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[Q] 4x haters only ;) important flaws

Hi
I know what I like about this handset.
What I want to know [as being more informative to me] what is not to like about this one.
I'm planning to buy it with contract and use it for another 2 years.
So I'm asking for opinion of these of you that don't change phones every quarter and think about annoyances in long shot.
My highlights:
Most worrying info I have found about this handset is:
A) music reproduction is poor [as on gsmarena] - is there any other review that uses synthetic test? [I use phone to listen to a music for 5h a day]
B) no notification LED - never had phone without it, how big pain is it? [I know about noLED app, it MAY drain battery]
C) fairly often on holidays I take film shoots of people, is rubbish focus still an issue or was it fixed, or is fixed with custom ROM [I'll head to andro development once I'll finish this post ]
Handset will be bought in UK.
thanks for any info
please keep your post as negative as possible ))):angel:

this post'd better be in the general discussion session if you want good responses. Otherwise dont hold your breath because this phone is apparently not selling well at all, so no point putting it here.

Hey,
About the music, I think there is nothing wrong with it. I think it depends more on your headset. And dsp manager helps a lot .
About camera, it's an excellent camera in good light and in bad light it isn't that bad only there is some noise in pictures taken in bad light condition.
Hope this helps.

muzamal said:
Hey,
About the music, I think there is nothing wrong with it. I think it depends more on your headset. And dsp manager helps a lot .
About camera, it's an excellent camera in good light and in bad light it isn't that bad only there is some noise in pictures taken in bad light condition.
Hope this helps.
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Have you tried even switching to video recording mode in partly lit room? Room is good enough to read but not good enough for this crap phone to record video.
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There's no custom Roms. Bootloader is locked and no way to unlock it. Battery life is not that good. Phone gets hot. If the first two get fixed at any time, the last will most likely be fixed by custom Roms.
Notification via key LED works quite well.
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Notification via key led? How?
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muellersmattes said:
There's no custom Roms. Bootloader is locked and no way to unlock it. Battery life is not that good. Phone gets hot. If the first two get fixed at any time, the last will most likely be fixed by custom Roms.
Notification via key LED works quite well.
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I can imagine that LED that lit soft buttons is being used by noLED application - smart if true. Why "quite well" not "very well" ?
I realize that putting question about sound Q in poll is subjective, but I keep in mind gsmarena results too.
Yes I went to 'development' and noticed that there is no custom ROM, but also this is fairly new phone... anyway I'm on PAYG for next 3 or 7 or 11 weeks and waiting for better news about LG or better price of S3 [17.50pm vs 22.50pm on mobiles]
I have also read that all phones get hot to some extent

face-t said:
I can imagine that LED that lit soft buttons is being used by noLED application - smart if true. Why "quite well" not "very well" ?
I realize that putting question about sound Q in poll is subjective, but I keep in mind gsmarena results too.
Yes I went to 'development' and noticed that there is no custom ROM, but also this is fairly new phone... anyway I'm on PAYG for next 3 or 7 or 11 weeks and waiting for better news about LG or better price of S3 [17.50pm vs 22.50pm on mobiles]
I have also read that all phones get hot to some extent
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It's not the NoLed app, but there's the LG Notification app linked in the Themes & Apps section. As you guessed right it uses the LED that lights the buttons. Can be set up to different events and blinking frequencies and stuff, it takes a while to set it up. That's why i wrote "quite well". It's not out-of-the-box, but if you set it right, it works "very well", at least for me. Of course it can only do what the LED supports, so it's only white light and no fading.

Is the video focus issue solved with an update? I didn't see it on lists of the changes on the updates, maybe i missed it. With which update was it solved?

I am most upset by the sound quality of the phone speaker as it is at the back of the phone so miss a lot of incoming calls if you put you phone in your pocket even though volumn set to highest!. It sucks when you use the speaker phone during a call. Same problem for the the alarm, it is not loud enough unless you place it with the back facing up

Lepanto said:
Is the video focus issue solved with an update? I didn't see it on lists of the changes on the updates, maybe i missed it. With which update was it solved?
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Video focus bug has been fixed since v10c.
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Yeah but there is now an issue with the exposure in a dark, or slightly dark, area. It's way underexposed.

upset bootlocker locked. thus still no custom to make device better.

xkill3rprox said:
Video focus bug has been fixed since v10c.
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Thanks for answer.

