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Hi all,
I have just bought a Galaxy S on eBay, and it's locked to Three (in the UK btw). Whilst I wait for the unlock code (I'm on an O2 sim only contract), I thought I'd ask people for their advice on whether I should stick to the Three ROM, or should I root it and put a base Samsung ROM on it?
Also - what does this mean for me in terms of upgrades (thinking Froyo obviously). Do I need to get a Three specifics upgrade, and how do I get that if I'm not a Three customer?
I have searched the forum, and read lots of discussions of ROMs, but was hoping for some advice for my situation from any of the hugely experienced peeps on here.
Cheers,
James.
start with the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_Series
it has everything you need to know, including the unlock code
the best advice is to not go crazy on the ROMs unless you want to fix something in specific
Thanks for that. I read that unlock stuff, but unfortunately as I don't have a Three SIM, I can't get onto the market to download the necessary stuff.
I do think it's a bit strange you can't sign into your google account etc over wifi, but figure that's partly how they keep the phone locked to a provider.
James.
that doesn't sounds right
i always unlock and download the rooting stuff over WiFi
i don't even need to use the phone as a mass storage device, because WiFi works right off the bat
what happens when you try to go on the internet using WiFi?
are you able to go to Cnn.com or google.com login to your gmail account in the phone browser?
Hi Allgamer,
thanks for your reply - sorry I've not responded till now!
I could connect to the internet, but not sign into my google account. Don't know what the problem was, but I got round it by performing a factory reset of the phone.
All sorted now.
I do still have an issue with some 3 apps like Skype starting themselves up and consuming resources, despite the fact I can't use them over the O2 network
Loving the phone otherwise though. I've rooted it and installed the OneClickLagFix. Waiting eagerly for Froyo though.
Hi All,
I got the ATIV SE and really like it. Problem is that even though it's unlocked SIM and I have also developer unlocked it, I cannot get internet sharing to turn on. I bought from Verizon, but am using it on T-Mobile. Error is:
To enable tethering on this device, go to Verizon.com or dial *611
What is the best way to get this phone to forget about Verizon? Is there a way to just factory reset to vanilla windows?
Thanks for help
fruehling said:
Hi All,
I got the ATIV SE and really like it. Problem is that even though it's unlocked SIM and I have also developer unlocked it, I cannot get internet sharing to turn on. I bought from Verizon, but am using it on T-Mobile. Error is:
To enable tethering on this device, go to Verizon.com or dial *611
What is the best way to get this phone to forget about Verizon? Is there a way to just factory reset to vanilla windows?
Thanks for help
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I'm not sure but could it be possible that your carrier lock Tethering?
Have you tried an oter csc?
Or can you flash an other ROM`?
Thanks for the reply. No, carrier does not lock. The problem is with the phone being set up to think it's a Verizon phone. Is there a way to flash another rom here? or something like root?
We can interop-unlock Samsung WP8 phones, although if it's fully up-to-date it may need to be downgraded first. I don't know if that will help you, though. I can't tether (well, not over WiFi; wired works) my non-T-Mobile phone on TMo either.
There won't be another CSC to flash... Unless you can get @-W_O_L_F- to help you out with a custom rom....
GoodDayToDie said:
We can interop-unlock Samsung WP8 phones, although if it's fully up-to-date it may need to be downgraded first. I don't know if that will help you, though. I can't tether (well, not over WiFi; wired works) my non-T-Mobile phone on TMo either.
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Sorry for the slow reply. I didn't get notified by this site that there was a reply to my post.
Can you please help me out with how to do this with ATIV SE?
Interop-unlock instructions are in my signature. I don't know if they'll help you though, and if you're on GDR3 (probable) then you'll need to downgrade first (or use a custom ROM) and for that you need to read @-W_O_L_F-'s threads. I don't know if there's a base ROM (non-Verizon) for the SE; if there is you can probably flash that but we may not have one.
