG simultaneously?
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No, it looks like the Smart Dock for the Note 2 will allow for both simultaneously though.
Best video I have seen all day
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NZtechfreak said:
OK, tried it, but whenever you watch video it full-screens the video to the external display (it is still split screen on the device and you can interact with the other window, but I don't think that is what you were after?).
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Oh that actually sounds pretty nice being able to stream video(hopefully Netflix) to the TV, and still browse on the phone. I was actually kinda hoping there would be a way to do exactly what you said it does. Thanks for trying that out, the days till they release it on Verizon are slowing down even more now.
clemson91 said:
Oh that actually sounds pretty nice being able to stream video(hopefully Netflix) to the TV, and still browse on the phone. I was actually kinda hoping there would be a way to do exactly what you said it does. Thanks for trying that out, the days till they release it on Verizon are slowing down even more now.
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OK, cool!
I thought you wanted kinda a picture in picture/split screen deal on the TV, but even better if this was what you were after.
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Best video I have seen all day
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Thanks! Makes it all worthwhile
Had some requests via PM for information on pairing with PS3 controllers using OTG cables instead of the method that requires a PC, so thought I would post a link to this for those people and others:
What ROM are you used??
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Princetan said:
What ROM are you used??
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Pure stock with Root.
Using Nova Launcher with dock icons from ADW WP7 theme.
Is there a specific otg usb cable for the Note 2, more specifically t889 ? I had been searching every scenario , 5 pin, t889, etc. and can't find any that specifically mention for the Note 2. Meanwhile, I read posts and comments about people connecting the wrong usb otg and bricking their phone. What are you using? Thanks~
lyinelriche said:
Is there a specific otg usb cable for the Note 2, more specifically t889 ? I had been searching every scenario , 5 pin, t889, etc. and can't find any that specifically mention for the Note 2. Meanwhile, I read posts and comments about people connecting the wrong usb otg and bricking their phone. What are you using? Thanks~
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No, no specific cable, any USB OTG cable should work fine. Never ever heard of anyone bricking a device using a USB OTG cable - do you have links for these posts? I have to wonder what those people were doing if their phones bricked...

Why get this

Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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derrickmd18 said:
Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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As of right now, if you can find an android stick for 35 bucks with the horsepower to play HD netflix, and stream HD content from the net, then there really is no reason. Right now it is very limited, but since I got in on the netflix deal it only cost 11 bucks so it's well worth it to wait and see.
The only thing you're really losing with other sticks(assuming you get a good one), is the Chrome tab share. that's about all I'm using mine for right now.
I think shortly it will be a bit more useful in that it will be integrated with many other apps that you can use your phone as a controller and send video and other content to chromecast, but still a lot of that you can do with some setup on a decent android.
I'll re-iterate that you need to make sure you find a stick that can handle 1080p high def video playback or you really are wasting your money.
The big advantage for me is ease of use. It's much easier to search using the touchscreen on my phone and tap the cast button than to navigate a touchscreen interface using a wireless keyboard to pick out something to watch.
derrickmd18 said:
Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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The biggest reason if it is really easy to use if you have an Android phone/tablet and nothing else is 35 bucks or less. Even if nothing else is added, being able to easily cast a YouTube/Netflix video from my phone is worth 35 bucks to me.
Since Google blocked 3rd party apps recently, I think bigger "traditional media" like HBO Go and Hulu+ will release support for their apps so it will make it more useful soon.
Here's one reason: The dog no longer trips over the HDMI cable.
TabGuy said:
Here's one reason: The dog no longer trips over the HDMI cable.
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Yeah instead he trips over the usb cable.
derrickmd18 said:
Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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It fits in your pocket and only costs $35 for a new tech gadget and costs less than a wireless keyboard.
If you don't know why to buy it then save your $35 or check out the listed features on Google play and see if it helps your mission.
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I love the fact that my friends can just play youtube videos from their phone without any setup. We have a blast using this feature. As long as they are on your home network they don't need to setup anything to play videos.
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Yeah instead he trips over the usb cable.
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Uh, no. The USB cable is in back of the TV. The HDMI cable went from the TV to the laptop on the couch.
TabGuy said:
Uh, no. The USB cable is in back of the TV. The HDMI cable went from the TV to the laptop on the couch.
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AHH but the OP was asking why he'd buy this over an android stick.
Price + Google = popular

anyone here have chromecast?