NO!
muellersmattes said:
There's no custom Roms. Bootloader is locked and no way to unlock it. Battery life is not that good. Phone gets hot. If the first two get fixed at any time, the last will most likely be fixed by custom Roms.
Notification via key LED works quite well.
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There is a way to unlock the bootloader, we just havent figured it out yet. There might even be a solution before the end of september.

alekthefirst said:
There is a way to unlock the bootloader, we just havent figured it out yet. There might even be a solution before the end of september.
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there might be a ways to root it, but i doubt that unlocking bootloader will be possible (not that i know too much about it)

m4rkiz said:
there might be a ways to root it, but i doubt that unlocking bootloader will be possible (not that i know too much about it)
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I dont know about this stuff either, but i read about this app that unlocks the bootloader on verizon galaxy s3. If there is any way to do this for our phone, it would be awesome.
Damn xda won't let me post links, but check "VZW GS3 EZ-Unlock" on google play.

I just now figured out it cannot do USB-OTG although all other new phones can. Dealbreaker!
VOIP / SIP is cut away although it is standard in ICS. Thanks LG!
Touchscreen does not work well under extreme situations / when capacitively loaded (cold wind, charger connected, litte moisture, etc.)
Although the GNSS chipset can do GLONASS it is switched off can only do GPS. Thanks LG!
When videochatting on SKYPE ( if it runs properly at all ) and charger is connected, still the battery drains ! The charger is not able to supply enough power when the whole system is running at max consumption. WTF ? Absolute no go ! Another Dealbreaker !
No open Bootloader! I did not know this. I'm new to android. I thought that rooting is everything. Crap...
Well meanwhile I have had the phone for 2 months, most probably I will not sell it back. I hope the bootloader is somehow opened and there will be a better ROM..

Adding "Durr" - like functionality to the Galaxy Gear

Hi folks! Sorry if I'm posting the wrong thing in the wrong place at the wrong time, as it often happens too n00bs on such structured forums as XDA's. Please move/mark this post as you see fit if it goes against the guidelines.
I have recently stumbled upon skreksto.re -> products -> durr The Faceless Watch, which immediately seemed to me like an insanely useful accessory, especially for those who sometimes struggle keeping track of time. All it basically does is vibrate at 5 minute intervals in order to challenge your perception of time. :cyclops: There is an article on The Verge which also discusses the Durr, exploring the "Faceless Watch" in more detail. There is already an [apparently, pretty buggy :silly: ] app for the Pebble Watch, which emulates the same functionality. I couldn't help but wonder if you awesome XDA folks could be interested in making a program which would add that functionality to the Galaxy Gear. (and, due to the nature of the GGear, such a program could probably run on any android device, given its very minimal requirements).
I am not experienced with Android programming, so it would take me ages to do this on my own - and even then the end result would probably not be very usable. That being so, I decided to come to the experts to see what they [as in, you] would advise - and if anyone can spare a minute and some lines of code - we can do this
So... Please, Advise!
Cheers

sounds like super easy things to put together in 15 minutes, but i see absolutely no use for it.

hurdlejade said:
sounds like super easy things to put together in 15 minutes, but i see absolutely no use for it.
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I have to say, I wouldn't normally have found the idea useful, either. Problem is, I can't post links yet - otherwise I'd point you to the video and review which I have looked at. Either way, it may still not have been something you would want on your wrist - i guess that is personal. but I'd like to ask people to search google for Durr and, if nobody at all likes the idea, I'll make do myself. Otherwise, we may have a 15 min project

I could maybe make a tasker app? not sure though
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ktetreault14 said:
I could maybe make a tasker app? not sure though
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Hi, thank you very much for reply! :victory: That would be a really great start! Then all one would need is the ability to exit said mode. :good:
If you decide to pick up this little project, feel free to delegate tasks to me. I'd learn a lot from something like that. Do you use a Gear?