If you wanted to know how to do wired tethering, just search for "tether ATIV S". Seriously, #1 rule of this forum is literally "search before posting"
GoodDayToDie said:
Interop-unlock instructions are in my signature. I don't know if they'll help you though, and if you're on GDR3 (probable) then you'll need to downgrade first (or use a custom ROM) and for that you need to read @-W_O_L_F-'s threads. I don't know if there's a base ROM (non-Verizon) for the SE; if there is you can probably flash that but we may not have one.
If you wanted to know how to do wired tethering, just search for "tether ATIV S". Seriously, #1 rule of this forum is literally "search before posting"
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Seriously, thank you for the reply. I did lots of searching, but since ATIV S and SE are quite different, I wasn't sure if anything related to S would work.
I'd love to flash an SE base ROM on this, but I haven't been able to find that there is one.
The MS Store in Bellevue said that they would be getting a Samsung base ROM in a couple months that they would flash onto my device for me. But I'd like to do this sooner.
Should I reach out and read wolf's threads to see about using a custom ROM here then?
Thanks!
fruehling said:
Hi All,
I got the ATIV SE and really like it. Problem is that even though it's unlocked SIM and I have also developer unlocked it, I cannot get internet sharing to turn on. I bought from Verizon, but am using it on T-Mobile. Error is:
To enable tethering on this device, go to Verizon.com or dial *611
What is the best way to get this phone to forget about Verizon? Is there a way to just factory reset to vanilla windows?
Thanks for help
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Try a variation on the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52490701&postcount=5
Worked for the HTC 8x, should work for Samsung as long as you can put in the right model ID. (hint: it's not "dm=Windows%20Phone%208X%20by%20HTC" for your Samsung.) Good luck!
compu829 said:
Try a variation on the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52490701&postcount=5
Worked for the HTC 8x, should work for Samsung as long as you can put in the right model ID. (hint: it's not "dm=Windows%20Phone%208X%20by%20HTC" for your Samsung.) Good luck!
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Thanks for that! The process worked and got me almost there.
Ok! Super progress here. This is what you need to add for the Samsung ATIV SE
// Replace oemId=Samsung with oemId=NOKIA
oSession.PathAndQuery = oSession.PathAndQuery.Replace ("oemId=SAMSUNG", "oemId=NOKIA");
// Replace the device model with the dm for the Nokia 925 (AT&T / North America):
oSession.PathAndQuery = oSession.PathAndQuery.Replace ("dm=ATIV%20SE", "dm=RM-893_nam_att_206");
Note the CAPS for the oemId.
I installed Access Point (along with some other cool Nokia Apps). I went to enable Internet Sharing, but now I have a new message:
Add Internet sharing?
"Your current data plan doesn't include Internet Sharing (it does). Do you want to open an app from your mobile operator to add it? Internet sharing use your cellular data and may incur additional charges."
Any ideas where to go from here? Clicking Yes does nothing. So does clicking no.
fruehling said:
Thanks for that! The process worked and got me almost there.
Ok! Super progress here. This is what you need to add for the Samsung ATIV SE
// Replace oemId=Samsung with oemId=NOKIA
oSession.PathAndQuery = oSession.PathAndQuery.Replace ("oemId=SAMSUNG", "oemId=NOKIA");
// Replace the device model with the dm for the Nokia 925 (AT&T / North America):
oSession.PathAndQuery = oSession.PathAndQuery.Replace ("dm=ATIV%20SE", "dm=RM-893_nam_att_206");
Note the CAPS for the oemId.
I installed Access Point (along with some other cool Nokia Apps). I went to enable Internet Sharing, but now I have a new message:
Add Internet sharing?
"Your current data plan doesn't include Internet Sharing (it does). Do you want to open an app from your mobile operator to add it? Internet sharing use your cellular data and may incur additional charges."
Any ideas where to go from here? Clicking Yes does nothing. So does clicking no.
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At this point, I'd call T-Mobile and see if they can double-check everything on their end. They might need to reprovision your data services. I had a similar issue with my old iPhone when I added the 500MB tethering option.