im thinking about getting one when i go pick up a nexus 7 today. is it just a mirroring device?
It is not a mirroring device. It allows you to stream content from supported services, using your device as a remote control. In other words... if you send a YouTube or Netflix video to it from your handset, the ChromeCast actually connects to YouTube or Netflix and starts streaming.
Solutions Etcetera said:
It is not a mirroring device. It allows you to stream content from supported services, using your device as a remote control. In other words... if you send a YouTube or Netflix video to it from your handset, the ChromeCast actually connects to YouTube or Netflix and starts streaming.
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I probably won't use it then being as I have a ps3 for all of that
If you already have some equivalent of a home theater PC, a Chromecast is a little redundant.
I love mine, though - it basically gives me a HTPC in a tiny, low power device that I can unplug and take with me traveling.
It appears that Google has put some hooks into Android 4.4.2 that may support screen mirroring in the future, though.
Actually it can mirror the chrome browser on the PC or Mac. I will assume HBO go has an app coming and plex is semi supported (will be fully in a month or two I'd guess)
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I have one. Its just nice using your phone or tablet to control everything instead of some other ui. Though I got it when it came with 3 months Netflix so it was basically $10.
Sadly it doesn't support a lot of services yet like a full htpc does but it has a lot of potential.
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Actually it can mirror the chrome browser on the PC or Mac. I will assume HBO go has an app coming and plex is semi supported (will be fully in a month or two I'd guess)
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Actually HBO Go is now supported so this thing is awesome!!
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Yes, HBO GO is awesome. So much more content than "On Demand" through cable / satellite providers.
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Actually HBO Go is now supported so this thing is awesome!!
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ahhh. I am getting my chromecast in a few weeks, just haven't gotten any apps for it yet. glad HBOgo is supported now!
I have one and barely use it but it is pretty cool, kinda a novelty. Say someone is telling you about something on youtube and you are by your tv and want everyone in the room to see it, just cast it to the tv and there it is.
I have one but I really didn't use it that much because it lacked the ability to cast local data. Now that it can it has much more purpose. Android mirroring is in the works from what I've read which is pretty cool.
I tried to explain a chromecast to someone and said it's similar to a wireless HDMI cable. It's perfect for me since I can take it to work and do training in one big swoop as opposed to having my shift sit down at a computer one at a time and hope they actually do what I told them to do.
I use it almost daily, stream my hbo go, and comcast, hulu and other things to it. There is rumor that it will we getting device mirroring in the near future as someone found some code relating to it in 4.4 kit kat.
I just got one a few days ago, after the Plex update, since I needed it for media center streaming.
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I have a Chromecast that I use on the small TV in my bedroom. I like it better than the Roku I used to have in there, and it's more useful (Roku, as far as I know, won't stream Google Music, and I use my TV as my speakers in the bedroom). I recently downloaded Real Cloud, because I think you can cast videos from any of your devices with the app on it - so I want to see if I can install the app on my laptop where I have some movies and cast them to the TV using the Android app.
sicmadek said:
I probably won't use it then being as I have a ps3 for all of that
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It works way better than PS3 for streaming services and uses a very small amount of power. PS3 is a waste of energy for netflix and what not.
I haven't found any other way to stream Google Play Music All Access (without plugging in), and it's actually pretty great for that purpose alone. Play/Pause, Prev/Next, and volume control, all wirelessly from the phone.
I actually just picked up a second one since I had a $25 credit at Amazon, and they are selling them for $32 with free 2nd day shipping with Prime. Cost me $7 out the door, and landed on my porch 2 days later.
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I haven't found any other way to stream Google Play Music All Access (without plugging in), and it's actually pretty great for that purpose alone. Play/Pause, Prev/Next, and volume control, all wirelessly from the phone.
I actually just picked up a second one since I had a $25 credit at Amazon, and they are selling them for $32 with free 2nd day shipping with Prime. Cost me $7 out the door, and landed on my porch 2 days later.
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being a parent, having netflix is awesome. and, since we watch zero adult programming, hulu is awesome too. so i have 4 as it works as a perfect replacement for a PS3/HTPC, etc solution - especially where you can't have one of those devices (or multiple devices).
i just disconnected my htpc from the main TV because support on a few items were starting to get scarce. i have my Cc plugged in now instead. the only drawback is its less convenient to stream media from my local drive. i wish there was an easy solution. Real Cloud makes it sound liek you have to upload the media first.
640k said:
being a parent, having netflix is awesome. and, since we watch zero adult programming, hulu is awesome too. so i have 4 as it works as a perfect replacement for a PS3/HTPC, etc solution - especially where you can't have one of those devices (or multiple devices).
i just disconnected my htpc from the main TV because support on a few items were starting to get scarce. i have my Cc plugged in now instead. the only drawback is its less convenient to stream media from my local drive. i wish there was an easy solution. Real Cloud makes it sound liek you have to upload the media first.
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I just use WiFi Direct on my phone and it 'flick' over a YouTube video and it works great. I guess the Chromecast is for people without a Smart TV?
RyanTX said:
I just use WiFi Direct on my phone and it 'flick' over a YouTube video and it works great. I guess the Chromecast is for people without a Smart TV?
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i don't have a single TV in my house with WiFi.
640k said:
being a parent, having netflix is awesome. and, since we watch zero adult programming, hulu is awesome too. so i have 4 as it works as a perfect replacement for a PS3/HTPC, etc solution - especially where you can't have one of those devices (or multiple devices).
i just disconnected my htpc from the main TV because support on a few items were starting to get scarce. i have my Cc plugged in now instead. the only drawback is its less convenient to stream media from my local drive. i wish there was an easy solution. Real Cloud makes it sound liek you have to upload the media first.
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I think you can stream from any device that has the app installed on it. I'm going to install the app on my computer tonight and see if that's the case, or if I have to upload.