This is possible, although this wouldn't be used in a all day type scenario would it ? It wouldn't be very battery efficient otherwise.
I find this useful perhaps while public speaking or something along those lines where you want to track your time real time in discretion.
This is definitely possible using tasker without a doubt. Although as I said, will only be useful if used for short intervals.. otherwise quite simply your gear's battery will die.
A better option would be a hard coded lightweight application that would run in the background..

fOmey said:
This is possible, although this wouldn't be used in a all day type scenario would it ? It wouldn't be very battery efficient otherwise.
I find this useful perhaps while public speaking or something along those lines where you want to track your time real time in discretion.
This is definitely possible using tasker without a doubt. Although as I said, will only be useful if used for short intervals.. otherwise quite simply your gear's battery will die.
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Awesome! :fingers-crossed:
Definitely not for running all day. However, the way I envision benefiting from it is by allowing it to run while doing something unproductive (fb/twitter/random article/picture of a cat) - in order to not allow a 5 min read become something more.
As for public speaking - although I had not thought of such before your post (nor was it mentioned in the original Durr article), this could possibly be among the best applications for such a gadget.
Thanks a lot for replying :good: :laugh:

wilsonmc said:
Hi, thank you very much for reply! :victory: That would be a really great start! Then all one would need is the ability to exit said mode. :good:
If you decide to pick up this little project, feel free to delegate tasks to me. I'd learn a lot from something like that. Do you use a Gear?
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Yes, I am a Nullified Gear Owner since December 25. @fOmey would you be able to code a light app such as this? I have no idea. Lol
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@fOmey Speaking of NULLified ROMs, I will try to flash it on my Gear soon [again]. I suppose this would make the tasker app easier to use also. I had tried the NULL ROM [flashed using ODIN] some time ago, but had a problem with the device freezing. Do you think I should try it with Heimdall?

So, basically you want an app that vibrates (for say 1 sec) every 5 minutes? And maybe with an on/off feature?
I could get you that within some hours, depends when I can get the kids in bed

st-tps said:
So, basically you want an app that vibrates (for say 1 sec) every 5 minutes? And maybe with an on/off feature?
I could get you that within some hours, depends when I can get the kids in bed
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:victory: Hahaha wow that is awesome! I hope your kids are feeling really sleepy
Please tell me if i can help (did I just offer to help you help me?)

wilsonmc said:
:victory: Hahaha wow that is awesome! I hope your kids are feeling really sleepy
Please tell me if i can help (did I just offer to help you help me?)
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You can help with the beta testing
Should it be a vibrate pattern or just a 1sec long static durr?

st-tps said:
You can help with the beta testing
Should it be a vibrate pattern or just a 1sec long static durr?
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Thank you! Really! I reckon 1 second is too much, how about 1/3? Or 1/3[vibrate] -> 1/3[pause] -> 1/3[vibrate]

wilsonmc said:
Thank you! Really! I reckon 1 second is too much, how about 1/3? Or 1/3[vibrate] -> 1/3[pause] -> 1/3[vibrate]
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It´s up to you I´ll try something out and then we can change it
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It´s up to you I´ll try something out and then we can change it
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Oki., got the function working now.
WIll just add a simple On/Off function and then it´s online... Hold on!

Just an idea:
Every time the vibration is different so as to recognise the time without looking.
05= 1/3 second vibration
10= 1/2 and then 1/3
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35= 3 x 1/2 + 1/3
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50= 5 x 1/2 seconds.
Different profiles = different custom vibration patterns!

st-tps said:
It´s up to you I´ll try something out and then we can change it
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Oki., got the function working now.
WIll just add a simple On/Off function and then it´s online... Hold on!
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Wow! You rock! :good:

Oki, here it is, pure and simple.
This first release is only working as a timer, so no connection to the actual time.
So from the moment you tap the settings to "On" it will do a 300+300ms vibrate every 5 min until you tap it to "Off" again.
So if you want it synced with the clock, be sure to tap the "On" setting on an even 5 minute
Try it out and we can develop further later on...
Download: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9508466/VibrateWatch_v01b.apk

st-tps said:
Oki, here it is, pure and simple.
This first release is only working as a timer, so no connection to the actual time.
So from the moment you tap the settings to "On" it will do a 300+300ms vibrate every 5 min until you tap it to "Off" again.
So if you want it synced with the clock, be sure to tap the "On" setting on an even 5 minute
Try it out and we can develop further later on...
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Thanks for this, I'll be sure to test it soon. I do a lot of public speaking so I love the idea of having it vibrate at set times as I often find myself checking my watch to keep track of time. I'd be willing to send some compensation your way if you could get it to work like a simple notification system. Vibrate in that pattern at pre-set times, for example, after 20 minutes, after 40 minutes and after 45 minutes from the time it starts.
This would help me a lot.