They do have an "access point" app (I forget what it is called) that comes pre-installed on their phones. (Literally useless, it is so when you click Yes on the "learn more" button" it tells you to call customer care to enable internet sharing. I always delete it off of mine when I restore from stock).
That is another fun trick: to get rid of apps you can't uninstall, set the date and time on your phone to later than 2200 and click on the app...it will tell you that it expired and give you the option to uninstall it!
Let me know how you make out!
fruehling,
Did you ever get this solved? I'm planning on getting this phone too, but for use on At&t. I hope I don't run into the same problem. But I do have some questions to ask you, I hope you don't mind answering....1) Does the voice call works as any unlocked phone? .... 2) Can T-Mobile detect that you're using an ATIV SE? Or does T-Mobile says you have an Unknown device when you check your online account? Thanks!
fruehling said:
Thanks for that! The process worked and got me almost there.
Ok! Super progress here. This is what you need to add for the Samsung ATIV SE
// Replace oemId=Samsung with oemId=NOKIA
oSession.PathAndQuery = oSession.PathAndQuery.Replace ("oemId=SAMSUNG", "oemId=NOKIA");
// Replace the device model with the dm for the Nokia 925 (AT&T / North America):
oSession.PathAndQuery = oSession.PathAndQuery.Replace ("dm=ATIV%20SE", "dm=RM-893_nam_att_206");
Note the CAPS for the oemId.
I installed Access Point (along with some other cool Nokia Apps). I went to enable Internet Sharing, but now I have a new message:
Add Internet sharing?
"Your current data plan doesn't include Internet Sharing (it does). Do you want to open an app from your mobile operator to add it? Internet sharing use your cellular data and may incur additional charges."
Any ideas where to go from here? Clicking Yes does nothing. So does clicking no.
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If you are in Dev Preview.. try the foreign sim trick
if not just install a new keyboard.
I followed the procedure outlined, and using SysAppPusher, it attemped to install "access point" under Microsoft mobile (not Lumia), and from the store, the status changed to "owned". But it didn't actually install it.
I turned off the proxy (as it was recommended) and it still didn't install it. Any idea as to what could be wrong?
I'm on the latest 8.1 release.
So I got my new phone a day AFTER the unlock codes went offline... I've been trying to get support to get me an unlock code, but 2 e-mails and no luck so far. I've got another 3 weeks to return my phone, which I will be doing if I can't get it unlocked by then. I never noticed how much I rely on certain root applications (AdAway for one, since it is a hosts file update that keeps bloat on my phone down and works with pretty much every app).
Some thoughts on unlocking the bootloader - is it feasible to script a fastboot oem unlock <number> that just brute forces through numbers until one works? I might try this later today.
Any methods by talking to the modem directly? (I had a phone a while ago that I could use Qualcomm's tools to directly flash with)
I'm running KingRoot right now, I'm not normally a fan of such tools and so far it's been at 1% for quite some time, so I have little hope it will actually do anything.
I wonder if it might be possible to correlate unlock codes with IMEI from previous unlocks to find a way to generate these for other IMEIs? Of course, this assumes they didn't just make a database that holds a random unlock code for each IMEI.
Hopefully I can get this figured out, I like this phone, but I came from OnePlus before and may end up sending my P20 back and looking at the OnePlus 6 instead.
P-Chan80 said:
So I got my new phone a day AFTER the unlock codes went offline... I've been trying to get support to get me an unlock code, but 2 e-mails and no luck so far. I've got another 3 weeks to return my phone, which I will be doing if I can't get it unlocked by then. I never noticed how much I rely on certain root applications (AdAway for one, since it is a hosts file update that keeps bloat on my phone down and works with pretty much every app).
Some thoughts on unlocking the bootloader - is it feasible to script a fastboot oem unlock <number> that just brute forces through numbers until one works? I might try this later today.
Any methods by talking to the modem directly? (I had a phone a while ago that I could use Qualcomm's tools to directly flash with)
I'm running KingRoot right now, I'm not normally a fan of such tools and so far it's been at 1% for quite some time, so I have little hope it will actually do anything.