Enable HDMI CEC?

Hey guys, I have two TVs that don't seem to have HDMI cec so it wont turn on my TV or switch inputs. One is fairly old and a new one is a Westinghouse so I guess it was to cheap to have it. I was wondering if there was some kind of adapter to enable cec on non cec TVs?
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r.storm85 said:
Hey guys, I have two TVs that don't seem to have HDMI cec so it wont turn on my TV or switch inputs. One is fairly old and a new one is a Westinghouse so I guess it was to cheap to have it. I was wondering if there was some kind of adapter to enable cec on non cec TVs?
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If you give us the make and model of your TVs then maybe we can determine for sure if they do or don't
While it's technically possible if you had some kind of HDMI interpreter/sniffer for the CEC commands and a variety of home-automation mechanisms for handling the necessary IR blasting, short answer is you're extremely unlikely to see this as a commodity-produced product, or even as a small-production product.
It's far easier and more economical to get a newer TV that supports CEC, so there's little market for such a device.
Well the old one is a 40" Rca that is about 4 years old, not sure the model. And the new one is a 40 inch westinghouse dwm40f1g1
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r.storm85 said:
Well the old one is a 40" Rca that is about 4 years old, not sure the model. And the new one is a 40 inch westinghouse dwm40f1g1
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Page 12 of your Westinghouse's manual seems to at least say they're aware HDMI can carry control.
HDMI plug which replaces the HDMI connection allows transfer of all audio/video/control signals through one cable only.
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Then again, there's obviously a mistake there with the HDMI replacing... HDMI, so confidence is a little shaken, heh.
You are using wall power for the Chromecast, rather than the TV's USB port, right?
Not going to find anything that will enable HDMI-CEC as it is has much to do with the wiring of the HDMI port and Internal circuitry.
Even if you found a device to convert CEC into an IR blast it would only work if the CCast was plugged into it which would be a waste of money just to get a Chromecast to turn on a TV.
If your going to spend that kind of money go get a full IR over IP Blaster for the whole system which should come with a control panel you can use on your Tablet as well. (either via App or HTML)
Much better investment if you ask me.
I should point out though that the price of a IR over IP blaster is almost half what a typical 40" TV with HDMI-CEC goes for! LOL
Ya using the wall power.
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Asphyx said:
I should point out though that the price of a IR over IP blaster is almost half what a typical 40" TV with HDMI-CEC goes for! LOL
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Yup, add the time required to configure (or pay someone) and you're at a new TV. But everyone's time is worth different amounts to them.
Me, I'd probably gift the old TV to relatives.
bhiga said:
Yup, add the time required to configure (or pay someone) and you're at a new TV. But everyone's time is worth different amounts to them.
Me, I'd probably gift the old TV to relatives.
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Yes but if the IR blaster is set up the right way you can have loads of fun scaring the hell out of Babysitters and Maids who are slacking off and Watching your TV when they should be dusting! LOL
Fun for the Whole Family!

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