Hterag said:
Thanks for this. I'll be sure to test it soon and I do a lot fo public speaking so I love the idea of having it vibrate at set times as I often find myself checking my watch to keep track of time. I'd be willing to send some compensation your way if you could get it to work sort of like a simple notification system. Vibrate in that pattern at pre-set times, for example, after 20 minutes, after 40 minutes and after 45 minutes from the time it starts.
This would help me a lot.
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I like starting up new projects so I can surely work something out.
I´m building the feature now that starts the vibrate at the actual time and not just as a timer.
We´ll see what I do next.

st-tps said:
I like starting up new projects so I can surely work something out.
I´m building the feature now that starts the vibrate at the actual time and not just as a timer.
We´ll see what I do next.
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Good job tps.. bravo.

Nexus 6 Notifications

One of my last hang ups on getting the Nexus 6 is how it will handle notifications. I know it will have Ambient Display, but from what I have been able to read, its not going to pulse like the Active Display of the normal Moto phones. Has anyone seen how the Nexus 6 will handle notifications yet?

This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, i keep checking all the unboxing and first hands on video and reviews
and they just keep talking about the size, specs and camera, i might have to pass on this nexus if it doesn't pulse in some form, i just can always keep picking up my phone check for a message.

Yep. If it doesn't pulse or blink or something, it will be a poor choice. Knowing you have a notification from across the room or in a dark room, is one of the things I like about 95% of Android phones.
The last phone I had without an LED light was the GS2, and I had to use other means.

It seems like such a simple request for anyone with the phone to check as well. Every unboxing and first impressions video I have watched (far too many) have all said that "it has moto x like notifications and that's a good thing" but every time they show the settings it doesn't indicate that it pulses or breathes. I was hoping that DL would have answered this question when they got their test units, but even they haven't yet.

I'm pretty sure Google knows it's silly to send a visible notification only once. I'm confident they've incorporated some form of pulse or renotification of some kind. Fingers crossed

In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.

Dr Faustus said:
In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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Its definitely not the end of the world. I'm not being dramatic and condemning the phone if it doesn't have it. Just looking for an answer to what I hope Google realizes is a basic need. I've been rooting and roming since the OG Droid days here so I know what XDA can do, I just don't believe this is a feature that I should need to rely on the Devs here to create.

First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.

Nickcu13 said:
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
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Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3

20degrees said:
Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3
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Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.

ABOsborn20 said:
Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
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The battery on the G watch is really great actually.
And if you don't want Android wear, don't buy it. But that's where Google is going so some features that used to be present on phones that aren't as necessary now will potentially be removed.

Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.

ECrispy said:
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?

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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.

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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...

Does anyone know if it has the IR sensors on the screen to wake the display up with a hand gesture just like it happens on the Moto X?

dualityim said:
Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
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Yes. It's in the comments, the author replied to a question about Active Display.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display

ABOsborn20 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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Seems very unreliable, he had to try multiple times. Also why is pick up to activate so unreliable?
I really wish they'd copied the Moto version and added the sensors.

this seems like it will just nuke the battery in comparison to an LED.... I may end up just leaving this off.
won't this turn on constantly in a pocket as well?

Replacement = Even more problems.

Had a n6 with half purple screen and had it exchanged.
This new one is horrible ..
It seems to get really warm compared to the other and when it does, boy does it lag. Just typing this out, it's lagging.
I also noticed that my Bluetooth has "silence" spots while listening to music. Every 2-3 minutes, it will stop for a split second like it can't buffer, even if the music is on the device.
Another thing that may just be me, it seems the keyboard doesn't predict as well, like it's not even touching the keys I'm swiping.
Lastly, half the screen is white and half is a really yellow color. Very irritated by this device. Makes me want to throw it against a wall.

Your first problem can be resolved by using a custom kernel that does not use mpdecision. Mpdecision is known to be power inefficient and sends your CPU to be sitting in wasteful frequencies causing your phone to generate additional heat. My phone became really warm with mpdecision on.
Secondly, I don't use bluetooth so I can't comment.
Third. That isn't a N6 problem, its a problem with the software of the keyboard application that you're using. SwiftKey works great for me.
Fourth, can't really comment on that. My screen looks good, your phone should be uniformly the same color, you can try changing RGB and see if it would do anything. I recommend turning off adaptive brightness.

Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.

20degrees said:
Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.
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If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.

This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?

If you are having those problems on stock, and don't want to root/etc, then your only option is to return it again. Pretty simple.
If you are looking for confirmation that your experience isn't 'normal' on the stock phone, I can confirm it is not.

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This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?
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I'm not trying to argue at all I was just curious. I would have the phone replaced if you want to gave those issues fixed without modifying the phone. Best of luck with the issues because it's not fun when you can't fix them.