I wonder if it might be possible to correlate unlock codes with IMEI from previous unlocks to find a way to generate these for other IMEIs? Of course, this assumes they didn't just make a database that holds a random unlock code for each IMEI.
Hopefully I can get this figured out, I like this phone, but I came from OnePlus before and may end up sending my P20 back and looking at the OnePlus 6 instead.
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Try the Blokada app, free and open source. It also uses host files, including adaway. Needs no root. Get it from their website or f droid.
subhani said:
Try the Blokada app, free and open source. It also uses host files, including adaway. Needs no root. Get it from their website or f droid.
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Sadly, this doesn't block ads on HTTPS, things like youtube ads and such. More and more of the Internet is moving towards HTTPS, so this is starting to be a noticeable gap with Proxy/VPN adblockers. But I'll try this in the meantime, I verified YouTube ads are still present (they aren't on my phone with Adaway). Thanks for the suggestion, however.
Edit: Also, I tried AdGuard DNS and FoolDNS with the app, neither accomplished the blocking of YouTube ads.
If you do find a way to bruteforce it, by any chance, let me know. I am in the same boat, got my p20pro the day after they stopped unlocking the bootloader on request, and they are not accepting to do it trough emails
P-Chan80 said:
So I got my new phone a day AFTER the unlock codes went offline... I've been trying to get support to get me an unlock code, but 2 e-mails and no luck so far. I've got another 3 weeks to return my phone, which I will be doing if I can't get it unlocked by then. I never noticed how much I rely on certain root applications (AdAway for one, since it is a hosts file update that keeps bloat on my phone down and works with pretty much every app).
Some thoughts on unlocking the bootloader - is it feasible to script a fastboot oem unlock <number> that just brute forces through numbers until one works? I might try this later today.
Any methods by talking to the modem directly? (I had a phone a while ago that I could use Qualcomm's tools to directly flash with)
I'm running KingRoot right now, I'm not normally a fan of such tools and so far it's been at 1% for quite some time, so I have little hope it will actually do anything.
I wonder if it might be possible to correlate unlock codes with IMEI from previous unlocks to find a way to generate these for other IMEIs? Of course, this assumes they didn't just make a database that holds a random unlock code for each IMEI.
Hopefully I can get this figured out, I like this phone, but I came from OnePlus before and may end up sending my P20 back and looking at the OnePlus 6 instead.
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Send it back. OnePlus 6 or if you can wait, the pixel 3 will be a beast
Cracking the password may be possible? I'm in the same boat here. Got the phone the day off and emailed same day but no luck.
I really like the phone but I need root for bloatware tether and adblock etc.
In Huaweis email responses they said they cannot send an unlock code under any circumstances.
Jesus, add me in to the club of unlucky bastards [emoji53]
It looks like I am so used to using root for all my life and now this desperate situation is killing me.
Same here....
Yep same here it sucks....Got mine two days after they stopped offering the service....a couple of things to watch out for:
HCU-Client/DC Unlocker - It wont stay locked forever I think we all know that and I figure there is only a matter of time until HCU support the P20 Pro as they recently added the P20 Lite worth looking into and keeping an eye out on the above applications I've mentioned.
I spoke to someone I know who does remote unlocking according to him he can get a bootloader code for £60 so I will give him a go and post my results here. Even though I feel begrudged to pay £60 to do it.
Ironman MarkV said:
Yep same here it sucks....Got mine two days after they stopped offering the service....a couple of things to watch out for:
HCU-Client/DC Unlocker - It wont stay locked forever I think we all know that and I figure there is only a matter of time until HCU support the P20 Pro as they recently added the P20 Lite worth looking into and keeping an eye out on the above applications I've mentioned.
I spoke to someone I know who does remote unlocking according to him he can get a bootloader code for £60 so I will give him a go and post my results here. Even though I feel begrudged to pay £60 to do it.
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I will gladly buy him a bootloader unlock code for 60e if that's my only option.
Ya keep us updated. I'd probably pay as well lol although that is a bit steep.
Update
Just to update everyone, I called support and explained my situation and that I would be returning the phone if I can't get the bootloader unlocked. They seemed disinterested in trying to help me. Maybe company policy is now firm on this, but if this is their answer, they've lost a customer. I will be returning the phone in 2 weeks (I left all the packaging intact and the protective films are still on the phone), unless by some miracle I can figure out how to get it unlocked before then.
I would -NEVER- buy a PC without being able to install a different OS on it, I paid (or soon to have not paid?) $800 for this device and to not be able to do with it as I please is a huge deal-breaker. I wasn't even planning on moving away from EMUI, but to know that I can't really bugs me. Hello Huawei, goodbye Huawei.
<Sorry if I seem dramatic, I'm a little sour because, I really wanted to love this phone, but alas, someone has too tight a grip and this relationship is suffocating>
I think HCU and DC unlocker will find a way to do it
Hi, I recently replaced a non functioning 9T Pro mainboard with a replacement which is working well in all aspects except SIM registration (the main phone function ...!) - looking through the details it looks like it's a K20 Pro from India (from Alibaba, origin not advertised) and the ROM is Indian. The SIM doesn't seem to be able to register on an Irish network. My question is whether the radio restriction is a hardware issue or is software fixable - I'd be grateful for some advice before trying to unlock the bootloader install an EU ROM, as it's difficult to get the unlock from Xiaomi without a functioning SIM for SMS OTC etc. I've tested the SIM in other phones and it registers on the network okay. I've also tried a different (known working) SIM in the problem phone, without success, which is leading me to think the issue is isolated to the phone rather than a SIM issue. It would be really helpful if I could find out whether going dow the flashing route it worthwhile or a dead-end. I've spent many hours flashing various phones over the years, trying to match ROMs etc., and know what a rabbit-hole it can be.
jc10001 said:
Hi, I recently replaced a non functioning 9T Pro mainboard with a replacement which is working well in all aspects except SIM registration (the main phone function ...!) - looking through the details it looks like it's a K20 Pro from India (from Alibaba, origin not advertised) and the ROM is Indian. The SIM doesn't seem to be able to register on an Irish network. My question is whether the radio restriction is a hardware issue or is software fixable - I'd be grateful for some advice before trying to unlock the bootloader install an EU ROM, as it's difficult to get the unlock from Xiaomi without a functioning SIM for SMS OTC etc. I've tested the SIM in other phones and it registers on the network okay. I've also tried a different (known working) SIM in the problem phone, without success, which is leading me to think the issue is isolated to the phone rather than a SIM issue. It would be really helpful if I could find out whether going dow the flashing route it worthwhile or a dead-end. I've spent many hours flashing various phones over the years, trying to match ROMs etc., and know what a rabbit-hole it can be.
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Hi, any takers on this query ;-) - I'd love to hear from any tinkerers who could give me a steer on whether I'm wasting my time going down the unlock / flash with correct regional variant, or if I should just write off the board / phone as being only useful for wifi rather than sim network. If someone who has treaded this path before with some success could let me know I'd be much more enthusiastic about dropping a few hours on it - I've spent many hours on flashing various devices before, and usually have less hair to show for it before I'm successful. Even if it means (as I've read in a few posts around here) that if I lock the device again on a rom that's not regionally compatible I'd be inheriting a paperweight(!), it would be nice to know that in a controlled environment the sim would work. Would be a shame really to nothing with the board as I (stupidly!) splashed out on a 8GB 256GB replacement and (surprisingly) any queries to the vendor on AliExpress have fallen on deaf ears surprisingly ...
jc10001 said:
Hi, any takers on this query ;-) - I'd love to hear from any tinkerers who could give me a steer on whether I'm wasting my time going down the unlock / flash with correct regional variant, or if I should just write off the board / phone as being only useful for wifi rather than sim network. If someone who has treaded this path before with some success could let me know I'd be much more enthusiastic about dropping a few hours on it - I've spent many hours on flashing various devices before, and usually have less hair to show for it before I'm successful. Even if it means (as I've read in a few posts around here) that if I lock the device again on a rom that's not regionally compatible I'd be inheriting a paperweight(!), it would be nice to know that in a controlled environment the sim would work. Would be a shame really to nothing with the board as I (stupidly!) splashed out on a 8GB 256GB replacement and (surprisingly) any queries to the vendor on AliExpress have fallen on deaf ears surprisingly ...