Pilz said:
If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.
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I scratch my head also. XDA is a developer's forum. There are tons of other sites more suitable to those not wanting to root/ROM it up.

Sounds good. Let's discuss dbrand skins and the such.
I doubt this has anything to do with memory leaks or anything that's been discussed on lollipop.

I'd say you have a faulty SOC and I would replace it. My wife had similar issues on an S5 where it would stutter and fall behind almost and get warm. The icing on the cake was while taking video, normal 1080p video, and it would drop frames like crazy. Maybe 22fps or so was al, it was getting.

I actually agree with 20degrees on this one... There are tons of non development/customization threads on here, and XDA has a pretty knowledgeable user base so it is a convenient one stop shop for info.
People just need to ignore/keep their comments to themselves in the Q&A and general sections if they have nothing constructive to add to the topic of the thread.

DPI Problems and unlocked bootloader annoying screen

I tried using easy dpi changer and texdroider and no matter what DPI i change to, my screen gets no effect. only apps and everything but my home screens. is there a way that my home screens could get smaller so i can add more icons. i used to do it this way on my nexus 5
Also, i had a question about the nagging screen after unlocking my bootloader. i tried searching but i see there is no work around yet. does this thing annoy guys as much as me? lol

peach007 said:
I tried using easy dpi changer and texdroider and no matter what DPI i change to, my screen gets no effect. only apps and everything but my home screens. is there a way that my home screens could get smaller so i can add more icons. i used to do it this way on my nexus 5
Also, i had a question about the nagging screen after unlocking my bootloader. i tried searching but i see there is no work around yet. does this thing annoy guys as much as me? lol
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The news (I looked into it) isn't that great. It's a part of the bootloader code itself, lives in a file called boot.c (somewhere along this path $source/bootable/bootloader/../../*/boot.c) and although it "could" be changed inside the file, there are many checks in that file, so it's not trivial. Then a full compile of the ROM (or at least the bootloader since it's a "bootable" ) which for me, is a lengthy process, and you have a dodgy bootloader that could easily put an end to your booting days (for awhile), so it's not clear to me that this is worthwhile unless you're putting out a custom ROM, give a damn, and want to make that part of the upkeep for your ROM.
I figure that when AOSP ROMs show up, (I think it took over 2 months after oneplus 3 came out for cm13 to come along), then that would be a good time to rethink it. I've hit the point where I just do as the message says and skip it by hitting the power button once. ;

I ended up somehow making my screen smaller but had to change DPI to 400. Anything less and it wouldn't work. I prefer 360 but 400 not bad on 5.5" screen.
Yea I just click the power button until it boots lol.
Can't wait for a nougat release for the 3T. I'm anxious for it.
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peach007 said:
I ended up somehow making my screen smaller but had to change DPI to 400. Anything less and it wouldn't work. I prefer 360 but 400 not bad on 5.5" screen.
Yea I just click the power button until it boots lol.
Can't wait for a nougat release for the 3T. I'm anxious for it.
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It might be worth asking anyone coming along to do ROM development in the near future if they wouldn't mind modifying that file I mentioned, I think ./bootable/bootloader/*/*/boot.c to dump the text & the 5 second delay. If you're rolling your own, it's not a big deal. I'd also go along with waiting for nougat. I can't really see anyone starting development (aside from the one or two that are already out there) prior to nougat. There is a 3t 14.1 Cm in the works, but not sure when it'll show up here in the dev section.

In You want more icons on Homescreen, just take a different launcher.. For example Nova

Just a quick reminder about the bootloader: It is closed source (although based on the open source base you see in your rom tree), managed and singed by OnePlus so only they can change it. It also is not built when you build a rom, and lives on a seperate partition that is not touched when you do anything reasonable to your phone.
Sorry but you won't get rid of it!

Jo_Jo_2000 said:
Just a quick reminder about the bootloader: It is closed source (although based on the open source base you see in your rom tree), managed and singed by OnePlus so only they can change it. It also is not built when you build a rom, and lives on a seperate partition that is not touched when you do anything reasonable to your phone.
Sorry but you won't get rid of it!
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OH yeah! Of course. I must have had a stroke or something .. ;; ) Not sure how I made that transposition. I've been away from Android development way too long. Thanks for setting that straight. Fortunately for everyone I never went ahead with my idiotic scheme. I may have just been so happy to get the 3.5.3 ROM build working that I got power-crazy. Jeez.
Many thanks.