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Unlocking Bootloader usually requires to wait 7 days and during that time phone must have a proper SIM card, attched to the Mobile network.
Not sure how would you do that in your case?!
Anyway, start waiting for those 7 days, better earlier than later. If you change your mind, you simply don't unlock the Bootloader upon the 7 days of waiting pass
zgfg said:
Unlocking Bootloader usually requires to wait 7 days and during that time phone must have a proper SIM card, attched to the Mobile network.
Not sure how would you do that in your case?!
Anyway, start waiting for those 7 days, better earlier than later. If you change your mind, you simply don't unlock the Bootloader upon the 7 days of waiting pass
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Yes, good idea, thanks for the suggestion. I'll see if I can kick that off / whether the sim registration issue blocks me. If anyone else has been able to verify that flashing can help regional issue with SIM registration and support bands that would be great too! Thanks.
Hello,
Does anyone know if there are versions of the Google Pixel 5 that have locked bootloaders? For example on the Galaxy S10e Snapdragon model you can't enable OEM unlocking with a certain bootloader version, however on the Exynos version this isn't as much of an issue. Are there specific updates on the Google Pixel that may prevent you from using GrapheneOS? If I get a Google Pixel I want to ensure it will be compatible with GrapheneOS.
Thanks!
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
andybones said:
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
Skyty said:
I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
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I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
andybones said:
I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
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And here we come full circle once again. The problem is that unlocked does not mean bootloader unlockable which I know you know but others might not. GrapheneOS needs to have an unlocked bootloader or it will not install. I don't know how a buyer can get a business to boot into the OS in order to see if the OEM switch is active. But as you state that is really the only way to tell. @Skyty which carrier are you using? I don't know how you will get that guarantee that you can unlock the bootloader but that is really what you need to do if you can't handle the phone.
In the case of Pixels, the unlocked version has the added bonus of having an unlockable bootloader, Google doesn't seem to play the games that Samsung does. They're both carrier unlocked and don't have the bootloader super locked down.
andybones said:
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but in my post I did say "usually" the way to go.
And, just to state, I had no issues with VoLTE on my rooted, unlocked variant P5 on Verizon, nor At&T, VoWIFI works also.. what am I doing special? Just curious. Here I am on a call using VoLTE.
Also, if they are creating VoLTE Magisk modules for China and more. This is the first complaint I've read about this issue. My HTC 10 was also an unlocked variant on Verizon with VoLTE, Wi-Fi Calling and preferred options were the same as my brother stock un-rooted Verizon variant. So, I'm lost. Sorry.
Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
bobby janow said:
Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
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No, I'm not that lucky, believe you me.
And I've let this go on long enough.
Anymore OT on this subject gets deleted.
Thank you.
I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
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I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
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I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
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I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
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I usually add +40 to +75, unless I have original boxes and accessories. They really do sell for more, and people pay it.
As for the VZW P5, I have a few in my shop office right now that cannot be unlocked and their IMEI reads back as a Verizon phone, double checked by inserting another SIM and comes up locked. VZW Statement on unlocking is "if the phone was paid off (6 months of payments), it will auto unlock" .. so you probably have one that's paid off.
No, I bought the Google version. Even paid up you can't unlock the Verizon version. It's just the way they operate.
Seems like a fair price. This is the article I was talking about. https://9to5google.com/2021/09/05/n...-focused-grapheneos-that-costs-twice-as-much/